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Griffith did _____ wrong?
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everything
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>>137345765
Doggie style
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He seriously did everything wrong, I really dislike Griffith apologist.
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Did he really have the hots for Guts?
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Griffith is irredeemable.
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>>137345835

>He seriously did everything wrong

overstatement, he did some things right.

like everything during the golden age
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Was it ever explained why there are so many giant guys in beserk

like bazuso and shit, those guys are hueg
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>>137345922
Giant guys where normal in medieval life.
Males at the age of 6 where already expected to work in heavy labor in the cities. How do you think stones in castles and churches are artistically placed?

You should read a real book from time to time.
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>>137346203
Are you seriously retarded?
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>>137346267
Yes, anon.forget what I said, they obviously had machines in medieval life,
Not a push card and rope to carry and lift stones
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>>137345765
something
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Griffith pleases old men for money!
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>>137345765
Some things.
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>>137345765
A lot of things wrong. Most things, in fact.

It's been awhile since I read it and I'm a lil slow on comprehension, but why exactly did Griffith rape Casca at the Eclipse ? I never understood that part. I thought the whole thing about Femto was supposed to be like escaping humanity and his failures, and later he acts as if Guts is completely worthless to him, so why did he take the time at the Eclipse to do something that was seemingly very out of character for Griffith AND Femto? I mean, what was the point, they were both supposed to die there anyways unless he somehow knew they'd get saved? They both would have been dead if the apostles just killed them and didn't waste time on torturing them. Seemed like it was just added to be unnecessarily edgy.
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>>137346453
Just to spite Guts, maybe.
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>>137346453
He's a dick.
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>>137346453
Out of spite. I believe be was completely aware of what he was doing.
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They work for the mercenary
The black swordman
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>>137346453
He tried to rape Casca before the eclipse
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>>137346635
No he didn't
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>>137346724
Except he did
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>>137346453
He knew they were to die, but he wanted one last revenge against Guts, as the true asshole he was.
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Griffith is doing this for his dream, and will turn on the God Hand if they get in his dream's way (which they will do).
Prove me wrong.
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>>137345765
Casca
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>>137346724
Yes he did you retard
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>>137346362
Wow you actually are retarded, doing strenuous work as a child actually stunts growth and that the Romans as well as many other medieval civilizations were actually shorter with the average male being 5'6-5'7.
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>>137347065
Agreed, and stuff like lifting/working out isn't even recommended for a youth until he's prepubescent minimum.
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>>137346863
>>137347034
He couldn't hold a sword with his crippled arms and you think he attempted to rape her? He just wanted a hug, some warmth for his broken body.
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>guts got cucked twice

poor guy
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>>137347118
Wow. I can't believe I completely misunderstood that entire scene. Griffith did nothing wrong
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people here are worse than griffith
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>>137346916
He will never turn on the God Hand because even if it's planned the plot will never progress that far.
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>>137347118
And he definitely didn't try to strangle Guts the first time he saw him in the torture chamber right? His body may not have had the strength, but the intent was there.
>>137347141
>cute boy holding his cute retard mom. jpg
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>>137345765

Nothing. I would die for Griffith and so would his friends.
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>>137347118
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its a cartoon
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>>137345765
Griffith did nothing wrong
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>>137345922
for you
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>>137346399
he was young and needed money

