I'm going to university of Toronto next fall. It's primarily a liberally aligned institution. I'm not a liberal.
How can I coexist there with the other liberals there? I want to participate in discussions and network, I'm not there to just study and pretend I don't exist.
just be respectful of other views. as long as you don't force your thoughts or opinions on people & you respectfully engage in conversation when it comes to touchy topics, you'll be fine. basically, don't start unnecessary fights or arguments over political opinions and the like. i am pretty liberal and i have many close friends with different views to mine. it can be done.
Former liberal here. The biggest way to win us over is to just ask questions on why we think the way we do. Keep digging deeper in the effort to be enlightened, and watch how many people's logic simply falls apart.
Any one-sided person will self-destruct internally when they run out of answers. I did a long time ago, and now I have a lot of conservative, right leaning views.
oh my god. that would NEVER happen in my country. that girl was so disrespectful! You are going to Canada though, is that not different to America?
im european and students do not act like that in my university as far as i know of.
Same situation except I'm not religious, but basically culturally catholic, I'm in my senior year at the hive mind of MICA. You don't need to completely wear a mask. Just sort of "no comment" your way through most things, until you find the other non-thought police.
Right what this guy said, don't force your views because you are outnumbered 10 to 1. All the view forcing will be done by your peers who have never worked a day in there lives. As a white male you are already a rapist who has no right to an opinion. Never Criticize anything that isn't Western or White related unless you are ready to literally argue with your entire class.
Avoid trans people as they are emotional mine fields. Avoid anyone who using the term "problematic" is a real conversation.
Just be confident and you can steer the conversation any way you like. They expect you to balk when challenged simply don't or redirect them, hardly any of them has a shred of self esteem. Avoid dating women with colored hair, thick glasses, and tattoos. If you are at all masculine these girls will simultaneously hate you and want you to fuck them like a dog.
Ask me anything.
MICA is an art school, Im hear on a full ride.
Basically I'm one of two guys from the south. I've worked for suply companys, frieght and I work out. I'm by no means an ultra masculine Swchnager, but people look at me like I just got off a horse.
The female to male ratio is 60% women, 40% men, but 99% of the men here or either gay or so non-masculine that they don't even show up on the radar as men. The live off of cigereetes and coffee.
If you have any kind of grit, good posture, fitness and confidence you look like some pillar of masculinity. I catch myself noticing it. Back home a bearded muscaulr guy is common, here it's like spotting the cardinal in the woods.
They preach feminism and how masculinity is evil due to their social conditioning, but can't escape the fact that deep down they want a strong masculine man.
Again, I'm not even that prime a specimen, I hit the gym maybe 3 times a week.
A warning I forgot: You are going to be throw so many offers for tail you'll feel like Thor. DO NOT ENGAGE, I REPEAT DO NOT ENGAGE.
I was an RA for one year and I got friendly with on old lady who worked in the nurses office, she relayed to me that 45% of students on campus REPORTED and STD the got freshman or sophmore year.
45% reported, alone. That's 45% confirmed to have STDs not counting those who didn't go to the schools nurse or had one before coming.
Take a qt traditional foreign girl as a girl friend, I'm now dating a wife material Korean woman. If it's a liberal school they will be high on international students.
SAIC alum here.
I was a bro-ish dude out of HS, lifted weights, watched sports, drank beer, and just loved music videos so much that I went to an art college.
Tons of feminine gays, loser nerds, STINKY unhygienic art fags, and FOB Asians.
Of the small amount of decent girls, i fucked almost all of them, regardless of political views. Even the uggos pretended that they hated me, yet followed me around.
Yep. I'll miss the vaginia magnetism I have here, but not the stifling hivemind once I gradaute.
It throws them for a loop. You can criticize something non-white/western, they'll get all mad, want to call you racist and then your Korean gf comes in and sits on your lap and you can see them start to implode inside, trying to comprehend this non black and white development. I've really gotten to enjoy it. Honestly I was afraid my first year here, now it's kind of a game watching them struggle with their beliefs.
Liberal used to mean moderate, not by today's standards. I thought I was liberal before MICA, then I found out I don't hate myself or my heritage enough and I don't sympathize with ISIS and people who looting liquor stores enough to be considered liberal.
By the new standard I'm Hitler.
Citizen of Toronto here. Pretty familiar with UofT students.
You're not going to fit in. I fit in pretty well, I'm a second-gen immigrant from a muslim family dating a white girl who smokes weed on a regular basis. I feel very comfortable living here.
You're not going to be able to openly express yourself without being ostracized. People expect you to not be racist at all, sexist remarks are frowned upon, homophobia is viewed with disgust and ridicule. There are many SJW and "Safe Space" groups at UofT.
People will probably make fun of you for your beliefs at some point, if not outright insult you for them.
Toronto is literally just San Francisco with snow. We have the highest gay population in North America besides San Fran and New York I think.
Yea if you're brown, you can basically be as racist as you want at MICA, Muslims are in especially short supply. You could basically rape a woman in broad daylight and call it a cultural misunderstanding and the student body would say "why are people so upset when brown people do this, when white men do X! White men do this in secret 5 bagillion time more: Source: My Feelings"
If the argument happen in class, and you are starting to win the argument, and your view isn't "progressive enough" the professor will quickly interrupt and gently say something like "this is a heated issue, lets get back to the reading".
Your professor will also gives suggestions on who to vote for and you'll get better grades for papers that agree with the professor's stance, but this is probably true in any college.
I forgot to mention I am going to take a STEM major, so the majority of my classes will be in the STEM faculties.
Does this change things? Are people in the STEM classes less SJW?
Why would your political views ever come up in your school/mingling?
Unless you're doing something retarded like political science or lib arts.
I see libs and cons work well together . But that was in STEM where a higher calling bound them together.
why do neocons all think their irrational hatred of anyone that isn't exactly like them is a "political view"? im politically a conservative, low-government type but i at least have default love and respect for other people regardless of how similar they are to me unless they are criminally hateful. this is a disappointing thread to witness, especially disappointed that there are people like OP in the same city as me
>How can I coexist there with the other liberals there
It is very difficult. The modern university climate puts leftist shit into all sorts of required classes. At some point you will be writing a paper about why you personally are a rapist just because you are male (or why you are a racist just because you are white etc.)
I acted like I was an undercover agent trying to infiltrate my enemy. (How would a Socialist answer this question?) The profs loved it.