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Hello /adv/
I come to you guys in need of insight on a very particular situation.

I am in a great relationship with a girl who is madly in love with me. The sex in our relationship is pretty damn good too, but the problem is she does not like my cum in her mouth.

Its a weird one, she doesnt mind me finishing on her body, or even when it gets on her face/hair. and she gives me oral at least once when i visit her every week, during which she's extremely enthusiastic and seems to be enjoying herself. But when it gets to the end, she outright does everything she can to avoid getting it in or near her mouth, and it ruins it for me.

I need the twisted minds of 4chan to come together and figure out a way of manipulating/persuading her to do this for me.

I have sat down with her and spoke about it, telling her things like how much I love it and that she looked hot as shit when she previously did it. but all's I ever get out of her is "I just dont like it." I have a gut feeling theres a mental block here... I can provide any more info needed that may help solve this problem.

>tldr: In a great relationship with great sex, but she wont let me cum in her mouth, wat do?

>pic unrelated
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How the fuck is that weird lol? Cum is hot and all but is smells gross. You try it and then we'll see.
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>>16657667
I have tried my own cum, it tastes like nothing which is why i dont understand the fuss.

And by "weird" i meant i find it strange how she doesnt mind it anywhere else in/on her body.
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Don't cum in her mouth.
Bam, solved.
Actually respect what she doesn't like and enjoy the otherwise great sex and relationship, you whiny pissbaby.
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>>16657679
It's not the taste, it's the smell that's off-putting. I used to fantasize about drinking gallons of cum when I was a virgin and had never had a penis in my mouth but after smelling it it's not as appealing. I mean I'd still do it if it made the guy really happy but I can understand why someone would be put off. Getting it anywhere else is completely different and hot.
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>>16657686
This.

/thread
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>>16657689
Same with me and vaginas. I'm not against oral, but it's not as great tasting as I once thought about.

>>16657679
It's not an uncommon thing. But ask her if she'd at least be willing to let it go in and tell her she doesn't have to swallow it. That's probably more of her fear. Swallowing to me is gross so at least that's my biase.
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>>16657686
I wouldnt be asking if it was easy as just not doing it you pleb. I want it, and will do everything i can to get it. Thats my problem, and why im asking.

I dont like being blindfolded during sex, but i still let her do it because i know she loves it, it gets her off and makes her feel more confident to try new things. So why cant someone treat me the same?
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>>16657660
Just be happy you have a girlfriend who likes fucking your stupid ungrateful ass and stop getting hung up about something this petty.
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>>16657709
In what way is wearing a blindfold and putting something else in your mouth even remotely similar.

Let me ask you this, would you drink your cum? Do you want your cum in your mouth?
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>>16657689
She's told me she doesnt mind the smell, said it reminds her of swimming pools.

>>16657698
Already asked her this. She said "we can give it a try, but i still dont like it."

This was over a month ago, i havnt brought it up since, and she still hasnt tried it.
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>>16657719
Yeah and you don't want to drink pool water.
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>>16657709
Have you told her this?

I like menstrual play and my partner thinks it's disgusting. Thus, I do not force my kink on my partner. Magical.

Wearing a blindfold is not the same thing as asking someone to do a pornstar move for you.

Sex is not porn.

Also, why would you fucking MANIPULATE the person you admit to having a great relationship with for something that stupid? Why are you obsessed with it?
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>>16657713
Its the princible behind it. I do something for her i dont like because i know she loves it. I want the same treatment, im not asking a lot.
Why is this so hard to understand?

In response to your question, if i had a boyfreind i loved, and letting him cum in my mouth made him melt into a puddle, then yes. I would want it. Regardless of how much i didnt like the taste or texture or smell, id still want it because i knew it would make him happy.

>the single gayest thing I've ever written
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>>16657736
So if she told you she enjoys it when guys drink her piss you'd do it?
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>>16657736
OK dude, here's the thing, bodily fluids and blindfolds are not the same thing. Full stop. Stop martyring yourself. When it comes to sexuality, everyone is different. At the end of the day, some things are totally off the table and there's no going around that. I assume if she told you that pegging you with a strapon would the hottest thing she could think of you probably wouldn't let that shit fly. You can't make her do something she doesn't want to do no matter how badly you want her to, and if you push it too much she's just going to resent you for it and your sex life will be ruined.

Now, I'm assuming from what you've posted so far she's literally never had cum in her mouth before. OK, let's say it's just a mental thing, let's say that if she actually did take some in her mouth it wouldn't be the end of the world and it might be something she could get behind FOR YOU. You can't manipulate her, you can't trick her. All you can do is just ask. If she says no, let it go. At the end of the day it's still her choice. And if it's a deal breaker for you (somehow, holy shit), maybe you need a new girl.
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>>16657729
Im obsessed with it because she's fucking good at it, and it is a major turn on for me, Its a fetish ive had forever and I need it satisfied.

