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Is it really not possible to argue and discuss with people with facts, evidence and arguments?

Does it always have to be appeal to emotions, manipulation or arguments from authority?
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You can argue with ME using facts, evidence and arguments. I've changed my mind many times after having arguments.
But I will go as far as saying that I'm probably the only person in the world you can do this with, because for everyone else they just shut down their ears and spit their non-arguments to each other.
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>>18127091
I would do this every debate or arguement if I could. The sad truth is that most people, for some reason can't be frank and factual. Everything has to have some kind of slight of emotional baggage hand tied to it.

No one can just have a conversation without aggression and becoming offended / defensive. It stunts growth and frustrates me to all hell. You aren't alone.
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>>18127091

the problem is that you assume you're not one of the emotional based people. you are. you just assume you're using logic because you're you, and you must be right, and it must because you're a rational logic human who can separate emotion.

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>GF tells me she has hickey on her neck that wasn't there yesterday
>Says that I gave it to her
>But I haven't seen her since Saturday
>"How could you have a hickey on your neck from me, that wasn't there yesterday, but is there now, when I haven't seen you since Saturday? Sounds to me like X was biting on your neck."

X is her best friend who is a girl that stayed over at her place last night. Am I wrong here? I've never heard of a hickey showing up on your neck two and a half days after the neck biting/sucking happened.

She didn't reply for an hour, then said that what I said wasn't funny.

What the actual fuck anons?
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>>18127068
She obviously did it, there really isn't any denying it after that response.

Just keep prodding until she admits it, then ask for a threesome. If she says no, dump her. If she says yes, enjoy your crazy bi GF.
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First and last time.
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Unless you're trying to get a threesome, dump her right fucking now.

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I need some advice.

>be me
>26, /fit/, well groomed
>working on a career I'm passionate about
>travel internationally several times a year
>still depressed
>had sex only twice before when I was younger. Both were very bad experiences for me.
>depressed, so I avoid girls
>now I'm bitter toward sexuality.

What do
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>>18127045
meds.

meaningful relationship versus insignificant mates.
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>>18127047

>meds

Unfortunately that's not an option. I have medical requirements for my job, and I can not take anti-depressants.

>meaningful relationship versus insignificant mates

What does this mean?
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>>18127045
Go to therapy.
Even without taking medication, it might help you. Ignoring your mental health problems isn't going to make you feel better.

It seems like you have a personal problem and not a sexuality issue itself.

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Should I give a woman an orgasm from oral or fingering before I fuck her and then try to do it again while fucking? Or does that ruin it for them?
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>>18126936
Brace yourself for the hiroshima of truth bombs

e v e r y o n e i s d i f f e r e n t
Be an adult and talk to her as you go, ask what she likes and if she wants to come or not
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>>18126952
Yeah I guess you're right
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>>18126960
Anon is right, if you just do something you'd generally consider accepted or hot, chances are that she will be grossed out or turned off by even a simple thing.

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My boyfriend gets upset if he can see the shape of my nipples through clothes (the shape not the nipple itself). Some dresses have padding and don't need bras, or when I just get too cold, or when I'm wearing thin material like a bathing suit.

Is this as slutty as he says? I don't know what to do about being cold in a bathing suit. They're all thin. Also men's nipples show all the time. I can't stop them from showing if I'm wearing a bra and a shirt already.

Who's right?
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>>18126898
You're both retarded and you just want recognition from a Taiwanese image board to "show" your "boyfriend" that you're right and that you're always right so think about not talking to random autists on the Internet and talk to him about it since talking is one of the keys to a successful relationship
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>>18126898
I didn't know this was a relationship matter, you know you are a person of your own so why should you change for him.

>sees average qt
>outline of nipple kinda visible
>not like i am going to be more interested now than before unless i am a kissless virgin
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>>18126922
What the fuck are you even talking about >>18126898
For everything other than a bathing suite I would consider it slutty, yes.
You wear a brah, it's not so horrible, is it?

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My friend broke both her arms and a leg in a bike accident 5 weeks ago and has been staying with me in my parents house since then, because she has no family and I'm currently unemployed so yay time. My mom cooks for her, helps her get stuff, and so on. This has been working well so far.

I don't really know how to approach the subject so I'm just gonna say it, yesterday before bed she said she couldn't take not being able to "do" anything anymore and asked me to help her get off just once. I told her I'm in a relationship and I could get her someone else but she said she'd be too embarassed and doesn't wanna wait because it's been two months. I didn't know where to hide my face anymore. I promised I would consider.

What the fuck do I do?
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just do it.

