>>333009 He's actually started another comic, Broken Hilt Inn. It's medieval fantasy comedy/porn, basically. There's also a sci-fi one, but all he has for it is a character design and like, two or so pages. He also started a patreon to support it; https://www.patreon.com/tehdave?ty=h
It's a shame he stopped Angel Corps; I never was a fan of the guro, but the character designs were goddess-tier (not to mention there were more of them, all better than Broken Hilt by far) and aside from the guro, the premise was actually a lot more suited to the comedy porn format. I hope he brings the conceptnbacknat some point ( or at least reuses Princess...best girl by miles.)
>>333172 We had a thread about this before, and I said it there, but Angel Corps should not have been guro. Dave said that the point of Angel Corp was to make money, and guro is an extremely niche fetish that has it's fans, but not nearly enough to really profit off of in the long term. What Angel Corps should have been is essentially Aco/D, the Webcomic; a totally spies wannabe sex comic unrestricted by censorship. Instead of guro, it should have been dedicated to a wide range of fetishes;
>Silver and a few agents are captured and silver is given an experimental dickgirl formula that gives her insatiable lust, which she uses on her comrades.
>Calamity is hypnotized and turned into an enthusiastic sex slave with a southern drawl.
>crystal is strapped to a machine as part of an experimental interrogation procedure. It's a machine that fucks her with a large dildo at 200 rpm perpetually until turned off, and will only be turned off when she gives up. Spoiler; she likes it.
>office intern gets his hands on a device that produces localized time dilation (time stop), and uses it to play sexual pranks on Princess and some other agents, and capping it off by having his way with the entire corps.
It would have been golden. Making the focus entirely guro was like shooting himself in the foot.
Broken Hilt is a huge step in the right direction, but I kind of feel like it's character designs and setting lack the appeal and potential that Angel Corps did, especially since itnfeatures a lot less women.
>>335407 >Making the focus entirely guro was like shooting himself in the foot. So much this. I sometimes hate that people only remember Teh-Dave as "that guro guy," because I really do enjoy his art, and that reputation has made it difficult for him to gain a following.
>>335407 >>335407 >>office intern gets his hands on a device that produces localized time dilation (time stop), and uses it to play sexual pranks on Princess and some other agents, and capping it off by having his way with the entire corps. >time stop Oh you my nigga
Ah yes, Dave I've been wanking with you since you were Scribblekid. You just keep dragging me back in. And I for one actually enjoyed more then half his guro work. I was sad to see Angel Corp's go. But then Dave returns with glorious new comic and faps have been slowly returning.
>>332979 >>332975 I feel like Bethany is Princess v2.0 already, but then again, you know the faces thing. HOWEVER, I will say that Dave's face reminds me of an ex-gf my friend had. And Princess especially reminded me of her. So yes, the faps were/continue to be many.
>>336491 I also love Dave's athletic girl's. Even the small chested ones. But Leaf was my favourite. Tamara almost does it for me in his new comic with her delicous short hair but not quite. What I REALLY want to see Dave take on next is an elf girl. I got a serious thing for elves in general.
>>335407 >>335533 Wasn't making everything super-niche kind of the point in terms of how to make money? Like well-drawn guro is one of things that you don't find at all often, and so there are some people willing to put ungodly amounts of money towards satisfying it. Sort of teh same way that you have people with very very well paying head engineer jobs that spend thousands of dollars on furry porn made to their exact tastes. Also I'm pretty sure that I remember Dave making weird fantasy snuff art long before Angel Corps, so I assumed that he actually was into it.
>>336840 Granted, pandering to a small and big spending base of fetishists was a strategy that had to dry up eventually, yeah. But in the short term at least it seems to me like it would be pretty profitable. Did Dave ever talk about how much money his pay-for projects netted or failed to net him?
>>336840 >>336845 IIRC, it was a combination of not having a reliable method of payment and gurofags not being the most financially liberal sort. The only money he got out of it was apparently all commissions.
