I still don't understand how the Third Impact would be a bad thing.
Literally whats bad about that?
The movie was a trip, but it doesn't explain anything, which I like, but it eats me up inside not being able to figure things out
>Evangelion is like a puzzle, you know. Any person can see it and give his/her own answer. In other words, we’re offering viewers to think by themselves, so that each person can imagine his/her own world. We will never offer the answers, even in the theatrical version. As for many Evangelion viewers, they may expect us to provide the ‘all-about Eva’ manuals, but there is no such thing. Don’t expect to get answers by someone. Don’t expect to be catered to all the time. We all have to find our own answers.
Don't drag all of the rest of us with you
This, imagine the things we could do with the power of the S2 engine at our disposal. We wouldn't need to become one, every man himself could be a god! To command the stars. That sounds like true ecstasy. Let the cowards waste in the great piss ocean and let those who are willing to claim themselves inherit the Earth. In the end I think that rejecting instrumentality was the most personally heroic thing Asuka and Shinji ever did.
You don't actually exist. You all merge into one. Sadness and loneliness don't exist there no, but neither does happiness.
It's to teach us that pain is worth it if at some point we obtain happiness sometimes.
Anno doesn't know either so IT MUST BE ESCAPISM! SO DEEP.
Good luck surviving in the future though.
Just enjoy the ride and stay away from waifu wars, just remember how Shinji ended after the waifu-lypse was over.
You're enforcing your lame ass utilitarian metric on everyone. Some people prefer to play the game, just because you're bad at it doesn't mean other people don't get to play. What gives us happiness it success, discovery, love. To accept instrumentality is to voluntarily lose one's ability to have meaning.
That's literally Shinji's thinking in the show, try paying attention to the answer the show offers to those questions and maybe someday you'll get to a CONGRATULATION ending irl
>1) funerals are expensive
Already have my funeral planned out. No casket, no big production, natural burial.
>2) they'd have to go through all your weebshit
All my shit is neatly packed in the same place
Because other people can put up with being hurt, whereas it seems impossible to a coward like you. And pain isn't inherently bad anyway, without it there would be no happiness.
Independent thought and individual separation are our A.T fields.
Once you meet friends or loved ones who make you feel comfortable, so much so that you are willing to let your guard (A.T field) down, then you can become connected with people and feel real love.
Too much love turns you into tang doe.
>Because other people can put up with being hurt, whereas it seems impossible to a coward like you.
I have put up with hurt. But I've also hurt others and I don't feel the need to keep on living if this vicious cycle will be forever.
Adding to that, I know the position you're in anon, but I've already knocked at death's door twice and still think that suffering is better than nothing. At least you can still feel and turn those feelings into fap material.
You are underestimating others. You think you can put up with hurt but other people can't, so you are trying to play the sacrifical lamb and off yourself so everyone can be free from the sin that is your existence? Well, I've got news for you.
>Art imitates life
>And life imitates art
dammit you posted it too early
I always see this happening on /a/ and /m/ just a few days ago some guys were spouting some heated ideological debate over something about a show, shit gets meta on here sometimes
Holy hell I guess Anno did have deep characters after all
That's simply what you've made yourself believe,you can't truly know the limits of those around you. you may think you're the only one suffering in this world but everyone has their struggles
But anon, EoE doesn't have this.
Oh fuck this, if you think you are better off dead why not just go out with a bang and do crazy shit like >>137542568 or whatever you like.
Because I don't. Why be here? Why continue? In the end we'll all be forgotten. In a few days you'll even forget about this thread and this conversation. Ending it now just cuts the suffering short.
But it does. The scene where Shinji talks with Rei and Kaworu and decides that he wants to go back to the AT Field world, even if it brings pain back, is analogue to the TV ending, it even has the coral sea floor setting and all.
Whenever we have people wanting to kill themselves they start quoting EoE, specifically Shinji's lines.
