Wouldn't Vegeta & Nappa just wreck everyone on Earth once they get there though? Raditz is inadvertantly like Shin from Hokuto no Ken, he pretty much enables the MC to prepare/get strong enough to do all the shit he does.
If you're saying that you want a Dragon Ball that just stays like Dragon Ball instead all the saiyans and alien stuff then yeah sure that could be fun.
>Frieza doesn't keep that little shit Vegeta and finishes monkeyhoust >Androids and Cell are weaker, but still kills Piccolo and some Earthlings >Next arc is Namek >It's only revealed that Goku is alien at the very end when he finally meets Frieza
>>138222573 >>138222644 >No Goku death means no Kaioken >The Z fighters probably get involved in more World Tournament fights due to not being as busy >Gohan either becomes a complete bookworm or starts training older than in canon >Trunks is fully human >Androids come out FAR weaker than in canon because Goku and co.'s power levels would probably be somewhere in the thousands at most >Cell only has cells from Goku, Piccolo and the humans >Time Chamber would probably result in either Goku or Gohan going Super Saiyan Supreme Kai and Kibito fuse and fuck up Babidi by themselves >Eventually Beerus finally wakes up, kills Frieza and sets Vegeta, Nappa and Raditz free
>>138219726 Frieza would probably gather all the namek dragon balls. Androids 17 and 18 would wake up, eventually. Unless, the fight Goku vs Vegeta and stuff before that are actually a necessary plot for androids. However, I think Cell would appear eventually. Still have Buu (destroy Earth), Beerus and Whis. Clash between Buu, Frieza and Beerus.
>>138224624 >>138224688 Well, Frieza met Beerus and got kinda rekt. Not really rekt but you understand what I'm saying. With immortality, he could train because he never practice. He would be very strong. Still how would immortality help him, when Beerus can just turn him in to ashes? If Frieza wants really to be the stronger being, than he needs to think carefully. Can his body handle more power than Beerus body if he desires to be stronger than the God of Destruction or could even the dragon grant this wish? It's tricky.
As for Buu, I can't really say. Imagine he's weaker than Frieza/Golden Frieza but that absorption skill he has could turn the fight around and become powerfull enough for Beerus. Also, let's imagine Frieza is immortal, what would happen if Buu transformed him in a candy?
I have to say, that this Golden Frieza is kinda annoying because he's stronger than Super Buu Gohan with just 4 months and I actually like very much that Buu. Frieza using the dragon balls to be stronger than Goku but loosing because he can't control much power or waste it too much during fights would be better.
>>138225249 RoF is unfortunately this convoluted, contradictory bullshit that makes it impossible to implement in any logical entirety with all the other stuff.
1. Frieza gets ridiculously strong after a short period of training - sure motherfucker why not.
1a. But we already established that presence of god ki is a barrier impossible to cross naturally and no matter how strong you are, god will be stronger, hence massively powerful SSJ3 Goku can't touch Beerus, Vegeta surpassing him manages to actually move Beerus a few inches. Buu, a destruction machine fueled my eldritch magicks cannot touch Beerus either.
1b. Now both Goku and Vegeta acquire god ki. By logic, they should be impossible to handle by beings without it. On the contrary though, it seems like their god ki allows them to at least compete with gods, leaving them entirely vulnerable (though massively stronger of course) to their old enemies.
1c. Golden Frieza surpasses Goku and Vegeta's god forms with 4 months of training. So, mastering his form would allow him to contend with Beerus? We've seen that mastering a form equals an enormous powerup.
Would that be the case? Then why the fuck bother with the substantial transformation that god ki was hinted to be, and not just make Beerus, Whis, the god forms simply another level of power, instead of new and different dimension? This is a fucking mess and hence this discussion is pretty pointless.
>>138225678 True. I still want to know more about god ki and how Vegeta got it. Because if god ki Goku = god ki Vegeta and Golden Frieza > god ki Goku, then does Frieza has god ki? However, doesn't the Kaioshins have god ki too? So that wouldn't that also mean having god ki doesn't make you a real threat? Like, SSJ2 > Eastern Supreme Kai, right? Or no?
Also, about Frieza. Even if he masters his new form, I can't imagine him winning against Beerus. But it could be a nice fight.
Like you said, this is a mess and we can't create a proper conversation.
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