So really, it made no more than he was making already (not much.) Add in a website he had to maintain and it may very well have costed him money.
>>333018 >>333027 >>333028 >>333033 >>333036 I know it didn't exactly fit the theme of his website, but I kinda wish he had more comics like this where the girls would come out on top. Just to break up the monotony of the endless gore.
So does he actually go through the trouble of making new characters, or is it just the same few horribly failing at their missions over and over again? Actually curious and I can't seem to find an answer anywhere, since the actual comic itself isn't coming up on google.
>>332975 What happened to this guy? I used to read chugworth in high school. one day he just stopped updating, then he came back to it a few months later for like two strips, then a few months after that he started a new comic and didn't get through the first arc before quitting
>>344184 He still does, sometimes. I edited out the the missing frozen chunks in her body in this one (if you can't tell by the bullet holes, this was outright guro.) I was going to post it in the next immobilization/freeze thread on /d/, but I figured this place is as good as any.
Couldn't do anything about the extra hand though...feel free to take a crack at it.
>>345832 Teh-Dave outright said he's cutting back on guro because angel corps failed and "it doesn't interest him anymore." He only draws it if someone commissions it, and even then, he doesn't post it himself on any of his channels, so the only way you'd run into new guro content from him is to go on gurochan and look for it.
>>349186 According to him, because people paid for it.
I wouldn't even call it guro, though...more like murder porn. Guro's usually a lot more elaborate and excruciating-looking, whereas in Angels corps, they just usually get shot or beaten to death with less attention to detail when it comes to the gore.
I met him at a con once. He was pissed off because everyone kept wanting him to draw the pierced chick (Chloe?) from Chugworth. His fault for making one of the side characters in his webcomic more fappable than the main chick, really.
>>340773 I think having a few schlicking fans is always a badge of honor for an artist. If I could schlick I'd print out my favs of an artist schlicked till I squirted on them then post them to the artist. No body shots. Just my spermless cum splattered over their hard work. I wonder how many artists would blush over something like that. I know its often done to celebs by the fappers.
It's a shame, I loved his Guro, and his Angel Corps stuff was so passionately brutal.
I liked to pretend that the girls were all sort of part of this clone squad, that were sent on impossibly dangerous missions that nearly always guaranteed death, but their consciousnesses could be digitally saved and uploaded to new bodies. All the memories of death erased but all the techniques and counters built in after reload and reload.
It's why Princess could do >>333027 and she was surprised by it; this is after she's died and been reborn about 20 times. Maybe something about they only use teens because the female body can forget violent trauma more easily (childbirth pain and stuff), the company scrapping or continuing the models that not just show promise but are sexually appealing to the guys running the system. That relationship with the one assassin could be him dealing with her coming back again and again, not remembering him, but falling in love over and over, or dying and fighting.
The one problem I have with guro is that the porn hasn't got a chance to explore interesting narratives like other fetishes does, and that sort of Angel Corps could really be cool. How the scientists fudge in little tweaks to make themselves happy as they salvage the girls, the life of being an owned assassin of the government and slowly realizing it through multiple deaths and rebirths. Maybe even a girl who starts remembering all the deaths, and how she responds to how she's been used.
Imagine guro porn meets 50 First Dates meets Moon meets Mission Impossible. I think there's some real fun to be had with something like that than a bunch of ALT VERSE vignettes.
his art's okay, but it's too bad he's a pretty massive faggot.
>make a really shitty webcomic >I mean REALLY shitty >like anime Dawson's Creek with jokes about Linkin Park and l337 speak, Megatokyo levels of shit >openly detest your fanbase because they hate your awful jokes and plots and just want to see your half naked characters go full naked >call them underage perverts and swear you'll never do it while continuing to draw your characters having PG-13 sex and running around topless >then quit and draw a bunch of guro shit
I can't imagine what he must be like in real life.
