Which one was better animated?

>>137448236
OPM freelancer >>> kyoani forced animators

Nichijou isn't even KyoAni's best animated series. Both Nichijou and OPM falls into that SPEED LINES and STRETCHY BOLD LINES style too much when it's going for impact. Besides, OPM's animation quality only really goes up for fights.

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>>137448710

What the fuck? Nichijou of course. Why would you even compare the two?

>>137448236
I still haven't watched Nichijou so OPM.

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Nichimasterpiece is a literal masterpiece.

One Punchi Men is just another westabo garbage show.

Someone is actually taking this poll seriously and changed his vote

Nichijou was just a better production in every single way.

Nichijou was more ambitious and generally better animated. It was still a boring show though.

I don't watch moe shit so OPM by default.

I have barely been on 4chan for like what? 2 years?

So what the fuck is forced animation supposed to mean? Great animation for the sole novelty of having great animation?

>>137449771
Like love

>>137449666
>Satan's opinion
>Worth anything

Nice try but this is a Christian image board filled with good little girls. Your lies have no power here.

>>137449765
KyoAni has meme colorization, forced animation, autistic cinematography, and inauthentic sound design.

>>137448236
Nichijou, consistently.

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Chuu had better fights than OPM as well.

>>137448236
Every faggot here will pick the one that will make them seem edgy. So obviously not the "overrated" one.

>>137450231
OPMfag BTFO because Nichijou has better animation

>>137450280
Personal tastes in the end, bud.

Nichishit, but it was boring and flopped anyways

>>137449765
I take it to mean over-exaggerated animation since that's generally how it's used. It can also mean "animation I don't like because [insert reason here]".

>>137449765

I think I sorta get it. In most shows, during relatively unimportant scenes with just alot of talking, most studios have characters standing stock still with a minimum of movement if they can help it, for time and budget's sake. Kyoani's animation practices have them mostly insisting on body language or any sort of movement during these same scenes, and that expressiveness is one of the things that sets them apart from other studios. Sometimes that body language isn't so natural/sort of awkward or elsewise exaggerated though, and I think people want to call it forced as a result.

At least nichijou taught us that dynamic animation is no replacement for comedy.

>>137448236
I had to look twice when I saw the other option was OPM. This is not the usual debate, and this one's not even worth having. Nichijou wins, easily.

>>137450160
Why would anyone watch this garbage? It's like a parody of itself.

>>137451146
The fights in Chuu2 are imaginary.

>>137450322
Not that guy but I'm pretty sure animation is the one thing that can be considered objective. Usually it's things like art style that are subjective.

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Is this forced animation?

>>137451521
what?


Is that guy getting head in the background?

>>137451521
No, it's a visual gag.

>>137451521
They should've just had the VAs describe what happened. It'd be just as funny but without the embarrassingly showy animation.

>>137451521
It's funny how much they simplified the art in order to have semi-smooth animation. It's just straight lines, simple geometric shapes and an almost complete lack of shading.

Dennou Coil

>>137451836
And it looks great. Also, if you think "smooth" animation is what matters about Nichijou, you're blind.

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Free

>>137451956
Which episode is this from?

>>137451836
The manga art's pretty damn simple, I don't know what you're talking about.

>>137451956
I wish they animated Nagi no Asukara.

I don't really appreciate Nichijou's action-scenes that much compared to OPM's.
Overall it might look better though since OPM really isn't anything special outside the few scenes per episode they put effort into.

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>>137452044
5 I think.

>>137451930
Not really. It looks really boring, and they seem to have wasted a massive budget on unfunny visual gags.

>>137450641
>>137450952
So...Sakuga?
Hasn't that term been around for ages? What gives with this new term?

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Nichijou hands down

One Punch Man was pretty good though

>>137452217
Nichijou is anything but unfunny. It's actually my favorite comedy anime as far as this decade goes.

>>137452213
FREE!

>>137452243
That's not what the original japanese term means and it's not even what the western use of the term means.

>>137451897
This. You could argue Nichijou, but you'd be wrong. You can't even argue OPM.

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Well Nichijou that's because Kyoani is god levels above everyone in the animation department.

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>>137452301
u hav good taste

>>137449115
>that loop

>>137451836
I don't think this is a bad thing.

>>137452243
For baiting purposes obviously. And no not sakuga.

>>137448236
What in the actual fuck is this thread? Tired of powerlevels you faggots are comparing two totally different gag shows?

>>137452243
Nah, forced animation has no fucking meaning. It's something faggots say when there's nothing bad to be said.

>>137452774
It's basically forced bait.

>>137450160
agreed

>>137450873
>>137449451
>>137449115
>>137448982
not sure who made these webms but thank you

>>137452704
>I can't read
It's about animation, not the shows overall.

