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Will we get penetration, or do you think Beato will get an anime-original death since she already did it herself?
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PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit

Once again we would like to reaffirm our stiff stance on eradicating Katia bullying from the DDR.
Under Erich Schmidt this policy still stands and is more important than ever before.
The duty to do everything for the cause of Katia is today greater than ever.
This is the underlying idea guiding us in conducting relations between the DDR and the BDR.

By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.

Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
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>>138057901
Nth for Gretel been an honorasy LStR-40
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>>138057989
I salute your constant effort in providing those edits Anon.
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>>138058009
*honorary
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>>138057901
Penetration is the best way a many can dominate a woman, so they'll probably keep it in.
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With Watanabe's directing this adaptation scores a 7.5-8 on a show-not-tell scale of 1 to 10, discuss.

I'm half-expecting the staff to have Iris murmur "Beato..." off to the side when Theo breaks the news to her, if that part is to be adapted.
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>>138058108
Nah, Iris was probably pretty happy to see Beatrix go.
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>>138057901
That looks pretty tame. They better go all out for Beatrix's death in 12. I'm expecting more blood than Inghild's at least.
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>>138058222
The LN spoiler says she was a bit sad upon hearing the news though. It's an AS "spoiler", FWIW.
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>>138058269
Didn't Vivi's death tip you off that they're going for a more realistic approach with those kinds of scenes?
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>>138057989
These just get funnier and funnier the more I see them.
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>>138058108
>>138058287
>blackouts
Stasi, get out. Your censorship has no place here.

>I'm half-expecting the staff to have Iris murmur "Beato..." off to the side when Theo breaks the news to her, if that part is to be adapted.

>The LN spoiler says she was a bit sad upon hearing the news though. It's an AS "spoiler", FWIW.
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>>138058287
>spoiler
Disregard that, I suck cocks.
Still, would be a good way to show they have had a past, methinks.
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>>138058298
Well, how would you realistically portray Beatrix getting gutted by a TSF knife?
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>>138057989
That poster kinda make it look like the TSF is shooting snow at Katia.
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>>138058367
Pretty much instant death from shock at having a gigantic knife with the kinetic force of a MIG-23 slamming into your body.
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>>138058332
Son, the MfS will stay here always, up to any hypothetical Goetterdaemmerung and beyond.
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>>138058392
Benefits of joning the NVA: you can have snowfights with TSF's
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The real question here is what's gonna happen to Axmann's boyfriend?
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>>138058482
BETA

FICKI

FICKI

>captcha: cactus
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>>138058482
Rape, rape for everyone
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One Commissar army
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OTP
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>>138057989
These are even funnier when you understand German. Seeing as these are grammatically correct, I have to assume you are a fellow Bernd?
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>>138058656
LISE ON SUICIDE WATCH.

LOCAL STASI BITCH NOT SO TOUGH AFTER BEING IMOUTO ZONED
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>>138058689
I'm just waiting for it all to end.
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俺は。。。俺は。。。!
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>>138058712
That image is just too sad, atleast she'll get to live a happy life in Extra-verse now.
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>>138058712
So am I, even if I know Lise's time in the Stasi Funhouse is responsible for what she is. Forgiveness is something she doesn't deserve, but pity certainly is.
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>>138058678
No I know not a sliver of German.
I just choose very carefully what phrases I can use and what words in said phrases I can exchange.
But don't tell my bosses at the MfS, I don't want to study manufacturing at the University of Siberia
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In October 1984, Lise Hohenstein met with the Vietnamese families of BETA victims. After a brief interview in which she expressed her condolences and hope for closure, she reportedly burst out laughing and made Laser class noises and mimicked two F-4's dropping napalm. Lise then picked up the deformed child of a deformed victim and whispered into her ear "Vietnam fucking shits, bitch", and proceeded to put on a pair of sunglasses and unleash a barrage of martial arts attacks on the small child. The child was rushed to the hospital where she was pronounced dead due to extreme trauma. When asked later about the incident, Lise became visibly sexually aroused and repeated the same attack on the reporter.
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>>138058772
。。。ルナを守る!!!
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>>138058712
That pic just ruined my day, thanks.
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>>138057989
>>138058875

Can you post an imgur link to all of these? I'd love to get a compilation of your edits.
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カティア、お前は俺が守る
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>>138058913
ええええ
リナは誰?
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>>138058712
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>>138058925
You'll get your Bundesarchiv IF the DDR ever falls :^)
As I see it the DDR still has a good thousand years left in it

>>138058913
>ルナ
>リナ
literally who
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>>138058875
Genosse nichtBernd, I am afraid you have just been assigned a new position at Siberia business school. You are to study geology and manufacturing.
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>>138058988
>リナ
ルナ。
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>>138058689
More like on the execution watch.
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>>138059100
What is it with comparing Theodore to Shin
I also see this one nip making DDR SM/ZAFT vids
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>>138059100
あああ
成る程
ごめんごめん
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>>138059091
Which campus?
Kolyma?
Kengir?
Ekibastuz?
t. Алекса́ндр Иса́евич Солжени́цын
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>>138059130
Same VA.
>captcha: Pham's flowers
Would be a shame if... something happened to it.
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>>138059103
A+ post good sir.
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What have you guys done >>138028783
You've unleashed a monster

<< This twisted game needs to be reset >>
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>>138058712

