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She's ok, right?

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PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit

"It is an army that defends the working class and all workers of the socialist state, that defends the well-being of Katia,
that gives each citizen the opportunity to accomplish something significant.

It is an army of workers and farmers, who protect Katia's accomplishments, who defend Katia's love.

It is an army of the working people that guards the safe spaces of our Katia's home.

It is honorable to serve in this army. There is no cause more just than to defend Katia, for Katia is doing
everything for the benefit of the people, for the happiness of the people, for the interests of the working class and all workers.

That is the meaning of socialism."

-Erich Schmidt on the NVA

By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.

Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik

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I want to mentally unfuck Beato-san!

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>>138035805
Good Luck Anon, you'll need it.

>>138035726
Im still mad he actually gave that slut his virginity. Fuck you shitty director with your anime original.

The only thing he should have gave her was a bullet to the head.

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>>138035770
M-maybe Lise being so rough and callous with her right now was to contrast with her sparing her later.

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>>138035780

What is everyone's myers briggs?

What are the main character's myers briggs?

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>>138035770
Pham, please, please...

;_;

This hurts more than I thought it would. The first thing she does even though she's being waterboarded is to tell Lise it's not too late even now to turn back.

Pham is just too pure for this world.

Pham dying is what will probably break me, make me snap.

>>138035805
We all want too, along with protecting Katia, but those two goals are mutually exclusive.

Also, why is her left eye twitchy/lazy in that pic?

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Poor Theo.

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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI

>>138036067
This is the future he choose

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>>138035805
But I've had dibs on that since the first day...

>>138036004
Mine are somewhere between ENFP and INFP

Maybe this is why I want to save her.

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>>138036051
Nobody at Liden films understands how to animate Beatrix with her suit on. There's just too much complexity there between her hairstyle and all the parts on the suit. They can animate Beato just fine with her BDU on, they can animate others wearing fortified suits decently enough, but Beato has a really complex design and so it becomes a challenge just to make sure she looks recognizable.

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>>138036035
I thought Beatrix getting worse and worse, before Theo gives her one of the most agonizing deaths of all the characters when he shoves a CIWS through her cockpit, into her stomach, and out the other side of her MiG, cutting her in half would be what breaks you.

>>138036067
>PUNISHED THEO
>A reluctant hero denied any lasting happiness

>>>138035629
>implying 4chan is for introverts only
>implying you can't be an extrovert and still NEEt

Besides, the extrovert in MB is more about how and what they perceive, I believe, instead of the classic definition of extrovert. Though I do consider myself a classical extrovert as well.

>>138036182
>complimenting Iris's breasts as she's chained up

I don't know why but I giggled.

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>>138036207
Not so.

>>138036160
>Maybe this is why I want to save her.
I want to save her because someone else needs to help burden that responsibility for her.

>>138036051
Her animation is unfortunately shit.

>>138036198
That's someone else you're thinking of.

Though I don't get hard at the thought of her getting sawed open unlike some others here.

Maybe I'll wanna brutally kill Lise though depending on if, and if so, who kills her and how.

Katia a cute but annette a cuter

>>138036229
>>implying 4chan is for introverts only
Naw I was implying that being an extrovert and hanging out with a bunch of INTJs/introverts must be suffering as these people are so dense and lack social skills.

>>138036311
The director clearly hates Beatrix and favors Katia/Gretel above all the other grils.

>>138036336
You and the Beatofag have a very similiar way of naming pics/posting.

>even motherfucking Schmidt is portrayed nicer than Beatrix

This is true punishment, Beatolads.

>>138036405
That's nothing new. He preferred Mitsuki over Haruka. Also, I don't think he really "gets" Iris from the interview he gave a while ago.

>>138036366
Wrong but I do agree that Annet a cute.

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I thought you faggots said Lise sucked at torturing people.

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>>138036405
>You and the Beatofag have a very similiar way of naming pics/posting.

After a while you can clearly tell the distinct writing style of a poster and are able to follow their posts even if we are on an anonymous image board.

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>>138036035
Always prepare for the worst anon.

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REMOVE STASI

>>138036449
Yeah, in the LN, Schmidt was always putting Beatrix down. He would never make the "big breasted idiot bimbo" his successor. In that scene where she's talking to him, Beatrix was actually nervous because Schmidt was involving himself directly in her plans. He'd rather have someone that was easier to manipulate and groom. Beatrix herself had the stink of Bernhard and Axmann around her, and she taunted him with her sexuality. Which was one of the reasons he tries to kill her.

>>138036605
She does. Even in the anime, she ends up delegating it to others. Her primary job was to monitor and report on the torture.

>>138036336
Theo executes Lise in the LN. Who knows what they will do in the anime though. They will probably change it actually.

>>138036718
>Lise dies fighting him

Honestly, KGNE director will choose the path of most drama, so Zap forcing Theo to execute prisoners is a go.

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

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>>138036386
It's the internet m8, a lot of aspects of human interaction get lost when you can only communicate in written form.

I actually prefer to have a chat IRL with people who are intelligent and reserved instead of loud and boisterous retards. Not that necessarily every introvert is reserved and vice versa.

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What kind of monster would harm this? Unforgivable. 30mm can fuck right off.

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Anime needs more glasses bullying nad girls that can take it, like grettel.


Man, this episode make my desire to protect katie intensifies

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>>138036789
Ready for a last-minute reveal in episode 11 combining a truncated version of BiS with Lise's Requiem?

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>>138036832
Yeah I understand.

>I actually prefer to have a chat IRL with people who are intelligent and reserved instead of loud and boisterous retards. Not that necessarily every introvert is reserved and vice versa.

I find very little people in real manage to out-going and sociable but not " loud and boisterous retards." Or intelligent and well spoken but not socially awkward.

