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How do I find value and meaning in my life? Everyday is just me wallowing in my own self pity and I have no idea what to do about it. I want to kill myself not because I'm sad, because I'm empty and everything feels numb to me. Because I know that I'll probably never develop the kind of connection I've always wanted out of life.
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I'm feeling pretty bad myself, is there anything you want to talk about?
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>>16748822
I don't think there's really anything specific to talk about. My life just feels like shit in general. I've never been in a relationship that lasted more than 48 hours, I generally hate myself, I've been working out and dieting for almost a year now and I don't feel different even though I know I've lost weight, I'd murder for a relationship just so I have someone I can cuddle with and know that I'm worth something to somebody and make them feel the same and people often start disliking me out of no where and for no reason that I'm even aware of.

tl;dr life sucks
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>Go to a hospital
>See people die, see people who hang on to their last breath.
Trust me you'll value more your life
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>>16749201
Jesus, I never thought of that
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>>16749281
Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius both advised regularly viewing death, the dying, and the sick

High-minded Marcus Aurelius called it a vulgar but effective technique, but pragmatic Epictetus advised it whole-heartedly.
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>>16748541

You gotta find a passion, then you work towards it. To find a passion, just do and see everything. One day it will click
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>>16748541
Just be urself <3
I know socializing can be hard but dont give up dude
It doesnt matter who you are now think of the Person you want to be and work towards it
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>>16749333
it was natural in the old days
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>>16748541

I remember as a kid I used to feel so intensely alive...I could fully feel and love and live, and had great hopes for the future and I didn't even realise it at the time.

Now all I have are the memories, I haven't felt like that for so long...sigh :(
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I feel the same way OP

I think its some traumatic event from earlier life blocking our emotions/sense of self

Idk man maybe try some therapy. I wish I knew what to tell you but I've felt this way for years and can't seem to get better at all.
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Nowadays I get drunk just so I can have a slight sensation of emotions. When I'm drunk, I cry and am miserable. But it's still emotions that make me feel like a human being. Otherwise I feel numb. Like some half-human that can act and look human but lack the actual essence of being alive.

So OP I know. I blame it on a comfortable and asocial lifestyle that alienates you not only from other beings but also your own feelings. It becomes routine. There is no challenge. No joy. No sense of accomplishment. It just is.
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>>16748541
>How do I find value and meaning in my life?
This isn't a fucking treasure hunt man. You don't "find" meaning suddenly like some magical item; you create meaning in your own life via making choices.

Pick something you want to do and then do the shit out of it until you want to do something else. The meaning comes from that.
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>>16749458
>Idk man maybe try some therapy

I talked with a counselor the other week. It was actually kind of nice being able to vent and have it feel like someone cared but I don't think it really did too much. Maybe I'll continue with more sessions

> I wish I knew what to tell you

It's fine. Thanks for trying

>>16749459
>So OP I know. I blame it on a comfortable and asocial lifestyle that alienates you not only from other beings but also your own feelings. It becomes routine. There is no challenge. No joy. No sense of accomplishment. It just is.

I never thought of that. That makes almost too much sense. I heard around the first world has a higher suicide rate and a bigger issue with suicide because of all the technology we have. It supposedly makes life boring and we focus on the parts of life we can't change. Christ, if this is how it feels now, I can't imagine what it'll be like for future generations
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>>16749483
I think that anon is probably right in that isolation and a lack of joy/discovery in life might be a part of this problem we have

humans are supposed to find things, tread new ground, make things, overcome challenges. Climb that mountain etc

now there's a fucking guided path up everest and you could just watch some cunt do it on their gopro if you wanted to which you dont because its mostly retards who do and there's nothing to be actually accomplished by it. Hmmmmm
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>>16749491
>now there's a fucking guided path up everest and you could just watch some cunt do it on their gopro

Fucking christ
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>>16749884
There's always been a guided path paved by the death of shirpas

Mountain climbing is for white men with small dicks to feel like they accomplished something when all they did is put on a bunch of cold weather gear and hire some mountain folks to walk up a big snowy rock and back down again
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>>16748541

do something.

sit down and think about 'what do i want to do wiht my life? what do i want to do before 30? what do i want to do this year? what do i want to do this week? what do i want to do today?

write it ALL down and make a big list. then break down what you need to do to get started. then get started. make a list each night before bed of what needs to be done tomorrow. when you achieve a big coal, cross it off. i hang mine on my closet door.
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>>16748541
masturbation
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>>16749952
Masturbation is just boring now honestly. Porn is pointless titillation and serves no real purpose other than cheap thrills
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>>16750538
Replace masturbation and porn with the word life and you unlocked the secret of life
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>>16748541
http://youtu.be/yY5OdtXjPBU
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>>16750543
Religion is nothing but a bunch of old fools lying to themselves so they don't have to deal with the fact they're going to die and rot in the ground. Jesus may have been real at some point, he might have even been a good person but he didn't die for you or for me or for anyone. God is nothing but a social construct people made up and it might work for you, it might work for other people but it wouldn't work for me. I wasn't sent here to do god's work or worship his name or whatever you want to think. There is no reason for me to be here and I ultimately mean nothing to the universe. That's the cold hard fact and I've already accepted it.
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>>16750554
OP you can keep searching for something to make you feel better but you will never find anything as satisfying as the love of God.


You are right that there is no reason in the universe for you to exist

There is one reason outside of the universe for you to exist

You are searching for something in the world to make you whole but you will never find it

It is not if this world

You are lonely but you don't have to be
http://youtu.be/sLa0lQEqqL4

I didn't fear death before I became a Christian and I don't fear death after I became a Christian.
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>>16750569
>satisfying as the love of God.

You're a troll, huh?
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>>16750588
No anon I'm the only one who can lead you to truth on this board

But I can show you the door but you must knock for yourself
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>>16750610
It's not happening buddy. Religion is a crutch
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>>16748541
Honestly you are just lazy. You dont do shit, and when you dont do shit all you do is think bad thoughts about why nothing good ecer happens and how you are a big loser. Weve all been there. Especially around 17-24.

Just got to force yourself to work and take on hobbies. Through work and hobbies you will make friends. Through friends comes extra curricular activities. Through work and hobbies comes a sense of accomplishment, money and filled time. Through work and hobvies comes functions whoch can be valuable and also filled time.

Before you know it youll be exhausted every night by 11pm and you wont have much time to think or reflect on being a loser because you are too busy being a winner. Being busy is the best thing for your health and mind. You cant shut yourself in and contenplate life.
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>>16751001
Isn't it tiring though? Knowing that you have to keep that lifestyle up or else you'll believe your life is empty or meaningless?
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