looking forward to this.
fuck lise, shes not his real sister anw.
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Katia has such a great butt.
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>>138059882
I want to anal destroy katia
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>>138060275
Katia is not for that. Go harass Lise or something.
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>>138059882
An hour of lapride, full of pineapple flavored piss.
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>>138060817
The whole thing is about harassment, why make exception?
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>>138061116
Because Katia is the shining light, the best girl, the one who must be protected.
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>>138061092
Man, imagine Katia's fat butt in a fortified suit rubbing against your crotch for an entire hour under strenuous g-forces. I don't think I could handle that for a minute.
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>>138059882
>>138060275
Gretel's butt>Katia's butt
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Ho many rape doujins will this single episode generate?
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>>138062712
Zero.
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>>138062712
-1
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>>138062712
None
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At least Irisdina did not get beaten up!
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>>138063004
Anime Beato hurt her way more than LN Beatrix ever could.
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Will they release BD outside Japan? Would be funny if they dubbed it in German.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubkKqFY_kkk
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Is Pham-nee gonna be okay?
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>>138063487
no
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>Ursula Strachwitz
Good God, what an ugly name.
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>>138063753
I think Ursula is a pretty cute name for her.
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>>138063753
ur ugly
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>>138063753
I actually thought it was attractive.
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>>138063753
t.Lise
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>>138063753
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>>138064145
I thought dick was supposed to fix crazy, not break it harder!
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>>138064522
Anything you OD is going to fuck your shit up.
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>>138064145
Was it rape?
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>>138065439
Yes. She was originally going to have it done to Katia, too.
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I've really been starting to like Anett the most out of all the girls in SM.
N-nothing bad is going to happen to her, r-right?
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>>138065535
She'll be fine.
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>>138065535
She's the deathflag muncher for a reason. Now, if you're a fan of big tits and wide hips, you're going to have a bad time.
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>>138058425
But she has to survive long enough to cough out her final lines about Valhalla after getting gored, so it can't be instantaneous.
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>>138065486
Which chapter covers that in the light novel?
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>>138065632
Annet's got big tits and wide hips too, though.
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>>138065693
Not as big as Beatrix, Iris, Pham, and Sylwia.
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>>138065692
Didn't happen in the LN, anon, this is anime original.
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>>138065726
Easily enough to rival Lise.
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What would a foursome with these hotties be like?
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>>138065613
Why are short-haired girls always the best in Muv Luv?
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>>138065731
I want to believe it due to Lise's history but another side of me believe it was simultaneous torture.
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I think I'm going to take the dive and buy the ebook version of BiS. I wish age wasn't so lazy with these and used the Tech Gian colored scans since they don't save any money using the greyscale ones in ebook format, but it is what it is. Downer that it doesn't actually release until the 20th of next month though.
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>>138065971
Who says rape can't be torture?
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>>138065971
I want to hold Anett close and comfort her.
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Rest in peace, Theodor's MiG-21. You served well and went out in a really cool retreat.
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>>138057901
>that violence happening to this hot body with dat semen demon voice

I think my boner just ripped my pants slightly
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>>138066024
It's just 6-7 Burgermoohlahs anyways. Not like you'll be breaking the bank, but good on you if you get the pics to us. It would be nice to have a good pic of the kiss and confession scenes.
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>>138065796
Look at that fucking monster deceiving everyone
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>>138066819
Do these really look like the eyes of a liar to you, anon?
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>>138067018
>>138066819
Anime Lise is pure evil, just like anime Beato because the director thinks that making any of the stasi characters sympathetic, relatable, or human is doing a disservice to RL people who had to suffer under them.
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>>138067175
>Germans make "Das Leben der Anderen" where MC is Stasi, and there other sympathetic Stasi characters. Not a single victim complains.
>Expecting Victims to complain about a Chinese Cartoon about they'll never hear anything about.

Goddamn.
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>>138067175
I wouldn't say pure evil. There's definitely an element of tragicness with Lise, but it's more in the sense that the Stasi utterly ruined her.
There was also that (bizarrely out of character for anime Beato) remark about Jurgen.
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>>138063487
OUTTA THE WAY VIETNAM FUCKING SHITS
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>>138058887
Need a name for Lise that's just as catchy as Marky Mark.
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>>138067450
It's more about giving respect.

He doesn't get Iris either. He said he based his version of her off of Maetel from Galaxy Express and said something to the effect that she's the perfect heroine that everyone else looks up too.

Nor does he really get SM, as he's stated that it's primarily a dark political war story rather than an intensely character driven tragedy.
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>>138067562
>here was also that (bizarrely out of character for anime Beato) remark about Jurgen.
Wait, when did she do this?
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>>138067819
Do note that Jurgen is not referred to by name once in the entirety of SM. He's "that guy", "Iris' brother", etc.
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Does anyone know who is that blonde aide that is always seen with Heinze Axmann? Does he have a name in the novels? Please halp
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>>138067920
But it says "their ideals", not "his" or "that guy".
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>>138067957
Bishstasi Jones
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>>138067996
Singular they.
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>>138067782
>Nor does he really get SM, as he's stated that it's primarily a dark political war story
What I recall is that he said he wanted to change it to more of a war story. Which makes sense when you only have one cour to work with, but... I don't know why directors insist on doing these things with adaptations. It happens often enough that even Shirobako mentioned it.
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>>138068086
So is it just a mistranslation, because both Commie and Horrible had the same line there verbatum?

Also, how do we know it's Jurgen. It could be anyone really. Furthermore, how do we know it's not just another taunt to Irisdina.
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>>138068180
あの人 is literally "that person". I just got done explaining to you that it's singular they. You cannot translate it as anything other than singular they without sounding like a colossal awkward ESL faggot.

>Also, how do we know it's Jurgen.
Because he's the only one it could really be in that context.

>Furthermore, how do we know it's not just another taunt to Irisdina.
We don't know for sure, but it's a weird line, and for a character like Beatrix who barely gets any screentime at all, every line has to count.
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>>138068430
>>138067920

>tfw that one Beatrixfag's prediction about the anime making Beato the worse thing since aids and then reversing her to be sympathetic are coming true

What the flipping fuck?
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>>138068430
How did all the translators fuck it up so bad?
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>>138068661
Are you retarded, anon? I have explained why it is the way it is twice now, and it is not a mistranslation at all.
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>>138068180
Commie is just editing CR script for this show.
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>>138068785
yeah, and they just added commie memes and not fixed a real error
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>>138068896
>not fixed
Spotted the ESL scumbag. Fuck off, retard.
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>>138068709
I finally got what you're talking about, and I feel like a real retard now. Just got out of college, so the brains a little mushy right now. They should've done a better job of editing it, because it sounds like she's talking about a group of people, possibly Hannibal and his guys, rather than a singular individual.
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>>138068964
Good, feel the shame flowing through you.
Yeah, I can see the confusion, but the context around that line would have made it a pain. "That person" is too awkward and ungainly, and singular they, when they had just got done talking about a group, makes it awkward. Maybe if they supported using italics, like saying [i]their[/i] ideals will be made a reality, it'd work, but CR sucks so they don't do that.
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Type94 reviewed more of the anime: https://type94.wordpress.com/2016/02/28/schwarzesmarken-04-07/
He thinks it's great.
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>>138069147
Type94 loves the director and was stating that the anime was going to be awesome before it aired even with the restraints.
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>>138065796
>those rations

Disgusting dog food
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can I just say that while there's a lot I like about Schwarzesmarken (the plot, mostly), this show has possibly the most inert and incoherent OP I've ever seen in an anime. The pacing of those first few shots against the music (Katia falling into the snow and being caught by Theodor, a TSF flying by the camera to show the "666" on its counterweights, etc) just feels really off, and the song by Fripside is not a standout.

