>Mid 2000s >Shonen big three dominate the anime landscape,

>the sun is going down
Are we seeing the end of the day?

>>137386128
And nothing of value was lost

Stop being a retard OP, please.

>>137386128
>One Piece
>ending
>ever

>fairy tail
>precure
>aikatsu
>ace of diamonds
>gintama
>pokemon
>shin-chan
>card fight vangaurd
>yu-gi-oh
>world trigger
>brave beats
>pripara

nah, you're just retarded op

>>137386587
Has WSJ finally stopped shilling Toriko?

>>137386128
>>137386355
The sun will set forever
Never to rise again
And in the coming darkness
We'll fight to the bitter end
The legend passed from memory
It's time to turn the page
The sun has set upon the shonen age.

>>137386620
yes, when the kicked it off the air 2 years ago, and replaced it with dragonball kai - buu saga

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>>137386128
>shitty shounen will cease to exist in your lifetime

>>137386128
Are we right now talking only about wsj?

>>137386128
>Are we seeing the end of long, ongoing series of anime?

No, and I'm afraid we're not seeing the end of faggot OPs either.

>>137386827
good riddance

I think long running shonen anime may be on the way out, especially since JJBA which is pretty popular but only just now getting a proper beginning to end adaptation is already about to start Part 4 of 7 finished Parts despite only beginning in 2012. It was a goldmine property for making a long running series and if they keep up their current pace of 2 seasons per Part then it'll be caught up to Part 8 in like 10 years. Coincidentally Part 8 will probably still be running in 10 years.

>>137386128
>Naruto ended with him as father and Hokage Boruto soon
>Luffy is nowhere near Raftel

>Ichigo
>A character
Pick one

>>137386128

Bleach started out great, then it got worse, then after the huge disappointment and rushed fight that was Gin vs Aizen and Aizen vs Ichigo and the creator not ending it and trying to milk it for money made Bleach irredeemable garbage.

One Piece was shit and will always be shit, I don't get why people like this autistic garbage with dogshit drawing and "art".

Naruto... was decent, garbage ending ruined it, Madara the main baddy getting cucked by some whore character goddess and replaced as the main baddy, sasuke and narutard both survive, non of them die, fucking kiddy trash tier ending, fuck Narutard.

They will continue to exist as long as they make money, even indirectly through merchandise etc.

>>137386620
>>137386677
is Toriko good?

Also big three doesn't include Dragon Ball since when?

>>137387701
since August 4, 1995 you fucking idiot.

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>>137387610
>Naruto... was decent,
Only pre-timeskip was good. The fights became asspulls.

>>137387610
Naruto's ending was ok, but the post-Danzo war arc was boring
Boruto on the other hand...

>>137387738
Pain Arc was the last relatively good thing

>>137387875
Dunno how you can call it good with that ending.
Also some filler was good, like Tenten's backstory

That image makes it look like Luffy has a long, bulging neck

>>137387896
Every fucking villain for some reason has to experience change of heart and become

>yeah, sorry

I hate this shit. Ruined everything.
But, not counting the ending it was good.

>>137387843

Ending was trash, either Narutard or Sasuke should have died.

>>137386128
>Are we seeing the end of long, ongoing series of anime?
Are you retarded?

I think you mean "the end of long ongoing shounen manga adaptations" which has been the case for the past like 3 or 4 years which you would know if you weren't such a newfag but long running anime will never die as long as anime companies still keep making kids shows

>>137386128
>Are we seeing the end of long, ongoing series of anime?
You are so new, lol. Lurk more.

>>137386649
Why poetry is so chuuni?

>>137388005
Not Black Zetsu

>>137387610
> I don't get why people like this autistic garbage with dogshit drawing and "art"

Because it have good themes? Also, nobody read manga because of art.

>>137388054
>as long as anime keeps making kid shows
You're acting as if they should make anime for any other demographic? Kids watch anime, adults read manga

>>137386560
Gotta milk that cash cow

>>137388186
What good themes? It's a generic as they come

>>137387440
That's mainly because the anime is so far behind though. If Part 4 was still going when the Part 4 anime started, you could expect filler out the ass.