Thats why EoE and Eva is fucking amazing, it gets into the modern suicidal NEET's head.
Its like catcher in the rye but holden caulfield eventually gets called out and redeems his being a fucking shit head.
this tbqhwyf (to be quite honest with you senpai)
go get a gf
So because you know something will end you think why bother anyway? That's like saying nothing that exists matters because the universe will eventually end.
That type of reasoning is just an excuse to run away from it all,to escape from life's pleasure and pain.
That's really fucking lame, not that I expect much from a person who wants to an hero. Life is full of possibilities and you choose death?
>In the end we'll all be forgotten.
Exactly, I've long come to the conclusion that life has no real meaning or purpose anyway so I'm better off doing whatever I damn please. If I were to die today there would be shitloats of cool things that I'd miss, like a new anime series, video games or Donald Trump winning the election. That said, Dark Souls 3 is coming out soon, I can't wait.
i know right? I love this board
Asuka: That I disappear.
Shinji: Yet, I can disappear because I think I am useless.
Asuka: Because I am useless.
Shinji: After all, I am a useless child.
Nobody cares me.
Mistato: You run away considering nobody cares you.
You fear to fail.
You fear to be disliked.
You fear to see the weekness within you.
That's good to hear man,when I came to the same reasoning I though even though I'll die I still want to experience lots of things from my point of view and others.
So I made it a goal to travel the world to visit and live in different places.
I love the idea of an Absolute Terror field.
Because thats really what it is, when you offer yourself up to rejected, especially if you're really opening up.
More than just getting rejected from a date, but going up to a girl and have her reel from you trying to kiss her, or just opening up your deepest shit to another. Absolute terror really is the only way to describe it.
Don't you get it, TARS? We were the 1st ancestral race all along.
>tfw End of Eva is so deep people don't even realise they've been trapped in its web, 20 years later
Honestly I think universal waifu trolling is exactly what Red vs Blue needs to cool down.
post rei with tranny.jpg
post asuka with toilet.jpg
Anything is better than that one REALLY salty Reifag who insults everybody coming around and we get a unfun heated discussion as everyone argues with and against him and its not nice.
Hardly relevant. You don't need to be remembered for an eternity to justify you existence. You don't need to be loved and you don't need to be happy. Pain, all pain really, exists inside your mind, and the consequences of dealing with pain are yours to decide. In the end you're right, you can kill yourself and likely enough no one would remember you just as it would be if you lived until you were 106. Your relatives might miss you if you have any who care, but in the end it couldn't mean anything...
Maybe, but how could you know that, how could you perceive what fruit your life will bear. Of what importance is it to you that you have the most relevant existence in human history. You couldn't possibly know if you're the only person in existence, hell you can't even know if the machinations by which you obtain knowledge of your existence are real. In the end you're left with a simple choice, life or oblivion.
Tell me what meaning could death posses over life, if the only reason you could think of to die is to stop your living pain. In the end the pain hasn't stopped, you have.
My existence, how humans innately are. Is creating the pain I perceive. If I were a fly, life or death would barely be a difference to me. My existence only has meaning because of who I perceive myself to be. If I perceive death as a better alternative to life, why should I force myself to keep living. In death there is at least peace, I won't be able to perceive pain and I would have to live it
Don't do it, anon. Know that you're not alone, I'm the same and we'll find a way, I promise.
That why you need a robutt powered by dead moms.
Then you can reject bitch ass angels so hard that you shoot force fields out your ass
Them Eva's are basically huge amplifiers, and your dead mom becomes Jimi Hendrix.
You'd rather have everyone become tang just because it's beneficial for you?
That's rather selfish to all the people that are content with how things are at the moment, is it not?
You wouldn't be able to perceive peace either. Do yourself a favor, if you have a death wish join the U.S. military, South East Asia simmering nicely, who knows you might get lucky.