Total Eclipse did a lot of things wrong, but GOING GOING was much visually and musically stronger than whatever this is.
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>>138069238
I don't know how he can be so willfully ignorant in his lavish praise of the director. I mean, look:

>Certainly the scene where Sylvia and the rest of the squadron confront Lise on the rooftop plays out very differently. Despite the increasing suspicion laid on her, viewers still feel that there is a very real possibility that Lise is innocent, and that affects how the scene comes across immensely.
She had just got done threatening Katia and looking like really, really bad news.
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>>138069552
Weird. I think the OP is fairly generic fripside, but I love the initial shots of Theo, Katia, and Iris.
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>>138069552
I have to agree. Being memorably bad is better than not being memorable at all. The visual direction though is just overall better. I think a more somber piece would have fit it. Maybe some wagner style thing.
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>>138069577
The director is very good at directing, just not adapting. I don't care about a 1:1 adaption. I don't care about changes. But a director should always do his best to capture the spirit and mood of a story when adapting. I've seen 1:1 adaptations that were still shit adaptations because, though they followed the plot with reverence, they failed to capture the special something that made the story work.

A story wants you to feel a certain way and take a certain something away from it. A sad scene can be manipulated to be a happy one or vica versa despite showing the exact same events through use of lighting, music, and so forth. In this case, when SM is following the plot, it still fails to adapt because the audience is taking away a different message or feel than the source material intended. Lise and Beatrix aren't meant to be hatesinks, but they are in the anime due to the way the anime shows their scenes or the little details it adds/leaves out. That's why SM is a shit adaptation.
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>>138063487
>>138065971
My dick was absolute diamonds during this part.
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>>138067920
>I'm going realize the ideals of [i]that person[i].

There, confusion solved, and it doesn't even sound particularly awkward when you place it in italics.
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>>138070180
No. That person is an ungainly, stupid phrase in English.
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>>138065971
I want to be the stasi goon who gets to violate Anett.
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>>138070300
>half the squad gets captured
>violate the shitty girl instead of Pham or Iris
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>>138070344
>Iris
Hope you enjoy getting your balls crushed.
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>>138070344
>Anett
>shitty
Fite me IRL m8

>>138070768
Yep. 100% rape.
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>>138070768
I`m disgusted with myself now, thanks.
Does it happen canon-wise?
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>>138070768
We sure it's rape. Could be Pham and Walter. You listen to it with headphone, and it's obvious it's the dude and woman are in different rooms.
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>>138070866
Yes. Anime canon.
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>>138070945
You know what I`m asking, jackass.
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>>138070932
Pham AND Walter are getting raped.
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>>138070932
They're all getting raped.

All.
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>>138070983
>>138071011
Jesus fucking christ, anons.
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>>138070983
>you will never get captured by the stasi and become the werewolf squad's fucktoy
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>>138070932
In headphones it indeed seems like it.
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>>138071047
That's like half of all Jap SM fanfics.
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://d2.maxfile.ro/wjfckhgkoi.mp4
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>>138071083
Are Lise and Beato there too?
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>>138071083
What's the other half? Japs fantasizing about getting pissed on by Katia?
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>>138071163
Sometimes, usually the plot premise is Lise and Theo trading places in the Werewolves.

>>138071223
It was hyperbolic. What's normal for Jap fics is what we'd call crack over here.
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>>138071100
Count me in Oberstleutnant
https://d2.maxfile.ro/vtpuxxnbgg.mp4
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What is the ultimate fate of 666 members? Will anyone besides Katia even survive?

When does Europe fall?
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>>138071412

>When does Europe fall?
1984
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Real talk, is this good?

Just want to watch something else than the norm this season.
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>>138071549
Not really, porn ears stick out way too much, but it does have some entertaining moments.
Think of it as of Guilty Crown done well, if you will.
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Just think about how badly they raped poor Pham. She was the dependable onee-san of the group and a dependable shoulder (or chest) for Anett and Katia to cry into, and now that very same chest was getting forcefully fucked by some Stasi scumbag.

Getting smacked into again and again with a thick hairy pole, only barely lubricated with her own spit, because sometimes the soldier pulls out and forces his cock into her mouth to lube it up. As if that's not horrible enough, while one guy has fun with the upper half of her body, her pussy gets fucked repeatedly too by the other guy. He doesn't bother prepping her at all to make the torment even slightly more bearable, he just slams right in. The only lubrication she gets is the kind shamefully given out by her body's own natural reactions to any kind of stimulation whatsoever, which isn't much at all in a situation like this.

The kind woman who was there for everyone, in a matter of minutes, in reduced to a helpless prisoner who can only scream in agony and plead to her captors for her hellish torment to end sooner rather than later. They don't let up - they can't let up. Lise's orders, after all. The girl Pham might have tried to care about at one point, the one that she even tried to appeal to the little bit of goodness left in her rotten heart, is the one who made sure that they couldn't show mercy even if they wanted to.

They need to brutalize her, they have to keep roughly raping her, beating her, smacking against her ass and face with their burly fists, leaving all kinds of bruises, and only barely leaving her on the edge of consciousness. All the repeated trauma against her head makes it hard for her to stay awake, you see. She's spitroasted without end. Even when they cum once, even when they force their seed down her holes, she can feel that they're still erect. Must be some stasi drugs. They keep going, and so Pham's suffering won't end, not until she completely breaks.

Makes you want to puke, doesn't it?
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>>138071549
No
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>>138071549

It's AOTS.
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>>138071332
My genosse
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>>138071636
STOP
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>>138071527
Going by that image, Ketchup really appears to be a mercy killer.

At least delicious comissar survives, I`m somewhat relieved.
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>>138071636
>you will never be a 17 y/o Marine in Vietnam
>It ain't me starts playing
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>>138071722
>ME GONNA LOVE YOU A LOOOONG TIME
>std ridden whore that took nigger`s
>steals your camera

Fuck that shit, private.
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>>138071636
I didn't need to fap right now anon.
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>>138071412
Europe outside of a few hold out bastions on the Norwegian coasts and Iberian Peninsuala falls by about 1985. Once the Oder Nesse line is breached, the next good defensive line is the Rhine, but to hold it you have to sacrifice Northern Europe basically. The French didn't exactly make a good fortified border this time around.

