Saiba and Rin merchandise sells like crazy. They are just milking the more well known type-moon series. Even though Tsukihime is miles better. It's not as good as Garden of Sinners but better than FSN. They could adapt the manga version of the VN. Which was pretty damn good considering most manga adaptations of VN.
>>137601063 Anyone with anything resembling taste >>137601072 Has one of the worst fanbases, written as shit, overcomplicated and ''exotic'' powers and names of powers, places, characters and events to disguise shallow plot and shit writing, written by a super hack, entire story is just flavor for the hentai yet retards swear it's one of the greatest things ever written... i could go one.
>>137601177 >>137601190 >>137601244 Story breaking powers tossed around like free candy, pretends hyper broken MC's are the underdogs, chuuni as fuck, seriously these powers look like they were thought of by an autistic 12 year old ''I can see so well i can kill or destroy anything with a knife''
>>137601391 >y-you don't g-get it! Get what? It's shallow, superficial shit. Literally the hardest Nasuverse makes you think is when you're trying to pronounce some of it's autistic terms or understand how some of it's needlesly overcomplicated mechanics work. The story and the characters can be summed up in a fucking sentence.
>>137601536 >I have zero argument so i'll just repeat the same thing untill the bad man goes away And unless there's and entire goldmine of lore that would get praise from Tolstoy and i somehow completely missed it despite going through a fuckton of material and having years of lurking it's threads, i'm well versed enough to form a (correct) opinion.
>>137601773 You seem to be one with autism, senpai, as you can't accept other people liking something you don't. In fact, you are the one with severe shit taste if you don't like a refined work such as Fate that LITERALLY no other franchise can stand up to.
Must be real fun being contrarian and hating something only because it is popular.
>>137601921 Oh, so it's autism. Judging something's quality purely based on popularity is the quickest way to show you're a bandwagoning faggot with no opinion of your own OR the franchise in question is so shit, you have to resort to the ''b-but it's popular''. You know what else is popular? Naruto. >LITERALLY no other franchise can stand up to In it's own primary medium of VN, maybe. But then again, it's a pretty shit medium to begin with. I honestly hope you haven't implied that Fate is the greatest/most popular franchise out of anything ever.
>>137602211 >purely But it isn't. But if something is good AND popular it's a pretty good indicator. Which Fate/TM is.
>it's a pretty shit medium to begin with And here we have another case of "Stop liking things I don't like!". If someone were to say it's actually an excellent medium with lots of extremely good and worhwhile games I think you're going to have a seizure, so I'll leave it at that.
>>137601323 In this case you mentioned, (Ryougi) Shiki's role is set up as that of a shikigami and a shinigami in one, and thematically speaking it's very appropriate for her to have a power like that.
Any magic system should have limits. Or else the author just cheats with having more "extraordinary" ways to solve problems.
Please don't downplay the philosophical stuff Nasu puts in as well. There's no problem in that mind you. But he goes too much into the deep end that sometimes you're left wondering, "is the magic really supposed to be that "un-understandable"?
>>137602507 Dude, when you call something "philosophical" it's double edged sword. Post some examples of "philosophical bullshit" first. DDD has some discussions about demons and real demons, so I think you will found it as "philosophical".
>>137602662 >No limits = deus ex machina times forever. Outside of fanservice endings like Sunny Day, where is the deus ex machina?
>Please don't downplay the philosophical stuff Nasu puts in as well. There's no problem in that mind you. But he goes too much into the deep end that sometimes you're left wondering, "is the magic really supposed to be that "un-understandable"? Is this supposed to be an all encompassing statement on everything Nasu has written? Give examples.
>>137602670 There are literally no shounen which are slow-building complex character studies like Fate is. In fact you would be hard pressed to find a seinen with a similar level of ambition to the way Nasu constructs his stories.
>>137602909 >F/SN was an R-18 work >even the non-eroge works have mature themes and difficult kanji unsuitable for the shounen demographic >somehow made for the shounen demographic You can argue quality of you want, but it's factually not fit for children.
>>137602909 Most shonenfags would drop Fate within a few hours because of emphasis on psychology and worldbuilding, and being inside the head of an character like Shirou who can act in ways that you have to try understanding. See all of the people that complain about him saying "girls shouldn't fight".
Pretty sure the reason shonenfags drop Fate is because of the age old "too much fanservice lol" meme and "too much cooking." The latter one being true, fanservice complain is retarded. It's a fucking eroge game, what do people expect.
>>137603382 I don't need to tell you--Realta Nua and the anime adaptations that are largely devoid of those things are popular, and in any case there are hundreds of nukige and moege that otaku go to for fanservice and hentai. If you're playing F/SN to jerk off you are going to be sorely disapponted, and if you're playing it for waifus I hope you're okay with them dying in a number of endings.
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