But seriously you want to know a secret. The ONLY reason I was trying to console you was so you would admit that you wanted to live and I could post the fucking congratulations gif and video! THAT'S RIGHT THE ONLY REASON I GAVE YOU THE TIME OF DAY WAS BECAUSE I THOUGHT I COULD GET A GAG OUT OF YOU. Now cut the existentialist bullshit and realize that you have to options. Live of die, go ahead kill yourself an win the ultimate reward in the looser lottery.
No, it's actually a world that's objectively more fair and better for everyone. They would just not experience pleasure anymore, which isn't a bad thing.
How so? In that it's whiny, vapid, and ultimately goes nowhere? Everyone with no idea for their future feels that way.
It never gets better. One is best off killing oneself.
> Le ebin vulcan may may
If someone really has such low regard for their own life, then they should have no objection to pulling out a credit card, running to vegas, run a few lines off of whores, and then finish the deed in the desert. It's really the perfect crime.
Do you think that Asuka and Shinji found the spears of Longuinus and Casius to rebuild the world?
Also I tought that only the humans are those that became tang?
Besides maybe there is still good on the ruins of the old world and stuff.
I liked the end of the N64 game but I wonder if Anno had anything to do with it.
Instead of shinji choking her, they both reach for each others hand and then Asuka says something that we never know what it is.
Is there a girl you like before you go all out?
>A boy but they don't like me that way anymore
So you are a girl?
What way do you mean? Have you tried to talk with him or confess your feelings? I know it sounds cheesy as fuck but you have to open up and give yourself a chance.
Life is tough and it hurts but even then there are great moments that will fill you with joy, thus they are the joy of living.
>So you are a girl?
>What way do you mean? Have you tried to talk with him or confess your feelings?
Yes and he said he did too but then lied and went after someone else. He hates me now too
>being a literal faggot
Found your problem
SEELE's plan was to have their souls put into an Eva with an S2 engine with the Lance gone, so they would eternal with the only thing to kill it, the lance gone, making them gods, and the ultimate testament that the human race existed.
Cassius doesn't exist in that continuity and Yui took Longinus when she left. She confiscated that shit, nothing like that could ever be done again no matter what happened to Earth.
Then how else could they be connected? Sequel theorist over here.
If it is indeed a sequel then Cassius lance could actually be there or something else happened because for what we have seen, it is the same world and moon from EOE.
here is the solution.
Being gay is a bad thing. Humans are genetically programmed to not like them because they would present a burden to our ancestral selves due to incapable of reproducing the genes of the clan etc..
I like the manga version, shinji battles and cuts them down to pieces in there.
is asuka the smuggest animu character ever?
Imagine every human achievement, ever piece of art in existence that was inspired by pain, by grief, by anger, by selfishness, by all kinds of negativity or adversity. From chaos.
Then imagine that could never be. That would suck.
Idealistic bliss without the perspective that makes that state blissful is empty.
2.22 was a great movie, and anyone who says they disliked it but liked 3.33 is a contrarian faglord.
i don't care what y'all virgins say
i like doki doki rei
>If I were to die today there would be shitloats of cool things that I'd miss, like a new anime series, video games or Donald Trump winning the election.
On second thought, please kill yourself within the next 6 months.
I loved 2.22 I want to get the bluray tought but it is sold out everywhere. Also the preiew for 3.33 was awesome and looked waay different from the end product.
Also Asuka got jealous of shinji's mom clone, what a crazy situation...
Had they invited her to that lunch then things wouldnt had gone down the drain.
Also I want to know how these movies are connected to the original run. Hoping the new one will tell us how.
god damn it i had a fucking pic to go with this and i somehow didnt post it
while im at it, were SEELE really the bad guys here? it seemed like all they wanted to do was to "evolve humanity" which doesn't really seem like a bad thing by itself
For every one person who was inspired by adversity, there were millions more who were crushed by it.
