There are people saying there's a middle line between them, what exactly is it?
What is Alibaba's plan?
I don't know about Alibaba's plan but my plan is to get a shoulder rub from Gyokuen.
But there is no such thing as 'pure' anything when you deal with Human beings, period.
Communism only works if you assume that human beings are intrinsically good, and while some are, most are not.
As for freedom, you have no freedom, you spend all your time working for the good of the community, as the system would quickly fall apart if everyone decided to go off and become writers or artists or any other non-essencial tasks.
>the system would quickly fall apart if everyone decided to go off and become writers or artists or any other non-essencial tasks.
No that's a particularly capitalism.
Communism or socialism doesn't have a problem with career choice because the community or government decides what you do, no one can become an artist because it's useless and you probably wouldn't have been good either.
Communism's problem is because it by nature doesn't allow people to freely chose professions based on personal preference, pay or ability, a lot of people who may be more talented at another things are made to perform work at something they're less talented at and that's inefficient.
A basic sociology course would reveal that success is dependent also on other factors than personal effort, but I guess that a simplified individualist ideologies are easier to sell to idiots and they also perpetuate inequality for the benefit of the elites and are generally edgy, like the American society.
Nah capitalism is alright as long as it's not pure capitalism.
Otherwise everyone would be dying in factories at 2 cents an hour to buy food with poisonous rats in it and paying 3 lifetime's wages in hospital fees.
>but I guess that a simplified individualist ideologies are easier to sell to idiots
That isn't true.
I come from a third world country and from what I've seen, its far easier to sell "I WILL GIVE YOU THIS AND THIS AND THIS FOR FREE WHILE TAXING THE RICH!!!"
And they do it every single fucking time (vote) for the politicians who say those promises and they're still poor. Because companies can easily pack up and leave countries now due to globalization and free movement of capital (thank you free trade agreements! *sarcasm)
Europe is basically a socialist paradise, where military spending is way below the necessary 2% of GDP required by NATO, and yet youth unemployment in even German is 8 percent. France is 23%, Sweden (glorious socialist paradise) is 19%, Denmark is 10 percent, almost every country along the Mediterranean is 50 to 60 percent. Eastern Euro countries generally hover around 20 to 25 percent.
And even in those countries, the elites have a lot of wealth and power.
Eliminating greed seems pretty stupid. You have to control greed, not eliminate it. If people weren't greedy, everyone would be similarly poor. If you have nothing to be greedy for, you slack and lose ambition. This was very common in Soviet Russia.
The lowest level in Magnostadt, people enjoy free stuff and sex, i dunno what is the real world equivalent of sucking magoi in return.
I feel like its the most workable system
The point was made that 'pure' communism grants you freedom, if the state is telling you exactly what you are doing then you are not free.
Capitalism doesn't have everyone fuck off to do useless jobs en masse because they would quickly starve to death or quit and go back to a job that they are actually good at.
Living in the slum while ill all the time. Having no perspective, a short life span and coming across corpses on the street to remind you all the time what awaits you.
But hey, free sex and prison food.
I just put catch up with Magi.
I have a doubt, who is the real protagonist of this story?
Before starting it I thought it was Aladdin, but after reading it I think it is Alibaba.
Aladdin is in the foreground only when Alibaba is not present. So basically Aladdin is in the foreground for a very short time compared to Alibaba. When they are together is Alibaba to take all decisions and performs the role of leader. From what I've seen this story serves for Alibaba training as complete character.
Or is a choral manga? Since many characters have their own space?
Why the confusion? Koha is clearly fuckable.
>Dat growth spurt
>that feminine body
I would that feminine D
>Dat shameless and rampant abuse of his high diplomacy modifier
>Dat rules lawyering
>Dat clever use of magic outside of combat
10/10, would party with this 100+ years old virgin again.