I don't know why people have a such a problem with long running series. There are enough short manga/anime out there for you.

>>137386128
Its anime/manga and MMOs, the old days of spending months on the same game are gone. It's all about finishing one themepark and moving into the next.

>>137387610
>One Piece was shit and will always be shit, I don't get why people like this autistic garbage with dogshit drawing and "art".
It is always funny how easy it is to spot people who obviously never read a single chapter of One Piece

>>137386128
Nope, One Piece will still go on fo a good decade or so and will of course continue to dominate everything. You can be mad as much as you want but this is the truth.

>>137388323
>What good themes?

Read the manga again. And pay attention for the characters and their stories this time.

>>137388472
I think OP is mad because One Piece is the only one that is running, not because it's the #1.

>>137386128
SnK will take over, and whatever new popular shounen Japan shit out next

>>137388704
but snk is trash

>>137388483
>reading fighting scenes
This is some elaborate prank

>>137388818
>watching fights in a powerpoint presentation

>>137388402
It tracts the most cancerous people imaginable to anime and manga.

>>137388751
All battleshounen is trash.

>>137388883

That's because of popularity not because of them being long running.

>>137388751
Well we're not talking about its quality but the popularity

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>>137386128
>DBS, which is lackluster

Go fuck yourself with the business end of a rake, anonymous!

>>137387701
Toriko is fun if you don't mind its power creep and the fact that lately it's all GOTTAGOFAST and doing in a year what it could have done in 5.

>>137387610
Bleach sucking as an anime was less about story content and more about how they padded episodes with 10 minute recaps, nonsensical one off filler episodes every few weeks, and a filler arc that amounted to "the shinigami are fighting amongst themselves. Again."

>>137388186
>>137388435

When the mouth of the character is 2/3 of his face, I don't give a fuck what you have to say. Just looking at that autistic dogshit called One Piece triggers me, it is legit cancer with the worst cancer fans of any franchise of entertainment ever.

>>137389112
>I don't give a fuck what you have to say
pretty ironic. No one cares about your shit taste either

>>137388751

Attack on Titan is 100 times better than Dragon Ball (z/s), Bleach, Naruto and One Piece.

Welcome to reality fag.

>>137388853
better than black/white scanlated
I really hate it when mangafags make this argument.

>>137389173
>I really hate it when mangafags make this argument.
Because you can't refute it, powerpoint-fag.

>>137388962
Hmm that sounds like both something I'd like and hate.
But being fun is all that matters. I'll pick it up

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>>137389141

Take a look at the picture, this is what you are defending. One Shit (one piece) is the worst anime ever created, it is cancer and so are you.

>>137389199
>can't refute it
I just did..

>>137389226
The irony is lost in this post I'm sure.

>>137389173
One of the few animes that are better than the manga are Initial D. If you're not a faggot, you've seen it, and you should know why I say that.

>>137386128
One Piece has its bad moments but is still good. naruto was good until the end of the Pain arc. Bleach became noticeably less good after the Soul Society arc and turned into shit after the Arrancar arc. Now Hero Academia is a new battle shonen which is actually good with Black Clover, a shitty battle shonen popular nonetheless.

>>137389226
>One Shit (one piece) is the worst anime ever created

It's not Evangelion. Also, if you can't point an actual criticism to the manga aside from the bad art then your opinion is not take in count.

>>137389295
>one of the few
That includes Naruto. But you aren't capable of following a conversation and just barge in unannounced resorting to childish insults.

>>137389407
Not him but Naruto is shit either in mango or animu form.

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>>137389141
I do.

>>137389465
>not him
And you're also incapable of following a conversation yet feeling the need to butt-in. Can you at least read the comment train?

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>>137389521
Looks like you're a bit stressed m8. Calm down a little and then come back, it's no point burn your brain here.