I guess what I am trying to say is that most people can't find a middle group between introverted and extroverted.

Also we keep using the same 20 pictures of Beato-san over and over again lol.

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>>138036949
She is the hero East Germany deserves

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俺は。。。俺は。。。！

>>138036955
The line was mistranslated. What she actually said was something along the lines of 'I'm going to make a "certain person's (or that person's)" dreams a reality.'

She could've been sarcastic, or saying it just to mess with Iris.

But just as likely not.

>>138036898
Pham reminds me of Stella. Leave tank top titty monsters alone.

>>138037102
If you interpret it as a singular 'they' it makes sense, but it was hard to get that context across in English without being awkward.

>>138037102
Likely Jergen.

Didn't some anon translate a LN line where she made a twisted interpretation of Jergen's wish to get people to stop backstabbing each other and fight the BETA together?

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>>138036955
>>138037102
So does Beatrix still have feelings for Jurgen? Is her heart still sworn to him?

>>138037065
God, how cana girl blush so much.

But i hope she remeber that that duyde fucked her sister.

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>>138036949

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>>138037292
>>138036949

This anime also gave me athing for girs in military uniforms

>>138036718
I hope they change her death to either annett hacking her tsf cockpit to pieces or having a tank class rip her out and eat her alive.

She does not deserve a quick death, she deserves a long drawn out death like the rest of her whore comrades.

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カティア、お前は俺が守る

Goddamn, so Axemann and his faction were just blown up offscreen between this episode and the last? What a fucking anticlimatic way to kill off a character.

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>>138037354
>no Polish gf to rape

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>>138037485
Yeah, you could say that.

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>>138036955
>>138037102
I was surprised. This show REALLY should have been two cour at the very least. It's interesting though, how now they're showing much more indication she and Iris have a past. Besides the way Beato talked in e2 or whatever, there really isn't much indication that her and Iris led a very intertwined life.

I suppose they are going for the true hate interpretation of her though, seeing as how she wants to bring about Jurgen's dream, and at the same time, have Iris rot away, only able to watch.

>>138036405
>>138036614
Ara ara, I'm famous? Small world.

Funny you mention that, one of the Kaiserreich posters I know was on /gsg/ for sure.

I'm the one who named that picture of Willy kicking the Commune's door down.

>>138036459
I'm not sure he really "gets" anyone so far.

>>138036311
Well yes, that is our desire. To purify, to protect. But why does that desire spring forth?

Is it our nature?

>>138037485
Axemann is still alive. You could see him in the transport trucks during this episode.

>>138037541
Shh.

>>138037485
>>138037526
I totally didn't even notice the first time watching that that was Axmann. Just thought they were prisoners in a truck.

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>>138035867
I want to kill this fucking cunt.

>>138037598
I want to fuck that fucking cunt.

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>>138037598
I just want her to not have had such a shitty life.

>>138037598
that smug.

How many rapes it takes to get that smug,

>>138037598
Does this still get posted in Yahari threads?

>>138037654
She'll be able to embrace the sweet release of death very soon, don't worry.

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>>138037527
>Well yes, that is our desire. To purify, to protect. But why does that desire spring forth?
>Is it our nature?

To be truly happy as an INFJ you need to get into a relationship with someone who does want your advice and does want you to help them change.

Instead most people will tell you to fuck off as you watch them implode into the distance. Unfortunately being kind and compassionate is seen as something that is weak for a lot of people.

>>138037668
40 Stasi dicks at the same time, probably

>>138037598

>>138037668
Only one way to find out.

>>138036955
He'd probably just stick it in as a post-credits flashback if he really wanted BiS. Just show Beatrix being genuinely happy with Jurgen and Iris will be enough to get the idea across.

>>138037527
>the "Twin Peaks" comment
>the fact she knew about her favorite cake

If Schmidt taunts her later on about her relationship with the Bernhards (which he probably won't because they're all buddy buddy), than you'll have another clue.

And the "true hate" interpretation puts a lot of her actions in focus. She's saving humanity, just like Jurgen wanted, by condemning the miserable sots who made her life hell. Every single one of them, including the kids.

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WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME NANJO.
Fuck I don't want to hate her character because it's Nanjo but seeing her like this hurts so bad.

>>138037669
i make sure it does

>>138037598
i wonder why that pair of soldiers were so scared of her.

>>138037741
I think she looks hilarious. I was actually giggling while watching her.

>>138037776
In the LN, because she was having an emotional breakdown after Pham told her she could still be a good person and got extremely violent. Here, because she's fucking evil.

>>138037741
Don't worry, one day when you get to read the LN/VN you'll get to see the real her and you won't have to

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>>138037711
Fucking hell. How many to get to Beato's level than.

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Is eyepatch engineer okay?

>>138037920
He's getting raped too.

>>138037354
I still don't understand what's going on with Lise in that picture. Did she just come out of a mud wrestling contest? Minstrel show? Tar and feathering?

>>138037945
Are they fucking his eye socket?

>>138037911
One.

Your favorite dick has to die without ever getting the pleasure.

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>>138037668
>>138037741
This is what happens when you try to snatch an onii-chan from a little girl whose only way to hold onto sanity in the hell that was her life was to hold onto the memories and love of onii-chan.

Love really does hurt.

>>138037968
She is covered in shit.

>>138037973
Yes

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>>138037920
He's getting raped by a bunch of hot stasi girls.

Beatrix is such a monster, huh?

>>138037945
Stop spreading lies.

Walther is the only one getting raped. Poland has to watch.

>>138037968
She wants Theo to lick the chocolate off.

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>>138037741
Just try to remember the mecha show where she's the best girl.

