>Sunrise has to recycle Unicorn again because IBO is bombing hard
/a/ blown the fuck out
let's do some math
seeing as how the first 6 OVAs are and hour long each and the last episode was an hour and a half
That gives us 7and a half hours of runtime or 450 minutes the average anime episode is 24 minutes, but I'll take off 3 minutes since OPs and EDs are about 1.5 minutes long
this means each episode will use around 21 minutes of footage from the OVAs
450/21 = 21.42857 mins, but this can be rounded down to 21 for our purposes and because of possible transitional endings
Now we all know that anime usually only run for either 12 episodes or 24, but as we have seen Unicorn only has room for 21 episodes max
this means Sunrise is either going to have to do some skillful re-cutting or the could try taking on Unicorn's EX episode (explains what the Universal century is for those who haven't watched gundam) which is another 25 minutes long.
Either way they might still need to add on extra animation and maybe they could use this to add certain subplots and character developments dropped from the OVA's I.E.( Loni's character,Micott's drug addiciton,the ending showing the future)
Anyway here's a list of some stuff dropped from the OVA and script changes
They did that 3 years ago
>IBO is bombing hard
No it isn't they got teenagers to watch it and that's what bandai wanted.
>IBO haters in a nutshell
I love your tears, they're delicious. Give me more.
>00P will never get adapted
There are 14 TV Gundam series ignoring spin-offs. Other than SEED/Destiny and 00: First, Zeta, ZZ, and Wing sold extremely well. That makes G-Reco and IBO below average for Gundam.
>Micott's drug addiction
Say what now?
My favorite thing about Gundam shitposting is that IBO and G-Reco are selling more or less the same but according to G-Rectards IBO is a failure and G-Reco a success and according to IBOfags it's the opposite.
Why would anyone come onto this battlefield without a reason to fight?!
>Age 1/2 Gen was good
The only good part of wage was the loli before she died
I'm pretty indifferent about this.
On one hand, why not?
On the other hand, for what purpose?
Are they going to add anything to it? Force Sawano into making another re: Re: RE: album? Give Riddhe a good end? Phenex finally gets screen time?
Greco is flawless. Everyday when I get up I thank God for letting me live at a time where I can experience the greatest creation in human history. I am forever grateful to have witnessed the birth of something that will only truly be understood generations from now, like a modern Beethoven.
Greco is a masterpiece of subtelty and intricacy. Greco is a masterpiece of colorfulness and lightheartedness. These do not contradict each other because Greco is flawless.
Greco does not have a single flaw, because it is Greco and Greco is flawless. It is also a masterpiece.
>IBO was doing so fucking poorly that Sunrise announced this 5 episodes before it ended
Well, if they add more scenes like this, then I'd be pretty okay with rehash
First volume has a run time of 24 minutes. Go ahead and compare the price with any other volumes with the same amount of run time and you'd see the price would be the same g-rektard.
I can stomach the animation and am fine with slower paced series. What gets me is the inconsistencies. This series has a bit of an issue where they love to tell us things and then either fail to show it or show us something contradictory.
Like how nobody in the Worker union had seen kudelia before or could recognize her until one did because he saw her on tv (and even the news crew didn't know her). Or how in the first episode it's mentioned that ahab interference makes communication between planets very difficult yet later show live phone calls between them to not be an issue.
The whole series feels like it could have done with another round of editing.
>We fucking don't care about sales and stuff here.
>All these stalker and sale chart threads every week
I think IBO is decent, but trying to refuse reality like that makes you sound like a baby
YHere's the difference, /m/ sucks and when they hate something, they want to use sales to prove their point, which is retarded.
>IBO sold less than the other Gundam shit so I am right.
Fuck off /m/.
Hory shet, that post is such a cringefest
Kindly kill yourself, fuccboi
Nips love Unicorn, especially
older dude with wife and kids
I recently started watching SEED, and the HD remaster looks really good, good enough to almost get rid of its age altogether
Is there anything that's worse, or that I'm missing by watching the remaster?
Also please tell me if seed turns to shit later, I really don't want to watch season 1 only to get dissapointed and not watch 2
True that some from /a/ do this for some shows, shitposters will never exist but it's always like that with /m/. Most of the time that /a/nons are not taken seriously too, unlike on /m/.
I rather watch from the sidelines. G-Reco vs IBO forced shitposting isn't fun to engage in but fun to watch as people just keep replying to the most outlandish shit.
It's Poe's Law in action.
>implying last episode won't end with a declaration of war between Earth Sphere and Mars
>implying orphans won't get drafted into it
>implying Chocolate Man won't become #1 Gjallarhorn and S2 Big Bad
>I don't know how anyone older than 13 can watch tokushit.