>>349788 I was a fan of the one where they impaled princess on a pole, jacked off onto her corpse and then dumped acid over it. Not sad that the coalburner got shot in the head either. Nice Hitler dubs.
>>353798 My favorites are the one where they turned Princess into a body pillow by describing the process of Plastification. The way the wire made her flesh bulge out a little bit before it rips her apart is really cute. Girls that have that slight layer of chub are super cute and you just want to chew and bite their bodies all over. And then when she flies to bits and they go to work, the end result makes her look like such a soft toy.
Gosh, I really wish talking about this didn't make me come off as such an edgelord. I really do like guro, but I'm not some guy out for pushing buttons and stirring pots. It's just so passionately sadistic and taboo, and it makes such incredibly hot hentai with all the fantasy ways blood flows and bodies work. IRL gore is gross and unsettling, (like those fucking Zetas deaths,) but hentai guro is all about the fantastical and cartoonish view of high sadistic play and macabre in a gorgeous way.
>>338660 >I swear to God there was a non-guro version of Angel corp where the gore eas replaced by either good end or just more fucking. Anybody got links?
As far as I know, AC only had 1-2 stories that were vanilla or didn't end horribly, maybe you are confusing it with those. Especially since they were, as far as I remember, the first two or three comics, and after that the comic started killing the girls in more and more elaborate manner.
>>361282 "Man, we haven't got a single lead, the killer could get away! With a weapon that shoots ice!" "Well we better hurry..." >puts on sunglasses* "this case is cold enough already." YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- [USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS OLD MEME]
I just got home an hour ago and thought I might as well reply to some of the stuff cropping up in this thread (as well as crap out a quick sketch of Princess). A lot of this is stuff I've answered before on multiple occasions, so this is probably the last time I'll do so. I'll just go through everything in the order that it appears.
Yeah, I know. Kinda comes with the animu-style territory. I've made efforts to change it up a bit before and will likely continue to try and do so, but it's not as easy as it sounds.
>>333059 >He is too slow and his free work has a low resolution
On the subject of resolution, I just sort of got into the habit of the 550px width stuff from back when I had to work on a 1440x900 monitor. I'll probably end up defaulting to higher resolutions at some point in the future.
As for being slow, bear in mind that the Vanilla Cookies stuff is almost exclusively "stuff I draw in my free time because I want to" stuff. It's entirely subsidised by my Patreon income. The lion's share of my drawing time is spent on making a living, I'm afraid.
>>333135 >tfw we never got to see this outfit in action
You still might... Not sure yet.
>>333163 >I kinda followed the weeaboo Chugworth Academy back in the day, but in retrospect it was kinda cringeworthy.
Yes, it was. I'm still happy with some of it, even though the majority of it was shit.
>>333172 >>335407 >It's a shame he stopped Angel Corps; >I hope he brings the concept back at some point (sic)
It's not really feasible to bring it back with a new genre. The internet is eternal, so you'd get a lot of instances of people who can't stand guro getting it all mixed up with the old stuff, at best confusing them greatly and in a WORST CASE SCENARIO boner killing their fap experience. Besides that, one of the many reasons I dropped it was because I was sympathetic to some lad who was trying to make a not-porn comic with the same name and kept having my shit spill over.
>or at least reuses Princess...best girl by miles
I originally intended to. In fact, a Sammie comic was one of the initial ideas I had floating around for Vanilla Cookies. The concept sheet I did for it, as well as an early attempt at a page has already been posted in this thread. The idea was to have her as a normal girl shopping for swimsuits with her friend (who is pointing out the super skimpy one seen) and subsequently daydreaming about getting fucked by a handsome surfer dood while wearing it in the changing rooms.
The problem with bringing Sammie out of retirement is that Bethany is an evolution of the Princess concept to the extent that she is quite heavily based on her. This means, obviously, that the two are quite similar in a lot of ways (although Beth is THICKER). My concern is that they might be too alike to use together, although I might change my mind on that eventually as Sammie is still one of my favourite characters.
