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A couple days ago.
>Realize romantic love is retarded to believe in
>Can't enjoy anime that has any romance anymore
>Parent characters count toward this
>Can't enjoy series that reference things related to romance
>99% of anime ruined for me
>Can't even enjoy the porn of these series
Who else here knows this feel?
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>>138288781
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i am a doctor and you have autism
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>>138288832
How could so many people believe in a myth like this when 2D girls should have made them question the entire concept of love and mating?
I still kind of can't believe it even after 2 days. Am I missing something? I really can't think of anything but downsides to believing in romantic love.
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>>138288993
I know what what you speak. But I treat pure romantic love like any other fantasy like time travel, dragons, and magic. Something fun to imagine but purely fictional. I have made the distinction and am still able to enjoy romance as a genre.
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>>138289316
What's the fun in believing in love?
Characters in a romantic relationship will never be able to value their other friends as much as they value their lover. Automatically inferior to anime without it.

And love triangles are just absolutely fucked.
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Same shit happened to me, I just try to do what >>138289316 says. I can still enjoy something if romance is involved, but if that's the whole story I can't do it
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>>138289595
>Believing
Read my post again. Fantasy.
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If I didn't believe in retarded things, I'd have no hope for the world.
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>>138288781

I feel you. But the problem here is you're confusing romantic love with reality. It's an ideal, not unlike science fiction and the afterlife. The fact you are human, have sexual desire and want the opposite sex clouds this fact.

As an ideal, it's something you wish to experience, but on a basal level understand it won't happen. Real life relationships are frustrating for most people because they confuse shallow infatuation with love, and fail to realize just how rare and special love really is. Because it's so over saturated in media people think it's so common you find it with your high school girlfriend.

Romance was ruined for me after Muv-Luv (as was mecha). Both mecha and Muv-Luv's romance are unrealistic as hell, but both were so beautifully done and moving, I continue to watch romance animes hoping for something approaching that.
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>>138289771
>>138289762
Real life or fiction, it's still true that they won't be able to value their friends as much as their lover.
Is there any tips for being able to enjoy such an unpleasant sight? I just can't do it.

>>138289951
I'm only willing to be friends with people who have my complete respect. So attaching the title of "girlfriend" to a female friend wouldn't do anything except create a title.
So it's not about being unable to find love. Love straight up does not exist.
If you're dating her because conversation flows really naturally then you're basically abandoning the mindset of "everyone is unique and therefore can offer a unqiue friendship" which is pretty depressing.
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>>138288993
>I really can't think of anything but downsides to believing in romantic love.
I could say exactly this about being alive. There's more to it than just "upsides" and "downsides".
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>>138290100

Love exists, there are rarely absolutes in this world, but it sounds like your problem is you have a specific definition of love that isn't compatible with other labels.

"everyone is unique" isn't correct either. Most humans are dumb, with the maturity and problem solving capacity that plateaus after middle school. Population size is such that we get near-identical twins (or triplets) of people completely unrelated:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/woman-freaks-meets-doppelganger-1st-time-ireland/story?id=30330413

I would argue that fully understanding, appreciating, and caring for another person is true romantic love, independent of infatuation. Love therefore can't happen in marriage unless you were friends/partners for years before tying the knot.

Opposites attract is also a good rule of thumb. It's hard to find opposites who can tolerate one another, but when it happens, there's no trace of narcissism in the relationship.
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>>138290353
>"everyone is unique" isn't correct either. Most humans are dumb, with the maturity and problem solving capacity that plateaus after middle school.
Of course I agree. I'm unable to tolerate people who enjoy non-Japanese story-based entertainment and write the rest of the population off as soulless retards, so 99% gone right there.
I was talking about friends. If I had a group of friends, they would all be intelligent and therefore unique.

>I would argue that fully understanding, appreciating, and caring for another person is true romantic love, independent of infatuation.
I'm sure I'd do this with anyone I'm willing to be friends with.
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>>138288781
I've come to suspect that anything is possible, and it's perfectly fine to think about fantasies like real love and romance.