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>>138037741
I could say the same thing about Yukarin, really.

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>>138037631
You don't fuck Lise, anon, Lise fucks you. You saw the fear in those soldiers eyes. Those were grown men, trained soldiers, hardened to the brutalities of war and State terror, and yet they were sweating bullets around a teenage girl who was barely 18 years old. They barely managed to maintain their composure when she just gave them a single order. Who knows how many times she's brutalized them for the sake of satiating her own sadistic sexual urges? Sometimes she fucks them at the same time, sometimes she fucks them separately. Doggystyle, missionary, DP, spitroast, and other inventive sexual positions I'm not going to describe here, whatever it is, it doesn't matter, in the end she's always the one taking charge and they're helplessly pleading for their Mistress to show some semblance of mercy to their poor selves.

One can only guess how often she's ridden one of them cowgirl, mocking them for their poor performances while she's slamming her hips against their groins, working their cocks with her trained pussy so well that she can feel them tensing up and getting ready to fill her up with their creamy white seed in less than a minute. Maybe, just maybe, this time she's willing to let them be quick shots, but she likes to add a little bit of fear no matter what... and today, she's into asphyxiation play.

She wraps her hands around the neck of the soldier and tightens her grip just as his hot cum is bubbling to the surface, and he can feel himself absolutely dying. He cries out for her to have mercy, he reaches his arm up to pull them down, but she tightens her grip on his neck -and- cock, milking his shaft mercilessly, not letting up for any reason at all. Now reduced to a mere fucktoy, he lets himself surrender to the head-rending pleasure of having his air cut off, and lets his vision go dangerously cloudy as he cums, filling her body up.

Once she gets up, she forces him to lick the cum out of her and drink down every drop. Tomorrow? Who knows.

>>138038037
Stop bullying Pham.

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>>138037980
>>138037527

I wonder how you'll try to defend the Zapmeister?

>>138037980
I still think is was very naive of her to think she could convert him with just one night of sex.

That said alot about men in the east Germany, or at least the ones she has slept with.

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>>138037598
What's really cool is how Lise doesn't have her ribbons on when she's torturing them and other "bad" things.

It's like she knows she's guilty. It's almost as if she's trying to hide her shame from Theo, and he'll know if she puts the ribbons on. I guess it shows Pham was right in some sense - she is riven by shame and guilt, even if less so in some places, like torturing the older girls.

>>138037911
You just have to deny her the one she wants:

>She was a deeply depressed person growing up under a complete asshole of a father who planned to force/marry her into the Stasi. Her mom probably died too.
>She signs up for a swimming club at her new school to get away from him.
>She's unable to connect to anyone because of her depression/self loathing and is bullied by Iris's clique
>Then Jurgen comes waltzing into her life and they fall in love. She's happy for the first time.
>Iris becomes her best friend after an initial rocky start where they both fight for Jurg's attention.
>Jurg has to go off and fight BATERS, but promises to always be by her side.
>They write letters to one another throughout the war, and when Jurgen returns, she's the first one he sees.
>This continues for years
>She thinks about marrying him
>Fast forward a few years, and she's forced into the stasi
>Has to "train" under Ketchup, a guy who hated her boyfriend and wants to rape her
>Has to do all sorts of horrible shit
>Then Iris turns Jurg in.
>Beato probably ends up having to kill Jurgen personally
>Finds Jurg's last message to her detailing how upset he is at all the backstabbing in the DDR and wishing people would put humanity first for once.
>She decides to put humanity first, in the absolute most destructive way possible.

>>138038110
She really likes her tea.

>>138037980
It hurts just to think about her and most of the other girls in SM.

>>138038112
>and today, she's into asphyxiation play

But that's Beato. Well, at least she knows you want her to do something to your throat with her fingers.

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>>138038200
Yeah, just like Iris. In fact, Iris liked tea so much she collected tea paraphernalia as a hobby. The ironic thing is is that Iris was likely the one who introduced Beatrix to the world of tea.

>>138037470
>Will protect Katia

How can Theo even say that when he won't even be able to protect her womb from himself?

>>138038271
There was definitely a callback to BiS with Beatrix mentioning tea to Iris there. Maybe anime Beatrix is what happens if Iris kills Jurgen instead of her. She becomes more bloodthirsty because she didn't have to deal with the total shame of having to kill the one she loved.

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>>138038110
She's played some pretty good crazy lesbos lately.

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>>138038183
>>138038271
How fucked would SM be if Jurgen was casualty conducted into the Altverse circa March 1983?

>>138038418
He looks like the kind of guy who'd be voiced by Shuuichi Ikeda.

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>>138037703
But I'm I/ENFP...

>So we'll hate him
>Because he's what we deserve, but not the one we need right now

>>138037730
Just wish the director didn't flip flop so much.

It's sad also, her and Iris together could have saved them all, but Jurgen's penultimate wish will not get fulfilled. Germany will unite, but it will not survive, because there was one final rift that could not be healed.

Here's the thing that makes me wonder - all this craziness, this is only ONE rather small section of the world, one ensemble of characters.

Who knows how much craziness happened on other sides of the globe, other countries?

>>138038183
Feels bad man

I can see why she could be a possible CIA recruit/Langley faction though

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So, recap with me, is there a single thing anime Beatrix has done that's the same as LN/VN Beatrix?
I actually can't recall one instance. Everything has been changed in some way or another, from adding anime original scenes to changing the context of a scene (like explicitly ordering Lise to torture the 666th with no reservations about it).

Any one has art of those URSS mechas. They loo so cool.

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>>138037920
Probably being raped by Lead Belly and her crew.

Poor Walther, Sylwia is chained up, her eyes forced open, having to watch Walther getting raped by the Werewolf girls.

