Toriyama has done this before. Where he makes the character weird or weak looking but they're actually very strong. It's a trope buster.
- Final Form Freeza (Krillin mentioned that he physically looked weaker and smaller than his previous forms)
- Android 19 and 20
- Fat Buu
- Super Saiyan God
Just to name a few
Super is so bad, I'm starting to think so. Starting to. The Super manga has been pretty nice though. It doesn't have to worry about adapting shitty movies into months long story arcs.
>Nipples is the strongest character in their universe
>Gohan still a little bitch
>Goten and Trunks irrelevant, Gotenks will never be useful again
>No Future Trunks appearances
>Gohan still a little bitch
He at least is allowed to train with Piccolo.
>Goten and Trunks irrelevant, Gotenks will never be useful again
Pic fucking related. Thanks Toriyama for ruining two kids that actually enjoy fighting just because Goku needed to fuck off with his little sandnigga.
>Training with Piccolo
>Implying even a (hypothetically) obese, parapalegic MYSTIC Gohan who hasn't trained for 50 years should take more than half a second to absolutely obliterate piccolo
i know powerlevels are dumb but consistency would be nice
Piccolo is the best character though
Pokemon taught animal abuse like michael vick.
Yugioh taught us how to throw a deck of cards better than gambit.
Dbz taught us get off your ass, train, beat some ass with your own hands
And? Piccolo is a good teacher and his dynamic with Gohan is really good.
>We started from zero.
That's what Gohan said, implying Piccolo is teaching him skills.
>Piccollo acknowledged his limits and decided meditating would be more effective then futilely training in the last second
I really liked that. In contrast, I found Goku and Vegeta throwing away 3 years of their life for no reason to be quite stupid.
>yfw meditation helped Piccolo unlock Super Namekian God mode
He needs to fuse with Piccolo Daimou, like he does in the video games, and get the true power of the Nameless Namakian.
I can't believe Toriyama hasn't done this yet when everybody else did.
The powerup doesn't come from Daimou's power level, but the fact that it's the only missing part to Piccolo's true strength and identity. It's the same reason why absorbing Kami was such a huge powerup despite Kami being so weak. Piccolo is Daimou's child, but he's still a different person. The true Nameless Namakian consists of Daimou + Kami, while the current one is Piccolo + Kami. Using the logic from the Kami fusion, absorbing Daimou should therefore be a huge powerup.
I know. It's only a matter of time before he posts about the super secret series DB ultimate
But I find his cancer amusing, it's like a fusion of all the retarded things the DB fandom has
Piccolo is already the nameless Namek. Piccolo Daimou is unnecessary because the two halves have already been merged back together through Piccolo Jr. Get your fanfic shit out of here
And then he went back to being Piccolo because fuck you nigger he has no penis and still identifies as a male because IT MAKES THING SIMPLER FUCK YOU TUMBLR.
>but it's still leagues above super
>there are people who actually believe this
>there are people who seriously enjoy how GT handled the characters.
Something about this page warms my heart.
Does GT have Jaco? No
Super wins, pretty easy
>throwing away 3 years of their life for no reason
You get that like almost all enjoyment for these 2 comes from being able to bench press galaxies right? Why wouldn't they train even if they were so close to cap? How else do you push the limit and find new transformations/forms without doing that?
Master Roshi, Piccolo, and Krillen are the best characters you pleb
>working on toei
>need a new character fast to make the sales go up
>Toriyama sends you this
>lol thinks saber isn't shit, calls a white dude a spic 4 times, craves green cock, and is an aggressive pizza-faced virgin who shitposts on /a/
good on you, i definitely bet you won't kill yourself in the next few years
He could just try learning God Ki. It's not limited to any race, so there's no reason he can't.
>It's not limited to any race,
It is, though. Only the Kai's and gods of deduction have it normally. Sayians can only get it if they accomplish the one in a billion chance of holding hands and singing kimbyeha
>it's possible to pull a laser gun out so fast that someone who outran light as a child can't see
His introduction in the anime is going to suck.
>EEEEEEHHHHHHHH! Beerus-sama, you mean he's STRONGER THAN ME?
>[Vegeta/Beerus scolds Goku]
>YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA gomen gomen yappari
The only reason I watch this shit is brand loyalty.
Man, people like you probably would have hated it when Arale appeared in the original Dragonball.