You assume that art and advancement can only by made under negative pressure, but how do you know that? The sort of utopia where everyone is happy has never existed and it would be wrong to assume art and science wouldn't advance under those conditions.
The purpose of human life is to obtain happiness. Sure, a world where everyone is happy without sadness might look empty and without perspective to you, but do you not want people to be happy? Is it really that important to experience sad things? For us, adversity is necessary because the world we live in is full of it and we need to challenges to prepare us for life, but sadness is not inherently needed to be happy.
SEELE's goal as stated in the game NGE2 is that they want just SEELE's souls to be merged with an Eva unit with an S2 engine after destroying the Lance. Since the Eva is a godlike body, and the Lance being the only thing that can destroy it, with the Lance gone they would be an immortal God with a human soul that would represent the pinnacle of humanity that would last for eternity.
>You assume that art and advancement can only by made under negative pressure
No, not at all. I merely mean there ARE things, wonderful things, made by that negative pressure - to become a homogeneous blob of warm feelings means to lose those things, forever.
Our sadness and pain are just as important as our happiness and comfort.
>having ugly grandparents
That door swings both ways. Do you think she wants people knowing what she was thinking, feeling and doing when she was 15 years old? She wasn't always your grandma.
Who would be ashamed or embarrassed of anything in Instrumentality?
There are people starving and dying right now. There are also people being raped and being murdered.
All over the world, countless atrocities are being committed because of negative emotions.
If we trade away all the sadness and anger in the world for happiness, sure, we'll lose some important things, but just think about how great the world could be everybody just be happy.
Wait are we still talking about Eva or is this now a crypto-/adv/ thread wherein we try to get 2-3 anons not to kill themselves for real?
As a fairly dysfunctional person I've considered suicide enough times in my life that I don't think I could earnestly tell someone not to do it under any circumstances without being a hypocrite. But what I will tell you is that knowing I always have that option on the backburner has, ironically, probably kept me from doing it so far. I mean, if I can quit at any time, why not keep going a while longer just to see what happens? There are so many things I still haven't experienced in the world. I've discovered that working with troubled children is one of the few things I'm good at and makes me feel like I'm doing something worthwhile. I love film, art and literature and I'd like to see at least one serious personal project within one of those mediums to completion during my life. I want to meet a woman I love, get married and become a father. Little by little I'm starting to learn how to socialize with people in moderately healthy ways, and finally starting to feel like an actual adult. I've reconnected with old friends and rediscovered old hobbies. I don't know what the future will be like but I'm in a better place now than I was even just a couple months ago, when I was last seriously considering suicide as an option. I'm not saying I've completely ruled it out as a possibility, but I'mnot ready to throw in the towel just yet.
I'm not saying I know your situation(s); obviously, I can only speak from my own limited perspective. But I hope maybe you can consider what I'm saying as someone who's had the same thoughts as you.
PS: If you're not on medication, seriously consider it before you commit to any binding decisions. It really does make a difference, and I wouldn't bother with it for a second if I thought it didn't.
It's not happiness though. It's just oblivion. You could also end an immense amount of human suffering by cleansing the earth in nuclear fire, but doing so would also end everything humanity is and everything humanity could have been. It's pointless.
part of me wants to believe that that's the reason why asuka left instrumentality
she didn't exactly handle that whole mind-probing thing well the first time around
First off, suffering and happiness are one of the same and come hand in hand. They are concepts and borders created by the human mind to limit ourselves and the world, to define who we are. It's all a matter of perspectives. Say, if all the pain that you are experiencing were gone, the thing that you'd view to be least convenient would be the new suffering. That's why third-worlders are happy to just get fed, while some first-world kids would probably think it's the end of the world if he didn't get a new Iphone for his birthday.
>The purpose of human life is to obtain happiness.
No, it's not. The only purpose of all living things is the continuation of its race/species, it's hard-wired into the genes. Of coure, we human can break free from it and make a new purpose for ourselves but it's different for each person. Some want to get comfy with their beloved till the end of their lives, but some just want to watch the world burn and get off from it.