Did Beatrix institute a "you must have breasts at least this big to join" policy?

>If Lise had betrayed the Stasi instead of the Squadron she could have kept the Theo dick all to herself
It's actually kind of funny to think about. When she inevitably gets cucked by Katia, she will only have herself to blame.

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>>138038112
>You don't fuck Lise, anon, Lise fucks you.
Hot.

>>138038542
>Just wish the director didn't flip flop so much.
It's not flip flopping. The director, quite simply, has his own vision for Beatrix. If LN/VN Beatrix is the 'man' part of the werewolf, the one who tries to suppress her own urges and be relatively normal, yet a very dangerous foe who could strike out at any time, then anime Beatrix is the wolf, the predator on the prowl, savagely attacking everyone she meets without any notion of mercy.

Besides cake.

Why the fuck didn't she eat the cake?

>>138038542
>But I'm I/ENFP...
You can't be both. I always hated this cancer shit because people take those tests to heart when they some how don't even get the right results.

>>138036035
>Waterboarding
That's not how you waterboard someone. All they did is poor a bucket of water on her.

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>>138038760
>Why the fuck didn't she eat the cake?

Because it's torture, duh. It's Irisdina's favorite, and she's just letting it...sit there. No one eats it. No one takes it away. No one even throws it on the floor, ruining it. Just...sitting there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jW5weeu3kQ

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Am I being meme'd on?

>>138038548
She still gives the order after Farka introduces herself. They're more friendly with one another. Beatrix gives Lise a head pat after saying that what she did must have been hard. She says that Theo and Katia escaping aren't a big deal, they have Iris. She then tries a bit of levity, saying that things should be easier for you now, making things awkward. Then Lise asks Beato for permission to go hunt down Theo. Beato obliges, but orders her to stay back and monitor the interrogation. Beato leaves afterwards and Lise contemplates killing Iris.

In general, the scene is much more about how Lise feels about Theo than anything else.

Lise later thinks about how nice Beatrix is, but states that even Beato won't protect Theo if he continues resisting the Stasi:

>事到如今,已是不能重来。这样下去提奥多尔就会被当作反体制派一员被史塔西抓获,到自己触手不及的地方去。必须要在演变成那样前,做个了结。虽然贝阿特里克斯对自己有恩情,但只有那点绝不让步。为此,即使是要利用贝阿特里克斯和法璐卡也在所不惜。

Funny thing, a lot of people were slamming Lise for trying to arrest Theo, but in her mind, she was actually protecting him. She was certain that Beatrix would have him exonerated and let go.

>>138038989
They can't show that on TV.

>>138039068
It's happened before. I think the real reason is that no one actually has any clue how waterboarding works.

>>138039048
How do you think she'd react once Beatrix didn't exonerate him?

Ya'll some sick motherfuckers...
>>138028783

>>138038934
You cant be both. But you can be so borderline on one that the flip of a coin on a question you can go either way on swings you to one side or the other.

>>138039048
People saying that she was trying to arrest Theo are dumb. Anime onlies have an excuse, sort of (though not after today), but people who know the LN have none whatsoever.

>>138039156
That's just the introvert being a fake extrovert.

>>138037920
I WANT TO RAPE ANNETE

>>138039311
Introvert doesn't mean borderline hikki; introvert just means you get your energy from having quiet time to yourself. You can be a super-social and charismatic person as an introvert, but you might find constantly interacting with other people to be physically draining.

So backerkit ends at tomorrow night at 12 (est) am or tonight at 12?

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>>138039508
>you might find constantly interacting with other people to be physically draining.
This is me senpai. I am good for one or two hours at social event then I need to lay down and pass out.

>>138038542
>But I'm I/ENFP...
Most of 4chan is either INFP, or INTJ. There are some INFJs but we are too busy feeling in the corner.

>>138039508
No shit, but that doesn't mean one can be both.

I was browsing crunchyroll and MAL comments just a while ago. The thing that always gets me is how these people don't want to have a conversation. They just shit out some misinformed/isolated comment, and move on. They don't bother reading the thread or checking back up on it. They say dumb shit that was rebuked just two comments above their own. At least redditors, and even fricken youtubers have something approximating an exchange of ideas going on

>>138039676
Why the fuck are you even conversing with them?

A better question is why are you coming here to tell us this?

>>138039068
>>138039111
I think it's because Japan was condemned before by the use of waterboarding in WW2 but I may be wrong who knows

>>138039615
11:59 PM PST Feb. 29

>>138039721
I'm not conversing with em, but I like to take the particular nasty comments and post them here for giggles.

Sides, it's always funny seeing the anime-onlies say shit like "Axmann is the goodguy stasi" or "Lise never loved Theo".

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>>138039787
>"Axmann is the goodguy stasi"
Top kek they don't really think or say that do they? They do know the stasi were real and were pretty much communist nazis right?

>>138039508
This is a good explanation. Personally speaking, I say both because tests constantly vary between E and I, but NFP always remains the same.

Also, are most of 4chan NFPs? Those are usually quite rare.

>>138039615
Good luck comrade.

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>>138039721
Anon is just doing us a favour by investigating how the enemy thinks.

>>138039787
Most of the anime community is pants on heads retarded.

>>138039936
Tests are tests, they are meant to guide you find your type.

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>>138039936
>Also, are most of 4chan NFPs? Those are usually quite rare.
Traditionally 4chan was all INTJs however in the last few years the majority of users here are NFPs.

>>138039615
I managed to buy in today. I spent the $60 for the trilogy.

>>138039894
>If I had to choose, I would have preferred the redhead guy's half of the Stasi to win.
>He seemed more reasonable, and it doesn't seem that he brainwashed Theodor, unlike the other half of wackos who have that crazy chick and sent Lise...