I do. It's where the majority of my income comes from. That said, my commission queue is pretty long.
>Does he do specific requests or does he only do things involving his own characters? Cause I'd like one of me. Specific requests are fine, although I understandably prioritise my own characters. I tend not to do porn commissions of real people, it's rude. If it's yourself it might be okay though.
>>335407 >>336840 >>336845 >Dave said that the point of Angel Corp was to make money, and guro is an extremely niche fetish that has it's fans, but not nearly enough to really profit off of in the long term. >Wasn't making everything super-niche kind of the point in terms of how to make money? >Granted, pandering to a small and big spending base of fetishists was a strategy that had to dry up eventually, yeah. But in the short term at least it seems to me like it would be pretty profitable.
Ok friends, story time!
Pretty much every guro thing you've ever seen from me pre-Angel Corps were commissions for ONE single guy. He's since vanished, but he was an extremely prolific customer. Angel Corps itself started as a single commission (Chemical Plant comic) from a (different) single guy. Posting of the unfinished stuff resulted in a LOT more interest than I expected and we both agreed it might be worth having a go attempting some mild monetisation of it (he got back a percentage of what I made from Chemical Plant).
So, everything initially went a lot better than expected. I was very careful to make sure the payment system I used was "porn-friendly". Chemical Plant itself made me the commission fee for 24 full colour pages (quite substantial) as well as significantly more from the physical goodies auction / high-res version sales. So yes, that first foray was actually VERY successful from a financial perspective.
As it turned out though, "porn-friendly" payment system didn't equal "guro-friendly". Only way around it would have been via dishonest means (fake sites, redirects etc), which I wasn't willing to get into.
Sadly, I was already over half into making the second episode when this happened (this time via commissions from three different people rather than just the one). So why didn't I just kill it off there and then? Two reasons. Firstly, even without the additional monetisation, it was still bringing in quite a bit of commission business. Secondly, a surprisingly active (and creative) community had sprung up around it and I felt bad dicking them.
As I've said before, while I don't have any problem with guro (obviously or I'd not have drawn so much of it), it's not really what I'm really into. What I enjoy is making new characters (I really went overboard with Angel Corps, there were far too many) and cute/goofy/romantic consensual sex scenarios. A lot of the second thing could be seen sneaking it's way into Angel Corps on multiple occassions, the two major examples being over half of Leaf's comic being cute antics and an extended consensual sex scene and, more obviously, the enormous twenty page consensual sex scene with Princess at the start of episode two.
Thusly, Vanilla Cookies is entirely stuff I'm drawing for my OWN enjoyment and if other people like looking at it and want to support it's production, great.
C'mon bro... I was a bit of an edgelord internet teen, I admit it.
>>350217 >W-what are we doing on the bed, onee-chan?
>>351884 >I think having a few schlicking fans is always a badge of honor for an artist.
I always try and provide sexy boys for the ladies as well as cute grills.
>If I could schlick I'd print out my favs of an artist schlicked till I squirted on them then post them to the artist. No body shots. Just my spermless cum splattered over their hard work. I wonder how many artists would blush over something like that.
There's a LOT of pictures in this thread, but I'm not seeing any anal? No clean sexy buttholes, no explicit booty penetration. Everyone's talking guro and fetishes and this seems odd to me. Why is that?
Hey Dave which hentai artists do you respect? What about draw inspiration from? If not for their art then why? I ask because I'm drawing a mental blank when wanting to compare your art to another artist. To ME you kind of sit alone.
>you will never have all the monies to commission an Angel Corps anthology of guro stories with >>353457 as the added retcon to make it into a Mai-Chan's Daily Life level epic of guro-tastic misadventures >even if you did, everyone would hate you for bringing more guro into this world Damn you Teh-Dave, why did you have to make guro my favorite fetish?
