GF opinions

Literally what the fuck are you talking about

>>16704669
Enslaving people is on par with wanting to change your gender.

>>16704705
Ah yes, of course. OP needs to relax

>>16704705
There are people and societies that see it that way.

Im pretty sure that even though were both ignoring it now, its going to come back even harder when we are least prepared.
Like we really like each other, but do you guys think its best logically speaking to end it now before theres any hard feelings. Id rather remain on friendly terms with her than for serious drama to start.

>>16704614

No sensible person wants their children to be influenced by degenerates, so I sympathise with your position.

>>16704614

>"fuck fags!"
>"Babe I have gay friends and I dont like that."
>"okay ill try not to say it around you."
>"thanks"

are you guys edgelords that you cant talk it out. I did.

>>16704873
Obviously if we were into hiding our opinions we wouldnt talk about controversial topics.
Also it goes further because shed have to live knowing that her friend isnt accepted.
Im not into making people choose between me and someone else.

You're angry at her because she has a friend who you're afraid of because they make you uncomfortable.

Tell her you're concerned because she's hanging out with "degenerates", you stupid fuck. That should clear up your problems pretty quick.

>>16704880
Never said I was angry. No ones angry. Shes frustrated. You read way too much into the situation.

>>16704877

My gf has trans friends. I dont agree with it, but when theyre around I make nice.
My gf knows I dont play that but because I know how to be polite and Im not a shithead, everything is fine.
If choosing is happening, red flag.

tldr; tell her its either you or a tranny because you cant get over yourself.

>>16704887
>because I know how to be polite and Im not a shithead
If you dont believe something then obviously you can pretend otherwise.

>>16704897

congratulations! you can read!

>comes to 4chan
>bitches about not liking trannies
>"how do people deal with things like this"
>shadafakup
>no

what the fuck do you even want? someone to validate what you feel inside? You want conformation bias?
Either you argue with your gf about it, or you learn to live with it. Your question is answered, you can go home now.

>>16704897

Yes, its called being a grown-up.

>>16704916
Did you even read the OP

>>16704921
Not in my world.

>>16704923

Your relationship will fail and you wont get very far in life with that attitude.

>captcha: bananas

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>>16704923

So you came to /adv/ to ask for advice, you get it, then say thats not the right one.

By posting your need for advice here you obviously dont know squat. If you did youd pic related.

>>16704925
Ive been offered leadership positions solely based on this. You cant be at the head if you are afraid to speak.
its also what attracted my gf to me.
But Im happy so see that it makes you so insecure.

>>16704934
Not all advice is good. You can tell someone to kill themselves and then complain that they didnt accept your advice.
Such a conceited attitude.

>>16704936

What in your church?

>>16704938

Strawman all day right? You seem to have a knack for comparing apples to cucumbers.

>>16704941
>church
lol where do you think you are. We're all edgy atheist here.

>>16704936

And youre not at the head. Relationships are 50-50.

>>16704943
>I cant see that apples and cucumbers are food
You seem to lack the ability to extrapolate critical points.

>>16704947
What does this post have to do with anything.
Compromise and understanding is not pretending.

>>16704936

Speaking up is one thing. having to be right is a whole nother thing.

>>16704954
Why speak if you dont believe you are right. Im open to being proven wrong. But Im not about to accept any argument weaker than my own.

>>16704949

>I take things very literally which is why I cant understand the concept of "give-take"

You seem to lack the ability to understand metaphors.

>>16704959
>I can only give-take by pretending to be someone Im not
You seem to have quite the metaphor setup here.

>>16704958

Are you a Muslim? You cant be open to being proven wrong if you think you hold the moral high ground in the first place.

Why come here, looking for input if youre just going to dispute it? Seeing as though you wont tolerate transgenders, what did you even come here for? None of us can magically make your gf stop being some sjw.

>>16704962
ref to >>16704943
then >>16704947

but if using common sense and some perception is too challenging I can see why you need to solicit advice from random people on the internet.

>>16704962

by that logic, and judging by how rustled you are about not having some way to impose your morals and ideal upon your gf, WHY ARE YOU HERE

see>>16704973

>>16704973
>You cant be open to being proven wrong if you think you hold the moral high ground in the first place.
Do you even know what a debate is? If it involves morals obviously youd think you have the moral high ground.
I didnt come here to talk about transgenders. And the only advice I got was some crappy
>pretend you arent who you are
If I ignored some solid advice I apologize for missing it. Please point it out.