I think Denmark and Portugal were the last to fall. The Danish probably held the Kiel Canal to the last man.

The Iberians retreated across the Gibraltar when it became clear they couldn't hold.
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>>138071835
>you will never save loli Stella
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>>138071835
And what`s left of 666 members, do they all die in that final MOTHER EVROPA struggle?

I`ve read something about Theo at least being mentioned in TE timeline.
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>>138071920
You could say that.
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>>138071100
>>138071332
https://d2.maxfile.ro/qzsfjzxogd.mp4
>Let's push these invaders back to their hive.
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>>138071982
Well, he preserved himself well, if that`s the right phrase.
Anybody else mentioned?
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Where can I download pictures from the new game? I've searched it but only found some baidu link.
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Why this show is so shity ?
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>>138071920
Most likely along with the West Germans they along with an expeditionary corps of the US army conduct a fighting retreat across Europe, buying time to evacuate as many people as possible. We don't know their fates, but the Fall of Europe was terrible for casualties for the French. They didn't even really prepare for shit hits the fan scenarios, counting on the Germans to hold the line while they ate baguettes.

Theo is potentially a terrorist in the future, but I consider it more likely he along with the 666th were deemed assets too valuable to lose in a pointless defense of the last bits of Europe and evacuated to Great Britain. From there, they fought off the BETA who tried to cross the Channel in the late 80's, and started up with the culling operations.

TL;DR, they probably lived, if they didn't die in 1984. No guarantee there honestly.
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>>138072041
Not so far, no.
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>>138071527
Who would you want to comfort or sexually abuse on their deathbed?
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>>138071992
DEATH TO THE BETA INVADER
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>>138072145
Pham. Screw polandball and the rest.
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>>138072077
at the panda's lair
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>>138072285
Would you be so kind to provide a link? I can`t find anything other than some artbook or two.
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>>138072285
Where? Post the link please
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>>138072348
>>138072356
it can't be this hard to search for schwarzesmarken
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>>138072406
I feel like they don't even know what panda I'm talking about
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All I have stuck in my head is ANATA NO HITOMI GA UTSUSHIDASU MIRAI. That song was made me feel like shit after finishing Alternative. Kasumi still has her memories but why is Âge so deflective of that question?
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>>138072406
Ha, got it. I mistook the game for another artbook.
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>>138065613
I WANT TO RAPE ANNETE
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>tag:out_of_order

Well, shiiiiiiiet.
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This was a lot less gory in the anime. What gives? TE went all out with the gore. It's a ML staple.
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>>138072554
Because of new laws against gore (if you aren't aware of Liden's big hit on the scene, Terra Formars, you're missing out), and the fact they went with a more serious approach. You aren't exactly going to be able to live long enough to give a speech or beg for somebody to kill you if you get ripped in half.
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>>138071867
>Protecting Sweden

Alright, let's examine this - Sweden is the only relatively 'Open' part of the Scandinavian Peninsula, and even then it's got its own lakes and forests. The bottleneck is around Finnemark, where there's mountains and other obstacles to attacks, and that's where the Swedes and Norwegians held the line as soon as Finland was overrun.

Then something you prayed to god wouldn't happen, happens. The Oder-Nesse falls. The Norwegians and the Swedes have to send forces to help the Germans as they try to reestablish a defense line at the Elbe but it's too late by that point, the BETA are going to plow on to the Rhine without stopping. This means the north is slowly falling, because now you're fighting a pincer movement on a grand scale - if the BETA grab the Kiel canal or the Jutland, you're in serious trouble supply wise as Sweden, you NEED to keep that open or you don't get armaments. So the Danish basically do the fucking impossible, even NATO planners didn't expect this against the Warsaw Pact for longer than a day or two - THEY HOLD THE JUTLAND. They dig in and they keep the supplies flowing, but it's too late for Sweden. The Finnemark line is broken, and now you've got to evacuate what you've got now, or lose it all in the future. Norway can hold out in the mountains for a long, LONG time - lot of coastline, cave networks, and other hold out areas they built in case the Russians came knocking. But that's a matter of time too.

By this point, Western Europe is in trouble, with the French being the French and not doing fucking shit until its too late. Thanks De Gaulle. So Sweden and Norway evacuate, same with the Danes, eventually. Denmark can't hold when Malmo allows access to their islands directly, and from there the Jutland can be flanked.

And that's how most of Europe falls in three years - because one fucking line of defense broke, and the French were the French.
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>>138072473
FUTARI NO DEAI NI IMI GA ARU NO NARA
Hits me right in the feels every time.
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>>138071636
how crazy is the ride going to be in the last episodes?
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>>138072554
because they gotta cut precious seconds aside from shying away from gore.
For example in that scene she was still "alive" even after being cut in half, though she only making gurgling noises.
An unnamed sergeant told her, "May we meet again" and delivered the coup de grace.
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>>138072615
>Because of new laws against gore
wat
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Does it make me a bad person that I want to disembowel loli Beato and loli Lise and use their entrails to strangle them as they sob and scream their little evil heads off?
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>>138057901
Best girls by series:

ML: Yuuhi
TE: Yui
SM: Iridisina
EF: Jupiter

Best women:

ML: Munakata + Yuuko
TE: Stella + Latrova
SM: Beatrix
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>>138065613
everyone is such a goddamn in this show cunt save for her
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>>138072852
Yes.
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>>138072871
>Best girls: Iridisina
>Best woman: Beatrix

But Beatrix is not only younger, but way less mature than Iris.
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>>138072852
Yes. They haven't done anything wrong, why punish them in such a terrible way?
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>>138072937
Beatrix is an ugly hag

>>138072871
>SM girl: Irisdina
>SM woman: Beatrix
Kirkes for both.
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>>138072937
Stellafags are morons, anon, ignore them.
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>>138073004
>Stellafags are morons
Says the faggot whose fanbase includes a shitposter who thinks SM isn't part of the ML franchise.
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>>138072927
>>138072963
>>138072852

You don't become evil, you are evil. Lise and Beatrix were just given an outlet for their sadistic urges. Place someone else in that position, like say Annette or Pham, and they would never cross the lines that those two did.