Im not asking her to be a pornstar either, i dont want to fucking finish all over her face and gargle my cum, i just want her to finish what she starts.

Also, manipulate isnt an inherantly bad word, i mean it in the best way possible, just... Give her subconcious mind a bit of a nudge in the right direction.
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>>16657748
>manipulate isnt an inherantly bad word
In the context of a healthy trusting relationship, yes, yes it is. Always.
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>>16657742
Id give it a go. Regardless if i liked it or not, if it satisfied her like nothing else then I'd do it.
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>>16657746
Slow clap, thank you.
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>>16657757
So doing something behind the scenes to make our sex lives better for the both of us is a bad thing?
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>>16657757
Seconded
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>>16657770
I just want to force her to do a thing she doesn't want to do for my own selfish desires!

Why do you guys actually care about her and want to respect her feelings!?!?!?
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>>16657770
If you are purposely tricking her (read: MANIPULATING) her into doing something she is adamantly against, it doesn't seem like a very good thing for her. But hey, at least you get your nut, amirite? :^)
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>>16657746
Thats the thing though, i dont think it is completely off the table. Its hard for me to describe what i mean, but we both know each other extremely well and very deeply.
She has done it before for me, and to be fair, my load was fucking humongous, i actually felt sorry for her while i was still finishing... I wouldnt be surprised if it put her off a bit. But she stood her ground, took it like a fucking champ and swallowed it all, she even laughed afterwards about it... Since then though, nothing.
And its one of the reasons I havnt brought it up with her since, I dont want to piss her off and ruin future chances. I just want a subtle way to get her more into it.
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>>16657660
>"I just dont like it."
That's a bullshit answer and everyone knows it. She:
>Hasn't thought about it
Or she
>Doesn't want to tell you because it's traumatic or stupid or w/e
She's got some emo issue going on with that shit. Because if it was a physical "I want to throw up from it" thing she would be able to pin-point what's bothering her a la:
>It taste disgusting
>It smells disgusting
>It makes me gag and want to vomit
Etc. She wouldn't just go herpa derpa "I just don't like it."

Don't like what exactly about it?
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>>16657779
Im not forcing her to do fucking anything though. Wanting to change her perception on/open up to the idea? Yeah, definately.
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>>16657686
>>16657808
Also I don't agree with this guy being like
>Don't do it and get over it
Nah, that's a bitch boy response. Relationships are about sharing each other, not just the parts we feel like sharing or want to share, but ALL of us.

To give an ultimatum to your significant other:
>I will never ever give this to you
without having a damn good reason besides
>HURRR I just don't want to
is being very controlling in the relationship because, I am projecting here, I imagine the girl expects the man to do shit like:
>Lay down his life protecting her
>Not cheat with women who WILL give him what he wants
Etc. So my wife expects my life but can't give me her mouth? Yeah nah. She'll need a better reason for that than "I just don't wanna." Ok, I just don't wanna raise that baby either, see ya.
>It's just not a fitting response in a committed relationship
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>>16657802
There's no way to get her "more into" something she doesn't want to do, ESPECIALLY if she's had a bad experience with it. Do you actually know why she refuses to let you cum near her mouth? Have you actually had a conversation about the time she did or in general about it at all since then? You won't get anything done trying to trick her man, you need to fucking talk to her.
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>>16657826
This.
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>>16657808
Thank fuck you came along. This is what I've thought the problem most likely is since we spoke about it. She is just reluctant to entertain the WHOLE topic for some reason and i cant figure out what it is thats stopping her, and if you read >>16657802 then you can see theres nothing that physically puts her off about it!

Any idea what i can do if this is the situation?
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>>16657823
These are all fine points, but where has OP said her reasons were "she jus dun wanna"? Did you miss this part where she's totally done it before?
>>16657802

Maybe she's literally afraid of drowning. And projecting your shit onto other people is bad advice dog, cut that shit out.
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>>16657833
Just because she did it then doesn't mean it's not offputting now.
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>>16657844
Also this. See: literally afraid of drowing.

You know, 90% of all relationship problems on this board wouldn't need to be posted here if the people involved would talk to each other instead of us.
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Well, im just gonna sit down with her and talk it through again this weekend.
Looks like using subtle ways to make her open up to the idea makes me morally comparable to hitler.
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>>16657808
>>16657823

OP and this guy both seem like sperglords. Jesus christ.

Option A: Talk to her about it instead of coming on here. If she says yes to trying, win. If she says no, respect her wishes. Not difficult kid.

Option B: Consider that maybe she knows it's a kink of yours and that she doesn't want to hurt your feelings by saying it's gross / doesn't like the smell / taste / whatever.