>>16704993
>I cant read the OP.
Can you please point out where I spoke of imposing morals on my gf. I cant take advice from someone who cant read.

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>>16704998

>My girlfriend is fairly opinionated and we end up discussing our views on fairly controversial topics a lot.
>i told her that theres no way we'd see eye to eye on arbitrary social constructs.
> I cant be friends with her friends and its clearly going to bring a rift between us.

>Get told >>16704873

>reply >>16704877
>get told >>16704887
>If you dont believe something then obviously you can pretend otherwise.
So why cant you just "pretend" to be okay with it?

>Later say "Im not about to accept any argument weaker than my own.", in direct contradiction of previous statement

>>16704998
>We've already talked about gender so I suppose she really felt the need to convince here but i told her that theres no way we'd see eye to eye on arbitrary social constructs.
>Like if your SO suddenly made friends with a slave owner and she just didnt see anything wrong with having slaves. Its one thing if it just stops at opinions but the moment slaves actually come into the picture things suddenly become so much more urgent.
By comparing the issue of 'genderism' to slavery, you equate your views on transgenderism to the immorality of slavery. What did that even mean? A slave owner (who has to have slaves to be a slave owner) who when there are actual slaves then it becomes an issue? Horribly worded example to even begin with. So the questioning of my literary capacity might not be something worth questioning if you cant assemble words into coherent thought to begin with.

>the problem is that I cant be friends with her friends and its clearly going to bring a rift between us.
ref again to >>16704873. Either you suck up your pride or end the relationship since
> shes extremely liberal

You might need to re-read this entire discussion and re-evaluate if you want to make yourself look more and more like a fool.

>>16705069
So where did I speak of imposing morals on her
>Later say "Im not about to accept any argument weaker than my own.", in direct contradiction of previous statement
Where exactly is the contradiction
>So why cant you just "pretend" to be okay with it?
Not going to pretend to be someone Im not.
>By comparing the issue of 'genderism' to slavery, you equate your views on transgenderism to the immorality of slavery.
You think slavery is immoral. Not everyone. You seem to think that only your moral views can be used.

I honestly dont see the point of this post.

How to deal with her being friends with a trannie? Don't be around when they hang out. I don't see how this is hard to figure out, OP.

It simple op

Babe I don't like the tranny nor will I change my point of view on these fags but you can kick it with it I really don't care.

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>>16705079

please just go back and reread everything.

>You seem to think that only your moral views can be used.
So why wont you humor your SO for relationships sake?
You came here asking what do other people do and should you just end it.

>>16704873
Humor her if you like her as much as you say you do
>>16704880
Tell her her friends are degenerates
>>16704887
Choosing? Break it off.

Considering you focused on literal verbage more than on what was actually being said, I think youre just retarded or something. I dunno. If you wanted a nice, simple answer you should have taken your ass to reddit.

>Now the problem is that I cant be friends with her friends

isn't it ironic that OP is a giant faggot? kek

>>16705079

I fuckin knew if I didnt link the exact post and spell shit out you were gonna play the ignorance card cause you were too lazy to debate properly.

>>16705107
Thats what I do now. But I dont feel like that works forever.
>>16705130
>So why wont you humor your SO for relationships sake?
Not about to pretend.
>>16705142
I didnt realize you were trying to formulate and argument. It was so unorganized and had no logical context to anything said in this thread. Please try again.

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>>16705214

>>16705221
>I cant critique an opinion

I honestly think OP is autistic or something of the sort.

>>16705309

Most likely.

>>16705309
>people who dont pretend to be someone theyre not are autistic
Are you people serious?

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Watch out. I think you made it mad. Go be a faggot somewhere else.

ask /pol/ for advice since you hate trannies and like slaves

>>16705330
It's the way you talk that so fucking... Unnatural? It's either that or you're a fedora lord trying to prove your superiority. Honestly all you've done is try and refute everyone's advice and make them out to be below you.
I think you're insecure and a manchild :\\\\

Whatever you think about being trans, comparing it to slavery is fucking absurd. Just ridiculous. It harms nobody else. If you can't shut the fuck up and be decent to somebody who's made some personal life choices you disagree with, then you. are. a. fucking. child.