There's nothing wrong with nipping a problem at its buds.
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Is there a way to get a LN raw, or are there only summaries on the net?
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>>138073165
Wait for Yen Press to bring the SM novels to the West along with TE's.
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>tfw you effortpost theorizing how europe fell using picture references and times from the VN and nobody notices
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>>138073165
You can download the first six volumes, you'll have to look for it though. You can also purchase the Ebooks now, if that's your thing.
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>>138073198
Just because nobody replied doesn't mean nobody read it, anon.
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>>138073189
I meant in this decade, anon.
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>>138073241
It'll still be faster then the TE VN translations. Much less the next century for the SM VN's ones as well.
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if they didn't kill lise in the end, i will give this show 4/10
i freaking hate her and i want her to died. seriously, that torture is really horrible. i can't even stand to watch it.
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>>138072449
You guys mean exhentai? I don't have account there
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>>138067175
>Anime Lise is pure evil, just like anime Beato because the director thinks that making any of the stasi characters sympathetic, relatable, or human is doing a disservice to RL people who had to suffer under them.

Is that the reason? Or just that the creators are tone-deaf and are only able to make the most basic of antagonists.
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>>138073237
I know, but I like feedback for shit like this. I live for world building.
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>>138073378
He said something about not wanting to glamorize or make the stasi sympathetic because real people were effected by them in one of his interviews.
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>>138067450
>Das Leben der Anderen

Since day one I've been wondering if anyone saw that film before working in Schwarzesmarken.
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>>138073398
Well, I thought it was neat.
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>>138072682
IMA

ONAJI YUME O
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>>138073300
Where do you think you are? MAL?

>>138073447
And he killed an important part of it in the process. I`m sure you can still show them as total scum without turning everything one-dimensional.
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>>138072664
>>138073198
So this is how you "think" it went down based on pictures and the VN after east germanys defence line got overrun?
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>>138073669
*Pretty neet idea
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>>138058712
ITT: traitor gets what's coming to her
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>>138073198
>using picture references and times from the VN
If you played the Amaterasu translation of Unlimited, the map from that's actually been retconned
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Is there an in-universe reason why tactical nuclear weapons are not deployed against the hives? Or fucking ICBMs?
MOTHER EVROPA is forfeit anyway.
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>>138073611
MITSUMETAI NO
KAGI WO AGERU
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>>138063487
this scene makes me hard I wish there was more
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>>138073669
Basically, and the timeline and other mentions make it more than possible. The TSFiA's A-10 bit mentions how they held the line at Hamburg in '84, so extrapolating from there it makes sense, considering when Denmark and Scandinavia as a whole fell, along with the French getting steamrolled. Seriously, Western Europe is rather easy country to overrun once you get over a few major rivers.

>>138073746
Wait, fuck really?

Links to new ones then. I'm a little autistic about building timelines of shit like this.

>>138073750
We used ICBM's. That's why the America's are safe, because we nuked northern Canada when the hive touched down there. We also use them to nuke incoming hives like giant shaped charges in space.
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>>138073750
>Is there an in-universe reason why tactical nuclear weapons are not deployed against the hives? Or fucking ICBMs?
Delivery system isn't as easy as pressing a button and watching the missiles fly, thanks to lasers.
There's also strong political pressure to not poison the land you're trying to recapture with radioactive fallout.
With that said, when reoccupying the land around the Hive is not a concern, they do use laserjagd+satellite nuke cannon tactics to strike JFK Hive for devastating effect in Unlimited TDA.
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>>138073637
Agreed, making the stasi somewhat likable or humanizing them would've made their evil more poignant.
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>>138073750
They did but once a hive starts making Laser class they'll just shoot it down.
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>>138073805
KOKORO NO TOBIRA
AKETE
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>>138073866
So laser class can effectively target hypersonic maneuvering entry vehicles? Being made of flesh with all its limitations themselves?

I`m not buying it.
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>>138073849
The land is already dead.
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>>138071636
Damn I wish I was in the Stasi
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>>138073931
Laser class are the plot device of muv luv
Learn to cope with it
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>>138073931
Lasers can miss. They just have a lot of them, and they're LASERS.

I think it's fucking retarded too because there's other highly effective weapons you can use and lasers used in atmosphere lose potency quite fast the longer the range, but the author obviously is a retard so...
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>>138073846
>Wait, fuck really?
The All Ages Edition (i.e. most canon version) of maps can be found on the timeline on the wiki.

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline

I don't have the game installed anymore so I can't post pictures but IIRC the original 18+ version of Unlimited's maps had some kind of crazy BETA progression where the entire Eurasia had already fallen in the late 70s and BETA were already flooding into Africa at that time, but mysteriously they hadn't progressed very much further than that by the time the game takes place in 2001.

Anyone who still has the game can post pictures of that?
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>>138074061
Oh right, that's the images I was using to extrapolate.
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>>138073931
>Being made of flesh with all its limitations themselves?
They're von Neumann organic machines directed by a quantum supercomputer and powered by bullshittium so I can believe it.
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>>138073004
Stella is olev. Even among the entire ML fandom I think their probably the least intrusive or worst aspect of the waifufags here.
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>>138074061
This?
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>>138074264
Man, that'd be fucking intense.
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>>138074106
I'll expand this, as we can see in those images, by 1984 the writing was on the wall for Europe. With the Scandinavian Front having been breached, the Danish basically payed with blood money to keep the Kiel Canal open to get the Swedish out. Then Skjaelling fell and they have to pull out. Fucking Danes man, no idea how they managed to pull off the impossible there, with little more time to prepare than the French.

Europe is fucked by 85 and 86, that's two to three years after the Oder Line kicks the bucket. French act like cunts the whole time, no surprise, and everyone runs to Britain and Africa that can.
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>>138072664
>THEY HOLD THE JUTLAND
That image is giving me a serious warboner
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>>138074264
Yeah, that's the one. It bothered me a little at the time.
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>>138074264
>Defeating almost everyone in euro-asia
>invade into the heart of africa
>1 year
That's some insane shit.
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>>138074264
WAIT I thought that France didn't get hit until the 80's
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>>138072664
>>138074298
>Denmark spams Otomatics
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>>138074454
Please read the post chain, retard.
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>>138074444
Not any more insane that lasers reliably killing ICBMs, so whatever.
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>>138074454
They didn't. The map is noncanon now.