Ribbons ;_;

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>>138038521
Jurgen is a char clone. Has the looks, dates younger girls, older bro of the main love interest, grows to hate the political system, and the ace of aces for the DDR.

>>138040242
So, when does he show up with a mask to laugh at Beato's methods?

>>138040319
Why would he. Beato's just carrying on his dream.

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>>138039936
I'm actually ITSP-A. Whatever that means I guess I like to improvise and running with it.

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>>138040242

Any request webm, stitches, or transparent?
>>138037968
She's covered in chocolate, it's a Valentine picture. Funny how Theo imagine his sister as a knife murderer though.

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It's time, isn't it?

Please don't die Pham, please...

If she has to go, please at least let this happen.

;___________;

>>138040516
Any Beato-san related is good :^ )

>>138040516
Webm of Lise holding her ribbons vowing to get Theo back?

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>>138040516
Heh, well that explains quite a lot. The only thing I don't get is Sylwia in the pic. Theo would sooner imagine Beatrix before he'd imagine her in one of his sexual fantasies.

>>138040609
>Any Beato-san related is good :^ )
Wut

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Was Pham raped? Like bent over the table and pumped? Those grunts, those screams.

My fetish.

>>138040660
Anything*

>senpai baka desu

>>138040888
Yeah, probably.

>>138040888
Nobody should've been raped in the LN.

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Mmmf.

>>138040392
>you will never have a curvy 2D German beer girl serve you some Oktoberfest brew
Feels bad man.

>>138040989
Except Lise. Isn't it sad, Lise?

>>138041057
>>138040989
I meant to say, nobody was raped in the LN.

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>>138040609
Going to have to be more specific than that, I can't find any webm worthy scene of her other than the TSF penetration.
>>138040643
This?

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https://twitter.com/alia_nao/status/704052903124701184
Vote for who you want as a little sister!

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>>138039964
>Most of the anime community is pants on heads retarded.
Seems to mostly be the Western/American community. Japan/China has it's own idiocy, but interpreting stories and characters doesn't seem to be one of them. Maybe it's a case of the grass is greener, but a lot of the threads over on 2ch, Futaba, and Baidu talked about how fucked up the situation with Lise is, and how sad it was that the stasi turned her into such a monster.

Over in the Western fandom, everybody is going on about how Lise needs to die, painfully. She's more hated than even Beatrix right now (though a lot of people blame her for Lise's conditions). There's a complete lack of empathy and plenty of wild, knee jerk reactions.

Also, these faggots see harem shit in absolutely everything.

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>>138040643
Or this?

>>138037598

Were they raping Pham during this scene or just beating the shit out of her? The grunting and smacking sounds were disturbingly rhythmic. What's the consensus anons?

>>138041538
Katia.

I like Iris the most, but there is that shit she pulled on Jurg at the end, and I wouldn't want her getting in the way of me dicking some other girl, like Beato. Pre-Stasi Lise would be a strong contender though. She seriously went through hell for Theo.

>>138041621
It's Schrodinger's Rape Box. As soon as you peer into the room, the waveform collapses and Pham is dead either way.

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Who has suffered more?

Lisefags, or Beatofags?

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>>138041538
Who are the choices I don't know Jap.

>>138041741
Top to Bottom
Iris
Katia
Lise

>>138041741
>Irisdena
>Katia
>Lise

>>138041741
>I don't know how to use translate

>>138041741
カティア＝Katia
リィズ＝Lise
アイリスディーナ＝Irisdina

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>>138041576
>There's a complete lack of empathy and plenty of wild, knee jerk reactions.

That is all too common on a lot of Western discussion boards theses days. It doesn't matter what the topic may be, whether it is games, anime or movies, people react first and think later, maybe never. People just want their 2 seconds of internet fame for being the first to react.

>>138041822
To be fair, the anime has done a terrible job of portraying Lise as a sympathetic character.

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I am off to bed, sleep well SM community~


>>138041576
100% agree. Maybe because the Chinese/Japanese communities are more mentally developed and older? Or maybe because in Asian society they don't have this special snowflake mentally that is rampant in the West?

I get the impression that when I deal with the Western/American community it is just a bunch of mentally unstable 14-16 year olds and some /cgl/ sluts; then again that is what shows up at anime conventions.

>Over in the Western fandom, everybody is going on about how Lise needs to die, painfully. She's more hated than even Beatrix right now (though a lot of people blame her for Lise's conditions). There's a complete lack of empathy and plenty of wild, knee jerk reactions

Walking a mile in the other person's shoes is a sign of maturity that I think has to be lacking in the western audiences.

>Also, these faggots see harem shit in absolutely everything.

There is literally zero harem shit in this show and I don't know how you could see that. It reminds me of the faggots who think gay shit every time there is a male interaction.

>>138041397
>Going to have to be more specific than that, I can't find any webm worthy scene of her other than the TSF penetration.
I'm just shit posting anon. Keep up the good work.

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>>138041726
It's hard to say. Beatofags have had a character who barely shares any scenes in common with the one they liked, while Lisefags got to see their girl's flaws amplified and the removal of even pretending she cared about Katia, which was a big way of humanizing her by showing she could care about somebody who wasn't her brother or affiliated with the Stasi in any way.

Seeing as how I like Lise more than Beato, I'm going to be self-centered and say Lisefags got it worse.

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>>138041822
Yeah, it's kinda fucked up that I see more empathy on 4chan than any place else. Not just for Lise, but for everybody. Even Beatrix and Ketchup (though I think in Heinze's case, that's more tongue in cheek). I fucking come to 4chan to be unburdened by social mores, yet these faggots sound like our shitposters.