It's worse than just that though. Existential angst is the root cause of this feeling. But if you also realize the impossibility of our existence in the first place, and internalize that, things like romance become trivial, since nothing can really seem as impossible as our existence in the first place.

And yet here we are. A product of infinite potential in the process of being realized. But even the entirety of our home universe is nothing next to that original infinite potential. So yeah, love exists. Somewhere. Even in that naive way think of it sometimes.
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>>138290353
>>138290596
Also, dating because of the "chemistry" you have with someone (natural conversation flow) is also bad because there's in all likelihood someone better for you out there.

If you're dating because of the bonding experiences you have shared with them, you're basically deluding yourself into valuing people based on how long you've known them, which is really arbitrary.

>>138290657
I'm not convinced.
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ITT
>tumblr
>blogshit
>neo-/a/
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>>138290596

Maybe you should play Muv-Luv and Muv-Luv Alternative if this is a problem for you. Beyond the mechas there was also a major problem of unintentionally befriending someone you wanted to have a romantic relationship with, thus being zoned, then valuing that unwanted friendship so much you were unwilling to dissolve it to reach the next step.

I personally don't think of it like that. I think of love as a natural, genuine appreciation that arises from a long partnership. The partnership has to be willing at all points, otherwise it's Stockholm Syndrome, and it has to be maintained by that appreciation.

It's unrealistic to think love can blossom out of a few months courtship. That's infatuation. And there's no way one can 100% know everything about a person after just a few months dating. I've known my parents for 35 years and I still don't know everything about them.
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>>138288781
>Realize romantic love is retarded to believe in
Romantic love exists, it can happen to everyone. You just don't deserve it.
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A couple days ago.
>Realize moe is retarded to believe in
>Can't enjoy anime that has any moe anymore
>Formerly moe characters count toward this
>Can't enjoy series that reference things related to moe
>99% of anime ruined for me
>Can't even enjoy the porn of these series
Who else here knows this feel?
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>>138290761
>Also, dating because of the "chemistry" you have with someone (natural conversation flow) is also bad because there's in all likelihood someone better for you out there.

Fucking hell anon, this is terrible logic. Yes, there's almost always an 'ideal match' out there, but logistically you're not likely to meet that person. They might not exist at all in your lifetime, why is settling for someone who you have good compatibility with in some respects bad?

>If you're dating because of the bonding experiences you have shared with them, you're basically deluding yourself into valuing people based on how long you've known them, which is really arbitrary.

Proximity is not arbitrary. There's always a reason people are constantly around you - they're family, co-workers, neighbors, clients. Everyone who interacts with you on a regular basis has a relationship with you somehow.

If you feel proximity is a bad springboard for transformation in a romantic relationship, well, that's an issue with you. But romantic relationships that evolve out of other ones tend to be more stable than marrying a total stranger after 3 months of dating.
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Can someone get me a band-aid? Because I think I cut myself on the OP's edge.
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>>138290999
I don't think moe is relevant anymore.
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>>138289316
I've never understood this about some people who watch shows like that. People can rationally disconnect giant robots, superpowers, "being the man", and universe-altering twists of fate from their entertainment, and successfully suspend disbelief. But when it comes to romantic love and the way character interactions are portrayed, for some viewers it's like it's the gospel truth in that you just have to go out and find it.

But it's really no more believable than getting your real Gundam.
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I guess it's no surprise that no one else on /a/ knows this feel.
How many anime/manga are there that completely lack romance, really? Maybe 50?
There's not even a reason to browse /a/ when they're so rare.
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>>138291182
A couple days ago.
>Realize the mecha genre is retarded to believe in
>Can't enjoy anime that has any mecha anymore
>Other mechanical vehicles count toward this
>Can't enjoy series that reference things related to mecha
>99% of anime ruined for me
>Can't even enjoy the porn of these series
Who else here knows this feel?
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>>138291220
I went to an all boys highschool, to a university where there were about 5 times as many men as women, and now work as programmer.