>>137386128
In retrospect:
>Naurto still has an anime, it's also getting a sequel
>Bleach will probably get another anime, and it wasn't actually cancelled due to "low popularity"
>DBS has just entered its new content, effectively halting half the complaints it received

>>137389645
>ad hominem
>can't follow a conversation
>starts blogposting his unwarranted opinions

>>137387738
>eyepulls

>>137389735
And looks like you still want to fight your opinions instead of calming down and having a proper discussion. I'll not waste my time with this type of conversation, good bye.

>>137386128
Who would win out of those three? My money's on Nardo.

>>137389921
OPM

>>137386128
what about opm?
its published in shonen jump in the west atleast

>>137389936
But can OPM beat Uncle Grandpa?

>>137389921
>Implying it is even a competition
Naruto would probably try to ask them was cool and trendy among the young people

>>137390030
sure he can,all it has to do is air on toonami

>>137389921
Luffy would loose, since he has no reason to fight.
Apparently that is a thing.

>>137388265
>milking the cash cow

Anon I think you just don't know the differences between a long series and milking a series. Milking is what dragon ball z is doing. Continuing with a series when it's clearly over just because it use to popular , or the naruto anime adding filler just to prolong a series that's been over for a year now.

One piece is just long from all the content that oda had decided to add pre TS and now he has to wrap it all up. People would still be complaining if oda ended the series next year and left us hanging on a bunch of shit,plus ending it this early would mean he would basically have had to stop and not use the new world

>>137390201
plus oda said last year that he can keep on writing one piece for atleast another 10 years

>>137386587
>FT

Naw I think you just have shit taste anon, you might as well had put toriko on that list

>>137390201
From economic perspective it is still milking.
Oda could without any problems add two or three further islands without changing too much.
This is the advantage about having a pure exploration story.

>>137386649
underrated post.
I like you anon.

>>137389804
>fight opinions
You can't follow the conversation, that much was evident already. Nice strawman

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>>137387610

>One Piece was shit and will always be shit, I don't get why people like this autistic garbage with dogshit drawing and "art".


Confirmed for never having read a single chapter of the manga.

You can't possibly claim a 800+ chapter manga is consistently terrible and have read those 800+ chapters. Even the most ardent of Wan Piss haters at least have one arc that they thought was decent.

Right now there is only a big 2. One Piece and Dragon Ball, and the latter is being forced on us again because everything else failed to take the spot.

>>137390201
>, or the naruto anime adding filler just to prolong a series that's been over for a year now.
Naruto Filler is better than the original writing. You can't fault Pierrot for taking creative control when they're stuck with what Kishi decides to fart out

They have BnHA, the new Naruto.

>>137388501

This, pretty much.

>>137388883

kek, implying shit like FSN fanbase is better than Shonen fanbase. There's cancer everywhere when it comes to fans. Just avoid idiots and enjoy whatever you like.

>>137390488
>You can't possibly claim a 800+ chapter manga is consistently terrible
Why not? Length has absolute no guarantee it will ever turn good. This is a non sequitur.

>>137390538
And NnT, the new Dragon Ball (though it's not in Jump).

>>137389672

If Bleach where to get some sort of publicity, whether a new anime or movie it's ratings would go up on WSJ. Maybe not to the top 10 but it would easily pass the shit tier where crap like Toriko is comfortably sitting at.

I think lack of exposure has been the biggest killer for Bleach. Of course the manga itself has gone to shit over the years but in it's defense I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some other popularized series that still air at prime time.

>>137390490
What about Gintama?

>>137390685

Strong and steady, but not mainstream popular enough to be Big # material.

>>137390563
>There's cancer everywhere when it comes to fans
Try saying this about the Bokurano fanbase and discover it's not true

>>137390698
Are you sure? I always see it very high on rankings. Or maybe it was wishful thinking on my part?

How does Toriko get so much spotlight if no one actually reads?

>>137390488
Length just means that it sells well as your generic shounenshit.