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Annette is so cute!

>>138040947
Yes.

>>138040989
Damn, at least I have my imagination.

>>138041397
>TSF penetration.
Someone already made it >>138036198

>>138041929
>zero harem in this show
Anon, please. It's literally all about harem antics, Just because it's not cutesy about the conflicts like, say, Bahamut, doesn't mean it doesn't count. To me, anyway.

>>138042037
She'll become stronger from this, she's getting new PTSD and they'll be good fuel for her next rampage.
>>138042055
I know, that's why I didn't make one.

>>138040660
Katia is a fucking giant

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>>138041952
Lise was torturing Pham in the LN over Katia's true identity. I still like to think she cared for Katia though.

They also toned down how much Lise and Beato actually like each other, probably to make the stasi look more evil as an organization (director did say he was making some changes to the stasi to make them more respectful to those who'd suffered their evils).

Imouto alliance though, right

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>>138037527
This?
Just a /gsg/ lurker actually.
t. Napoopan

>>138042174
Except for Beatrix, it's not really to scale with the other side of picture.

>>138041726
Beatofags. Even Schmidt and Axmann get more sympathy points doled out to them than she does.

>>138041929
>>138041576
>Don't worry guys.... theo will kill lise eventually because she took iris from him......lol *evil smirk*

Yeah, it's sad that our shitposts are of a higher quality than that which is found on MAL.

>>138042197
Maybe the imouto alliance will be reborn in SM Extra.

>>138042197
Anon, I did qualify it as "even pretending she cared". She didn't really give off a good impression of that in the anime. I know, time constraints, and unlike certain things (like making Theo more protagonist-like and thus outright removing things like his consideration of shooting Katia) they did make an effort to show it in a few scenes, I just think it was a little bit too little.

Personally I'm kinda excited, in a scared way, for how Lise will act in Katia's route. She's already angry enough at Iris, I imagine she'll be downright demonic with Katia, to better contrast how nice she was with her before.

>>138042357
There's that yuribait CG of her and Katia close together in swimsuits, I'm sure it'll be fine there.

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I just want to hug her. is that so bad :(?

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>>138042465
Moemissar a best.

>>138042448
>how Lise will act in Katia's route.
Maybe thing will turn out better than expected? Lise might approve of Katia and be fine of losing to her since she like Katia enough or something like that.

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>>138042448
>There's that yuribait CG of her and Katia close together in swimsuits, I'm sure it'll be fine there.
Will we also get some yuribait of Beato doing her thing to Iris and Lise?

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How would you feel if, at the end, Katia replaces Iris in the finale?

I don't actually think it'll happen, but you have to admit, it'd be pretty dramatic and sad.

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>>138042670
I'm confused, are we in the Iris route or the Katia route now? I'm happy with both girls, either way.

>>138042723
Axman route.

>>138042623
>Beato doing her thing to Iris
Probably.
>Lise
God, I hope not. It'd be hard to justify her getting that close to Beatrix in Extra anyway.

>>138042816
>God, I hope not. It'd be hard to justify her getting that close to Beatrix in Extra anyway.
Beatrix-senpai
Lise-kohai

>>138042723
Theo start with Iris route and joining the resistance, then accept Lise route only to abandon it almost instantly after getting the H-scene, then he just go to Commissar route for date event, he then try to go back to Lise route but timelock event happen and now he's out of everyone's route - then the game just push him into the default Katia route.

>>138038183
Beatrix...Beatrix had a hard life.

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/character10.html

For all the newfags...

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>>138042723
The Iris route flags got crushed, the director outright said he wanted to minimize Iris' romance and leave her as more of a figure Theo and Kaita could look up to, and Katia's the girl who's received the most focus overall. I think it's a safe bet to say we're in the Katia route.

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>>138042930
Good stuff man

>>138042008
>I fucking come to 4chan to be unburdened by social mores, yet these faggots sound like our shitposters
You are giving them to much credit. At least our shit posters try to make an effort.

>>138042623
Muh dick

I wish we could see the full pic of pham in the top left.

>>138042855
Man, I deleted the part of my post where I went on another bitching spree about how much I hate lesbian kouhai archetypes and how that really puts me off of Lise and you had to bring it up again anyway. Please, no, let Beatrix just be in the shadows protecting everyone with Jurgen from Axmann.

We need an Extra crossover between TE, Altered Fable, SM, Haiburu and Chronicles.

>>138042969
Damn. Any chances of an Iris route OVA, then?

>>138042232
Yes, that.

And no, not Poopan. But supposedly, I heard he still has plans to become the world dictator.

Also totally a faggot now, not in denial. Supposedly.

>>138042930
I thought pham was the only one who didn't run off if you touched her sensitive spots?

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>>138043232
We really do. Haiburu's cast need to expand aswell, I need to see the rest of the BETA girls.

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>>138043016
Beato is kinda touchey feely in the LNs with Lise and it'd be cute to see it carry over to Extra.

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>>138041726
I feel so bad for both, to be honest.

>>138043259
Doubtful.

>>138043330
It'd be fucking disgusting, you mean, and I would cheer its removal as a major step away.

>>138043393
Why. Why is it so much worse than regular semi-yuri like >>138037527 ?

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>>138042930
Did STALGER translate Poland-balls?
I saw everyone else's but Seaweed escapes me

anicobin*ldblog* jp
confirms anime original end
theo x katia
Katia - anime - main heroine

>>138043460
I just really hate it because it's fucking horrible and obnoxious and it's almost always bad. Plus it'd just be kind of disgusting in SM extra because Beato would already have Jurgen as her man, and then she goes and picks on another harem MC's girl.

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What a hottie. What's her name, lads?

>>138044026
Forget her, look at that hunk of a man to the right.