and not just for money but for a lot of money
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>>137347317
>>137347359
Suddenly after the year of suffering you see your old friend breaking the door to your cell. Wouldn't you want to touch him with your own hands to see if it isn't an illusion born of your tortured mind.
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>>137347479
Is that why he went for his throat?
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>>137347558
Because he couldn't lift his fucking tendonless arm higher.
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>>137347359
I never really thought that Griffith was trying to strangle him. Huh. Why though? Because Guts left him?
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>>137347593
Because Griffith is a weak, spiteful man who blamed his situation on Guts.
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>>137347593
he can't take responsibility for his actions
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>>137346203
>>137346362
People were actually shorter in medieval times. One example of that is how the ceilings and doorways were way lower.
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>>137345765
Nothing
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>>137345880
>lol some guy left
>let's fuck the princess and everything up lmao
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The princess
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>>137345835
Can you fuck up with the
>muh opinion is fact
It's literally tumblr tier of feminism
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>>137349150
Fuck off with your boogeyman you retard.
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>>137349321
? stop moving the goal posts
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>>137349335
Do you know what you're talking about?
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>>137349595
Stop moving the goal-posts.
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Holy shit, is Hawk dead or something? A whole 52 posts about her husbando and not a peep from her. I"m shocked
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>>137349656
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
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>>137349744
Stop strawmanning.
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>>137349744
stop replying to attention whores
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If guts had died in a normal battle, would griffith still become a emo bitch and fuck the princess?
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>>137347593
At this point he hates Guts as much as he loves him, and it is a lot.
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>>137350017
It might cause him to take some other shortcut at the expense of his reputation, but I think it would be through violence rather than sex. He'd probably make everyone use a giant sword and dress them up like Guts and hold a tournament to figure out who the next Black Swordsman will be.
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>>137345765
>:]
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>>137347115
>>137347065
>le lifting stunts growth meme

Fuck off, there is no scientific evidence to support that claim.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21178368
People in medieval times were shorter due to shit nutrition and likely lack of sleep.
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>>137346453
It was part of his Dreamâ„¢.
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>>137351230
>high-intensity and/or resistance training might hinder growth and maturation in young children.

Says it right there in the abstract, bro
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>>137351460
>At present, there is no scientific evidence to support the view that high-intensity and/or resistance training might hinder growth and maturation in young children.

How about you read the whole sentence, m8
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>>137351509
I did.
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>>137351534
So what was the problem? Did you not understand what it said?
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>>137351577
lol
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>>137349678
Hawk was confined to a mental hospital for a while.
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>>137348508
losing your best and most reliable unit in strategy games normally feel pretty bad to be fair with Griffith.
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How do we hurt Griffith in the way he hurt Casca and Guts?
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>>137353999
ruin his dream.......w/ a nightmare....
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>>137345765
plenty, it should be plenty wrong. He did some things right, him going from a poor street orphan to basically a noble and bodyguard of the king was pretty damn impressive, he then fucked everything up because he lusted so much after Guts that he couldn't handle him leaving. Seeing Guts with Casca was the final straw that broke the camel's back. I always figured that him raping Casca wasn't just as revenge against Guts, he also wanted to punish Casca for in his eyes "stealing" Guts from him.
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>>137352544
Seriously?
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>>137355922
Yes, I know her personally and I can confirm this.
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>>137345765
>Griffith did _____ wrong?

one thing he did one thing wrong

maybe two i personally dont think claiming casca was wrong just the princess and thats not even wrong she wanted the d hard
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>>137346453
i think the casca raping was more like claiming her from guts more of a bold display of authority
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Charlotte
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Guts aka That One Anime Where a Rape Happened
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>>137357185
Read Wolf Guy, literally 12 chapters where the main heroine is gangraped and mindbroken by the bad guys, it's not even implied, you see all of it. Imagine if Casca's rape was 12 chapters long.
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Griffith did somethings wrong but Femto did nothing wrong.
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GRIFFITH IS LIFE. I can't stand we're gonna have to wait like 2 years now just to see him and Falconia again.
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>>137353298
Pretty boy just didn't want to have to grind up the scrubs and/or git gud himself. Chasing after poon you shouldn't because things didn't go your way is pretty bitch-tier, frankly.
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>>137346453
it was him physically saying "fuck you" to guts and guts' happiness in life.
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>>137356596
kill yourself
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>>137345807
First post, best post.
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>>137353999
Guts has to rape his kingdom in front of him.
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>>137347141
Isn't she just attached to neo-Griffith because he has her demon child inside him?
It wouldn't make sense for her to remember Griffith positively when she can't do the same for Guts who didn't even do anything bad to her.
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>>137357471
Femto was in control during the Eclipse; raping Casca should be the one thing that everyone agrees Griffith did wrong.
>>137359689
Correct, she's only reacting to her child.
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>>137345765
time his sex with the princess
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>>137345765
choose his vessel
It's so going to bite him back in the ass eventually as Guts eventually gets around to murdering him to save the world.
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>>137360155
Can't he turn into Femto when he wants? Or at least transform into Femto if his vessel is destroyed?
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>>137360155
>implying Guts will kill the Griff
>implying Miura ever finishes Berserk
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>>137360296
To be honest, at this point I'm not even sure death in the conventional sense exists for beings in Berserk.
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>>137360194
Pretty funny
>>137360296
The cursed child is a part of the vessel that Femto/Griffith manifested into when they came into the physical world (during the World Transformation. We know exactly that much. We don't know if Femto can leave the physical realm outside of dying, right now.
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I don't trust Griffith at all, he can go make a kingdom of safety for humans, but he only made it after transforming the entire world into a minor hell for all the rest of humanity.
Humanity is saved in Falconia, his armies will save the people around him, but that's at the cost of fucking up the world, and he knew what would happen.
I don't even trust him dealing with the souls of the dead, he shows them around to their loved ones, but I still feel Griffith uses them for something else.

