Ok, lets analyze this shit to see how stupid is DB Super and how ridiculous the power levels are...
With this in mind we could realize that Frost has the same power than Frieza in the Namek arc...so let's put it this way:
Goku SSJ namek arc>>>Frieza
Frieza after rehabilitation>>>>Frieza namek arc
Trunks SSJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frieza Cell arc
Trunks' universe Android 17>>>>>>Trunks
canon universe Android 17>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Trunks' universe Android 17
Piccolo=canon universe Android 17
Piccolo Boo arc>>>>>Picollo Cell arc
How is this shit possible? can someone explain why the fuck the power levels of Super are so fucked up?, why do they put my favorite character to act like a dicky retarded?
Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking when they made this disgusting pile of shit? it doesn't make any sense, I just don't get it...
You're the fucking stupid one here.
Not only stupid, but fucking autistic too.
Goddamn, fuck powerlevelfags so much. Actually kill yourselves, you don't even enjoy your own existence, why make us suffer with it as well?
Daily reminder that Piccolo vs 17 is the best fight of the series and it never will be beated.
>having any kind of canon
I'm laughin m8.
I'm having fun with Super. The western DB fanbase is fucking retarded and expects DB to have any kind of consistency. Just stop being a nigger and enjoy the fights. Or start being a nigger since they enjoy fighting. Whichever one gets the autism stick out of your ass.
>Piccolo Boo arc>>>>>Picollo Cell arc
What proof do we have of this?
If anything, extended periods of peace tends to weaken DB fighters unless you're a violent retard like Goku or a jelly man-child like Vegeta while Piccolo pretty much lost his edge after merging with Kami.
>Frost on the same level as namek arc Frieza
Full retard. Super has a power jump on par with GT.
SSJG Goku = base Goku after Beerus fight
Super Saiyan Blue Goku > SSJ Goku > Base Goku = final form Frieza after training 4 months
Now in the last arc Goku spent 3 years of training in the ROSAT which results in
SSJ Goku > Final Form Frost > 3d form Frost >= base Goku
You just noticed now?
>tfw piccolo is my favorite character
>the Frieza resurrection shit (which is worse than any saga in GT) finally over
>hear about this 7 universe thing
>holy fuck Piccolo actually finna fight and maybe be little bit relevant
>this shit happens
>Vegeta told Piccolo to forfeit and he was like "uhh alright"
Guess the daily dose is wrong guys. Vegeta made Piccolo his bitch. But memes aside this whole series is a fucking joke and as much as i would like to just drop it though i can;t because its fucking Dragonball and i'm most likely going to watch this shit all the way to the shitty end. Cant wait for next week to see Vegeta fight fucking Frieza all the fuck over again
Holy shit you're stupid. Out of the fucking pile of shit you got wrong, you totally forgot how Super Saiyan is a MULTIPLIER. That means the stronger Goku's base form becomes, the stronger his Super Saiyan form is. And guess what? He's been training in base form quite often.
Piccolo was always established as someone who trains in times of peace just like Goku and Vegeta.
True, we have no evidence of this being true for the time skip between Cell and Buu, as he had hardly any focus by then, but there's no reason to believe he stopped doing so.
We have never seen goku fight in ssj1 seriously since cell, but ssj2 could beat kid buu head to head when fresh (he regenerated though, obviously). With the amount of hardcore god training goku has done, I don't think it would be a stretch to say his ssj1 form is now at least as powerful as his boo saga ssj2. So frost is about as powerful as kid boo as a rough estimate. Piccolo never made it to boos level, and didn't do any significant training or powerups afterward. It's not crazy that he'd lose to him.
It's not so difficult, honestly.
Goku, even in SSJ form, is a lot more powerful than he used to be right now, because he opened himself to god ki and thus he learned to better control ki overall. He doesn't waste as much ki as he used to. In his base form he was on par with Freezer's final (golden aside) form; whereas Freezer, in his base form, was more powerful than Piccolo.
So even if SSJ Goku was stronger than Frost, that doesn't mean that Frost should be weaker than Piccolo. I'd say Frost isn't too far away from Goku's current base form (which is, as established, stronger than Piccolo), but Goku turned SSJ to end things quicker, not because he really needed to. Frost is quite stronger than Namek's Freezer, otherwise Piccolo would clearly win the fight without any problems at all. Piccolo peaked when he fused with Kami in the Cell saga. As he said a few chapters ago, even if he trained 3 years he wouldn't accomplish much, he is already at his limit. In DBZ it was stated that Dabura and Cell had more or less the same amount of power, and Piccolo was unable to defeat Dabura. So even if he always trains and meditates, he won't get a lot further than where he was back then.