>>16705340
You say Im trying to put you below me yet you try to belittle me with insults. Am I supposed to take you serious.
>Unnatural
Try speaking your mind instead of pretending all the time and it becomes natural.
>>16705338
>Anyone who doesnt agree with me should be on /pol/

>>16705348
>comparing it to slavery is fucking absurd. Just ridiculous. It harms nobody else.
You realize that slave owners think the same thing. Its comparable exactly because of that.

>>16705354
>Anyone who doesnt agree with me should be on /pol/

no, I think he's calling you a moron

which you are, as is evident by this thread

>>16704614
You're a faggot. Your girlfriend is a faggot. Nobody fucking cares what you think or what your retarded tumblerite girlfriend thinks. Put a bullet in your head and do us all a fucking favor

>>16705361
>anyone who disagrees with me is a moron
Alright Ill just laugh at you now. Nothing else of value.

>>16705354
You're trying really hard to be a victim but fact is you're just a dick. You being yourself is just being a bonafide asshole.
You shouldn't be happy with yourself if you're so damn critical

>>16705366

>haha! they called me a name! I win!

>>16705358
Yes, and we know better, don't we, idiot? I'm not trans and not a trans activist and I can freely acknowledge that it affects nobody else to any significant degree.

This is your last chance to man up and admit you're in the wrong (not about the fucking legitimacy of trans people or whatever -- about your bad behavior.) I don't expect you'll do that; you're not coming across as particularly intelligent here and you obviously have a lot of growing up to do. Good luck with your relationship.

>>16705367
>You being yourself is just being a bonafide asshole
Why would I take the opinion of someone who insults others into account. It just proves that you dont have an argument.

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>>16705397

So by insulting the other people in the argument, by your logic you dont have an argument either?

>>16705383
>Yes, and we know better, don't we, idiot?
>We know that we are right and everyone else is wrong.
Oh wow. You might actually be serious. It is funny a bit.

>>16705366
no, people who spout moronic things are morons, again - as evident by this thread. This was my first post here just so we're clear

for example:

>>16705358
you're taking the concept of "how people see X" and substituting it for the argument "X is not harmful". The person you are responding to is not arguing the idea that "nobody sees being trans as harmful"; they are arguing that people who see trans as being harmful are WRONG.

Providing him with an analogous example where people also see something else as "not harmful" (even though we all agree it's really harmful) in an attempt to show that something can be harmful even when people don't *think* it is. This is fucking idiotic. He's not arguing some people out there don't think trans is harmful, he's arguing the actual non-harmfulness of it. You're side-stepping that point completely; what you're saying is of no logical value in the first place, and you're too stupid to understand this.

again, you being an illogical moron is evident by this thread. I bet your GF completely wrecks you every time you argue with her and you're too stupid to understand it. Must be frustrating for her.

>>16705397
That's just your personality though, and you refuse to acknowledge that lol.

>>16705403
>ad hominem isnt a logical fallacy
Id expect better of anyone whos received an education.

>>16705414
Acknowledge that people who seek to insult and bring down others without any arguments may insult me?
Im too old to be affected by that.

>>16705416
You have no idea what an ad hominem argument is. It's not the same as "insulting somebody." Look it up.

>>16705420
Please don't tell me you're older than 18 because how you act is inappropriate for any other age

>>16705405
>you're taking the concept of "how people see X" and substituting it for the argument "X is not harmful".
Never said that. Secondly, slave owners do not think it is harmful. It is exactly the same situation just with a different focus. It points out the difference of opinions. Can you not logically follow how analogies work
>you being an illogical moron is evident by this thread.
yet you cant even read an argument lol

>>16705426
>youre a dick
>youre autistic
>youre a moron
>not ad hominem
I cant stop laughing.
>>16705428
I have a masters and a degree in philosophy. I dont see myself as better than others but if you cant support your arguments and voice then your actions speak louder than my unfounded belief that you are capable of critically thinking.

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>>16705416

but thats what you did....

>>16704936
>>16704938
>>16704944
>>16704949
>>16704998
>>16705214
>>16705260
>>16705354
>>16705366
>>16705404
>>16705416

this was every blatant character/trait insult you posted. I made sure not to include the underhanded ones cause you might misunderstand what you wrote.

>>16705443
Where'd you go for undergrad and graduate school, OP? :^)

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>>16705443

substantiate your claims. burden of proof is on you.

