Will there ever be another Stand Alone Complex?
I've rewatched the first GiTS movie and Innocence, and even tried to watch ARISE, but it just doesn't feel the same. I don't know if its because of the benefits of being a series, but I feel SAC was really successful at making the
Inneruniverse Shirow wanted to depict feel really fleshed out. As of late I've been trying to find another show just like it. I watched PsychoPass and for a while it sorta filled that void for me (2nd season can go to hell though). I even started playing that First Assault game, although not bad by itself, it just makes me feel like I want to rewatch the entire series all over again...for the 2nd time.
I don't know if there's ever going to be another show of this caliber. I loved its pacing, and although while it did have many moments of political intrigue, it was all about how well Section 9 functioned as a team and how they seemed to overcome overwhelming odds (I still remember that laughing man episode when suddenly multiple people started attacking all at once claiming they were the Laughing Man).
Also Batou is the ultimate friendzone
Also dammit accidentally spoilered image in OP
When Adult Swim/Toonami was in one of its more decent phases, they aired GITS SAC on a loop. I probably watched it 4-6 times just DVRing every episode. Sometimes I'd skip through the lesser ones, but I'd still realize new information about the better or arc important ones.
Some of the "filler" episodes oddly enough filled in some backstory for some of the characters, such as the Tachikoma's being controlled via satellite.
Just hearing Chief Aramaki barking at me to capture the terminal already makes me want to rewatch 1st season all over again.
"I've got a surprise for ya!"
If she had fucked the shota or Kuze, I would agree with you. But SAC has Batou teases (the underwear drawer/weapons cache), a better Tachikoma arc, and the Major lounging with her lesbian lovers+ the hospital scene, so it wins.
>Some of the "filler" episodes oddly enough filled in some backstory for some of the characters, such as the Tachikoma's being controlled via satellite.
Yeah, and that's not a connection I necessarily make the first time. Maybe if I binged, but not week to week.
Too bad Kuze and the Major never got together...
I don't know whether to call Godah a great villain or not, but the Serano Genomics coverup felt pretty intense, and it wasn't like there was some sort of pin-point villain so it always kept people guessing.
The whole last arc of 2nd Gig was spectacular though. And blowing Godah's head.
All that's missing from the game is Run Rabbit Junk
SAC had a lot of ultimately useless scenes and more than half the series was filler. And I disagree about the tachikoma arc in SAC being better than in SAC 2. The tachikomas sacrificing themselves to destroy the nuke was perhaps the best scene across both GITS series
Bah, I've seen stranger things happen in my lifetime...Like a brand new Mad Max in which a cinematographer(?) came out of retirement to help out.
Both Season 1 and Season 2 are very close in terms of quality. It's not like fucking PsychoPass Season 1 and Season 2 where the difference is night and day. I prefer the series to Solid State Society.
I'm just greatful it isn't as terrible as the PS1/PSP games, or worse, copied the kind of practices PayDay 2 does.
I think you're reflexively rejecting the genre. Terminal is the best execution of a control points mode I've seen. The only really crippling factor is that the great character design screams for team building and communication, both of which are pretty limited right now.
There's a reason why 2nd Gigs OP gets a lot of homage.
WE RISE OR FAAAAALLLLLLL
Date of Rebirth is still the best Origa GiTS track
This. SAC didn't have a lot of character depth
but still a lot for an anime. And the other guy wants to remove what's left by taking out the sidestories?
Season 1 had that scene when Togusa was ready to flip his shit
SAC was fucking GOAT, I still rewatch both seasons every now and then, I cant really see a 3rd SAC ever happening and even if it did we wouldn't get any Origa tracks :(. Although I do enjoy some of the ilaria graziano tracks from SAC just as much as Origa's.
I liked SSS but it felt like wasted potential.
Still leagues better than ARISE.
I might be the only one who feels like something feels off with ARISE character design...
Enjoy your vast, infinite net.
What if Gen Urobutchi wrote the 3rd Season of SAC in conjunction with Shirow?
American Empire best America!
I'm still kinda miffed about Jungle Cruise I mean fine, we're a bunch of psychopathic killers who flail people alive, but why'd you have to go and make the Japanese-American agents a bunch of monstrous looking zombies?
Although it was kind of abrupt Godah's death was so satisfying, I definitely thought the fucker was somehow going to worm his way out of it and then they just blow his brains out right there.
I thought SSS was mediocre, it has some great scenes (the sniper duel with Saito) but for the most part it just felt like an unnecessary addition to SAC when 2nd gig had a fine ending as is.
I felt like I forced myself to try and enjoy it because after SAC that's all there was, it has nothing on the 2 SAC seasons.
Also while we are on the subject is this guy the original laughing man? Or just another copy without an original? He killed NANO-A and serano at the end and here he is spilling the beans on interceptors to togusa, he is an inspector on the laughing man case.
I wanna know how the liberal Marxist SJW hellhole Washington State ended up with the USA and not the Amerisoviet Alliance.
Another copy without an original. Didn't we see the uncloaked Laughing Man (as in the guy with the blue jacket, but he himself never called himself the Laughing Man) in series?
>Didn't we see the uncloaked Laughing Man
Yes that was Aoi, but he even said himself that he was a copy without an original and what spurred him on was coming across a blackmail email to serano genomics while surfing the net one day.
He gets a little bit when they're stealing the nuke about what his old job was, and he gets attention at varying parts, like when he gets his head fucked by the Individual 11 virus. Whereas Pazu gets an entire episode and then virtually nothing else.
Artstyle is the only thing wrong with it. It would have been nice if it explored WWIV's effect on society more. But there are only so many wishes we can have granted and "more GitS" was what we spent it on.
If you can't separate various versions of the characters from the one you ship, then stay away.
If you genuinely enjoy the setting and appreciate the characters as frames around which stories are told, go for it.
As I said, it has the best Bouma and Paz. Saito has development spread out across the series, which may be an improvement (although that one episode with the poker game is one of the finest "let's just give this guy one episode" ever, so it's a high bar to clear).
Does anyone else remember that scene in Arise where the Major shoots a rocket at that helicopter Saito is in and fucking blows him up, but then he's fine later? Was that ever explained? I mean it definitely looks like he dies.
It's got some really great scenes but for the most part it's mediocre with only a few bits that are bad. If you really love GITS it isn't a waste of time by any means and the attention some of the more ignored characters in SAC get is nice.
Otherwise, it hits all the notes of GITS.
>Major fighting past the point of dismemberment
>Major basejumping in urban canyon
>Major romantically involved with an antagonist
Since it's an origin story, there are opportunities to make meta-comments about the setting which are mostly tasteful.
It might of been different in Arise but in SAC they mention how Saito barely has any cyborg components other than his eye and one of his arms.
I'm pretty sure it's in the chase scene before that, yeah. I should probably rewatch arise since I don't remember most of it.
>Since it's an origin story, there are opportunities to make meta-comments about the setting which are mostly tasteful.
Like I say every time ARISE gets mentioned; would have been nice to explore WWIV and it's effects on society more.
He's a high-rolling alcoholic mercenary with PTSD from WWIV (whereas in SAC he was just a regular mercenary). Batou mentions in the ARISE movie that WWIV veterans get a lot of unnecessary cyberization (much like how a lot of USA Marines have huge cars).
Only engaging as a party to a UN operation underscores the geopolitical isolation of Japan from most of the externalities of WWIV.
ARiSE points to covert involvement in support of Japanese corporate interests, but even that seems to take place in the chaos of the immediate aftermath and is not indicative of a major role in the conflict.
I think SAC overall had the best outfits.
Maybe it's because of the trenchcoat look.