>>138381307 I liked the first 13 episodes. It reminded me of .hack back then and I loved the high-stakes even tho I knew the MC wouldn't die like a chump. Also I actually thought it'd be one of the first anime where the MC has the guts to settle the harem issue. I felt it was refreshing to see both the guy and the girl realize their live instead of beat around the bush like dumb brats. And then the dumb shit started on ALO.
>>138382471 I'm in the minority where i thought that the arc where Asuna was the MC was one of the worst arcs, next to the AOL arc. The drama was forced, the fact that they treated some girl dying of Aids as some sort of gran messiah was laughably over dramatic. They could have made it really emotional and subdued but they kept on slamming you over the head with the fact this girl is going to die, and demanding that you feel sad about it. GGO and even the SAO arc were just boring. Both started out promising with okay characters, but they just became dull by the end.
I mean, .hack// was mostly talking and barely had any action, but there was something charming about it to me, and something engaging all the way through. Yeah the characters went on random adventures occasionally but it always felt like something was being progressed, even if the characters didn't do much besides discuss stuff.
>>138383102 She was an okay character, but your point still stands. Even though she wasn't all that great she was one of the only characters that had more than just a base personality and a distinct character arc.
>>138383163 I thought the same thing too. GGO could have been a decent arc if they didn't shoehorn Kirito and the shit that happened in Aincrad into it. Sinon would have been a far more interesting protagonist. It's a shame too since no other video game anime has had a First person shooter setting before, and SAO handled it poorly.
>>138383225 Man, what could have been. The author could have even kept his Kirito-boner by having him show up once or twice as a legendary player, but keep the action to Sinon and make her solve the conflict by herself and maybe with the help of an actual supporting cast belonging to her.
>>138383293 But that would require writing an actually good, interesting supporting cast that aren't constantly kissing Kirito's ass and talking about how cool he is. Honestly that's why I hate Kirito, not really his bland personality, a lot of MC's have that, it's just that his blandness makes the story and everybody associated even more bland by association. The GGO arc is proof of that, actual good things are happened and it all goes to hell when Kirito gets more involved with the plot. Even Sinon becomes blander when she joins Kirito's crew in later arcs, barely hinting at any of the earlier character traits she displayed in GGO.
S2 is so fucking uneven. I just finished the first cour and I can't believe they spent 20 minutes on William giving his guild an inspirational speech (and agreeing with himself in his head while he does it).
>>138383645 That's the true sadness. The author takes the easy way out and is absolutely shameless about it, I remember an interview where he wondered if he messed up by having so many girls fall in love with Kirito but he still just keeps doing it even with Not-Saber. So much that he killed off the male character that wasn't useless for once because he liked Kirito and Not-Saber sucking his cock more than he liked bromance. Last I checked some of the game original waifus were going to be added to the novels apparently and the antagonist is a yandere girl who wants Kirito's dick.
>>138383645 Yeah, I didn't like how they made Sinon into another generic tsundere instead of the badass action chick she started as. Maybe this will sound tumblr of me, but, is it really so much to ask to have a female who doesn't need a knight in shining armor coming to her rescue?
when exactly did the vast majority of anime and LNs and manga go entirely over to Haremshit? Has it always been this way or did we just luck out and not see most of the wish-fulfillment bullshit here in 90s and 00s?
>>138384403 I'd say your analysis is more or less spot on. I cringed so hard when she got recaptured by those tentacle thingys. I was like, "Why the fuck can't she and Kirito meet each other in the middle so she's freed by *both* of their work instead of just his? Especially since Yui had that nifty communication ability?"
>>138381307 >having material for a 12 ep anime >HOLY SHIT this is gonna sell good, we need another 12 >too bad gary stu-kun, your girl is in another game I don't hate it because it's popular, I hate it because it's shit
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