See: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/muvluv/images/9/97/0EC3A585.png/revision/latest?cb=20121228175657

This is the map of the situation in 84. BETA are over the Rhine. Thanks De Gaulle, you doomed a continent by denying them french support.
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>>138073731
How can she be a traitor when it was the 666th who had betrayed the state first?
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>>138074522
OH ok thanks
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>>138074522
>De Gaulle
>Alive in 1984
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>>138074523
>posting with Beatrix
>a woman who routinely tried to fuck over her KGB handlers
>a woman who casually states treasonous lines such as "Moscow is a dead city" to piss off Soviets
>a woman who plotted against and killed the effective ruler of the DDR
>a woman who was cutting secret deals with the West
>a woman who hates the DDR and its citizenry more intensely than any other character in SM
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>>138067920
I don't know what they were thinking. This line may have made sense coming out of LN Beato's mouth, but not anime Beato (unless she is being sarcastic or trying to get under Iris's skin)
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>>138074619
>a woman who plotted against and killed the effective ruler of the DDR
Honecker is dead?
wut
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>>138074697
>yfw
>even more Beatrix shit, but some cute and odd bits here and there
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You guys promised me rape. I'm disappointed, and now can only rely on rape doujin, which I hope Japan will delver.
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>>138074719
Schmidt was effectively made dictator of the state when the rebellion started. When she killed him and took his spot, she effectively became the DDR's defacto ruler.
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>>138074264

>those hives
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>>138074736
Goddammit, he was right, and we all laughed at him. The cake and twin peaks joke, and now Jurgen getting brought up by her.

What's next, are we going to find out that she was fucking Theo behind everyone's back?
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>>138074519
Well anon. All we need to do to kill hives is to make ICBM re-entry vehicles strike the ground at velocites high as 10km/sec or more and detonate at either surface level or deep inside the ground.
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How wet do you think she was here?
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>>138074742
I don't it's ever been visually depicted so
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>>138074860
That`s the point. Lob vehicles without any charge at all, one after another. First couple opens up the hive, and the follow-ups cleanse it.
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>>138057989
Did Genosse Lise get purged? Or am I in trouble now because she's a non-person?

>>138058712
I await too...ah, what was not meant to be.

>>138063487
She's with God soon.
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>>138074593
More like he put the policy in place of 'Lol, we're not going to back up NATO because we're too fucking full of ourselves.'

De Gaulle deserves a special place in the deepest circle of hell.
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>>138074894
she peed herself
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>>138074894
Like she emptied her bladder. It was like Niagara falls between her thighs.
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>>138072879
Objectively best girl, best hair colour, best personality, best everything. All other girls are cunts one way or another, and Theodor is a fucking idiot.

Lise, on the other hand, deserves and quick and sudden end. Her suffering at the hand at the Stasi has bought her that much mercy in my book. But her subsequent betrayal has forfeited her life. I say, 9x18mm Makarov through the skull.
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>>138070006
>>138073810
Marky Mark pls go
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>>138075131
De Gaulle literally did nothing wrong
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>>138075485
>Algeria
>Indochina
>His NATO bitchfit

That's only the highlight real of the stuff after WWII.
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>>138075538
>fuck HATO I'll be an independent nuclear power
Force de frappe stronk

Nothing wrong with that
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>>138075538
>what is sovereignity

>>138075226
Not before Theo tells her she`s an impostor for his sister who died long time ago. Make all her shit meaningless, and you don`t even have to kill her.
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>>138075634
>Fuck NATO I'll doom the world to nuclear fire before I will even throw french soldiers against the Russians.

Nothing wrong with having your nukes. What is wrong is basically considering yourself the top dog in the alliance when you aren't, and refusing to get along with others.
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>>138075691
But that was the whole point, do dissuade your enemy from attacking you
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>>138057989
Keep up the great work anon.
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What will you listen to during the inevitable Heinz vs Theodore fight, /a/?
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>>138065856
but anon pic related is already perfect
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>>138075903
The OST playing in the route it happens in, of course.
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>>138067920
ara~ara
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>>138075903
There is no other choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0
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>>138075903
>>138075929
How about Beatrix vs Theodore?
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>>138075959
I actually thought this would be more fitting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jynTNYSKNuk
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>>138075903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiGb31e5ydo
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>>138075980
see
>>138075929
Why ruin the creator's intentions?
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>>138071636
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>>138075980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4Jx76vSTk

<<It's time>>
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>>138072871
Stella is the best everything.
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>>138072473
>>138072682
>>138073611
>>138073805
>>138073904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8R2BkSDQMo
Fucking hell anons, you are bring back to much bitter sweet memories.


but I presonally prefer this ED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwVdfPen2jA
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>>138076106
obligatory
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Hey Katia, I heard you want protection
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>>138059882
That's the shapeliest ass I've ever seen and to see then attached to Katia makes me diamonds.
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>bored waiting for the show
>start reading the English translated light novel
>mfw realize how much better the LN is over the anime
>also realize that it is going to take forever for the rest of LN to get translated as so far it is only 1/3 done

Oh well at least I have a better background of each character.
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>>138076569
I hope Beato is like Momoyo from majikoi

Dominating any men in streets but totaly submissive and derere in sheets.
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>>138076824
That's one way to describe her.
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>>138075903
It's a hard pick between https://youtu.be/Pj5U2J4bov0 or https://youtu.be/p2gzroX4bAU
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>>138076569
How do you feel about the anime characters vs the LN characters?
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>>138076968
>>138075903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0

Only right response.

>>138076824
>Dominating any men in streets but totaly submissive and derere in sheets.

I'm sure she would just rape you in the sheets.
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>>138077035
>What is Jurgen
Besides, I don't think she'd be able to overpower any of the men in SM.
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>>138077006
In the LN they have more personality and are more expressive as you can actually be empathetic with them while the anime characters are more cookie cutter, cardboard cut outs.

>>138077130
>What is Jurgen
>implying he isn't a sub bitch that loves getting pegged by his master
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>>138077035
Not even best MGR song. https://youtu.be/n4esw5BEqfs or https://youtu.be/KfwteoZCvoY I can listen to those and Love Deterrence all day.
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>>138077252
>tfw love deterrence would be a perfect fit for the show and would be a better opening theme rather than that abortion they have right now
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>>138077224
He looks like he's the one taking the lead in a lot of their interactions. He kissed her afterall. She even tries to be domestic around him, cooking food for him or sending him treats while he's away. That's some pretty deredere sub behavior right there.