I really want to see a remake of Eva where Shinji gets really into /fit/ culture. Instead of being a scrawny autist with nothing to live for I want to see him as some yolked autist obsessed with improving his natty limit and impressing other men. He comes to the relization that his dad is some edgy brooding manlet and tells him to fuck himself; he doesnt need his approvale because everyone else is already mirin hard.
In the end he rejects instrumentality for the sake of keeping all his gainz.
I've always preferred the idea that SEELE were people who got incredibly rich and powerful, realized that they were still incredibly unfulfilled and sad, thought everyone else was the same, and thought Instrumentality offered the only way for humanity to truly be happy.
That always struck me as a lot more interesting and thematically relevant than just a bunch of rich dudes trying to become even more powerful on the backs of the human race.
I hope you don't mean this
As hilarious as it is, it really saddens me that this is what a lot of my burgerland friends thought when I showed them Eva.
Different culture I suppose
This. Life is full of suffering and the universe doesn't give a single shit about you. Without life there's no pain, but also no love, glory, morality, or anything else that's only made possible by the existence of freedom of choice in a violent, amoral world.
Life is about proclaiming your existence in the face of a cold, uncaring void. Anything else is between you and your maker.
>just a bunch of rich dudes trying to become even more powerful
what are you talking about, thats like one of the core themes in the series duh
that said, a backstory like that makes me wonder what the people at seele were doing prior to the Katsuragi Expedition, or before they even found the Dead Sea Scrolls for that matter.
Fun fact that adds onto this: Some people have confused "A.T. Field" for a "genuine psychology term" before.
they explain what the AT field is like 30 times m8
it's just that the pilots' mothers' had done contact experiments with the EVAs and their souls (or parts of their soul in asuka's case) got absorbed
All of the actions make just as much sense if they were just attempting to trigger Instrumentality and send everyone to the tang. Even makes more sense in some cases, like the fact that they seemed fine with Lilith and later Shinji taking control of Instrumentality.
Thematically too, when you have a story basically about people who can't deal with their personal problems, it makes sense that the members of SEELE, despite their immense power, still couldn't find happiness, and concluded just like Shinji that the only way out was through the mixing of souls.
This line in particular by Keel points to this as well.
>This is also the moment when the souls can rest at peace.
Young man, you've only lived a quarter or a fifth of your live. It's way too young for you to make a statement like that.
I'm only five years older than you are and believe me, you'll grow to find intricacies in life that will convince you of its wonders.
Yeah, I have no doubt that I'm speaking from a pretty limited perspective, but arguing with strangers on an anonymous Mongolian tapestry board is pretty fun.
Also don't you have to be 26+ to be a Christmas cake?
You're an unwanted Christmas Cake at 26, I believe.
I'm not exactly what you'd call a normalfag, but I have seen a lot of things. Too many things happen by chance and dumb luck. Too many things that you'd never expect to happen... actually happens. Just when you think you've understood something, you find out that you actually had no idea.
Life is wonderful, dear anon. As much as there are negatives in this world, there are equally overwhelming amount of good.
>Life is wonderful, dear anon. As much as there are negatives in this world, there are equally overwhelming amount of good.
Well, may be in a rich fucking country it is.
I don't think that's what the tripfag was trying to show to OP, but yes it does sound soft-headed bullshit.
I've lived through my fair share of poverty and misery.
I've also seen many people in this shithole desperately reaching out for something good, and while they may not admit it due to what they've done and what they are, they've shown me something good can come from them.
I'd like to believe that the world has improved enough to give a chance to those who reaches out, that we can at least make it halfway there, and achieve happiness on our road.
Being rich and living in 1st world country may sound good, but as a person who was born into that kind of family, I can tell you that there's plenty of misery that can be born from it.