He's more likely to settle for Yunan
>slaughter half the continent
>try to take over the entire world
>Hakuryuu mercifully doesn't remove their heads, lets them live in a fishing village in peace
>this is the same Hakuryuu they put an evil magic curse on and battered around
>Sinbad, who they and their pet organization tried to kill and declared war on his country for no reason
>lets Kou continue to exist, doesn't even put an embargo on them
>Kou can't do anything of value, have absolutely nothing to offer anyone
>go broke immediately because they're too retarded to into commerce
>cry to Sinbad to give them mercy and free money
>get a 12 year old kid to emotionally blackmail and guilt trip Sinbad on their behalf
>hey guys communism is great, it's just never been tried
>russia wasn't real communism
>cuba wasn't real communism
>venezuela wasn't real communism
>Maoist china wasn't real communism
>guys listen to me, I have an arts degree
They're probably just upset bestshota hasn't reappeared yet. No one wants to read about how retarded fish et al are and magicbaba's asspull death defying eye hax.
Mate, if you remove the magic part of that summary, that's post WW1 Germany in a nutshell. However, this time around, they choose John Keynes instead of Hitler to lead their economy out of the shitter
Technocracy, and it's probably the worst system.
Except Germany has excellent manufacture and commerce and has always had a strength of scientific knowledge and progress.
Kou are retarded ants who can't create anything of worth. All they can do is swing a sword.
/pol/ hates happy redditors and tumblrites, which defaults on loving trump and hating sanders.
But they don't hate sanders as much as they hate hilary because she's propped up by feminists and they hate those more than reddit and tumblr
So they love trump and begrudgingly hope for sanders to win the democratic vote so he can get crushed by their god emperor trump in the main election. Also the memes.
No anon. Post WW1, Germany economy was in the massive shitter due to the Versailles Treaty. They were in a massive depression and had a huge debt obligation to virtually everyone. They also had a huge military presence since it was a conditional surrender but due to, again, the treaty, those soldiers couldn't do any sort of military stuff not were they trained for civilian work.
Hold on. Not to derail but you're ten kinds of wrong. We hate shillary because she's an establishment puppet, selfish, greedy, and has a bad attitude. She's also an incompetent idiot on top of it.
Sanders no one hates, he's just an idiot and his math is garbage. If anything we feel sorry for the little cuck.
Last part is correct.
>happy redditors and tumblrites
If they're happy, why are they always whining and shrieking? Again, not to derail, just to inform you that you're wrong.
I'm aware they were in economic straits, but for entirely different reasons. Kou took a loan, of its own volition, and is whining they have to pay the interest which is duh obvious you would. Germany got hammered with paying for rebuilding all of Europe, even though they didn't even start the war. No one asked Kou to rebuild Balbadd.
Second, Germany still had impressive technological and scientific research coming out. They were also the best at manufacturing certain things, especially technical and mechanical. They were far from useless. Kou literally can't make anything and they don't have airship construction factories or fuck, even their boats are sucky.
Kou started the war and it was entirely their fault. Germany didn't start shit, they got dragged into it by an ally.
>tells women that didnt vote for me that they have a place in hell
She's playing the woman's card terribly.
I honestly don't get the hate for Hillary. I mean, if she was as incompetent and corrupt as people say she is, then why weren't the Republicans able to indict her for anything despite the massive multi million dollar and countless amount of manpower, spread over several years, of investigating her? Either she's so competent that she successfully removed all trace of her crimes (which actually makes her the best choice for being president) or she's unbelievably clean (again, best person for being president). And you can't even say the government is trying to protect her since the Republicans are in control of both the House and Senate.
Dude, the FBI is literally about to throw the book at her.
One, she has a lot of family money. Rich and powerful.
Two, it's actually really fucking hard to build a criminal case against anyone, and if you have a high profile politician it's even worse. Cops let red handed criminals go all the time because our legal system is set up that you need to have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to throw anyone in the slammer.
You're pretty ignorant, aren't you? Read a book. I mean, shit, we couldn't even throw literal crime family ringleaders in prison until the IRS got him for tax evasion. "hurr durr if they're not in prison they must be clean." You're retarded.
Except the treaty basically prevented them from using said industry, and massive depression means little to no funding to the science sector. It was only after Hitler came to power and said 'fuck the treaty', did they restart their industries , unilatetally negated their loan obligations and jump-started their economy again. Before then, Germany was in really horrible shape, like Kou was prior to Alibaba.