Granted, anyone else, like say Theo, and she'd be a ball crusher.
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>>138077224
>In the LN they have more personality and are more expressive as you can actually be empathetic with them while the anime characters are more cookie cutter, cardboard cut outs.

Beatrix and Lise are still total cunts, right?
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>>138076533
you, get away from her.
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>>138077370
That is a truly explosive song sung by Nana. I feel bad for Chico having to deal with such an explosive women. White Forces isn't that bad anyway. It's still not as great as Only my Railgun. I want some Jap dev to do a Muv Luv game.
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>>138077035
>I'm sure she would just rape you in the sheets.
That's what we were thought before playing momoyo's route, but the imaginations were shattered after her H-scene.

>Now imagine Beato wearing cat ears.
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>>138076569
isn't just the first volume translated? how is that 1/3? baka-tsuki had only one volume done
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This episode got more grimderp than I excepted. I love it.
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>>138075138
I did not such a thing!
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Do you think if Katia became a nopan aidoru and rallied the people, East Germany would have been saved?
I certainly do.
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>>138073846
>1 Mark

Fucking Ossi ripoff.
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>>138078038
No,they already had the Puhdys for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbQuauLn52c
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>>138077873
I want to bully her with my erect penis.
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>>138078461
I wish Katia wasn't so helpless.
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>>138078461
Yeah well you said the same before and you ended up fucking your sister
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>>138078554
Theo's a siscon, he can't help it.
Luckily for Katia, she's his new little sister.
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>>138070300
would it make sense to torture/rape 666th squadron when they are a vital asset for defending what is left of east germany?
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>>138077873
Katia! Katia!, I heard you wanted a bodyguard
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On the other hand, I want to marry Gretel.
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>>138078679
Yes, because everyone's going full retard.
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>>138077394
>you will never be the person that warms Beato-sans heart

Why live anon?

>>138077443
Haven't gotten there yet senpai.

>>138077537
Oh I have no clue how it works senpai. They only have one volume done. How many volumes are there?
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>>138078685
please no
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>>138078771
>How many volumes are there?
SM has 7 Volumes
SM:Requiem has 2 volumes (and they are vital to get a full picture of the story because Theo is an unreliable narrator)
BiS is still ongoing, but it's already on it's third volume
There's also Tomb of Steel, which stars Kurt and many TSFIA shorts about Beatrix and Iris doing cute stasi/nva things.
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>>138078590
They look like a married couple
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>>138078715
Get in the line
>>138078679
not anymore, the werewolf will take care of that now

th-thanks stasi
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>>138078844
B-but...
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>>138078891
>mfw

So it will take years for all this content to be translated? If it gets translated at all?
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>>138078771
Beato's introduction and speech should've been enough to tip you off that things are a little different.

Lise doesn't get introduced until Volume II or III.

>>138078914
As an Irisfag, it hurts.
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>>138078914
He chose best girl.
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>>138079025
>implying
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>>138079003
Theo looks up to her as a mentor and not a romantic partner my ass. Fuck you KGNE director. Fuck you long, and hard, and fuck you for ruining Beatrix and Lise too.
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Beatrix needs to be raped and then thrown to the wolves. Nothing more than a 2nd rate Esdeath with not half as good character design.
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>>138079053
t. Lise Hohenstein
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>>138079062
>Esdeath with not half as good character design.

>laughing at you
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>>138067775

Lisey Lise?
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>>138079093
Nope, I am not a Lisefag
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>>138058999
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kek
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>>138079113
But you are and you work for the Stasi.
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>>138078461
How can he even say this bullshit when he won't be able to protect her womb from himself?
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>>138079113
I certainly hope you're not a Gretelfag trying to suggest he should NTR Martin.
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>>138079152
That's one thing and this is another.
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>>138079150
fuck off Lise

>>138079156
Anett my friend
also, Martin in the hero that the commissar deserves
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>>138079109
I want to bully Beatrix!
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>>138079206
>Anett
The tsundere tomboy? Please.
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>>138079229
Shit taste detected
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>>138079206
Shit IM, isn't Beatrix angry?
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>>138079259
All right, pal.
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This is Stasi.
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>>138079320
Resentful would be a better word, but yeah.
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>>138079425
Who taught her how to do those things, Ketchup, or Beatrix?
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>>138079425
>Raped by stasi
>Tortured to give out info
>Has to lie and betray her brother
>Torturing former teammates

Why is she so smug?
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>>138079425
you misspelled sex
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>>138079539
Because she's evil.
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>>138079539
>Has to lie and betray her brother
In her mind, she never betrayed him, she was protecting him, from himself and Iris.

Anime is probably going to go with >>138079602 since it already took out a lot of her nuance
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>>138079634
I don't really think they'll remove that, they already alluded to it when she smacked Iris around.
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Captain Irisdina I'm Stasi.
>Captcha Limos
Is it telling me to post Takahashi.
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Why do people come down so hard on Beatrix and Lise, but love Axmann so much?
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>>138079795
Tell me about Lise, why does she wear the ribbons?
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>>138079841
Because his name became a meme.
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>>138074264
The BETA knew better than to touch India.
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Anett is the best girl.
I need more of her.
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>Oniichan!
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>>138079888
Why would you even collect statistics on that?
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>>138074264
If there were that many hives it would have been game over for humanity.

Realistically they couldn't have gone with a map this bleak.
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>>138079940
Oh man, Australia fucking brought their A game on this one.
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So is the anime going to end with Germany falling to the baters?
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>>138080146
No, that'll happen shortly after the epilogue.
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>>138080013
German autism demands this.
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Pham wasn't raped in the LN or VN but in the anime. How much are they planning to change?
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>>138080018
I wonder if they would even have enough G-Bombs to pull off Alternative V at that point.
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>>138080273
That was rape? Sounded like regular torture to me
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>>138080018
It is a lot more realistic for how the Suez canal defense would have gone down, though.
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Was it rape?
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>>138080277
Even if they had enough they still would have fucked the world over worse since they would have had to use more. Alternative V was just as bad for us as it was for the BETA.

By the way, did Alternative V happen in every iteration of the Muv Luv Universe? That would be tragic if it did.
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>>138080411
It happened in all but Alternative.