He can pretend to be good all he wants, but deep down he's Femto who raped Casca for no good reason, I can't see anything good coming from him.
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>>137347193
this
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>>137360594
It doesn't help that right now the physical realm isn't exactly separated from the rest.
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>>137360296
If his vessel is destroyed only Femto is left, but Femto without the vessel cannot exist in the world of forms.
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>>137362034
He will just be around formless or something, or so it was before the world transformation, after that it's probably easier for him to manifest.
Or so I think, I got really confused after the world transformation.
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>>137362366
Even Slan needed a vessel in the intersection, post griffiths big fuck the world
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>>137349150
>stating the antagonist of the series did antagonistic things = evil tumblr feminist agenda bogeyman
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All I know is I want to have sex with that kerrigan bitch. Is the queen of blades from starcraft based off slan or whatver her name is?
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>>137362872
No, Slan was before the BIG fuck the world. Guts was already on the boat when that one happened, remember?
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>>137360651
i like to think griffith is planning on sacrificing everyone in falconia for whatever purpose. if sacrificing the band of the hawk allowed him to become femto, what will sacrificing an entire city cause?
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>>137362872
What I said was from what Slan said.
It was from before the fuck up, she needed some form, but she couldn't manifest herself directly.
She said the other God Hands are formless too, wandering around.

But after the fuck up, the rules might change, and they might be able to manifest directly, I don't know.

>>137363193
Well, we have to take one thing into major consideration.
Griffith/Femto still has the goal of acquiring a kingdom, if at one point he sacrifices Falconia, it will most likely be for a step in gaining a larger kingdom, otherwise, he won't destroy a part of his dream for no simple reason.

But the theory of sacrificing Falconia still appeals to me, since I have no trust in Griffith.
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>>137363482
After the eclipse-like event the godhands were spread across the different planes; they needed the World Transformation so they could all come to the physical world.
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>>137363619
>After the eclipse-like event the godhands were spread across the different planes
Yeah, I just reread that part, I thought it had nothing to do with the pseudo-Eclipse, but call me retarded, I still don't get why that happened.
The Eclipse didn't seem to change the world, it just gave Femto a vessel by how it appeared.
Or was that enough disturbance in the balance that it caused some slight merging?

>they needed the World Transformation so they could all come to the physical world.
I was going to ask why we still haven't seen any of them manifest in the real world, then I remembered that since that event, we didn't really get that much progress or content, and it was hinted at when they were shown after the fuck up (The part where a dragon and other mystical creatures start appearing).
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>>137363940
>Or was that enough disturbance in the balance that it caused some slight merging?
It was, in the first chapter after the tower, it's mentioned that from that, a ripple was created and the world started to change.
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>>137364084
Oh, you're right.
It's even talked about in the start of the next volume, guess I'm just retarded.
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>>137360594
>Griffith (corrupter)
In civilized company, we call that the abusive stepdad.
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>>137364691
Yeah, I guess so.
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N O T H I N G
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Do i need to read through the golden age if i saw the movies?
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Is this series gonna end?
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>>137350130
I do not think Griffith is capable of love. He is merely possessive, and he was angry at Guts because he was the first person who steadfastly said "no".
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>>137367864
you should, movies leave out some stuff
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