Option C: Find a new girlfriend if your load in her mouth is the only thing keeping you from not being a faggot.
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>>16657863
it just makes you a whiny pissbaby who can't be open and honest with his partner.

Also if you try the 'subtle' shit and get caught doing it, she will more than likely feel pretty fucking betrayed that you didn't talk it out, first.
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>>16657863
You know what the most subtle way to open her up to the idea is?


FUCKING TALK TO HER YOU MONG GOD STOP LOOKING FOR MAGIC MIND CONTROL VOODOO THAT WILL MAKE HER A CUM HUNGRY SUCCUBUS. And for fuck's sake get off your cross.
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>>16657837
Thats the thing though, her reason IS practically "I dont want to."
And she's not gonna drown in my cum brah, lets be realistic here. You could always, you know, spit it out.
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>>16657833
>Any idea what i can do if this is the situation?

Lil friend homie w/e, let me try and impart some old fag advice to you. First, thank you for that first line, made me feel good. I'm glad I came along too.

Second, you *want* it to be a traumatic event or emo issue because then not only do you finally get what you want in the end but you get to "be there" for your woman, which she will appreciate.

Don't force her to tell you immediately what's wrong. DO encourage her to be open with you about. Don't put her down for her reluctance. DO be vocal that this is something that you care about though and that's your personal right to have a feelings just like she can have feelings. Don't get mad at her. DO try to phrase your conversation as "I want to be here for you while also respecting 'us' and what I think is fair in a relationship."

Be there for your bitch, brother. She needs you. I imagine a convo something like:
>"I just don't like it" is not valid (for reasons discussed above)
>I want you. You. Not just the comfy parts. All of you.
>So what's *really* bothering you about head? Did someone wrong you in your past with it somehow? Did someone make it seem 'dirty' or something?
Be there and listen. Then figure out how to help.
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>>16657871
>kid
How insecure are you that you need to lord yourself over people on internet chat boards. Stop it, you're making yourself look bad to people who are looking.
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>>16657887
Why do you feel the need to push your gf into doing something she isnt comfortable with doing??
You sound blessed, she does everything else you want. She has ONE boundary and all the sudden you have a problem and need to "manipulate" her into doing it? What the fuck are you? You don't even realize how fucked up you are

Some people just don't like cum. It's like letting a guy squirt his piss into your mouth, its degrading you asswipe. Sure a lot of people are ok with it but some arent. That doesn't mean you have to start finding a way to trick them into doing it. Jesus christ
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>>16657887
Fear isn't rational. Just because she can't drown doesn't mean she isn't afraid she will. Shit's weird like that.

And if you seriously sit her down, look her in the eye, tell her you want to have a serious heart to heart about this shit because it's important to you and your guy's sexual relationship, and she still just tells you "lol cuz I dun want to" there's some other shit going on. And if she won't talk to you about it, she sure as shit isn't going to ever let you do it and that's either something you have to come to terms with or something you break up with her over. That choice is yours. There is nothing else you can do. You cannot "manipulate" her into doing something she doesn't want to, it simply doesn't work that way. And if you try and guilt her into it or badger her into it it's just going to fuck up everything.

You have your options, get off 4chan and work your shit out dude.
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>>16657901
yup
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>>16657900
Guy is clearly a child dealing with non-problems. I imparted my advice. The condescension is just a bonus, sweetheart <3
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>>16657898
Capped for reference, glad to see someone is on the same level as me for once.
This is pretty much how our conversations go anyway, Im always considerate to her, and while i wont deny that, yeah i want her to love my cum, Im more concerned about why that part of her sexuality has such big walls around it, and what i can do to overcome them, getting closer (spiritually?) to her in the process.

Maybe it was a mistake to word my problems in a way i thought this place would understand. Thank you anon.
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>>16657679
yeah and how much did you try? did you take a mouthful of it or did you briefly stick the tip of your tongue on it for 2 seconds? its like having a mouthful of snot in your mouth. its not pleasant
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>>16657944
I've snowballed mouthfulls of the stuff with previous girlfreinds.
Did it because they thought it was hot. I still didnt mind it and cant see the issue.
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Dear OP
Maybe she doesn't like how ur cum taste? If you don't eat plenty of ur fruits and vegetables it won't be that pleasing. Same works for females. The healthier they eat the tastier they become (especially when it comes to fruit)
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Get orange juice for her to wash her mouth out after (works best), I'd imagie this is a damn good thing to suggest,Wyatt confirmed?
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Lots of unhelpful fuckers in here
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>>16658000
Christ, i even went as far asking wether she wants to keep a bottle of mouthwash at the side of the bed for the same reason. She just giggled and then avoided the question. Dont think orange juice will work either.
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>>16658006
Very ironic.
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