I dont know, I caught some Tokushit during
/m/'s holiday stream last yearand it was pretty funny due to pure absurdity.
One of them featured a clan of Santa's who were infiltrated by an alien that was putting giant centipedes in presents. Little Santa, Santa Clause's son asks the rangers to help beat this football throwing centipede alien and save christmas.
Also Santa Castle had fire juggling Santas and a live band of Santas. Shit was wild.
IBO hate is a meme which G-reco fags try to push as truth.
G-Reco hate is truth which G-reco fags try to push as a meme
Oh wow somebody that actually read the charts instead of just listening to shitposters agenda. The area it actually lost the most viewers in was Male 2 which I believe is the 20-30 male demographic but don't quote me on that. Those are likely to be all the male otaku watching moe shows if that is indeed the case.
Sunrise slowed down on TV series tremendously after 2013. We did get Cross Ange in 2014 but other than that it's just been a few Gundam series, a Love Live season and some continuing stuff like Gintama and Aikatsu. It's like they pretty much just dropped off the planet. They've been doing some Gundam, Code Geass and Yamato OVA's and movies and they co-produced that Miss Hokusai movie with I.G but really that's about it. It's incredibly weird because they used to do a good show or two a season or at least every other.
Gundamfags seem to just be really eager to argue about their toy commercials. Some of the most obvious bait I've seen in the past two years have come from these threads. I'm talking shit that looks like it's been copied directly from a YouTube comment made by a overzealous 13 year old.
That's because G-Reco is no longer the current airing series so it has to be moderately championed or portrayed as a success and now that IBO is the currently airing one it's worse than Hitler and the biggest flop in the history of the industry. Welcome to the Gundam cycle of bitching and utter stupidity.
Gundam has been getting utterly shitpost to death since 00. The only one that isn't apparently the absolute worst thing humanity could possibly create was Build Fights season one.
In before "but but" or "found the retard"
The sole purpose of IBO discussion on /m/ is so that a bunch of autistic manchildren can pat each other on the back over how terrible they think it is. They bond over the circlejerk, seems like they really need it.
Well, that's about it. You shouldn't take them seriously.
/m/ is the board where people unironically make hate threads because any singular thread that isnt 100% shitting on a show is deemed a circlejerk but the hate thread isn't for some reason.
/a/ isn't much different but its a faster moving board so at least that kind of cancer gets out of sight quickly.
>The only one that isn't apparently the absolute worst thing humanity could possibly create was Build Fights season one.
And even that was shitposted in the beginning and had a dedicated shitposter throughout.
There was also some shitposting and drama over it between the gunpla threads on /toy/ and /m/.
You're better off watching wuxia movies made by hongkong or tv series by the chinks. They're outlandish and absurd while actually having better production values and better fights than the typical toku.
I blame /m/ for falling for it everytime. How do people that stupid keep falling for the exact same bait for more than a year? I do call it unironic because admist all this shitposting there are idiots there honestly trying to argue against it. Dozens of clearly sincere posts within these massive blocks of obvious forumsliding and low quality bait.
At this point I think Janitors/Mods just leave /m/ up to their own devices since they're too stupid do stop replying to it.
>I blame /m/ for falling for it everytime. How do people that stupid keep falling for the exact same bait for more than a year?
They've been replying to and giving attention to that one tripfag for a year now and he's a known spammer, samefagger, and bait poster. I mean seriously it's been like a year now and they still respond seriously to him.
I refuse to believe you're not pulling my leg here.
The politics? What politics? The politics in this show are borderline non-existent. I do have to admit Gjallarhorn giving the revolutionaries defective equipment was a nice move, however.
The characters range from inoffensively bland to outright horrible. The only characters I actually care about at this point are Gaelio and Atra. Kudelia is probably the single worst main character I've ever seen in my life, I'm trying to think of a main character I would dislike as much and I'm drawing all blanks. She's completely ineffectual, mopes around harder than GX Hibiki yet everyone fellates her nonexistent skill harder than they fellated Ainz in Overlord, which was horrible enough already.
The fights are actually not that bad when they do happen.
The main problem is that you could cut out half the episodes from the story without any damage to it. The Brewers arc? Utterly pointless. What did we get out of it? Akihito accepting Tekkadan? The Dort arc was hideously written. Kudelia is an idol of the revolution yet nobody knows how she looks? Savarin was the only good part of the Dort arc, since he added some long-overdue grey morality after the Brewers arc went full #000000 and #FFFFFF.
I don't even like G-Reco that much for fuck's sake.
If IBO didn't have the gundam name attached, it would've most likely had a following of 50 people/thread, bombed and be forgotten by most while it was airing.