>>138044026
That's Suzy Zap. Ridiculous name, but she apparently chose a more Western sounding one to protest the government (like many Ossie girls did in RL). She's not very well liked by the LNFags.

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>>138035726
For those who care, figured out what class the Karl Marx was. She's an H-39 class battleship, two hulls were laid down before the start of WWII in real life but scrapped but I'm assuming in the ML universe they were both completed. The H-39 had the twin funnels, searchlights, and gire directors in the same spots we see on the kind of crude exterior shots of the Marx.
She could've survived the war, been given to the Soviets, and then given to East Germany. The H-39 wasn't gigantic either, only 50 feet longer than the Bismarck so a Montana would still be larger than her.
Don't know why this bugged me so much. She definitely is a battleship, the huge twin stacks are a giveaway.

>>138044104
>She's not very well liked by the LNFags.
You mean lise fags

>>138043795
For real?

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>>138037102
>>138036955
So are they actually going to try to make her somewhat sympathetic now after all the anime original shit she's done already? She didn't even hit Iris, like she does in the LN.

>>138044161
That look pretty nice, I wonder what it would look like with modern Muv-Luv upgrade, like anti-laser coating and such.

>>138044281
Are you kidding? That cake taunt hurt Iris more than any physical blow could ever hope to.

>>138044211
No, she's not liked by anyone:

>offers no mercy
>shoots and tortures prisoners
>shoots and tortures random civies for being stasi sympathizers
>forces Theo to execute Lise as a test of loyalty after torturing her
>one of the big reasons Beatrix's calls for cease fire fell through when the BETA attacked Berlin
>fanatical retard
>tries to usurp Heim
>accuses Gretel of being a stasi loyalist when Gretel calls her out, ironically chasing her into Axmann's hands and leading to that whole sticky situation

The LNFags were bitching about her all the way back in November over on /m/

Question: If the japanese love german so much, why can't they just hire a random german person who tells them the correct words they wanna use?

>>138044211
No I don't like her one bit

>>138044390
But they did.

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>>138044390
They did, pic related
And if you're gonna ask about why the title makes no sense there's an in universe explanation for it.

>>138044416
>>138044454

Thanks. Randomly stumbled on this anime and because i don't know shit the title brought up some confusion I have way too often when it comes to the use of pseudo-german words in anime and manga. Will read into it now.

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>>138044355
>>138044211
>>138044104
Earliest mention of her I could find over on /m/. It's rather uprising to see how many of them turned out right, especially about character names like Schmidt and Suzy. Guess they weren't just bullshitting us.

>>138044553
Just link the thread next time, brah:

https://desustorage.org/m/thread/13672292/#13676442

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>>138035770
They werent raping her here were they?

>>138044531
Well you won't find the explanation in the anime
So I'll just tell you now;
Some Russian general named the squad "Schwarzesmarken" and since he's a general from the USSR no-one would even dare correct him, lest they want an all-expense paid tuition to the University of Siberia for a degree in Geology & Manufacturing.

>>138044716
Of course they were.

>>138044716
LN reader said they weren't, but then again the anime has been adding more drama so they might have. In the end, we'll never know.

Were Axman and his squad wiped out off-screen or something, or are they saving him for next episode?

>>138044863
Saving him. He still has to shit up everyone's happiness by ensuring the NVA and Moscow Faction don't compromise.

>>138044863
You can see him in disguise hiding in a truck trying to pass through Stasi checkpoint, they'll probably be back later.

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>>138044315
What if the cake is Beato's favorite too? Iris and Beatrix like many of the same things. It would have been pure anguish for her too.

>>138040242

Jurgen is a bishounen with one Jesus Christ’s plot armor. generic

>>138044745
>>138044772

Why did they have to do it? Pham was the nicest one... my eyes were watering

And why is Lise such a peice of shit? At least tell me she dies in the end

>>138040319
Wouldn't that be cool, a masked Jurgen resurface in Eurofront as the leader of the GDR military remnants.

>>138040578
Pham the best breasts

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I want to protect that scowl

>>138045154
She gets brained by theo in the ln, but myself and other anons are hoping for a more drawed out death for her in the anime.

>>138045124
Haha, he dies though. At least Theo has that over him.

And he's extremely strange. Even he says he's a weirdo. Before he met Beato, he'd sneak into the woman's swim club to oggle girls, not to mention he's always pranking Iris (and later, Beatrix).

>>138045178
How would he react to Theo executing his waifu?

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My dick.

>>138045234
Well im with you too then.

>>138045281
My heart ;_;

Lise will burn for this

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>>138045234
Beatrix is the only one getting a long, painful death. Everyone else dies instantaneously (except for Iris, but she was surrounded by loved ones when she passed).

>>138045309
Id say Theo should rape her and then kill her, but she'd probably like it

I guess slow dismemberment would be how id want him to do it

>>138045442
t. Genossin Suzy

>>138045382
What if beatrix and lise swapped deaths in the anime?

Lise gets penetrated in battle and beatrix gets captured and executed, but not before getting tortured and raped.

>>138044731
It's even worse now since most of the University of Siberia is run by the BETA....

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>>138045529
I'd flip the fuck out.

LNfags, out of all the characters, only Lise and Walt were the only ones raped throughout the whole series?

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>>138045619

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>>138045643

>>138045637
Don't forget Otto and Holzer either,

>>138044295
Once you drop the sea planes there's plenty of room for SSMs between the stacks. Also she'd probably get the elevated bow that most ML BBs have for better sea keeping/armor. She's not the heaviest hitter though, only 15" guns (maybe 16").

>>138045678
I want to rip her breasts off while she crosses her arms like that.

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>>138045742
And I'd like to rip your balls off.

