What if Mahoyo hadn't underperformed?

>>137599735
Then it would have had a lot of H-scenes.

>>137599735
Then Aoko would have blonde hair.

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>Fate shitnight spinoff underperforming
Good,its a trash franchise and should die

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>>137600343

>says anon with One-meme man pic.

Type Moon needs to get their shit together and produce another good Fate series that isn't a spinoff of FSN. Something like Fate/Zero.

In the meantime, Tsukihime anime when?

>>137600414
Tsukihime is about life, death, and eternity yet I feel it has been forgotten

>>137600588

Saiba and Rin merchandise sells like crazy. They are just milking the more well known type-moon series. Even though Tsukihime is miles better. It's not as good as Garden of Sinners but better than FSN. They could adapt the manga version of the VN. Which was pretty damn good considering most manga adaptations of VN.

>>137600676
>Saiba
>blonde
>sells like fucking crazy

>Rin
>black hair
>sells like crazy

>Aoko
>brown hair
>sells like shit

I see a pattern.

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It probably would've helped if it had actually been a completed story.

>i'm gonna break this story into 3 parts
>shorter than Tsukihime/Fate
>costs the same
>oh, by the way, no h-scenes because AOKO IS MAI WAIFU NOT YOURS


I think one compliment was that it had pretty slick animations for a VN game.

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>>137599735
>What if Mahoyo hadn't underperformed?

How would you know if it "underperformed" if you never read it you fucking EOP?

Mahoyo sales were good in Japan.

>>137600414
>another good Fate series
>Fate
>good
Fate, and Nasuverse in general, in one of the worst, most cancerous franchises of all time.

>>137601037
Says who

>>137601037
Honestly curious about why you hate it so much

>>137600343
>Mahoyo
>Fate spinoff

here's your (you)

>>137600877
The animation, CG and ost for Mahoyo is god tier. If only it has voice acting and not split into 3 it would be TM's magnum opus.

I don't get it.

So right now Mahoyo is still like the 1st part? Where's the 2nd and 3rd?

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>>137601075
>Same magic system
>Same world
>Comes after F/SN
>Is an VN

How is it NOT a spinoff when it literally is based in the same world?

>>137601063
Anyone with anything resembling taste
>>137601072
Has one of the worst fanbases, written as shit, overcomplicated and ''exotic'' powers and names of powers, places, characters and events to disguise shallow plot and shit writing, written by a super hack, entire story is just flavor for the hentai yet retards swear it's one of the greatest things ever written... i could go one.

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>>137601137

They're coming up right after Tsukihime 2

>>137601155
Please go on

>>137601155
>i could go one.
Yes please go one

>>137601164
Tsukihime has been abandoned, anon

>>137601155
>Anyone with anything resembling taste

Who?

>i could go one.

Go one.

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>>137601148
Fate is the Mahoyo spin off.
There, I said it.

>>137601037
I agree. Fate is like Okabe's embarrassing chuunibyou delusions but is actually treated like a serious story dragged out over the course of 50 hours.

>>137601148
are you baiting or are you actually this retarded?

if it's the former then you got me good

if it's the latter then just kill yourself already

>>137601177
>>137601190
>>137601244
Story breaking powers tossed around like free candy, pretends hyper broken MC's are the underdogs, chuuni as fuck, seriously these powers look like they were thought of by an autistic 12 year old ''I can see so well i can kill or destroy anything with a knife''

>>137601279
Fucking this. It's literally some autists fantasies brought to life.

>>137601323
But how would you know it if you never read it you filthy EOP?

>>137601391
>y-you don't g-get it!
Get what? It's shallow, superficial shit. Literally the hardest Nasuverse makes you think is when you're trying to pronounce some of it's autistic terms or understand how some of it's needlesly overcomplicated mechanics work. The story and the characters can be summed up in a fucking sentence.

>>137601484
But how would you know it if you never read it you filthy EOP?