If you're really feeling uncomfortable ask your gf and explain the situation, have her be in the same room or even have her do it.
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>>18126827
If you want to respect the friendship and your relationship, you should decline. Friends don't masturbate each other. She could find someone else very easily. She wants to fuck you, and you are taken. When you are no longer taken, then you can pursue.
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>>18126827
what the fuck is wrong with you? you and your mother are already doing everything for this girl but that doesn't mean you are obligated in any way to get her off. tell her to fuck off

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So I don't know what to do, /adv/. Britbong here, just 3 weeks ago I became a father to a beautiful baby girl, but a month before that I lost my job. I had found another, but I suffer from schizophrenia, which meant I had to notify of this whilst applying. That was fine, but I had to send off another tax form as my old shitty job apparently "lost" it. In doing so, the twatends at the government fucked up and wrote down a completely different mental disorder to what I actually had, rendering it invalid. With this, I also lost all my PIP, my partner's DLA (they're physically disabled), my carer's allowance for them, our income support etc etc.
Basically, we have to survive on 0 income until these arseholes decide to fix their mistake. I've been declared unfit for work because of it too, so no where will take me on until I've been reassessed. I don't know what to do guys. I've tried food banks, the emergency grant etc but they won't help me because it's all federal run. My only hope has been sharing this story on Facebook and having the odd person pitch in a few quid but it genuinely isn't enough. I feel like a failure of a dad and fiancé and I really don't know where else to turn.
Any advice guys?
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>>18126824
shameless self bump
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>>18126841
This board is full angry teenagers, not UK social workers anon

Go to citizen's advice ASAP. This is literally the reason that they exist, in the mean time you can also call in at the job centre and tax office for advice and contact any support workers you might have. Keep on at them, to lose all of that at once and have no allowance is a really big deal, writing to your MP is also always recommended even if it feels archaic and stupid

What did the food banks say? Go back to them, I've never heard of them just turning people down like that
There are often smaller community run services in areas (e.g. Crisis Skylight) that you could get in touch with for food or advice, but you will need to google around to see if your area has one
If you really need food for you and your little girl, now is the time to start calling friends and asking if they have any uneeded tins in their house

You guys can do this OP, I'm sorry that it's a shit time for the welfare state right now, but I promise there is a lot out there to help you get back on your feet once you access it
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>>18126851
Yeah man, citizen's advice in my town are useless! They just told me to wait it out and do everything I've already done. I'm just looking forward to the compensation I'll get afterwards haha
Funnily enough we had a social worker who claimed to be looking into this for us, still nothing back. I swear, everyone has actually started ignoring my phone calls and emails in terms of government organisations. We've had to move back in with my parents, but I've tried phoning people I know and most are not massively better off than I am sadly
The food bank is a funny one. Seeing as it's gov funded, they couldn't help me. I was there for hours whilst they tried to look into it.

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How do you fill the void after getting married when all your socialization until then was with the opposite gender?

I don't really enjoy being around other guys, even if we have the same interests. On the other hand it seems like every girl I try to become friends with ends up ghosting me nowadays. ._.
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I just want someone other than my wife to acknowledge my existence beyond my ability to make money sometimes

I can't get that close to guys
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>>18126764
They are right to ghost you if you are a married man. I dunno what to tell you man, talk to your mom? Don't attract any needless problems, my advice.
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>>18126776
Why do people make such a big deal about this? It's just a piece of paper

Not even my wife makes such a big deal of it

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Can anyone figure out what is going on?
Basically, my girlfriend is..to say the least extremely jealous person, she always suspects I'm cheating even though I'm not and have never for two years of this relationship.
Yesterday I went to my old University to pick up my diploma and when she messaged me when I was doing, I thought I was picking up my diploma and she gave me a cold answer "Ok"
Few hours later we were suppose to meet up I told her that I'd pick her up in 30 minute and she messaged me following
"See whoever you wish and do whatever you want to do" I just said "Ok" like she did before and didn't speak to her since then.
Today she deleted me and my mom off facebook, I have zero reason to message her back, Any advice what to do and what is going on?
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>>18126762
You can Tango or Skype with her more often? Take a photo of the diploma when you get there? I dunno, do some reassurance type thing next time.. if there's ever a next time.
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>>18126762
This relationship doesn't sound worth salvaging. Let her have her tantrum. This isn't just insecurity and jealousy. It's being a child.

If she tries to apologise then it's up to you.
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>>18126762

Her jealousy is turning paranoid and insane. Normally I'd recommend talking with her, but I've seen what this kind of jealousy can do and it will distroy your relationship over time and will wreck both you and her in the process. Walk away while you can.

Doctors keep giving me antidepressants and I always have bad side effects

The latest one (citalopram) I've been taking for 3 days and I feel so, so dizzy, can't concentrate. My brain feels like mush

It's the strangest feeeling, I don't want to take it anymore, I'm stumbling around

Apparently you're meant to persevere the first 4 weeks and be ill all the time

Advice? Is it safe to stop cold turkey?
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>>18126729
Side effects are part of the deal. Some suffer more than others, but they go away. Do you want the benefits of the medication or not, m8?
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If you don't want the antidepressant medication you don't need it. Talk to your doctor.
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My only experience with antidepressants is 1 suicide and 2 people getting severely more depressed

I've never understood how it's legal to prescribe them when they VASTLY underperform against

>Regular exercise
>Regular social interaction with peers
>Regular sunshine
>Good diet
>Good sleep
>Good management of stress

It's virtually impossible to be depressed if you maintain all of the above, EXCEPT for after a traumatic event or due to mental gymnastics, but those are outside the scope of both antidepressants and this reply

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Have been sick and started spitting muccus to the wall cause of lazyness.
Literally nothing gets it of. Any tips?
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I actually used to do the same.