>>138045678
>Otto and Holzer
Who?

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This episode really made me want to have Beischlaf with both Lise and Beatrix. God damn it, dick, they crazy. Katia/Ursula is still the most vanilla and protection worthy.

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>>138045827
Otto Strauss if the old mechanic dude.

Holzer Hannibal is the bearded dude the died back in episode 02 (and who Iris flash-backed too).

>>138045828
>most vanilla and protection worthy.
>Not BiS Beato

>>138045827
Two old guys, one was the engineer with the eyepatch, the other was a pilot i think

>>138045870
I can't help it, my Fortpflanzungsorgan prefers twisted Beatrix and demands violent things with Lise. Also, Ursula's ponytail is better and with that design Beatrix just has to be S.
And up to this episode I had actually managed to keep clean of sexualizing the Markens.

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>>138044161
>Montana

Still can't believe they would actually build that steaming pile.

>>138045951
How do you feel knowing that Theo is going to kill both of them. First by putting a bullet into Lise's pretty little head, than by ramming himself through Beatrix's goddess body ala: >>138036198

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So when do the Russians come in and save the day?

>>138046080
I don't care about both of them, Lise is just tempting because she's so broken and the desire to be Beatrixed by Beatrix Trixes is also just dick before mind. Katia is love, Ursula is life.
I want to be rammed by Beatrix, doujins where.

>>138046080
Looks pretty tame in the webm.

Though that maybe because we don't see or hear the pilot getting penetrated.

>>138046196
Too busy fighting BETA in Siberia.

>>138046221
Do you think they'll show Beatrix during or after the penetrations, even if it's just a shot of her face?

>>138046063
I blame World of Warships for its inclusion.

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>>138040578
>>138045213

>Theo just sobs without end, repeatedly saying "I'm sorry" into her breasts, tears and saliva leaking into the blood on her tank top
>Pham merely comforts and hushes him, saying he did nothing wrong as she pushes him tighter into her phams.

Why must this avatar of God die?

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>Ursula
What an uncute name.

>>138046661
Ossi name, literally.

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>>138046270
Maybe, they did show polandball1's penetration.

But who knows, they might go full QUALITY and just make her tsf explode instead.

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I want to date her.

That hairstyle, I always pick it in my video games.

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>>138044161
Seems you're right, H-39 had twin gun turrets instead of the more usual now three gun arrangement. Nice. Kinda wonder though how the GDR is even maintaining a ship like that though, or how it wasn't appropriated by the Soviets.

I wonder that FRG has.

>>138044553
>>138044597
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED

>>138044970
It is likely Beato's too. But Beato has to make Irisdina suffer for what she did to her, what she did to Jurgen, and ultimately what she did to herself.

Beato is a living reminder of Irisdina's guilt.

>>138045154
The good are destined to die my friend.

>>138040319
He wouldn't laugh. He would, tears in his eyes, only ask one question. Why.

>>138045264
Put the guilt on himself, and agonize over history repeating. Despite being quite different, they share a sort of divergence when it comes to their suffering, and being victims of fate.

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Oh gott, why. She's so exploitable for so many things and scenarios now.

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>>138046196
Soviets aren't saving shit.

They're in fact largely to blame for this shitstorm.

This show makes me want to be east german, feels really weird as a Wessi.

>>138046902
I do, too for male characters

>>138047136
Don't blame us, blame the Chinese.

>>138046196
Like in WW2, when 10 million russians fell to 500.000 germans and they only won because the US and Russia together created the worlds largest most dense defense line in world history with US resources?

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>>138047299
You participated in Chicom greed too, Stanislav.

And made this whole clusterfuck that is East Germany in the first place.

All the blame of SM is yours.

>>138042670
>>138042969
The reigning, defending, undisputed, Theobowl Champion of the World

>>138047136
>>138047604
>you will never save loli Stella

>>138035770
It hurts so much, please don't let Pham die.
;_; This is so wrong

>>138035867
Lise is really strong, can pull Theodore with one hand, smash Pham with another, and instilling terror to her subordinates.

>>138035867
>out of my way Vietnam fucking shits

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>>138047773
Face it, there is nothing, NOTHING we can do to save her. Her fate rests on a director who doesn't understand the characters at all.

But take heart, my friend. She will die with her soul pure, her heart loving till the very end. >>138040578

She will be so pure, that even the gods who devour souls will not be able to touch her.

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Nice. Just how I like my foreplay.

>>138047972
>She will be so pure
Not anymore

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>>138048032
She doesn't get raped. That's someone being repeatedly beat up. Unless we get proof I guess that the anime is going it's own way on this.

>>138048119
I desire Yui

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Yui, Cryska and Inia are my waifus.

>>138048316
>multiple waifus

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>>138040660
Revised anti-stasi pure version.

>>138038716
What cutie is Annnet going to cut in half?

>>138048680
Farka, can't tell which one she is though because of that QUALITY.

>>138048119
idk man the repeated, rhythmic pounding sounded very much like rape

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>>138048774
That's a switch/strap of leather hitting human skin. Listen closely. That's not the thumping of flesh together. You also hear it coming from Walther.

Unless you wanna believe Walther is getting raped in front of Sylwia or something.

>>138048932
>Walther is getting raped in front of Sylwia
>"Ohohoho this feels so much better, why did I settle for broken goods?"
>"Please go ahead, I can take Kashgar after this."
>"Where did Beatrix hide all of you? to think I was stuck with a loony plumber."

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>>138049036
>Sylwia Hater is back to his old tricks

Why do you do this?

>>138049086
Go away Poland.

>>138049086
>liking sylwia
Literally the worst 666 member, she's borderline next to lise and rebel commander cunt for worst girl.