Why do harems have "main girls"?
I mean isn't the big draw of the genre seeing the drama and placing bets on who's gonna win?
If you have someone you know will win, the whole point is defeated.
Why not develop the cast in a well rounded manner?
Or in the very least, don't plaster a single girl in all of the advertising, thus making it ridiculously clear who the winner will be.
The target audience is socially inept pathetic neet fucks who can't handle excitement like that, they need peace of mind and to know how everything will play out
we're talking about people very close to mentally handicapped here, they wouldn't watch harems otherwise
That's the point, no I didn't.
Isn't that an inherent flaw in a narrative that focuses on introducing girls and trying to make you, the reader, want to see them end up with the MC?
When you already know who's gonna win, the drama of that feels pointless.
And it's not like it's just Nisekoi, there are countless stories that pull this.
I personally prefer it this way and I'm sure most people do too.
Haganai seems right up your alley however. I would have been pissed (if I was a fan) if that was their outcome.
>I personally prefer it this way and I'm sure most people do too.
May I ask why?
It's genuinely something I don't get. It's not a matter of me not liking any particular girl, it comes more down to story structure. If I see a harem manga that has like, a girl plastered front and center on the first volume, chances are I already know a good chunk of how this story is going to begin and end, even if it's not done being written.
>To avoid disappointment.
Huh. See I would be more disappointed if the author introduced a character that I enjoyed better than the "main girl", but having her lose regardless because they're obligated to go the route they've already established.
If there was a straight even playing field for everyone, that would create an experience I'd be much more invested in, on my end at least.
> yfw you finally realize you were actually reading a rom com, essentially a love story between main boy and main girl.
The other harem chicks are harbingers of conflict, they are there to cause consistent tension and suspense, things you need to keep a story going long term.
Its how things work.
It also allows you to develop the losers.
Besides who actually self-inserts as harem mains? Most of them range from mundane beta male to how they are not gay twinks beta.
Not even OP but the other chicks don't really bring any conflict into the series, they may do it at first but they quickly settle into "I will beat you for the MC but lets be friends!" thing.
I will be amazed if there's a harem series out there that doesn't do this.
The conflict is the illusion of any of them having a chance to win the MC so the main pair doesn't get together.
It's the same type of narrative illusion in action movies where you are supposed to believe maybe James Bond is in danger of getting killed.
I would first like a harem story with credible characters that feel like actual humans and not cardboard stereotypes.
As for why things are that way, >>137657325
Might be the best explanation, first girl is the one the author actually wanted to develop with the MC and then the rest are introduced to pander to other kind of fans and bring conflict, even if it's seemingly pointless from the reader's point of view.
I agree it's fucking bullshit and yes, i'm mad you faggots, i'm fucking mad
You raise an interesting point.
In theory, you would be right about the big draw of the genre being drama and placing bets on who'll win.
In practice, only the drama counts. People pick the girl they like best and, if she isn't the main lead, savor her interactions with the MC even when they know she'll be crushed. If she is the main lead, they are gratified throughout the course of the story with the knowledge that she'll win and can comfortably take in any development until they'll proven otherwise.
Horimiya comes to mind.
>worst girl wins
I'll never get this.
>best girl wins
I love this.
The thing is, I don't see many action movies plastering the hero over the defeated form of the villain.
You still have the question of how everything is going to go, but when you make it obvious that someone is going to win in a harem story, the tension is completely gone.
You can't introduce girls simultaneously, so whoever gets introduced first is the main girl, everyone after that is divided by their template like tomboy or yandere.
The caveat in this is childhood friends and sisters who, while introduced later in the story, are technically pre-existing and should logically have more emotional depth than main girl. But we all know that childhood friend never wins and very few people will support incest.
That's not even taking into account faggot authors who write best girls in then make them lose for the sake of stirring drama or otherwise give a girl 1% of screen time compared to other inferior girls.
So in the end what should be a fair communistic paradise is just greedy capitalism enforced by jewish authors and goyim audiences.
raises a good point with
>You still have the question of how everything is going to go, but when you make it obvious that someone is going to win in a harem story, the tension is completely gone.
The execution is bland in harems as well. You know Luffy will find One Piece but it's still interesting as to how he'll get there, another example is Lupin III where Lupin gets captured and you know he'll escape with some elaborate scheme but it's so much fun watching it.
Why the fuck are you self-inserting as these beta cucks? Isn't that one of the things Akamatsu pretty much said? The MC has their own tastes and desires
>making best girls lose for the sake of drama
I hate and like this trope at the same time. Like it because it makes me actually feel opinionated towards a character(s) but hate because its unfair that some blandie has to win because the MC is an herbivore and likes bland girls
>The MC has their own tastes and desires
The harem 'MC' tends to barely be a character, just a blank-slate with no outstanding characteristics(except maybe being good at cooking or some shit.) so I don't why you can't self-insert.
It's because they are blank slates that the idea of "self-inserting" can happen
>, and best girl won
No FUCK you
That's always been my issue. Harems having a "main girl", like the other girls had a chance anyway, clearly there's a front runner.
However, most of the time the author asspulls and has MC end up with another girl lol
Because otherwise we'd get endings like this.
Consider SAO. The main pairing is settled almost from the beginning. No conflict. And yet there are still a dozen girls orbiting around him.
It's just to add more girls for the viewer's favorite-picking in case the main girl is not to their tastes.
I always found that weird. The romance is pretty much settled, but the story just keeps on adding girls, and they mostly all just wanted Kirito's dick.
But they'll never get that dick.