Really, what the fuck were they thinking with this last episode
>Goku shows zero respect for Piccolo and tells him he has no chance of winning
>Piccolo says he's going to prove everyone wrong
>Puts up a great fight and he's about to win
>lmao frost poisons AGAIN
>three fucking fighters wasted on this freeza clone
Seriously who the fuck thought that would be a satisfying resolution? This is GT saiyan wanking all over again. Watch as they let Goku back in to fight Hit.
>Vegeta is finally going to shine: he'll beat Frost, Robot and Even-more-manlet-saiyan
>gets poisoned again, despite knowing about it
>Monaka is a fake and loses too
>Beerus on suicide watch
The Super Saiyan levels don't have hard power levels. They're multipliers.
Base Saiyan in Super isn't anywhere close to base Saiyan in the Freeza saga.
Also, power levels haven't mattered for years and were constantly made fun of even in the Namek saga. Characters exist on tiers, with certain ones always being stronger than others.
Goku at full power is always going to be a level above Piccolo. That doesn't mean there's no flexibility in fights with the winner always being predetermined, or that the weaker opponent can never win because of some number. This got disproved with the fucking Vegeta battle in the Saiyan arc.
Also, Piccolo had a good show that episode. He made up for his limitations by utilizing techniques we haven't seen him do in years and played smart by avoiding direct melee combat with Frost after what happened to Goku. He would have won if Frost wasn't using a poison, which nobody expected given his persona and the rules of the tournament, and took the forfeit so Frost could get the shit beaten out of him as karma.
Super has its problems but stop focusing in on stupid shit.
Frost did better in his third form than 4th form RoF Freeza against Base Goku. 1st form RoF Freeza was above Gohan SSJ and Piccolo.
So, yes, Frost is much stronger than Namek Freeza.
In DBZ Saiyans got stronger by accessing new transformations. They just increased the multiplier of their base power, so SSJ/SSJ2/SSJ3 were valid, more or less constant power tiers.
However, the highest transformations wasted a lot of energy, so in DBS they changed their training style to focus on increasing their base power while keeping energy leaks to minimum.
And since SSJ is a power multiplier, we get:
SSJ DBS Goku == 50x base DBS Goku >>> SSJ DBZ Goku == 50x base DBZ Goku.
Also after RoF Goku trained for 3 years with opponent on par with him, so he should be even stronger in the tournament arc. Actually, Piccolo did extremely well in this arc, if you keep in mind that he was helpless against RoF non-Golden Frieza. He might be at Fat Buu level now, maybe even higher, depending on how strong Frieza's 4th form was.
On the other note, power levels in DB were always bullshit, with no reasonable mechanics behind them. Everyone is just as strong as the plot demands at the moment.
MFW people actually think power levels have ever made sense
>With this in mind we could realize that Frost has the same power than Frieza in the Namek arc.
It only takes one false premise in your reasoning, and your entire argument goes to shit. The first one occurred to early too
>With this in mind we could realize that Frost has the same power than Frieza in the Namek arc...so let's put it this way:
Holy shit, kill yourself you retarded autist. Seriously how have you come to be so fucking stupid?
God I can't even remember the last time Piccolo won a fight.
Fuck this shit, 20 years later and Dragonball is still all about the Saiyans featuring other bipedal aliens that are stronger than humans but not as strong as the latest super saiyan form.
Saiyans are such a boring race anyway. Now that all of the saiyans are missing their tails there is virtually no way to tell them apart from a human. All we have to go on are
and the convenient
>hair never grows
so that Toriyama doesn't have to put any effort into making them look any different over time.
Raditz was the last genuine threat that piccolo killed
Died vs Nappa
Was only good for stalling vs frieza
20 ran away before he could be BTFO
Lost to androids
Cell ran away before he could be BTFO
Tied with 17
Cell raped him
He cut babidi in half but that wasn't an actual fight
Lost vs Beerus
Won vs Frieza fodder, but so did everyone
Lost vs Tagoma/Ginyu
Was cheated out of a guaranteed win vs Frost