>>137601006
Why nobody is scanning this tough?

>>137601323
>>137601155
Most of those are positives though? I thought you wanted to criticize it.

>>137601536
>I have zero argument so i'll just repeat the same thing untill the bad man goes away
And unless there's and entire goldmine of lore that would get praise from Tolstoy and i somehow completely missed it despite going through a fuckton of material and having years of lurking it's threads, i'm well versed enough to form a (correct) opinion.

>>137601592
>positives
Yes, if you want to write literal garbage those are the way to go.

>>137601694
Hm, I don't think so! Fate is obviously a masterpiece, as its success shows.

Are you jealous?

>>137601656
But how would you know it if you never read it you filthy EOP?

>>137601723
>as its success shows
>exclamation point
You're either trolling me very good, or you have legitimate autism.

>>137601737
>How to argue fatefag style
>step 1: ignore legitimate criticizm
>step 2: repeat the same thing over and over

>>137601148

Fateshitters are the biggest fucking retards ever.

>>137601773
You seem to be one with autism, senpai, as you can't accept other people liking something you don't. In fact, you are the one with severe shit taste if you don't like a refined work such as Fate that LITERALLY no other franchise can stand up to.

Must be real fun being contrarian and hating something only because it is popular.

>>137601896
That's you, actually.

>>137601809
I'm not seeing any "legitimate criticism". That anon just spew a bunch of words you could say about anything without elaborating on any single point.

>>137601809

>has never experience any of the works he's shitting on
>legitimate criticizm
>can't spell criticism

bow before the literary genius

>>137599762
>muh porn

I can't believe people want more porn from Nasu.

And Mahoyo was 10 times better than Fate/Trash.

Of course the Naruto crowd that loved Fateshit would hate it.

>>137601942
Yeah, no.

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>>137601809
But how would you know it if you never read it you filthy EOP?

>>137601942
Naruto crowd loves the Fate anime adaptations, not the VN.

>>137601933
>>has never experience any of the works he's shitting on
>''despite going through a fuckton of material''
And bow before the embodiment of reading comprehension.

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>>137601896
>I dont have and rebuttal
>Il call him a retard instead
Nice one tsukifag,are you mad because your favorite franchise is dying?

KEK

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>>137602070
Backoff bitchu.

>>137601921
Oh, so it's autism. Judging something's quality purely based on popularity is the quickest way to show you're a bandwagoning faggot with no opinion of your own OR the franchise in question is so shit, you have to resort to the ''b-but it's popular''. You know what else is popular? Naruto.
>LITERALLY no other franchise can stand up to
In it's own primary medium of VN, maybe. But then again, it's a pretty shit medium to begin with. I honestly hope you haven't implied that Fate is the greatest/most popular franchise out of anything ever.

>>137602211
I would love to have a discussion on why you feel Fate/Nasuverse is shit, but you haven't given any real criticism yet.

>>137602211
>purely
But it isn't. But if something is good AND popular it's a pretty good indicator. Which Fate/TM is.

>it's a pretty shit medium to begin with
And here we have another case of "Stop liking things I don't like!". If someone were to say it's actually an excellent medium with lots of extremely good and worhwhile games I think you're going to have a seizure, so I'll leave it at that.

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>ITT: EOP shitpost about Mahou
>no one shitpost about DDD
>no "DDDfags" in /a/ except 1,5 anon
So ronery

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>>137600343

>should die


good luck with that

>>137601323
In this case you mentioned, (Ryougi) Shiki's role is set up as that of a shikigami and a shinigami in one, and thematically speaking it's very appropriate for her to have a power like that.

>>137601942
If it isn't pandering eroge chuuni shit what's the point, come on guys

The problem with Nasuverse is that it has no limits to its powers.

Also, it goes on explaining stuff that actually make no sense anymore. It's not even deep. It's just literally a convoluted mess.

Aoko has a damn great body though.