>mfw when 1st sem college smarter than a masters graduate

>>16705452
Not about to talk about my personal life.
>>16705456
You dont take on the burden of proof to reject an unfounded claim. Thats not how any logical conversation would work.
>mfw when 1st sem college smarter than a masters graduate
I remember when I was a 1st sem college student and thought I was smart. Youll learn that its the exact opposite eventually.

>>16705467
Then I can safely assume you got your degrees from YouTube and Wikipedia?

Agree to disagree?
You don't have to pretend to like them, but respect the opinion of your girl on trans people.

Not much else you can do.

>>16705450
No one those are ad hominems lol. This is just sad but funny.

>>16705358

>You realize that slave owners think the same thing.

You can't substantiate that. I'd argue that most slave owners regarded their slaves as lesser humans, but still humans. But even assuming their moral gymnastics might have let them believe they weren't monsters for trading/ having slaves, they still would have to agree that their practice impacted other people (i.e. their slaves).

Becoming (or realizing you are) trans directly affects one person.

You're taking a personal claim you find weird or gross or scientifically questionable and comparing it to committing atrocities on other people.

For someone who presents himself as a critical thinker, you really suck at it.

And frankly, the fact that you can't get over this one little thing is really goddamn bizarre. So are the rest of her friends basically "perfect?" Are you in full agreement with the rest of them on all issues?

I bet not. I bet some of them have habits, characteristics, and opinions you disapprove of as well. But you're able to let those slide for the most part, right?

And it sounds like you haven't even met this person. How about you try that first? Just be fucking cool. For all you know, this trans is as arrogant and opinionated about their gender identity as most any "CIS" person is. So meet them and find out. If they're belligerently talkative about it, muh pronouns this and die cis scum that, then sure, you were right, and we will throw you a parade. But give them the chance. You might never agree with their gender self-assessment, but maybe you'll discover that it's not the divisive wedge you think it is as long as you can keep your righteousness in check.

>>16705443
Check it out, a fun and easy summary of what the ad hominem fallacy is and isn't! I'm so nice to you. http://laurencetennant.com/bonds/adhominem.html :)

As to your "masters" and "philosophy degree," I believe neither of those things. You're seriously arguing and communicating on the level of maybe a sixteen-year-old, and not a particularly bright or mature one, either. If you're being truthful, then man -- shut the fuck up for a minute and LISTEN. There's a reason SEVERAL PEOPLE in this thread have assumed you were a child. It's because you act like one. It's not that we're outmatched by your incredible intellect and are trying to shut you down -- it's just honest-to-god failure on your part.

If you're as old as you say you are (much less if you've gotten a Master's) then you must have learned the value of humility at some point. Try to recall it. Do the right thing for you and wise up; no skin off our collective nose if you don't.

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>>16705467

You made the claim nigga! LOLOLOL
I need laughs like this from time to time. Laughing at manchildren is my ishhhh

>>16705470
It doesnt matter. You are free to assume whatever you like. A persons background has no influence on their argument.
>>16705472
If we didnt respect each others opinions we'd be tip toeing around each others feelings. The problem runs deeper in that its no longer just an opinion since it can have an effect on our lives.
Do I let her friend hang around our children. My family. Do I spend time with them?
You cant just agree to disagree on these topics.
I didnt ask her to stop being friends. I came here because the situation is more complicated than that. For now though Ive had no interaction with them.

>>16705475

>>16705443
You said they are! Or are your words magic or some shit?

Actually chuckling out loud. woke up my gf.

>>16705482
>Becoming (or realizing you are) trans directly affects one person.
No. This is just an underdeveloped ideology. That person interacts with others and their choice can have a psychological impact on others. Its the same argument as whether or not its okay to expose kids to homosexuality.

>>16704614
You're in the wrong here.
It's one thing to disagree with someone's life choices, but to deny them a chance at your friendship is discriminatory.

I am religious, so I think that gayness and being transgender is against god's will.
But that does not stop me from having gay/transgender friends. Ultimately I believe that God is the only one capable of judging someone. Also, it's not like I am without my own faults and sins.

Also, your analogy does not make sense- a slave owner actively worsens the lives of other people. Being transgender only impacts the one person who is transgender.
What you're doing is much like someone who is sexist (thinks less of women) or racist (thinks less of a black person). You're discriminating against someone because of their identity, which is not very open minded.

