What would you guys say was Satoshi Kon's best project?
Planning on watching Millenium Actress for the first time tonight. I've seen every Kon work aside from this so I'll have my mind made up by tonight.
Milennium Actress - Best visual direction, ok characters and story
Tokyo Godfathers - Best characters, ok story, good visual direction
Perfect Blue - best balance of story, characters and visuals (all great)
Gonna rewatch Paprika today with my dad.
The plot was serviceable, but the animation's definitely what they wanted to have fun with.
Also Susumu Hirasawa needs to do more anime.
I can never get enough susumu hirasawa.
That's a tough call, OP. All I can say is that I think Paprika is his weakest work, and it's not as a result of anything he was responsible for.
Everything he did is worth watching.
Good lord Hirasawa is a fucking god. I dunno why but I've always felt his style would work perfect for a Cyberpunk work of fiction. What's the latest Hirasawa has done?
The thing that bothers me about Paprika is that this was a better treatment of the same concept.
Just watched it and I had the same reflections as last time. I don't think it's problem is style over substance, it's story over substance. It allows itself to create an elaborate story but it doesn't give it either thematic depth or more depth to the characters. Despite literally revealing the characters subconscious thoughts.
The animation was probably the best though, not talkinga bout visual direction in general, just the the animation spefically.
Watching anime with your father, I wish my dad was that cool
OP here. I'm excited to see how many people ITT love Millenium Actress. It makes me much more excited to watch it when I get home tonight.
Here is his one minute entry for Ani*Kuri 15, Good Morning.
There's not much you can do to tell a complete story in a minute, but it's absolutely beautiful and it captures waking up hungover and pulling yourself together at the start of the day.
Nah man, I'm a Quintanilla from Kingsville. Her dad's from Corpus Christi. Most Texans with that surname are descended from the King Ranch(Kingsville) Quintanillas, and Kingsville is like less than an hour away from Corpus.
I think my dad also said she's related to the Hernandez side of my family, too, though I've got no idea how. Genealogy's complicated as fuck down here.
The film was based on a 1991 novel by Yoshikazu Takeuchi and Selena died in 1995 so I don't think she was the direct inspiration. However her death would have been in the news when Kon was developing his version so it's possible there was some inspiration there.
>During an interview with Saldívar in 1995, reporters from The Dallas Morning News said her devotion to Selena bordered on obsession. Saldívar told employees at Selena Etc. she wanted to "be like Selena". According to an unnamed former employee, Saldívar was "possessive" of her relationship with Selena, and tried to distance Selena from the other employees. This person believed that Saldívar's goal was to "have more control over [the employees] and over Selena".
> As Selena tried to flee, Saldívar shot her once on the lower right shoulder, severing an artery and causing a massive loss of blood. Selena was critically wounded; she ran towards the lobby, leaving a trail of blood 392 feet (119 m) long. She was seen clutching her chest screaming, "Help me! Help me! I've been shot!"; Saldívar was still chasing after her, pointing the gun at her, and calling her a "bitch"
Holy shit. You might be right.
>mfw Kon's masterpiece isn't finished for another 30 years and ends up being half assed garbage
All are 10/10
That's dumb i have seen all of Satoshi Kons works and Paprika is amazing
...Is Paprika actually good?
After watching it, I had the distinct impression that if I didn't know about Satoshi Kon prior to watching it, that I'd have left confused and pissed off.
I enjoyed watching Tokyo Godfathers the most, but I think Millennium Actress is his best stylistic film.
Perfect Blue is just too raw for me. It's got his style all over the place, but I don't think he gets the pacing right on it, and there're way too many dream sequences that it just becomes tiresome.
Nah, all episodes are excellent, especially how all of them are interconnected.
I don't know. They both share 'be true to yourself' theme but took it to two different directions. Paranoia Agent was more 'Stop lying about the unsavory parts of yourself', and Paparika was more 'Don't be afraid to be your real self'.
>What would you guys say was Satoshi Kon's best project?
The Happy Family Planning episode of Paranoia Agent.
You know, it could be somewhat influenced because it was
the manager who did it. But that was it. The manager was a pop idol herself at one time and was living through Mima because Mima was much more popular and was still young and was against Mima trying to break her idol image to become a serious actress. You can say it was a serious critique of the maintained innocence that J-Pop Idols have to maintain due to make theirselves seem available to idol fans and the toll it makes on the idol mentally.