Who the fuck would read 800 chapters of shit to prove a point? Fuck off

>>137390565

My point is that no sane person would slog through 800+ chapter of a manga if they truly hated every second of it. I'm sure there's some masochist out there who would but 99% of the time someone says shit like >>137387610 They are just blindly hating on something popular.

>>137390788
>My point is that no sane person would slog through 800+ chapter of a manga if they truly hated every second of it.
No true scotsman fallacy

>>137386649
Relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFpwIEfxBP4
Decent taste if you didnt copy pasted it

>>137390436
just because it brings in an abundance of money and it's a long series still doesn't mean it's milking. Really how many arcs can you really say in one piece wasn't needed? And of course he could add two or three more islands but not just because this is an exploring series but because the plot calls for it.

>>137390538

People keep saying this and I don't really see it at all. There's some similarities in the MC but it's no where near as emo as Naruto. It's actually doing right everything Naruto did wrong post-chunin exam arc.

>>137386128
I hope bleach gets animated again

>>137386128
One Piece still has like 10 years minimum.

and Bleach may be right near the end but god damn it's going at a snail's pace, we could be stuck in this arc for 2-3 years.

>>137390861
Give it time.

>>137390523
>naruto filler is good

Alright anon

>>137390685

It was doing fine until Sorachi decided to drag this final "serious" arc for almost a year now. Gintama always does it's best when it's either on comedy arcs or short semi-serious arcs.

>>137386415
/thread

>>137390900
>reading comprehension

>>137390784
>haven't even read it
>thinks he has claims to an opinion on it

Just came here to say check em

Pirates of Caribbean is better than One Piss ;^)

>>137390975
But I have anonkun

>>137386128
>Are we seeing the end of long, ongoing series of anime
Pokemon, Precure, Yokai Watch, Sazae-san, Chibi Maruko-chan, Crayon Shin chan, Doreamon,

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>>137386128
>the_shonen_jump_big_3

Detective Conan
January 8, 1996 – ongoing
807+ episodes
But published in Weekly Shōnen Sunday so it doesn't count?

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Anybody else remember when the last chapter of Naruto came out and Kishi confirmed One Piece was the superior mango?

Nardofag tears where especially salty that day.

>>137390853
>Really how many arcs can you really say in one piece wasn't needed?
Skypia and little garden for example could have been, with some rewriting completely removed, and before you start bitching, I don't say he pulled those out of his ass.
>because the plot calls for it.
Most of the time the plot was secondary. It was more like "Hey a new island, let's go explore. Oh, there are some villains, let's beat the shit out of them." and more and more the straw hat got their reputation steering up some enemies and also made some friends.
In the end what happens on those islands never really change the main course, which is one direction, towards One Piece. The only problem is getting strong enough to overcome any barriers and enemies.

>>137391212
>confirmed
I don't think he ever pretended his manga was good. It's just easy karma to refference pop culture

>>137391246
Just don't reply.

>>137391314

There was a time when Naruto was pretty good. I think it went to utter shit after Rescue Gara. I'd say it's mostly due to Kishi's obession with Uchiha and lazy asspulls especially in zombie war arc.

>>137391212
>One Piece
>Aho
I conclude out of this picture, Kishi thinks, Oda is an idiot.

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>>137391212
Kishi and Oda are buddies in real life (according to various interviews between them) so I don't really see that, there's also this chapter of One Piece where Oda was referencing Naruto's last chapter.

>>137391397

Maybe sour grapes; but he did do an SBS with Oda after Naruto was finished and literally said Oda's manga was the better manga.

>>137391394
I just think he stopped trying. But realistically he never was good.
I mean chapter 1 has Naruto stealing some secret scroll. And his parents spent about 5 minutes talking to eachother during the Kyubi incident.

>>137391420

I know that, just busting some balls. There was a huge wave of butthurt that day from Naruto fans misunderstanding that it was just a simple homage between rivals.

>>137391420
>buddies
They're co-workers...

>>137391394
Also the fact that Kishi was exhausted with Naruto at one point and wanted to end it but the Jump boss told him to continue.

>>137391443

True but at least back in the early years I was entertained. Can't say that about Shippuden.