I have a feeling the fact the writing is a goddamn lullaby is a result of Banrise execs looking at AGE and G-Reco's reception and forcing the writers to play it retardedly safe. Where is Okada's classic melodrama? Last ep, due to being actually written by her, had some impact.
>I have a feeling the fact the writing is a goddamn lullaby is a result of Banrise execs looking at AGE and G-Reco's reception and forcing the writers to play it retardedly safe.
I personally feel this way too but I watched the IBO reveal press conference and they literally called GReco and GBFT very successful. Despite all the critique both of them got their gunpla lines have been rumored to do really well.
Though Banrise obviousy has more faith in IBO given just how much theyre pushing it.
>both of them got their gunpla lines have been rumored to do really well.
And yet we still have neither Recten nor Hecate nor Wuxia.
>anything I don't agree with is a meme
>no more wuxia in gundam
pls bring back Imagawa again Sunrise pls
>And yet we still have neither Recten nor Hecate nor Wuxia.
Those lines got shitcanned so you can have more Graze. Don't you love Graze varients? We're up to about 4 or 5 now in a single show.
>If IBO didn't have the gundam name attached, it would've most likely had a following of 50 people/thread
This is the story of every mecha besides Gundam and Cross Ange for a while now.
>thinking hate threads are a bad thing
Are you not familiar with the practice of anti threads on 2ch? They serve to condense discussion and prevent /a/-style CODEGEASSCODEGEASSCODEGEASS /a/utist shit from cluttering up the board.
Not the guy you're talking to, but the 4th OVA changed Loni from a sympathetic character who has a lot of interaction with Banagher to a braindead jihadist with maybe 3 lines of dialogue. Who needs to properly introduce a character when you can focus on the Byarlant and sell more model kits, amirite?
I hope they don't
kill off Maridain this one, because she's best onee-san.
>Having a dedicated circlejerk is a good thing because nips do it.
Dedicated hate threads have always been equal parts stupid and pointless. You can keep your shit to one thread and they do nothing to stop meming fucktards from cluttering the board. There are no examples of this ever working with any show of Code Geass' level because /a/ has been endlessly chasing after Geass Sundays since that show ended.
They're just as cancerous as any general because people do nothing but circlejerk over how different they are from the other thread because they dont like the show. You willfully stifle discussion then whine about not being able to discuss the show because 'the other' exists and people there have different opinions.
So yeah, you read the novels. Because those are literally the only people complain about Unicorn's pacing, so I kind of get the impression that it's more a case of "muh faithfulness to the source!" than an actual issue with the directing.
Episode 4 was without a doubt the worst though.
>they do nothing to stop meming fucktards from cluttering the board
So you think that places like /b/, /pol/, /mlp/, etc do not serve their effective purpose as containment? Do you think there would be no measurable decline in the quality of all other boards if the aforementioned boards were eliminated?
>Implying /a/ has ever pulled off anything to the regard of a decent anti-thread
The most /a/ can do is say that everything is shit then bitch that not everyone is agreeing with them in the other thread.
>Tomino is going around yelling "die!" at animators in the middle of the night when he doesn't think they're doing a good enough job
>Fukui: Tomino kicked him after he read the Turn A novelisation (that Fukui wrote). It was apparently a real, proper kick.
>Fukui: "So, is robot anime dead?"
>Ogata: "If it were than Sunrise would be done for. Good thing we have Lovelive now!"
>Micott's drug addiction
What's the deal with this? I know that one of the scenes they left out of the OVAs was Banager attending a normalfag party with booze, drugs, and sex and him feeling repulsed by all of it and freaking out.
>didn't sunrinse hate lolis? Maybe the don't want to get yet another kind of perverts into their gundam fanbase
They already got fujoshits onboard so they might as well not half-ass it and get the otaku
Did this party take place on the ship? Hearing stuff like this from the novels really makes me shake my head at the author. I can't remember a Tomino hero who didn't know how to have fun at a party or was a complete party pooper.
/mlp/ is a singular containment board but /pol/ was made in backlash to getting /new/ axed and is a board under a catch-all topic with various kinds of discussion going on, not threads made to serve as differently toned hugbox to another perceived hugbox. /b/ has been around forever and its content can be almost anything and regularly spills over.
So no, I don't think those boards aren't serving their purpose. However having browsed this place for a number of years I will openly say that making threads simply for people who have dissenting opinions on anime is silly and implies a much bigger problem with the userbase, their ability to discuss the topic and their tolerance for dissenting opinions.
It's green apples and red apples to oranges to me rather than just apples to oranges.