It is the fears, the loneliness, the conflict and the chaos of existence that has driven us to where we are now. The constant awareness that our shadow is death waiting to snatch us at anytime is what has caused men to go out and conquer the earth, master the sea, build rockets to space, touch the moon, split the atom. It is the very thing that drives SEELE to initiate third impact. The irony of it all is that the very act of third impact will remove the very drive that led SEELE to create the technology that allowed for third impact. While we'd never be alone, and while we'd be able to fully understand each other, that full ability to understand each other and be one in immortality with each other will mean that we'll achieve nothing. Just a floating blob in space. We'd be alive, but the things that mark us as alive would be gone, so then what's the fucking point?
>We'd be alive, but the things that mark us as alive would be gone,
Everthing will be gone with time, the only thing that will live forever is the eva itself, one day the human race will go extinct, the sun will enter his final phase and the earth will be destroyed, there will be nothing left of humanity aside from eva.
I rather be a immortal godlike being living forever in space than be just a sack of meat that will be dead and gone forever in a few years.
I could care less about being "connected" to 99% of humanity, after all I love humanity itself, but I hate human beings on the personal level, but I do care about being immortal.
watch NGE+EoE and find out m8
An immortal godlike being that will never interact with anything and never create anything. A godlike being that will float in space entirely until the universe stretches so much that it never even has a chance to run into anything again, maintaining it's own existence solely through a source of infinite energy. You might live forever but you'd live for nothing.
>Life is wonderful, dear anon.
Is this also on your tumblr page?
>As much as there are negatives in this world, there are equally overwhelming amount of good.
I've met optimists who would disagree with this.
You're all faggots for taking your philosophies from a chinese cartoon.
think of it as Shinji's ironically noble selfishness
Shinji is the one person you'd expect to embrace a world being handed to him by the Third Impact, yet the first people to return to human form are him and Asuka, the two most fucked up and emotionally distraught people.
You could even interpret him strangling Asuka as him wanting to just be truly alone, one of shinjis trademark emotional/character regressions that make up the bulk of his plight
No my friend, if you like Evangelion at all for what it is, then you'll like 3.33. If like happy mecha fun times and GAR action you'll like 2.22.
I like both for what they are.
In the flashback in 2.22 there shows 4 Adams and 4 Spear of Longinus'. It's the same in the Until You Come To Me short film.
I honestly think Rebuild is gonna be another canon and that all these things sequel theorists think connect them are just nods and winks to the original. I mean, do you sequel theorists every sit and think: "Wait, how would we have ended up here in these events in Rebuild after the ending of EoE?"
It wouldn't make sense.
My ironic tumblr page only has a bunch of copied and pasted chatlogs of my friends saying funny things, mos of which are mostly Taiga's.
I think you misunderstood when I said "equally overwhelming amount of good." I don't mean that there would be an equal but opposite amount of good to counterbalance the bad like Newton's third law for good and bad or whatever. I mean that the amount of good that you will experience will take you aback and by surprise, as much as the negative things you'll experience.
Life works in unpredictable ways, young man. The smartest thing anyone can say about life with absolute certitude is that they cannot predict or expect anything from it.
Once you grow older, and I mean beyond your early 20s, you'll eventually understand.
Three Longinus, one Cassius. Maybe five if Lilith's spear isn't one of these.
They probably act as control rods for the Adams
But they couldn't into space.
Humanity could have achieved much more had they not become a puddle of Tang.
> what are you talking about, thats like one of the core themes in the series duh
I can't tell if you're joking but no it isn't. What IS a core theme of the series is the idea of human beings as lonely, incomplete entities longing to be made whole and willing to turn a blind eye to others for that purpose. SEELE as a group of warped idealists is a lot more interesting and more supported by the plot and themes of the actual series.
Autistic faggots who cite the shat-out-for-a-quick-buck licensed video games as authoritative sources in discussions on Eva should be forcibly quarantined to Evageeks desu
Reminder that in Rebuild SEELE is literally just the Gazel Ministry from Xenogears.
