I'm working on a model based on the bimbo chicks from John Persons drawings. Body is not complete yet but I got the face and most of the body is done. I'll be posting updates as it progresses.
Feel free to comment & suggest stuff like clothes, accesories, cartoonish styles and such.
No interracial shit. Futa or no futa preferably.
Go for some ordinary clothes. Nothing too revealing or too prudish. Just everyday stuff. Mix it up with some pantyhose, some lingerie, bikinis. Catsuits, maybe?
Also no tattoos.
Thanks for the feedback. Any better ?
She looks kinda like Jolie now. John persons always gives them a huge jaw that makes females faces somewhat manly. And I kinda wanna avoid that. But as long as they got that bimbo vibe it's all good.
Well there MAY be interracial but it's not going to be just interracial. My thing is straight shota anyway. There's nothing like big bossy dominant milfs having fun with shy teenage boys :^)
There's definitely NOT going to be any futa. At all.
I guess I can work around that. It can be boy dominating milf style. Not like rape but reluctant milf having to fuck a boy and the boy enjoying the hell out of it style.
Whats wrong with the ass ? The vag was in the wrong position though. I posted the previous version where I didn't put any pelvic gap.
Also, pick a shading style. My fav is the first one to the left.
Vagina on the 3d model is way too frontward. Both the opening of the vagina, and the labia are oriented literally directly downward.
Also, that ass is too much like a camel's hump. I don't know how to describe how to fix it other than make that booty less like a shelf.
> clothes, accesories, cartoonish styles and such.
>bimbo chicks from John Persons drawings
First, Persons was just the cuck that commissioned 'the Pit' to draw them. Second, 'the Pit's' style is pretty awful. He doesn't begin to understand how butts work, for exmple. Third, if you ran out of steam on your Helen Parr model, why are you jumping to this? Wasn't that Parr model essentially "bimbo" enough?
I want to see you finish some stuff, you've got enough skill to work through your issues if you keep on target. Switching inspirations/styles constantly isn't going to help you improve as an artist.
About the ass - it's different on the original pic and on your model. I understand she's a bimbo and it may be my personal preference, but this over the top ass belongs to the uncanny valley if you ask me...
I kinda like this style. normally persons ass is just 2 big balls attached to a flat backbone
>here's nothing like big bossy dominant milfs having fun with shy teenage boys :^)
Where? seriously where can i find that?
I feel like you are a tryhard whore and I cant have any respect towards your works just because you keep slapping those drawings into each of your pictures with the 3d models
they dont even look anything alike, so,
fucking stop and keep showing the models alone not the fucking drawings
also, stop naming your files, pictures, whatever you post like "persons this, persons that" keep it as your own fucking project, not someone else's
only let your work to be INSPIRED by something
as i already stated, they look nothing alike, so dont call an apple, a banana
it's like watching a 3 year old struggling with a potty, holy shit
The last one looks much more likes persons colors but I love the first one. Looks like street fighter shading
That face is perfect man. Its literally the same face as the PIT with those blue eyes. You add blonde hair too and it will be fuckin awesome
thats hot. I'll be sure to include something that brings the ass out like that.
I took a break from the incredibles thing, but I'll get back at it. I just post the stuff here, no blog.
Thanks. I'll do it as soon as the face is finalized
Persons definitely have that exagerrated ass proportions so I'll make the butt as peachy as I can.
I don't see why not.
Thanks. I'll post more shading options soon.
Trying some different hair styles. I'll stop with the face and hair soon and move on to the arms so ı can finish the body.
>He doesn't begin to understand how butts work,
Not even going to do the whole 'post your work' but I am genuinely curious how you'ddo them. Because, as an artist in training who hasn't even begun to touch anatomy, I was under the impression that to exaggerate as the Pit does, you needed to have a good grasp of it. What exactly is he doing wrong?
If it's just the exaggeration part that makes you say that, it's akin to looking at a child's cartoon and saying 'People don't look like that, the animators are bad at their jobs.'
People aren't here to see 100% medically correct anatomies anyway. They're here to see cartoonish proportions with artistic styles.
If you're looking for correct anatomies, you're in the wrong place.
>I was under the impression that to exaggerate as the Pit does, you needed to have a good grasp of it.
Oh, you can certainly exaggerate the anatomy of the ass to great extent and I'm 100% on board. High test and all that. But yes, you should know how butts work before trying to do so.
But let's examine the anatomy real quick. You have 3 "butt muscles" that make up the muscular shape of the ass, and you have a deposit of fat that hangs toward the bottom of it. Now, the fatter a person is, the more ass they have, and eventually, all the gluteus muscles are going to be covered up by fat.
What doesn't happen, without ridiculous prosthetics, is what's going on here: >>331177 where the ass exists as some magical bubble formed in the general posterior area. This isn't even a "fake ass," this is an artistic guess made by someone that can't be bothered to find a reference of "large ass" on google.
Pit's errors occur most often when he's drawing a character in 90 degree profile where he basically just draws a circle for the butt and walks away.
Knowing where the sacrum is, knowing where the gluts are, knowing where the iliotibial band is, knowing where the fat deposits are and how much fat you want to place on your character, these items are how you define the borders and shape of a butt. It's not just a circle that you walk away from, it's a soft round shape that is "circular" but has a definite non-primitive shape.