Can you describe why you would feel uncomfortable hanging out with a transgender person? Does the ambiguity make you uncomfortable? Things that are not easily catagorized into our schema are often flat out rejected. But by engaging with and becoming tolerant of thes things that don't fit into our patterns, we become wiser and more open minded.
It's like when an infant experiences something that is "sticky" for the first time. Something like honey is not easily identifiable as a solid or a liquid, and the unique clingy was of it sets it apart from other foods. But after experiencing a sticky sensation, a new category is created.

>>16705487
You have to prove why you have a reason to doubt me in the first place since you brought it up. Thats how it works. You dont need a degree to know that.

>>16705493
Can you not read? Its all fun and games but if you dont keep up a certain level of intellect its a waste of time.

>>16705502
>Being transgender only impacts the one person who is transgender.
see>>16705501
Furthermore the slave owner analogy works because neither party sees anything wrong with it while the other does. The exact reasoning is not relevant to the scenario. You can distinguish between any two things based on the fact that they are not exactly the same. Thats not how you critique an analogy.
And again I never said she couldnt be friends with them. I dont know why you assumed I said so. I only said that of me.
>Can you describe why you would feel uncomfortable hanging out with a transgender person?
Do you really want this to turn into a discussion about transgender

>>16705489
I'm almost certain you don't have a BA or masters degree in philosophy. The fact that you refuse to tell us your age and what school you went to is a pretty good indicator that you're either just some punk kid or a 30 year old living in his mothers basement.
Honestly how is it personal info when you're just telling us the name of the college you went to on an anonymous website. I can't look you up bro

>>16705489

You guys have children together and your first thought after asking for advice is to end your relationship?

>>16704851
(OP, 5th reply, line 2, words 7-38)
> but do you guys think its best logically speaking to end it now before theres any hard feelings. Id rather remain on friendly terms with her than for serious drama to start.


I give up. You got me. 6.5/10. You trolled me.

>>16705504

see>>16705530

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so you didnt ask her to stop being friends, but you were thinking about splitting with the person you share kids with....

>>16705537
Did I say we had kids together?
You dont wait until you do to think about these things. Its not a hard concept to understand.

>>16705547
Theres nothing to see there. Its asking for unnecessary information to satisfy an unfounded opinion about me. Not telling someone personal information about you is not enough to make assumptions.

>>16705559

so youre thinking about kids and youre still in the "like" phase? Virginnnnnn

>>16705564
see >>16705504

>>16705501

Same with anyone who harbors opinions different from your own. You don't have to be trans to think being trans is okay and relay that idea to other people.

And are you and others like you not out there expressing your counter-arguments on the subject, having that psychological impact on others? Being afraid of the other side freely expressing their view... sounds to me like another way of saying even you know you're wrong.

And that's still indirect affect, unless you think trannies capture people and give them forced sex changes or something.

The root of your argument draws into question the right to exist of anyone who disagrees with you or represents something you don't approve of. That's really fucked, bud.

>>16705524
That's not a realistic concern- it is more so the responsibility of the parent to raise their child to be able to recognize right from wrong. If you try to raise a child simply by not exposing them to "bad" things, then they won't know how to deal with them when you're not around. That's why a lot of kids spiral in the teen years, when their parents are not constantly watching them and bad influences are present.

Also, your analogy was BAD. "Apples are like sushi" is an analogy because both are food items. It would be better to say "apples are like mangos" (both fruit).

Yes. Understanding why you are so uncomfortable with transgender people is a good way to see your level of maturity. As I said earlier, I too reject transgender behavior- but I am not "uncomfortable" with it.
Rejecting something because it makes you uncomfortable without trying to understand or explore it is close minded, and your Gf is justified in being angry at you for acting like that. She would not be able to be angry at you if you were able to calmly and politely interact with transgender people while still staying firm in your beliefs.

>>16705564

OPINION!?!?! YOU SAID YOU HAD A MA IN PHILOSOPHY!