Also reminder that Trump caused Alternative V
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Who /NVA/ here?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mG3BvkT6YQ
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>>138079841
Because he avoids getting blood on his hands. Every SM heroine has had blood on their hands at some point, either from outright having to kill people or being unable to save them, though the latter only applies to Katia (but maybe we'll get psycho Katia in Martyrs). That, naturally, leads to people liking him more because he doesn't actually do anything bad himself. Plus the thing he does that makes people realize he was a scumbag all along, which is trying to kidnap Katia while Theo's busy fighting Beatrix, doesn't happen until the finale. Hell, maybe he'll shoot Katia in the anime. That would be pretty dramatic and sad.
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>>138071712
>At least delicious comissar survives, I`m somewhat relieved.
I'm pretty sure she's the bottom middle.
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Fuck Commies.
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Who's here currently living in a communist country like me?
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>>138080480
I guess humanity is stuck wandering the stars then in most iterations.

Wait, were all those colony ships nothing more than a PR stunt to make it look like they had made a backup? Because everyone's fucked if that's the case.
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>>138080577
Nobody cares, chink.
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>>138080577
Living in non-communist city of communist country which is going to get fucked here
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>>138080577
>actual commies
We'll bring you freedom soon.
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>>138080583
Yes. Bombing is the main dish. Evacuating is putted there later to please the mass.
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>>138080634
So basically Hong Kong.
>>138080635
They tried once. Things didn't go well as expected for them.
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>>138080583
Yeah they didn't even know if that star system had any habitable planets.
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>>138080634
I bet you miss being a colony.
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>>138080718
Which is where?
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>>138080486
>kidnap Katia
Ketchup really is obsessed with poor Katia.
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>>138076346
After finishing Alternative the Muv-Luv theme just bring tears to my eyes every time.
>and the hope that we'll find our true feelings.
>I won't give up. Let's put our hearts together.
>Embrace eternity.
Truly save in the name of true love.
>>138078914
I hope they have atleast one children before Theo go insane.
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>>138080773
'Nam.
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>>138080773
Vietnam
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>>138080857
We'll just spam tomahawks this time. If you survive it, you've earned your freedom.
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>>138080763
I only miss my family being able to own an apartment
No, seriously, thinking about that shit is stressing as fuck

I want to pilot an A-10
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>>138080899
Are you an expat or ethnically Chinese?
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>>138080828
It's easy to see why.
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>>138080942
local Chinese


There are different kinds of 120mm rounds right? What about 36mm rounds?
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>>138080986
Sadly he doesn't want th protect her.
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>>138080323
NIgga Pham was raped. So was Walter. The screams from Pham are too rhythmic for normal torture and also the skin smacking noise after and before the screams. It was rape.
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I want to tie up Katia and watch her slowly pee herself.
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>>138080986
He was obsessed with Beatrix and Lise beforehand too. Ketchup knows how to pick em, doesn't he?
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>>138080577
Grew in an ex-commie country and things where better back than.
I'm talking about Saxony.
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>>138081033
In Muv Luv all they have for the 36 mm are high velocity armor piercing and tracer rounds. The 120 MM are the Ben and Jerry's as far as variety of flavors.

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_Cannon
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>>138081051
Stop your spreading of lies. Only Walther was raped. Poland had to watch.
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>>138081076
Please don't do that.
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>>138081203
Such that poland is repaid and joins the fight?
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>>138081083
He definitely has some top-tier taste in girls. I wonder if Katia will get successfully kidnapped by him in Lise's route. That'd sure be one way of getting Theo to go along with her quickly.
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>>138081203
I bet polandball got wet watching the werewolves ride Walther like a pony.
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>>138081076
Why are you such a jerk, anon? Why do you insist on watching Katia pee herself instead of drinking her pee?
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>>138081083
He seem to pick girls base on how attractive the guy related to them are.
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>>138081227
Why not? Katia is perfect for that kind of treatment.
>>138081319
I'd rather make her lap it up off the dirty floor.
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>>138081334
And her dad was a total DILF.
No homo.
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>>138081203
Did you not hear the rape anon? Put in headphones you can hear Pham getting raped.
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>>138081346
Objectively awful taste.
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>>138081334
Attractive girls usually hang out with attractive boys.
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>>138081451
Theo is more of a fuccboi than Jurgen. By that logic, would that make Irisdina, Katia, and Lise more attractive that Beatrix?
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>>138081424
Nope, I'm just more of an S than an M.
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>>138080577
Which country?
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>>138081494
Well, Katia and Lise already are, Theo being a better boy than Jurgen just makes it a done deal.

Iris loses enough points for chumming it up with her awful bitch of a mom to give Beatrix a chance at triumphing over her.
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>>138081564
No, you're just mean.
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Tama is my waifu!

Happy Birthday Miki!
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Time for twins.
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>>138081624
When it comes to Katia, sure. She's just too perfect for sexual bullying.
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>>138081678
Tama a shit, fuck of and die
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>>138081685
I think there are better ways of sexually bullying her besides making her pee herself.
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>>138081494
No. It's outright stated in BiS that Beatrix is more attractive than Iris, who in turn is more attractive than Lise. As far as comparisons to Katia, that's rather unfair as Katia hasn't fully matured yet.
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>>138081725
That's just the warm-up.
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>>138081730
>relying on what's told to you
Objectively speaking, Beatrix isn't as attractive as Katia. Not BiS Beato, and certainly not SM Beato.

>Katia hasn't fully matured yet.
Nah, she might start guzzling down milk, but Katia is probably going to look the same in 1990 as she does in 1983, because of anime genetics.
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>>138081804
You present a compelling argument, but I'm afraid we'll have to diverge. I prefer having her pee herself from overstimulation during the act, a sweet seasoning, rather than a wholly separate act.
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>>138081863
I was going for the humiliation aspect mainly.
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>>138081942
I dunno, I think total humiliation goes a bit far, and then it gets boring to me because it happens. Better to taunt her with it and then tease her when she's so relieved she ends up peeing herself anyway. It provides the same amount of humiliation in a lighter, more drawn out package.
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>>138081809
>Objectively speaking, Beatrix isn't as attractive as Katia.
You are objectively wrong.
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>>138082189
No.
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>>138082189
Katiafags, right?
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>>138082423
>beato-san will never be your swimming partner

Why live?
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>>138082517
To repopulate Germany when Uncle Sam retakes it.
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>>138082715
If Beatrix gets penetrated, than what's the point?
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>>138081391
That's not a DILF.
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>>138069848
>adapting
I thought the burden of that lies more on the series composition.
>Cross Ange scriptwriter
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>>138083149
You don't know 'em when you see 'em.
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