Cartoons are cartoons, he could draw asses as perfect circles and faces as perfect circles too and plenty of people would continue to enjoy his work. But it's off anatomically and someone like OP trying to make a matching 3d model are going to be fucked hard trying to match impossible/overstylized shapes and proportions.
I have always been told my body proportions were unique, in a cartoonish way. Not wacky or ridiculous, just curvy and fit kind of like the original post. So to me this kind of art style is actually something I can identify with, which is probably why I love it so much.
I see what you mean, but it sounds like it's just his artistic preference. Art sends a message, tells a story, and as Steve Huston said it's better to make something too long rather than too short, make it look more like the thing than the actual thing, according to Vilppu. Besides, he wouldn't be the first artist to do this, obvious, Rubens got away with some rather abysmall stuff in regards to female anatomy and many artists heavily exaggerated musculature, if othing else to serve a purpose, that the figures were powerful, in moments of action and immense strength.
ThePit's stuf in comparison lacks that, but the message is definitely these are hyper feminine well-endowed women with cartoony proportions. But you are right, to try to emulate this into 3d would be a hard sell. I realize I could have just said that but.... OP might be better off using a Legoman body type or some sort of mix. I wouldn't complain.
I know ThePit is shooting for a particular niche audience which i'm not a part of, but i think if he made slight changes to his characters he could cast a wider net and appeal to alot more people. Firstly the faces are just too fucking plastic looking in an anatomical way. The lips are retarded big...18 year old white chicks just don't have lips that big. The jaws are too square with the chins too pronounced. It makes the characters look mannish if not for the balloon lips.
Secondly, the asses are too much. He's trying to portray the "brazilian buttlift" shit that the kartrashians and lots of instagram sluts have had done. Look at Blac Chyna...that is a monster sized brazilian buttlift...it's so much it literally hangs off her backside like 2 huge tumors. This type of ass isn't appealing to most people. The characters can still have big asses but if they were more natural looking similar to Legoman it would look alot better.
As for the tits i don't have much complaint...he seems to do them well enough and fake tits are fake tits, but he seems to draw more natural looking ones also.
Depends on the model. Is the character some MILFy plump housewife that doesn't do a lot of work? Is she chubby in the best places (ass, thighs, bit of pudge at the belly)? Or is she very active and does she exercise frequently, in which case the toned physique is expected.
In regards to mixing the styles, the Pit is always on the latter, while LM dabbled in the former. In the end this is OP's bag, his project, so the way he'll style the body is up to him, it'll be his original work inspired by others, as all art is.
Legoman's girls are very voluptuous, hourglass figures with thick thighs and asses, and thick all around. The Pit's in contrast are lithe and stacked, which reads well but doesn't make much sense unless they won the genetic lottery. Since the chick is going to be a MILF she should be pretty thick, or at least not gymnast/swimmer thin, but that's just my opinion.
They're from several years ago, before cringe threads were a thing. There's a whole series of them, and blog-type posts about working on your cartoon Goofy suits or whatever.
Really kinda creepy shit, but nothing compared to that guy that makes life-size dolls that he sits with, has tea with, etc, despite having a real wife and kids. I am not doing him justice. Fucking psychotic shit, from a battlestation thread.
Made a preview for the texture base. I saw a few posts about the body proportions, I will tone down the muscles a little and enlarge the thighs so it will be a mix of Persons and Legoman.
The artists name is The Pit, how are you not getting that?
Also, the map you're using for the face is obviously temporary, but it also obviously symmetrical. For as much detail you're trying for you better not be sharing uvs on the face.
Well this is just an option. It might just be better to use simple shading with flat colors like the original drawings rather than a realistic face texture.
I'm just throwing things out there at the moment, there's nothing solid yet
The cartoonish face did fit better with the rest of the body. this is unnecessarily realistic except for the eyes. Also go back to the incredibles game once in a while please. I'd rather see that than another project.
Tried to fix the face so that it looked less like a tranny and more like an actual woman. This is what he needs to fix the most. The body i can accept somewhat but the faces have too many sharp angles and edges that are more associated with men than women.
but its not gonna be that special if it looks like another girl. strong jaws and cheekbones give her a masculine feature for sure but thats kinda the idea. you're fucking a strong bimbo dominant slut. Just look at the muscles in all the girls thePit draws, they all look like bodybuilders
>My thing is straight shota anyway. There's nothing like big bossy dominant milfs having fun with shy teenage boys :^)
>I guess I can work around that. It can be boy dominating milf style. Not like rape but reluctant milf having to fuck a boy and the boy enjoying the hell out of it style.
And I'm no longer interested
I could never put my finger on why ThePit's art turned me off so much before. It always had a "plastic surgery gone wrong look," but the effect was much stronger than that.
Now it's crystal clear, the strong cheekbones, chiseled jawlines, the overinjected fishlips, spherical balloon like tits and asses; these aren't women, they're MtF trannies.
Now that I see it, I'm shocked no one has shopped penises onto all his characters, particularly how popular futa/dickgirls/trannies are on aco and 4chan in general. They'd look much more appropriate and probably have a huge following here.