>>137391420
>Originally, Oda planned on drawing little lines on Luffy’s face like Naruto’s and other hidden details like that, but it just so happened that the Corazon flashback was still going on at the time of Naruto’s last chapter, making Luffy’s appearance impossible to integrate.
Oda really is a Narutard

>>137390843
What do you mean copy paste? It's obviously from that song

>>137391495

Yeah same thing happened to Toriyama with Dragonball.

>>137391524
The fights were good, the bridge and ninja exam were good. That's all that matters.

>>137391546
No he's not. Please learn what co-workers are. And what PR is. Please understand why TV hosts invite eachother to their shows. It's not because they're 'friends'

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>>137388907
Wrong.

>>137391718
feel apart at wannabe cell games

>>137391718
thanks for proving his point

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>>137391605
Just admit it.
They are the best buddies; Good friends; two amigos.

>DBS is unpopular

Look at him and laugh.

>>137390436
You really don't know where expanding ends and milking starts.

Don't talk in absolutes.

>>137386128
So why did the Bleach anime end?

>>137391907
Man, you're like a literal child that actually believes grown adults read other people's children's stories through rose-tinted glasses.

>>137390436
Even when they go to different islands every time the story is still directly connected to the overarching plot, more so now than ever.

>>137387701
>Toriko
>>137388962
>Toriko
I want gaia to leave.

>>137392009
To make place for the Naruto spin-off
So that Kibe can catch up I genuinely expect a season 2. It's really popular in the wst, it's just that Tokyo Ghoul is currently more popular.

>>137392090
not contributing

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because the Bleach animu had already produced an immense amount of filler and the studio got tired of it. Consider how long the nazis have occupied heaven and then consider that studio piorot would've had to have been making filler waiting for the final arc to end this whole time.

>>137391605
Dude, they were each other best man during their wedding

>>137387610
Madara was shit.

>>137392195
that's pretty gay

>>137392072
>Man, you're like a literal child
Says the one I guess who insists that both are no friends, because.
It's just hilarious that minor shit like that pisses anon off so much, as if Oda would be tainted or something, by being friends with Oda.

>>137392291
>by being friends with Oda
Of course I meant Kishi. My bad.

>>137391397
No it is just Naruto making fun of himself.

>>137392291
God what's with all the presumptions?

>>137392326
Kishi is my dad.

>>137392388
Like this one? >>137392384
Or this one? >>137391605

>>137392441
No, I'm asking you.

>>137387738
Well if you cut out all the filler and get the gist of the flashbacks then skip them you got a decent shoenen

>>137392458
I just tried to make sense, why it is so bad when two mangaka of the same publisher are friends.

neverending shonenshit is pretty much the worst kind of anime. at least battle harem has titties on the bds and fans don't unironically use the word "nakama."

ITT no one knows what they're talking about

>>137389159
Here's your (you).

>We will never get adult version of Ichigo and Luffy

>>137394777
Luffy is an adult.

>>137392581
>cut out all the filler
then you get a rather inconsistent story, I'd actually recommend some of the filler

>>137392582
I never said that. Why is it bad?

>>137395677
>>137394777
>dubs trips
Mentally wise neither of them will ever be adult. You can slap an age on them all you want.

>>137386128
Naruto ending was a mercy (though the Burrito part 3 monthly will probably end up weekly), Bleach needs to fucking wrap it up already, and OP has been mostly shit for the last 5 years (since Impel Down/War).

If you can't get enjoyment out of some new series like NnT/BnHA/whatever though, you've probably just outgrown battle shonen.

>>137387610
>Naruto... was decent, garbage ending ruined it
Pain was basically the last time Naruto was good for any length of time, and Shippuden before that had already been fucked over by excessive amounts of the Sasuke subplot that no one expected to drag on for the whole manga.

>>137386128
> the other had a discontinued anime due to low popularity
It was mostly because the studio making it tried to jew us too hard.

>>137388186
I read manga because of art too, manga are drawings and art is very important.