They even meet the same fate.
>Hyper-advanced Aliens known as the First Ancestral Race (FAR) exist billions of year ago. They cultivate life in the universe
>Send Seeds of Life (those moon things) to other worlds to kick-start evolution. They are put onto massive "Moon" like transports. New organisms formed from the seeds will get their souls from the extra-dimensional Realm of Guf, which contains FAR souls. So we are reincarnated FAR's.
>By rule, no two seeds are allowed to exist on the same world as they'd create a super being
>An accident happens, and the Black Moon that has the Seed that spawns "Fruit of Knowledge" (intelligent organisms) crashes into the world that already had the White Moon Seed that spawns the "Fruit of Life" (large, powerful organisms) land on it. This planet is preehistoric Earth. There is a catastrophic event, 1st Impact happens and the Moon forms from debris flung from Earth.
>As you can't have Fruit of Life-based and Fruit of Knowledge-based lifeforms on the same planet, the control mechanisms in the Seed (the Lance of Longinus) to prevent this goes into action. The Lance of Longinus on the moon containing the Fruit of Knowledge was destroyed in 1st Impact, so the Lance in the Seed containing the Fruit of Life seals itself. As a result, the Fruit of Life, also known as Adam, are put into stasis along with his offspring (the Angels). The Fruit of Knowledge, Lilith, inherits the earth and humanity forms
>Billions of years later SEELE finds the Dead Sea Scrolls, the "manual" on how the Seeds of Life work left behind by the FARs that was on each vessel. They get the idea to initiate the "forbidden union" between two different Seed lifeforms and become Gods
This is all explained in the files of a PS2 game that Anno sent notes to the developers. He was too lazy/crazy to put it into the actual seriers
>SEELE Engineers 2nd Impact by reawakening Adam, whose body has been buried under arctic ice for the last 4 billion years. Adam wakes up and decides he's gonna kill all Lilith based lifeform (i.e. humanity) and reclaim the planet for lifeforms based on him, the Fruit of Life. The Katursagi Expedition that woke him up manages to activate Adam's old lance of longinus, which shatters his body as it is trying to initiate 2nd Impact to wipe out humanity. Adam's physical form is reduced to an embryo state that Gendo later puts into his hand, his soul will be used to inhabit a human body and we get Kwarou later on
>2nd impact is stopped half-way, but still causes global upheaval. It also reawakens the developing Angels that were in stasis. When these Angels mature, they will seek out Adam's body which they think is under Tokyo. The Angels want to merge with Adam and initiate 3rd Impact to finally wipe out humanity. However this body under Tokyo is actually Lilith (who crashed there 4 billion years ago), so if they merged with it they'd do the forbidden union and create a god entity
>SEELE decides to initiate 3rd Impact: They develop the Eva's (clones of Lilith's form with a human soul) as vessels for their own souls. They want to initiate 3rd Impact while being merged with the Eva's which would apparently turn the Eva's into a God-like being while killing everybody else.
>Gendo wants to start 3rd Impact to meet Yui in the afterlife, this would be achieved through merging his Adam embryo hand with Rei (a clone of Lilith/Yui). It's unknown what would have happened to everybody else, but SEELE didn't want this
>In the end, Shinji is piloting the Eva's as 3rd Impact happens as Rei betrays Gendo who gets cast into oblivion as punishment. All human and angel-based lifeform complete their forbidden union and become a god-like gestalt single entity. However Shinji fucks everything up by making those who want to reject the union capable of reforming their bodies
>This is all explained in the files of a PS2 game that Anno sent notes to the developers. He was too lazy/crazy to put it into the actual seriers
Or maybe, just maybe, he pulled it all out of his ass because so many whiny autists couldn't tolerate plot points in the series being intentionally left ambiguous.
>Control + F
Why does Eva bring out the worst in people?