>What is this? Girl doesn't have transformations and energy blasts yet she's kicking the shit out of red ribbon army, fail. She's a fucking joke, she should lose to these serious looking guys.
A character can look silly, yet not transform and still be quite dangerous. Arale herself is a good showing of this.
>Final Form Frost is just a lazy recolor
Seriously, changing everything to Blue isnt some revolutionary idea
Read the newest chapter; his reactions, his demeanor, the way he holds back and pretends something else is his final form, everything is blatantly like Goku, to the point that Goku says this guy is the same sort of annoying guy as himself.
Look closely at his reactions and attitude, if it wasn't already obvious.
So expecting action from an action series is retarded now? Now we have "i,my,me strawberry eggs fans vocalizing more crossdressing and teaparties instead of fights for a fighting show.....
Theres no hope....... Why tf do people who dont want to see battles watch this series?
Frieza did the exact same shit though.
Nothing says the guy is a mountain man level retard who gorges himself on food or anything.
It's more accurate to say he's what Goku hoped Frieza would become after sparing him. If you remember, Goku regretted that Frieza was so evil when they could have been sparring partners. If Frost is anything like Goku, it's only to the extent that Frieza was already like Goku.
the only thing he can give beerus a hard time is eating. i call it!!
Saiyans don't percieve time. It's pretty much established from the point that Goku landed on King Kai's planet, the time it took him to get from the lookout to the saiyan brawl and every fucking training period they ever took where they didn't have someone else to remind them.
Saiyans just live for the fight.
No. What Roshi said was that if Goku can't harm Winnie then he's going to lose by default due to stamina since DBZ stamina is based on how much damage you take, hence why regen guys generally don't lose in fights and perform above their weight.
Winnie was just immune to attacks that did any sort of damage so Goku dunks him outside the ring.
But Super is good. It's got best comedy since original db, it's opened a huge amount of possibilities with those universes, and Beerus, Whis, Champa and even Jaco are great.
Of course the movie recaps took too long and had terrible animation, but Super's original plot has just barely started like 3 or 4 episodes ago.
I wouldn't say Beerus looks weak. But definitely:
- Vegeta (as compared to huge, ripped Nappa)
- First form Frieza (he looked so small in this flying chair, and next to Dodoria or even Zarbon)
- Androids 18 and 17 (come on, they look like random teenagers)
- Kid Buu
And probably some more I'm forgetting. Yeah, Toryiama loves pulling this one.
All of your examples are mostly muscle. Frieza looks weaker, Fat Buu and 19 are fat, Beerus isn't super muscular, same with SSG.
The issue here is that it's a lazy, retarded design that even without the giant nipples would look like ass. All of those you mentioned had way more effort put into them.
I mean from a show this bad it doesn't surprise me
Actually the only problem of Super is animation, for the rest is far superior to GT, also he mantain the good of DBZ with some flavour of the first DB, without the GT bullshit.
Would be hilarious if he had a multiple pages long transformation with light effects, screaming & everyone shitting their pants and then its just that his ears turned green.
SUPER MONAKA GREEEN
>in the fucking year 2016
Why? This show was ok to watch as a kid but there is literally no reason to watch it know. Animation is shit and the Story is even worse than it already was. There is no excuse for watching this failed piece of shit.
Americans think that DBZ used to be serious and edgy because of the shitty funanimation localization.
Thats why all DB threads are utter shit.
Thank god DB is supposed to be a kids show even still in DBS.
because fuck how many plot holes and badwritting this thing has.
>mfw goku will duel this bitch one day and win.
You have to be over 18 to post here.
Please go back to whatever shithole you crawled out of.
You're right. Beerus said Goku was his 2nd best fight. But that's when Goku fought him as a normal SSJG. By the start of the tournament, Goku has achieved SSJB (which is the stronger form) and he trained for 3 years in the ROSAT with Vegeta. So it's possible Goku (and Vegeta) have matched or surpassed his strenght. I mean it's still possible Monaka is stronger too, we just don't know yet.
Daily reminder Goku is now officially a jobber
5.Monaka(could be stronger than champa)
Is it just patently obvious to everyone else that Beerus had trouble with him specifically because of his oversized nipples? I can imagine his entire strength being pulling down his leotard and playing with his nipples, and the opponent being too scare-roused to do anything but cry and give up.