>>16705580
>>16704943

oh look, multiple people called you out on your shit analogy

>>16705577
Please post again with something of merit.
>>16705579
>Same with anyone who harbors opinions different from your own
Gonna stop reading here. Please let me know if you post had more to it the was worth reading despite the contradiction.
Opinions are something expressed. So it only matters if the person is preaching that slavery is good to kids. Not their inherent interaction.
>>16705580
>That's not a realistic concern
Underdeveloped ideology again. Society takes an active role in making sure the mind of children isnt effected. You dont let kids see XXX rated movies. If you expose you child to things deemed too much of a negative influence your child is take from you.
>It would be better to say "apples are like mangos" (both fruit).
No because apples are not mangos. Thats a dumb critique. Unless I specifically talking about fruits it doesnt matter.

>>16705583
Ive been saying opinion this entire thread. Why is it just now bothering you.

>>16705605

>100 posts in and I still cant follow an argument.

tu quoque now eh?
Go google it real quick. Ill wait.

>>16705583
Guess I should add, I did not say I had an MA in philosophy.

>>16705614
>tu quoque
Do you have a point here?

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>>16705608

So you just admitted that your intelligence, education, and gf are all opinions.

>Ive been saying opinion this entire thread.
If you claim otherwise, you admit to lack of control of basic diction and are therefore a hypocrite with your claims of perceived superiority.

Checkmate. GG homes.
Either youre a shitty troll, or an extremely autistic man child.
According to >>16705504 , you have to prove a reason to doubt my claims which youve stated in>>16705564 that you wont answer.

You will die sad and miserable one day, and you know it. You can shill all you want, but as you read this, you know it to be true. If you still dont think so, you still will.

>>16705431
>Never said that.
>goes on to repeat exactly that

lel

>Secondly, slave owners do not think it is harmful. It is exactly the same situation just with a different focus. It points out the difference of opinions. Can you not logically follow how analogies work

I already responded to this in the post you're linking. What I said directly refutes what you're trying to say here and you're either playing stupid or being stupid. You're not directly answering the point, which was:

>He's not arguing some people out there don't think trans is harmful, he's arguing the actual non-harmfulness of it.

Telling us that slave owners think their slaves aren't harmed is totally irrelevant to whether or not slavery is *actually* harmful, and therefore tells us nothing about whether being trans is actually harmful. Your analogy is incoherent.

(and as someone else pointed out, the idea that slave owners didn't think that is just bullshit you're making up in the first place, you have no idea, it's not verifiable, it's probably not even true)

moron.

>>16705620


Masters degree = Masters of Arts = MA for short.
You dont have a masters.

>>16705636
>theres no such thing as educated opinions
If you think opinions cant be wrong you need to think about how logic works.
>you have to prove a reason to doubt my claims
No, theres no blame game. If you make a claim like someones not over 18 without a good reason to the burden will always be on you until you do. You have to prove its a good reason. If you start something you have to do it right.
>Your analogy is incoherent.
No you just cant logically follow. I never said transgender is harmful. Thats not the point of the analogy. Its completely irrelevant whether or not it is because I never said slavery was bad because its harmful either. Youre building in assumptions which is why you cant follow the logic.
>moron
Nice way to concede youre wrong.

>>16705662
It actually hurts how bad you are at reading. I did not state what my masters was.

>>16704614

>Comes for advice
>learns hes a manchild.

How do you do it /adv/?

>>16705214
Being civil isn't pretending. You kinda sound like a cunt, m8

>>16705723
>being civil
Do you consider not sharing your opinions civil?

>>16705665
>No you just cant logically follow. I never said transgender is harmful. Thats not the point of the analogy. Its completely irrelevant whether or not it is because I never said slavery was bad because its harmful either.

Without the inherent harm of the SO's friend's activity of choice - whether it's being trans or owning slaves - there is no support for the conflict between you and your SO over it. We get your moral quandary over associating with something you don't like, but the analogy to slave ownership is equivocating bullshit and that's why you're getting shit on all over this thread.

And yes, you are a moron. And that's not an ad hominem because it's not being used to support an argument, it's just an aside/observation/insult.

>transgender people are just as bad in ops mind as slave owners


What in the fuck

>>16706024
>the analogy to slave ownership is equivocating bullshit
aka
>it hurts my feelings
Theres no critique for the analogy that proves it fails. You cant arbitrarily pick at details of an analogy if the analogy works.
> there is no support for the conflict between you and your SO over it
This is only true if you are not in a relationship with the person. Once I have to interact with the person that no longer applies.
>Without the inherent harm of the SO's friend's activity of choice
Its not that hard to understand
Imagine your friend has graphic images of children being raped tattoo all over his body. Sure, its his choice what he gets tattoo'd but if he has to interact with society than its a completely different story. Id never let a child around that person and Im certain society would agree.