>>362223 >There's a LOT of pictures in this thread, but I'm not seeing any anal?
In regards to my personal tastes, I much, much prefer vag sex. Since Vanilla Cookies is stuff I'm drawing for my own fun, it's logical it would reflect that. I don't really have anything against anal though.
>>362570 >Does the chubby one like rimjobs? Purely academic interest. Thank you.
No studies have been conducted on this.
>>362423 >which hentai artists do you respect? What about draw inspiration from? If not for their art then why?
I actually have very little knowledge of the "scene". I browse /e/ quite often, but I'd struggle to name any artists.
On a more general level, I'm envious of artists who can draw those smooth, sweeping lines that look like they didn't even have to fucking try. I spent the summer staying with Dan Kim about a decade ago, and that lad just sits down and craps out great looking stuff with seemingly zero effort. It's sickening.
>>362770 >Just a passing curiosity, any chance we'll get more of this goddess in the future?
Without the Texas cowgirl thing going on, there isn't really much to her, which makes it hard to use her in something else.
A couple of years ago I was actually toying with a non-porn comic idea based around her and Leaf being exiled to a backwater Central American CIA outpost on account of being a couple of idiotic fuck ups, but I couldn't find a way to really develop the idea beyond that initial premise. (It did spawn this image though)
Hey, I just wanted to say that I've been enjoying your latest stuff. Especially since it seems like consensual fantasy stuff is a bit hard to come by. Not that I'm entirely opposed to noncon, but it's a nice change of pace from what I normally see.
>>362944 >Timestop isn't bad Nice. Any chance Bethany's got a time stop spell up her sleeve and perhaps some bisexual tendencies? Or perhaps another character has gets their hands on a magic hourglass and gets frisky with a Broken Hilt patron or two?
>>362948 It's one of those things that's kind of related to both /h/ and /d/ because of the fact that it's not terribly outlandish. Pretty much everyone's fantasized about stopping time and fondling their crush or that cutie at the office at some point
>>363002 >Any chance Bethany's got a time stop spell up her sleeve and perhaps some bisexual tendencies? Or perhaps another character has gets their hands on a magic hourglass and gets frisky with a Broken Hilt patron or two? Oh god I hope so.
>Pretty much everyone's fantasized about stopping time and fondling their crush or that cutie at the office at some point I do it regularly with every attractive woman I come across. It's pretty much a compulsion at this point.
I don't even always want to fuck them, sometimes I just want to shove my face in their tits/crotch.
Particularly princess, goddamn. She seems like she'd be fun to play sexual time stop pranks on.
>>362927 Hey, it's you. I remember you from the time stop threads awhile ago. You may not remember me, but I was the one that requested Peach and Zelda. I never thought in a million years that you'd actually make them. Thanks for that.
>>363002 Any chance Bethany's got a time stop spell up her sleeve and perhaps some bisexual tendencies? Or perhaps another character has gets their hands on a magic hourglass and gets frisky with a Broken Hilt patron or two?
That kind of reminds me of the pervy mage from the Broquest meme. Part of me likes to imagine he regularly dilates time for short intervals so he can molest your female companions without their knowledge, cum in their food, and sniff their loincloths.
What compels a man to draw guro? Like his shit is so good and then he ends it with a girl getting chopped into pieces for no reason. [spoiler]i'm just glad its not the horribly detailed and pretty bad shit that most guro niggers draw[/spoiler]
>>361763 well, i see a storyline for broken hilt princess (now a literal princess) is the target of bandits trying to kidnap her and beth is kidnapped in her place due to the lookalike-ishness! saved by the party, sexy time ensue!
>>363326 Comissions or they like the fetish. I could ask what compels people to make slobification porn for the same reasons. I don't like the porn, it disgusts me, and there are decent artists who I wish spent more time doing other stuff.
But I don't do that because it's a dick move to people who enjoy niche art.
