https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/nacn.txt See the first synthesis, it's trivial enough to do at home. Where to get the stuff: Potassium ferrocyanide - photo lab stores. It can be produced at home too. Sodium hydroxide - pipe cleaner Sulfuric acid - the liquid from car batteries, you can boil it a bit to concentrate.
>>16650341 Thank you for taking the time to find this but I have already tracked down my own ingredients to get the same result: charcoal sodium carbonate cyanuric acid
These should be enough and they're easier to collect and produce NaCN without much experience in chemistry. I'm sure there are many ways to create NaCN/KCN/HCN but I have the above reactants and want to use only them. Thanks, btw potassium cyanide (KCN) is not NaCN but have the same toxicity I think.
>>16650367 I know they aren't the same, but usually people are interested in the anion, not in the cation.
For general chemistry, you'll want the potassium salts better, since sodium has a nasty habit of pissing itself with the air moisture.
After some more googling, the process shouldn't be hard; it boils down to grinding the ingredients, mixing them, and heating the mix to 300°C. Do it in a fume hood just to be safe for the others who might go into your house.
>>16650381 >has a nasty habit of pissing itself with the air moisture What does that mean?
>Do it in a fume hood just to be safe for the others who might go into your house. That is my one worry. But a fume hood costs a lot, I figured I'd buy a Bunsen burner that's portable so I can do this in an isolated outdoor area.
>>16650413 >What does that mean? Sodium salts are hygroscopic. Table salt is an example - if left alone, it'll eventually "grab" water molecules from the air to dissolve itself. I assume NaCN is the same.
>>16650413 >That is my one worry. But a fume hood costs a lot, I figured I'd buy a Bunsen burner that's portable so I can do this in an isolated outdoor area. You can make a simple fume hood with cheap materials, ask /diy/.
That said. Don't you think it's a lot of trouble just to kill yourself?
>>16650570 I understand, keep it closed and burn it with a blue flame. How much time do you burn if you can't open the crucible while they burn? And do you need to accurately measure how much of each reactant you put in? Am I doing it right as follows?
-Crush the reactants into x parts (I assume equal parts) -mix them -put them in the crucible and burn for x minutes -with a blue flame -wait for it to cool and you have the CN
You've said things that prevent disasters for me. I gotta say thank you, anon.
>>16650604 "Close" the crucible with a dish of borosilicate glass; that way, the gasses produced there can escape, but air won't fuck that much with your reaction. It also allows you to see the ongoing reaction.
I have no idea on the amount of time; googling a bit to give you some reasonable answer.
>>16650604 Similar reactions are conducted from anything between 15 minutes and one hour; still, I'm having a lot of trouble finding good info about this reaction, and DESU the ferrocyanide decomposition looks far more reliable.
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