It will be an absolute bitch to clean up later, and its pretty disgusting.
Id stop now before the habit got worse.
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>>18126724
But how do I get rid of it??
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>>18126713
spitting at the wall?
Do you live in a fucking zoo?

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Like, what do people do, when they have a hobby? Like, how do they do it, whatever it is?

I've recently realized that the closet thing I had to a hobby was something I hated doing, never got better at, and now cannot bring myself to justify having ever done it. It was purely mechanical, like I was expected to do it.

Like, if I had little trains, would that be a hobby? I use to have little trains, but there was no drive or urge to do it.

I eat food. I look at 4chan. I do the other things I NEED to do, but nothing interests me, and beyond that I cannot believe other people are interested in things. Often if I go down the path of inquiring, it turns into a fight and I get told to fuck off. So here I be; What the hell is a hobby?
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i have warhammer miniatures for a hobby ( building painting and playing games ) and it takes some time out of your day and if your lucky theres a place where you can meet people who do the hobby aswell ( like a games workshop store ) it helped me come out of my shell and cheers me up when i have shitty days
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My hobby is writing. I kinda got pushed into it but I now realise it's what I do. In the beginning I thought to myself it was too hard, I'd never get good at it and I never thought it could be a hobby. I learned a lot about myself by doing it. I got really good at it. I thought it was too mainstream to define me, but I find myself doing it because it's what I love to do. I haven't made any money from it yet, but the work I've made has made substantial amounts of money. I'm learning the system around the hobby. So that I can protect the intellectual property, and actually make a living from it. At the moment I'm a NEET at home with the baby boomers. It's not ideal but I know I'll crack this thing soon. In fact I just need to get back to it armed with enough cigarettes and it's only a matter of time that I will create something worth selling.

Good luck to you
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Hobbies are just activities you like doing on a consistent basis. Hopefully there is skill involved so that you can see yourself improving overtime and allow for that dopamine rush when you accomplish something new within it.

I've had plenty of chnaging hobbies over the course of my life. I think it starts of easy when you're young, like reading, or video games. As you get older, most people tend to crave something with tangible fulfilment.

Right now I do photography, work on bettering myself and my skill at the gym, and I play a few instruments. My goal with all of these is to *produce* something. Eg. Good photos, healthy lifestyle and body, and my own EP / Album(s) of music.

I don't plan to make money, it's purely for the satisfaction of having created something, or worked to produce something. This isn't the only way to have a hobby, it's just what I personally value. Some people like the process of things, rather then the prospect of a finished product. You can have a hobby and be completely content with the process of doing it rather than be driven to an actual 'end'

Hope this helps

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I spilled my heart to my best friend. She rejected me, we're pretending it didnt happen, i confessed my attraction, she said no, simple as that.

I went in expecting rejection but it still hurts. I fucked some other people to get the edge off but i can't stop thinking about her
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What do people normally do in this position? Things will go back to normal but this period is killing me
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>>18126595
>we're pretending it didnt happen
You got Friendzoned.
don't be a cuck, drop that bitch.
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Think of it this way OP. You are still her friend. You still get to spend time with her and support her. You may not get to put your dick in her but Is that really the most important part of being with her?

How do I get rid of a dead dog? Just bag it and throw it in the trash or what?
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>>18126586
did your dog just die?
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>>18126586
Be a man and dig a proper grave.
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>>18126596
yea, i came home and went to lay on the couch. He tried to go on the couch too and I pushed him off. Fucker decided to bite me. So, i grabbed a bat and bashed his skull in. Last animal I ever get.

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CALLING ANY HEAVILY RELIGIOUS ANONS! (Nonreligious femanons welcome)

I have a unique situation I'd like help with. It's relationship advice just like half of this board, but it's unique in the sense that I've already got the girl and everything's great... Well almost everything.

To cut the bullshit to a minimum, I'm in love with a woman who really likes me, almost as much if not equally as much as I like her. The thing is, she's 10000% Christian. An active minister at her church, youth group leader, spends 70% of her waking days at church and church functions, even as we speak she's 1200 miles away on a missions trip. Despite liking me as much as she does, she refuses to show any emotion or admit to any fondness towards me, because she doesn't believe we'll work out as a couple, because she doesn't view me as an equally dedicated Christian, and so she feels she couldn't marry me, and dating is wrong if your intent isn't marriage.

What do I do?
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>>18126400
Talk to her. Tell her how you feel. Discuss everything. Be honest. Listen.
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>>18126415
This, anon. Femanon raised in religious family but secretly nonreligious here. Tell her and discuss it with her. Be clear what your intentions are.
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Cut your losses. This is a lost cause- a lack of religious cohesion in a couple is disastrous.

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