>>363002 > Any chance Bethany's got a time stop spell up her sleeve and perhaps some bisexual tendencies? Or perhaps another character has gets their hands on a magic hourglass and gets frisky with a Broken Hilt patron or two?
That's a bit too rapey to fit with Broken Hilt's tone I'm afraid.
Anyway, that's it for now. Thanks for the questions and comments.
>>363900 Generally speaking, aside from The Selfie, which is up on E-Hentai (and apparently someone uploaded to another site or two) I don't post it anywhere unless I find a relevant thread, since as I said, I mostly just make it for myself due to a crippling lack of decent content, and the fact that I have a nasty habit of leaving sets unfinished because I always come up with a different idea I'd like to try.
I also have a habit of saving everything in one large descending file because my image viewer makes it easy to scroll, but 4chan and most places don't like this resolution (hence the downsize)
>>364624 Yeah, but it's the additions of embracing all that slobbiness or whatever that makes it seem worse to me, rather than those idealized pictures some fetishists make.
But still, do you see how why is my aversion to that is the same to your aversion to guro? People draw what they get work for or want to do, and niches should be able to fight for the few good artists they can find willing to work for their stuff.
>>365836 This artwork is completely inaccurate. I've always hated lesbians. I guess somewhere deep down I instinctively knew they were a sign of a declining society and must be culled on sight to save the future. Our Greek Ancestors were right to name the shittiest rock in the Aegean Sea after them.
I'm a freakshow oldfag who got caught up in the guro crowd. I love his stuff. The girls are always so soft looking, and he can be pretty inventive. Also like the way he draws feet and tears. Nobody else can draw them right. Bikini and sammi forever.
It's pretty to look at, too vanilla to fap to personally. Designs are nice and somewhat varied.
Angel corps was pretty fun. While guro wasn't my thing, I didn't really have much trouble fapping around it. A taste for ryona probably helped. I was content experiencing how characters were presented in the stories. It was certainly unique at the very least. Princess, Waterlily, Silver, and Shimmer were my favourites.
Some of the forum community stuff was interesting, Dave previewed 'upcoming' stuff there sometimes and held polls and what not for the cast of characters.
With Vanilla-cookies, there really isn't enough content or history there that has made me feel invested, even then it's kinda like another drop in the pool.
>>373958 if the guro aspect of it squicks you, pretend they're actually remotely-controlled androids made of organic substrates, designed for infiltration work. sort of like the Matrix, except with meat puppets instead of VR bodies.
each time one of them is killed, the operator gets over the feeling of having been brutally murdered, disconnects from what's left of the puppet, they roll out another one from the cell printer, she logs into the new one and they send it off.
that way, teh dave could have the same character die over and over in different ways.
>>374797 they don't mind. they know the girls are flesh drones, and that each one costs about two hundred dollars to print out, and there are plenty more where that came from.
they know that raping and dismembering them is similar to shooting a radio-controlled copter drone out of the air.. just a little more messy.
they know the actual operators are unharmed - aside from the trauma (and realistically the operators can disconnect long before anything bad happens, leaving the remote to just flop about, but they hang on for as long as they can to keep observing the base they're supposed to be infiltrating), and, hell, if they didn't want their drones shot through the stomach and then thrown into a pit of acid then they should have taken more notice of the NO ENTRY signs.
if you try to pick my pocket while wearing a glove puppet, and i pull the glove puppet's head off without damaging your hand, has anyone been injured?
Well, I believe you are. I will say this, though: This isn't the first time this particular discussion popped up. Back at the USAC forums and even the Gurochan thread, there were a few times people discussed how the whole "Agent dying and coming back over and over" thing could be going.
In all of these, I recall Dave saying that the episodes were all unrelated, so no death is canon and permanent... Except for the time he said those red-haired twins were gone for good. And that other blonde girl even bustier than Samantha. And then he retconned the twins back into life.
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