I can suspend my disbelief in giant robots more easily than I can mixed highschool settings.
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>>138291520
>the fact that i haven't experienced it rules out the possibility of it existing anywhere
>this somehow doesn't apply to giant humanoid robots that defy physics just by existing, let alone when they move or fight
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>>138290353
>acting like love expert
>posting Nagisa
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Is romantic love same as platonic love or it has something more like touching hands
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>>138291997
It's something like an uncanny valley. Things that are way out there are easier to forgive than the subtle distortions of everyday life.
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>>138291267
>>138291220
Please stop with this normie-tier argument.
Robots and superpowers are usable things with no down-side.

Romantic love is obviously quite different.

>>138292123
Romantic love like "I am a man and you are a woman and I love you and only you and I will stay by your side until we die"
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>>138292123
Depends whether you mean the whole courtly love sort of romance, or simple "your MHC smells amazingly complementary to mine, so let's pair-bond".
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>>138292185
I mean all kinds
>>138292168
So two girls can't love each other romantically?
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>>138292227
>So two girls can't love each other romantically?
Another problem with believing in romantic love. You're limited by your sexuality.
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I don't think that you can compare romantic love to space robots. Space robots is something you can touch and see, but romantic love is something what you feel and can't even describe. It can exist if those two believe in it and live in it. It is like some kind of madness, but the right kind.
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>>138292439
Yes you can. You may see and touch the robot, but only with true, burning passion can you feel that which powers the robot.

Mecha is romance. Robots is love. Respect the Robot, for the Getter Ray wills it.
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>>138290100
You haven't clearly defined love, and if you did in somewhat rational terms, it'd e impossible to disporve it existance. While that's not the same as proving it, the terms in which you had defined it would be somewhat feasible when compared to the love I feel for certain music or my family. The fact that it is not some elevated state of conscience, but rather a result of biological processes does not substract from it: that's why you enjoy anime or escapism.

Now, whether it is really obtainable for you, that's a different matter.
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>>138292718
>Loving your family
Normies get out of my thread.
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>>138292771
>not enjoying a tsundere dad
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We are too sophisticated to believe in romantic love
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I love romance because I like pure of its interaction, not because it's romance. I also like SoL with character interaction centric on it.
And that's the reason why I like romcom shoujo, somehow the characters are more real even though the plot is meh
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I have no idea what I'm gonna do for fun after I watch/read the small amount of series with no romance.
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>>138292852
Not hating your parents for bringing you into this mud.
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>>138293010
I would give everythig to be everlasting. Being alive is the least of my problems; in fact, knowing that my hours are counted makes me feel bad about wastig them.

Dead people can't masturbate to chinese Cartoons, anon.
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>>138292168
>Please stop with this normie-tier argument.
>Robots and superpowers are usable things with no down-side.
>Romantic love is obviously quite different.
If it's so obvious you'll have no problem explaining it, right?

Also

>normie

Fuck off, normalfag
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>>138288781
You sound like a faggot. Have you thought about killing yourself?
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>>138288968
/thread
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>>138293010
You know, I just thought of something.
What does mother nature gain from us believing in love? I'm think the only thing it gains is the ability to make both parents stick around when childbirth happens.

Childbirth is obviously wrong. And there's no way something spawned from something so wrong could be good. I'm now less paranoid about overlooking something.
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>>138293610
>Childbirth is wrong
>The true state of the universe is with everything extinct

Speed things along and kill yourself, idiot.
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>>138292718
So, what IS love, then?
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>>138294103
Baby don't hurt me.
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>>138293010
You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>138294103
I would like to know this as well
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>>138288781
It's a good thing Anime isn't real then
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>>138294660
It is real, though. I can buy a blu-ray of it and hold it in my hand. It is real.
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>>138294166
no more
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>>138294103
Connection with someone. Like a partnership. Understanding each other. Genuinely wanting what's best for them, but not to the point of self sacrifice because that's not healthy (no I did not say love=NTR). Add to that physical attraction. It can be more or less depending on your definition of it.

OPs problem is that he thinks it's a lot more than that. He thinks all that starcrossed lovers bullshit, romantic dates all the time, etc is an important part of love.

For a comparison: Moe SoL is usually nothing like real life. Despite the fact that its meant to depict a literal slice of life. In that same vein, romance genre stuff is nothing like real world love.
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>>138295307
SORE WA AI JANAI
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