>>137602265
>but you haven't given any real criticism yet
Then it should be easy to shoot down what i did say.

>>137602392
How does it have "no limits to its powers", and why do you think this is a problem in the context of the stories?

>Also, it goes on explaining stuff that actually make no sense anymore. It's not even deep. It's just literally a convoluted mess.
Examples

>>137601942
Mahoyo is chuuni too. I don't think you read it.
>2018
>And DDD was 10 times better than Mahoyo trash

>>137602424
You didn't say anything except for the vague mystic eyes reference, which I addressed here >>137602347

>>137602466
Do any of the characters repeat their poorly thought out philosophical bullshit ad naseum in DDD?

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>>137600414
>Fate series that isn't a spinoff of FSN.
Pick one.

>>137602466
Nasu will never finish DDD.

>>137602507
If you don't like philosophy you can always read low-grade moege or shounen manga.

>>137602587
Inb4 "Fate is shounen"

>>137602459
No limits = deus ex machina times forever.

Any magic system should have limits. Or else the author just cheats with having more "extraordinary" ways to solve problems.

Please don't downplay the philosophical stuff Nasu puts in as well. There's no problem in that mind you. But he goes too much into the deep end that sometimes you're left wondering, "is the magic really supposed to be that "un-understandable"?

>>137602649
but it is

>>137602507
Dude, when you call something "philosophical" it's double edged sword. Post some examples of "philosophical bullshit" first. DDD has some discussions about demons and real demons, so I think you will found it as "philosophical".

>>137599735

It spawned some neat NTR doujin so who gives a shit?

>>137602662
>No limits = deus ex machina times forever.
Outside of fanservice endings like Sunny Day, where is the deus ex machina?

>Please don't downplay the philosophical stuff Nasu puts in as well. There's no problem in that mind you. But he goes too much into the deep end that sometimes you're left wondering, "is the magic really supposed to be that "un-understandable"?
Is this supposed to be an all encompassing statement on everything Nasu has written? Give examples.

>>137602670
Shounen isn't a genre

>>137602670
There are literally no shounen which are slow-building complex character studies like Fate is. In fact you would be hard pressed to find a seinen with a similar level of ambition to the way Nasu constructs his stories.

>>137602832
Fate is intended for the demographic, though

>>137602899
Evangelion

>>137602909
>F/SN was an R-18 work
>even the non-eroge works have mature themes and difficult kanji unsuitable for the shounen demographic
>somehow made for the shounen demographic
You can argue quality of you want, but it's factually not fit for children.

>>137602909
Most shonenfags would drop Fate within a few hours because of emphasis on psychology and worldbuilding, and being inside the head of an character like Shirou who can act in ways that you have to try understanding. See all of the people that complain about him saying "girls shouldn't fight".

>>137603011
The demographic covers the ages of 8 to 18

>>137602899
Jojo

>>137603032
>See all of the people that complain about him saying "girls shouldn't fight".
not so sure what Shirou's sexist remarks has to do with complex psychology and world building

>>137602899
>Fatefags actually believe this bullshit
There is no hope for you.

>>137603244
Then I highly doubt you read the scene(s) in question.

>>137603263
Thanks for the insight.

>>137603032

Pretty sure the reason shonenfags drop Fate is because of the age old "too much fanservice lol" meme and "too much cooking." The latter one being true, fanservice complain is retarded. It's a fucking eroge game, what do people expect.

>>137603289
It doesn't explain why people you say would drop it would drop it because of that

>>137603289
Remove the fanservice and the hentai and tell me Fate would be a tenth of it's popularity.

>>137603382
I don't need to tell you--Realta Nua and the anime adaptations that are largely devoid of those things are popular, and in any case there are hundreds of nukige and moege that otaku go to for fanservice and hentai. If you're playing F/SN to jerk off you are going to be sorely disapponted, and if you're playing it for waifus I hope you're okay with them dying in a number of endings.

>>137602698
>NTR
>neat
How?