Just curious. Has someone ever won an argument/debate/talk/etc. here?
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depends on your definition of win. as in, change their mind? yes, but its rare. even if a person knows they are wrong, they will try to do damage control, cuz they cant admit they are wrong.
its like when someone honestly begins to believe they didn't murder someone, depsite the fact that they did. you tel lthe lie so much you convince yourself to believe it.
are you serious? its hilarious knowing that you can keep calm, simply state facts, and the other person cant figure what to say other than what a third grader says when someone likes a different pokemon than him.
>he thinks someone shouting an insult like "you're ugly" at them means they've won the argument and are actually beautiful
nah, what you are doing is just self-delusion and avoidance of objective reality, loser.
sure, that's fun - but that's not the same as winning an argument. Resorting to insults can sometimes be a flailing defense mechanism in an argument, but it's not necessarily so... you moron.
Honestly, yes. Not just on here but on other sites as well, I have actually had people tell me, "Damn, that's a good point. Huh." More often the other person refuses to back down but it's clear who the "winner" is because one person keeps getting quoted with replies like "This." and the other guy slinks away from the discussion without saying another word.
Once I actually had somebody track me down literally years after the fact to tell me that some post I made on some social issue really made an impression on her (she was trans way back before the age of Tumblr social justice blogs etc.) That was a good feeling.
Then there's been plenty of times when I've clearly lost an argument on here. A couple times I've been man enough to say "Damn, that's a good point. Huh." A few times I've just been too stubborn to admit defeat, and, yeah, sometimes I just click the little red X and pretend the thread never happened. But being a child about it doesn't change the fact that I clearly lost. I know it and so does everybody else.
So yeah. It can and does happen.
>he thinks he's been actually winning any of his arguments instead of the opponent simply getting frustrated at his retardation, miscommunication and calling him stupid
this is probably the #1 result that happens online, you big baka. It's not the same as "winning" the argument in a normal definition of the concept.
I'm just concerned for you that you're not understanding why people insult you constantly in your arguments.
Arguments without merit have no such thing as a winner.
Winning is when the opponent admits victory, in other words, takes your word for it or accepts your statement. If you're getting insulted in a debate it's probably because you said something retarded or trying to be a smartass.
Going into an argument or debate with the goal of "winning" is what makes you lose in the first place.
The point of discourse is to share ideas, exposing yourself to new potential viewpoints while also providing the same to your counterpart(s). You can't win at arguing the same way you can't win at going to work or breathing air. It's just something that will inevitably happen in human communication; you should focus more on what is being offered rather than some other arbitrary measure of superiority.