>>16706061
Do you think they are better?
Do you think you could prove to a slave owner that they are better?
For all you know I dont even think slavery is bad. Making assumptions like this is how you make a flawed argument extremely fast.

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You need to decide which is more important. Develop some sense of tact, or move on.

I have similar opinions about the whole gender spectrum shit as you. The difference is I don't really hate the people who believe in it, but I just pity them. Would you hate someone you consider mentally ill with anything else, such as depression or bipolar?

So if a friend invites them over or whatever, I just focus on my own shit.

This thread is dumb.

>>16706074
You are such a raging Autist goddamn.

Hating transgendered people so much that you can't even be polite with them means you are one fucked up individual.

Politically I hate the far right and republicans, but I can be cordial with them and they can be cordial with me as well. That's what we do when we are adults. You obviously have way more animosity than I do, or you just don't give a shit about being polite. Either way you are a cunt.

>>16706067
>Imagine your friend has graphic images of children being raped tattoo all over his body. Sure, its his choice what he gets tattoo'd but if he has to interact with society than its a completely different story. Id never let a child around that person and Im certain society would agree.

This is still an equivocation, which you're using to try and imply that being trans is something that's wrong. Are you NOT saying that it's your opinion that being trans is wrong? Of course you are. But the analogy doesn't justify that opinion; it doesn't support the conclusion.

>>16706100
I dont hate anyone. But that applies to everyone meaning people like slave owners. I dont hate slave owners either. But being a slave owner will change the way I interact with you.
>Develop some sense of tact
I wouldnt trust anyone who would look someone in the eye and pretend that there was no issue. Youll be much happier if youre an honest person.

>>16706143
>I wouldnt trust anyone who would look someone in the eye and pretend that there was no issue.

>implying everyone in your life isn't doing this without your knowledge

honesty is not an excuse for being an asshole. If everyone went around telling you all the time what a faggot you were you'd probably not enjoy it much. thankfully for you people generally have tact like that.

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>>16706143
>I wouldnt trust anyone who would look someone in the eye and pretend that there was no issue
I don't think you actually know what tact is.

>>16706125
>Are you NOT saying that it's your opinion that being trans is wrong
You really cant follow an argument. Its a direct contradiction to you argument
>Without the inherent harm of the SO's friend's activity of choice - whether it's being trans or owning slaves - there is no support for the conflict between you and your SO over it
Because it meets this requirement yet you agree that its wrong.
Your arguments arent sound which is why the analogy works.

>>16706148
> If everyone went around telling you all the time what a faggot you were you'd probably not enjoy it much.
My feelings arent that fragile. And it lets me know how you really feel about me. I appreciate honesty far for than someone smiling in my face.

>>16706156
Care to explain then

>>16706172
Sensitivity in dealing with complicated issues. If someones tranny friend legitimately asked me for my thoughts, I'd tell her/him/whatever that I think they were mentally ill.

However, I don't feel the need to broadcast that fact for its own sake. Sure they're mentally ill, but so what? Should I cut contact with my friend who is bipolar, or make depression a deal breaker?

>>16706183
>Should I cut contact with my friend who is bipolar, or make depression a deal breaker?
Try reading an argument by Aristotle on friendship and what friendship actually means. I would sit idly by while any friend of mine was mentally ill.

>>16705802
in the case where an opinion may be inflammatory, then YES not sharing them is being civil.
If you know that your opinion is fucked up then just keep it to yourself, it's not that fucking hard. You don't have to agree or disagree, just be neutral

>>16706464
>YES not sharing them is being civil.
If you have an opinion thats worth anything this is false

>>16704614
Just break up with her. It's clear from your posts that this is a deal breaker for you.

>>16706516
It debatably is. Its not for now but if left ignored problems could come down the line.
Shes far more reasonable than the people in this thread and shed probably end the friendship. But this isnt something thats a good sign of a relationship. If it happened when we were married then there would be no walking out.

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It's official. This is now a bait thread.

>>16706531
>every thread is bait
Honestly using the word bait and troll should be autoban here

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>>16706562
I am shaking my head family

Sad post to be honest.