It happens near the beginning of the first novel, and the attendees of the party are the people from Banager's school. Also
>I can't remember a Tomino hero who didn't know how to have fun at a party or was a complete party pooper
Uh... Judeau would be fine because he's a delinquent and really popular with women and Seabrook would be fine because he's a successful engineering student with a girlfriend, but the others? Amuro was described by Emma in Zeta Gundam, who met him by coincidence before the events of the story, as basically being a gloomy autist, and Kamille is a perpetually angry douchebag even when he's sober. Inviting either of them to a party would be a complete disaster.
That's no meme. All of her works are pretty forgettable, unless they were polarizing to fans of an already existing franchise, like Fujiko Mine.
Maybe Kiznaiver will change that, but signs are pointing to "no".
It's like Gundamfags never even watch anything but Gundam
Did I give a fuck about any of those? Have you seen this sexy beast?
>All of her works are pretty forgettable,
Nobody watched poor M3.
I just googled "did you expect me to read all that" stay salty my friend
But those were the only G-Reco MS I actually cared about, excluding Grimoire that got a kit.
And don't you 00 me until you find that you love Zanscare suits. That's where the real suffering lies.
>Worse than IBO
Keep believing that, lad
Because people are retarded and have the attention span of goldfishes?
You're free to justify your shit taste with that if you want to.
If it has more talking than robot fighting, /m/'s ADD kicks in. Therefore, it's shit.
As far as the topic goes, the only good thing about Unicorn was that it was pretty, and being a TV series kills that. Plotwise, it was literally Mad Libs-style assemble-a-UC Gundam.
>I can't remember a Tomino hero who didn't know how to have fun at a party or was a complete party pooper.
Spin-off about Bellri, Loran and Uso partying when?
It's the Gundam cycle, all currently airing Gundam is shit and a underrated great show when it isnt airing.
IMO the cast is pretty bland and they get away on a lot of poorly contrived conveniences, the villains are also kinda cartoonishly evil this time around and the fights arent all that impressive. They could have done a better job at world building too given the slow pace.
Other than Kudelia I don't find anything offensively awful about it, I just find Kudelia is just an incredibly unsympathetic, ignorant character who's being used by obvious evil adults and I cannot get over her ignorance and the shows attempt to explain away her faults because she wants to do good.
I will say Gundam always had genocidal psychopaths and retards for villains but at this point Ein should have died instead of Crank and I have no idea why they made that one space pirate guy look like a Captain Planet villain.
Gundam are not my thing, but i always see these kind of statements on /a/
>SEED is Shit
>AGE is Shit
>Unicorn Universe is Shit
>G Reco is Shit
>IBO is Shit
So, what does anon like from Gundam universe anyway if every thing from it are shit?
Nothing since SEED is a partial rehash of the original and you think everything else is shit including the universe of the original.
Gundam isn't particularly good to begin with. The original is an okay show, the last compilation movie for it is really well done and then everything else is pretty decisive. You either love a show or you dont care for it.
/m/ is just incredibly bad at ignoring shitposters and obvious bait. They're doomed, basically.
>mfw you can already notice two very consistent posting styles among people who make constant bait threads on /m/
Im dumb as fuck I'm starting to think they don't care.
Fukuda still alive and proven he can come up with retarded bullshit, which is all that is needed.
Hirai face, Fukuda to direct, Okouchi instead Morosawa, Seed mecha designs, same style OST
Or just even adapt one of many LN/Manga
>Kudelia is probably the single worst main character I've ever seen in my life, I'm trying to think of a main character I would dislike as much and I'm drawing all blanks. She's completely ineffectual, mopes around harder than GX Hibiki yet everyone fellates her nonexistent skill harder than they fellated Ainz in Overlord, which was horrible enough already.
This. The fact that she is the focus/MC makes it even worse.
No. You're trapped in this circle of pain.
Some random loli in IBO did got a doujin.
>"I have a question for the men out there: Are all men Gundams?
>The other day, my husband was watching [a Gundam show] in the living room.
>I said 'You're over 30, aren't you a little old for anime?' to which he said something along the lines of, '"Gundam is anime, but it's not anime.'
>My husband said that, 'All men are Gundams. I'm a Gundam too.'
>Apparently our son (who is one year old) will eventually be a Gundam too…
>I asked my friends, 'are you a Gundam?' to which they all replied, 'Yes, I am a Gundam.'
>Is it true that All men are Gundams? Please tell me.
>Thank you for all your answers.
>I was surprised that my husband, who never seemed to have an interest in anime, was watching Gundam.
>Recently, he has started incorporating Gundam when playing with our son and every now and then our son enters something called 'Destroy Mode(?)'
That's every Japanese girl's dream, anon