>>137449765
You'll know it when you see it.

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/786f4b05a982235816a1d2fca8532298.webm

Production costs:

>Nichijou
850 000 000Y

>One punch man
150 000 000Y


Everyone who voted Nichijou you can go change your answer now.

>>137451956
This might be their best animated show and it also proves you can't enjoy a show solely for animation.

>>137453115
>Everyone who voted Nichijou you can go change your answer now.
Better animation usually costs more.

>>137453115
OPM had a very modest budget and made it work very VERY well and is deserving of the win

The real answer is Hyouka.

>>137453115
Your ass seems like a questionable source.

>>137453201
I don't think it's better animated, but it sure is one of the most beautiful looking.

>>137453115
Literally irrelevant. Also almost certainly false, since I've never seen any source on Nichijou budget at all.

>>137453115
[citation needed]

>>137453426
Do you thing countries are bipolar when they vote for several parties to their parliament?

>>137453115
Source: your ass

>>137453077
god this hurts my eyes jesus christ

>>137453426
welcome to /a/

where we literally argue with people who love anime just as much as we do

>>137450952
>Kyoani's animation practices have them mostly insisting on body language or any sort of movement during these same scenes, and that expressiveness is one of the things that sets them apart from other studios. Sometimes that body language isn't so natural/sort of awkward or elsewise exaggerated though, and I think people want to call it forced as a result.
Girls und Panzer had a lot of that. It wasn't made by KyoAni though so the IRC trolls never caught on.

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>>137448236
I hate dubs, but I want Nichijou to get a dub so I can own it in a language I can understand.

>>137453077
it's like everyone is encased in a thick gel

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KyoAni is the objectively best anime studio and the only people who disagree are from /v/.

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>>137448236
>over 60% nichijou

>>137453077

I'm not sure I'd call that "forced" so much as just poorly executed. The hair movement seems to only affect one bit of hair at a time and doesn't really sync up with the movements of the head or body, so it seems like it's just happening for no reason and ends up distracting. The body language also feels jerky in a bunch of places, like the proportions suddenly slip out of whack or the frames aren't all there or something.

>>137453426
>/a/ is one person

>>137453873
If you're talking average animation quality, then yes. But animation isn't everything. None of my top 10 anime are KyoAni shows, and the only ones which get close are Hyouka and Tamako Love Story.

>>137454101
What are your top 10?

>ITT: Casuals try into Sakuga.

>>137453115
That sounds correct but obvious also, and more importantly has nothing to do with animation quality.

The budget is largely reflective of the cast (Nichijou used veteran VAs for stupid shit like those episode teasers) and the soundtrack (that orchestra was probably pretty expensive) and includes all production costs, not just the TV anime episodes, but the promo episode and all those character songs too. These two things are always the most expensive because of licensing and contracting being a real tough game. On the flipside, you can pay your in-house animators in cups of rice if you want. Fire them and get new ones if that doesn't work, right? Which leads me to my next point.

Animation qualty is largely reflective of the work conditions, but also obviously relies heavily on talent. The animators for OPM were famously running on pure passion, working overtime and shit just because they loved it. They were happy workers, barely "working" even, and it shows. Similarly, the staff at KyoAni is always talkign about how much they love everything they do. They're already rolling in dosh; they can just adapt/create what they want anymore -as opposed to "what will sell"- and it works because they make good shit that way.

As to the question at hand regarding the better animation quality between nichijou and OPM, I think it's clear. Both are stellar adaptations made by staff that loved a series immensisely and adapted it with love to make something even better than it already was. But you have to give the edge to Nichijou on animation quality because it maintains that crazy sakuga level basically all the time, and in OPM it's more just about the fight scenes, which definitely look great, but that great level isn't maintained throughout. Why would it be? Honestly, Nichijou is weird for this.

>>137451521
>Forced animation
"Why is there animation in my animated shows?! WAAAH!"

>/v/ and their buzwords.

>>137453832
LITERALLY WHY

>>137453115
How is this even releveant?
The question wasn't which one was more cost efficient.

>>137454220
I feel like you asked just so you could reply with some greentext sardonicism, but whatever. In no particular order:

Macross
Ashita no Nadja
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Monster
Samurai Flamenco
Brigadoon
Shirobako
Love Live
Yama no Susume
Gunbuster

>>137454413
"WAAH someone did a meme in my presence!!"
>responding to memers

>>137454503
Oh so you're a normalshit

>>137454503
>Brigadoon
At least you have the greatest love story ever told in there but you're still a massive faggot.

>>137454322
Why don't you enlighten us with your expert opinion?