1. Paranoia Agent
2. Perfect Blue
3. Tokyo Godfathers
4. Millennium Actress
5. Good Morning short
No 9000 ranking because all of his works are fucking good. Him dying was fucking shame. Fuck cancer for real, senpai.
I will never understand the idol industry. There was that one that shaved her head in shame because the public found out that she had a boyfriend, and she had to apologize to them for lying.
Like, what the fuck is wrong with them?
OP here. I just finished watching Millennium Actres. Wow. What an absolutely brilliant work of art.
What's makes the ending of Millennium Actress even more tragic, in how
Chiyoko never fulfilled her goal in finding the man she loved before her death, is that Kon died under similar circumstances in that despite his endeavors he was never able to finish his last work, Dreaming Machine, yet both come to accept that and continue pressing on even in the afterlife.
So you know what? As far as my opinion is concerned on what the best Kon movie is now that I've seen them all, I just have to say that they are all beautiful. Each and every one of them. Kon was a genius and its a shame his life was cut so short when there was so much more we could have seen from him.
Rest in Peace, Satoshi Kon.
I competently agree with you
>yfw we lost a person who rivals the best in cinema
Satoshi Kon is the best of Cinema
That former AKB48 girl, I think? It's beyond crazy. I mean the closest the West ever been was Brittney Spears in late 90s and that's more like she was jailbait and there was speculation if her cherry was popped or not. East Asian idols are literally created to be shoujo/shounen characters and marketed that they could be your girlfriend/boyfriend for lonely idol otakus/netizens. So that meant that they couldn't date unless it's an innocent relationship that the fans has been clamoring for.
I can't find it but there was some footage of a J-Pop idol basically criticizing the fans' crazy-ass behavior about idols dating which led to bans for idols to date anyone or date on the down low, basically pointing out that they are losers who can't get girlfriends and she's suffering for it.
Perfect Blue is a really great critique on it. Because Mima's disassociation was in part of the blowback she suffered for appearing in racy stuff to break her idol image.
NOPE. NOPE. Cried bitch tears when I read it. Kon's death is the first time I felt so personally impacted by a director's death. Feels bad that the guy who is your favorite director dies young, man. Especially how he is influencing recent Hollywood blockbusters like Aronofsky's Black Swan and Nolan's Inception.
Feels kinda empty that we only have five works and a sixth that is incomplete and most likely not happening.
Yeah, Minami Minegishi. Except she is still part of AKB and was promoted to captain of the band.
It's pretty shitty that she was basically brainwashed into staying in the band and was forced to break up with her boyfriend.
I really hope she gets therapy once her idol days is over. It has to be some kinda hell that the dream you sacrificed a lot of becoming true become a gilded cage you never expected. And that shit fucks a person up real good.
I thought she got phased out considering that gigantic backlash. That video was very hard to watch. Poor girl.
I'll be real and say that I haven't re-watched his works outside the Good Morning short since his death because it makes you want more and you realize he isn't around to tell more stories and it's pretty crushing. That short was enough for me to get depressed about it because it was so Kon all over the place.
tfw no one to watch Satoshi Kon Films with
Man it's true. EVERY Kon work has to deal with one's perception of reality. It's the main reason why Kon only made anime. It was the one medium where he could truly express his style and aesthetics.
>He only wrote it, but Magnetic Rose is a staggering piece of work as well
He did some of the design and layout too.
I wouldn't be so surprised if he also helped Morimoto with the direction.
These threads always make me sad, Kon being my favorite director and Hirasawa being my favorite composer, makes me think about how we will never get a new movie/series of him with Hirasawa's touch.
We need a new ''Kon'', anybody, please.
I got something even better.
I mean, I love every single one of his works, but Watanabe is not a replacement for Kon.
I'd like to see a movie made by him though, I wanted one of Space Dandy but never happened.
He'll live up to the name someday, anon-kun.
I don't see a question mark so I'll gift you the glasses man once more.
Why didn´t he leave instructions or at least point out someone he trusted to finish the Dream Machine?
You better defend this statement
Tokyo godfathers used the enviornment so well in telling the story.
the characters are all developed by the end
Tokyo God fathers is one of my favorite films and I watch it every christmas