If Kyoani has the best animation who is in second place?

>>137454613
Bones.

>>137454613
BONES

>>137454613
KyoAni, Bones is best.

>>137454613
>best animation

On average or what? Trigger has Imaishi at the helm so where do you rate them? I mean, I know he can't make anime for shit, but he sure can draw pretty well.

>>137454865
Based on consistency would be the best judgement.

>>137454995
Animation quality for talking head scenes is unimportant and wasteful if done beyond the bare minimum. Only the peaks matter. All that counts is how many unforgettable scenes there are.

>>137455145
>Animation quality for talking head scenes is unimportant
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-12-02/what-makes-kyoto-animation-so-special/.95559
tl;dr: You are wrong. KyoAni's complete command over subtle facial expressions and the emotions they can convey is one of their best features.

>>137455145
Kill yourself.

>>137448236
>http://strawpoll.me/6819022
Nichi, no contest.

>>137455248
That article is shit, and the writer has shit taste for not mentioning Hyouka at all.

>>137448236
>Strawpoll

fuck off, everybody knows how to hack that shit.

>>137455248
That guy almost makes it sound like he knows what he's talking about, almost.

>>137455842
That's better than most of /a/.

>>137456096
Not really, not, it's like that poster that makes huge posts with an extensive vocabulary expecting everybody to just read the first and/or last part and think he's right.

It's a lot easier to animate characters with no faces or noses

>>137456237
>characters with no faces

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>>137448279
>forced animators

>>137456668
Did I stutter?
>>137449451

>>137449765

Forced animation is a meme. You'll see people talk about forced animation every time Kyoani is brought up.

>>137456193
>it's like that poster that makes huge posts with an extensive vocabulary expecting everybody to just read
It sounds like you are describing an adult.

>>137449765
It's the same as artificial difficulty, it was a joke at first and then retards started taking it seriously despite the term not really meaning anything.

>>137448236
I wonder what would OPM look like if it was done by Kyoani.

>>137457546
It would be an adaptation of ONE's webcomic.

>>137457599
That one's actually way more funny

>>137457439
You're actually stupid enough to think artificial difficulty is a meme?

>>137453077
This scene wouldn't be as awkward if the character designs weren't shit.

OPM has greater animation highs, but it's not as consistently good relatively speaking compared to Nichijou.

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>hurr OPM is popular let's shit on it guys

>>137457439
That's a real thing, it's when a random number generator makes things difficult in a way completely independent of your skill.

I think it derived from "forced meme" which was going around for about a year prior.

>>137457857
Literally one of the few worthwhile scenes in the show. Nichijou was more consistent through its 24 episodes, maybe not as impressive as that, but overall better.

>>137457857
I know that it hurts your feelings to hear this, but Kyoani is considered to be, consistently, above average in the industry. Even their new show is awful, but it looks amazing.

Even that limbo scene.

>>137457857
I don't see how this is great. The scene where he punches the giant guy in EP1 is easily the best animated scene of that show.

>>137457857
Nichijou is probably as popular if not more than OPM.
It only look more popular because the anime aired last season.

>>137448236
>forced animation
>autistic direction
>meme series
Any other ones I should add?

>>137462423
your mom

>>137454555
We really need to find a new way to insult faggots. Normal-whatever has lost all meaning.

>>137455248
>actually posting a fucking ANN opinion piece
Fuck off.

>>137457857
>they don't think it's better animated than one of the best-animated TV anime ever, they're just shitting on it to be hipsters!

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>>137457930

27 episodes. 26+ova.

>>137449765
To those of you who still don't think forced animation is a thing...

http://www.talking-time.net/showthread.php?t=14002

From post 12: "One of the animation professors I had back in college was ex-Disney, he was a 2D animator who worked on a lot of their films for years and years. He started there in the early '80s when Bluth still worked at Disney, and he hated Bluth. He distinctly remembers Don Bluth having a group of friends/followers in a sort of clique in the animation department, who were very haughty and unpleasant to everybody else. The group also liked to 'outdo' each other with their animation, trying to trump each other with intricacy and stuff. The whole group left with Bluth when he did.

My prof still wanted to give him a chance and went to see Secret Of NIMH in theaters when it came out, but he walked out after about ten minutes. His reason: 'The damn crow wouldn't stop moving'. He always stressed how there was a time and place for certain animation and how animators needed to know when to NOT animate, and Bluth's over-animation of everything drove him crazy."

>>137449115
>>137450873

Mio would beat Saitama in a fight, no contest

>>137465231
Overanimation is a better term for what's being described here. Also the term is still immensely overused. Anime almost never does this due to their relatively low budget and just the culture of animation in general in Japan.

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