Again, Republicans in control of both House and Senate, massive amount of money and manpower thown. Even Bill Clinton has gotten a impeachment hearing for something as minor as getting a blowjob when the Republicans went full retard about it. How the hell can they not even get an indictment out of her despite all the supposedly massive amount of corruption?
Right, right. Tell me then, how did Bill Clinton's impeachment trial ended? Him still being president and his approval rating higher. Seriously, if they went after Bill despite the absolutely flimsy of evidence about him lying about getting a blowjob, how the hell could they not go after Hillary, whom they've been claiming with an absurd amount of accusations of corruption?
Aladdin is eternally cute, but baba a worst boy. Worst. Pic related--suffering is cute.
Baba-centric kou redemption arc -- boring, nothing happens
Hakuryuu-centric kou annihilation arc -- enjoyable and exciting.
Hakuryu and Morg having a child during timeskip cause she's constantly watching him and probably showed some pity then love during his toughest moments.
What's your take anon?
Would fap. I wonder what kind of education Sinbad really gave Hakuryuu. But no really, would ship that. No way they spend 3 years together in Where with his constant wooing her and she doesn't give it up. They'll be how old, early 20s? Hormones and horniness.
is technocracy like pic related w/ probably the crime coeficient thing
Well right now Comey (the Republican Director of the FBI) and Clinton basically have each other held at gunpoint. Comey wants to indict her, but if he does, a Brooklyn Judge
that just so happened to be appointed by Bill Clintoncan utterly ruin Comey for money laundering when he worked for HSBC.
The whole situation is corrupt as hell.
Rope for everyone. It's a rope christmas.
Have cute Magi-related image. Thread is depressing.
Look at this faggot with his shit taste.
Right...., because clearly the Republicans are now afraid after nearly collapsing the world's economy through their debt ceiling crap or after actually impeaching the president. Because somehow, someway, the wife of an ex-president requires more discretion than when they went after the president himself. Do you know how retarded and paranoid you sound right now?
In Europe communism doesn't appeal to the proletariat anymore. To them communism is a dead, old ass ideology that died together with the USSR. Only intellectuals (most of them sociologists), active union members and somewhat well off to middle class leftists will call themselves communists. The working class mostly votes for far right parties nowadays.
>everyone is so atheist that it's not edgy anymore
Being atheist is edgy ?
Since i dont look at Magi spoilers, can someone tell me what happens?
Does Sinbad realize that David might be actually affecting him?
Also why arent the Ren brothers more surprised at Alibaba being alive?
So I decided to watch the anime first and I just finished episode 18. Does it get better? Should I just switch to the manga?
It feels like the creator had an idea he really liked, then dropped it for something else. Again, and again. But that's just from my impression of the anime thus far.
But they should not know all that Alibaba was actually alive as Amon is not back in the dungeon?
Or maybe they knew that he had lost only the soul and thought they would never be able to return therefore considered him dead?
The anime is shit compared to the manga. You must read the manga.
You mean it has abandoned the original idea of the Dungeon? After that Dungeon is weak?
I think it's a good thing, this made it possible to introduce interesting themes and make Magi shonen of quality.
>Capitalism doesn't have everyone fuck off to do useless jobs en masse because they would quickly starve to death or quit and go back to a job that they are actually good at
Oh yeah, I forgot Capitalism actually cares whether you are starving to death/have a job or not.
>You mean it has abandoned the original idea of the Dungeon? After that Dungeon is weak?
Pretty much. I went in blind so I was expecting Pokemon Dungeon master adventures, then it got dropped in favor of everyone getting djinn power ups. Not only that, Ali Baba going to the dark side then turns around and wants to do politics.
It just seems so random. Now it's training arc with colorful cast of characters
who are awfully pale for people out in the sun so long but Japan I guess.
>Ali Baba going to the dark side then turns around and wants to do politics.
The anime forgot to tell people he's a prince at the end of the first dungeon arc like the manga did and it makes that whole thing seem random.
Well that explains everything.
>Alibaba joins up with the Fog Troupe
This. Looks like it's time to read the manga from the start.
Only thing I'll miss out on are the pretty colors from the anime.
>Alibaba joins up with the Fog Troupe
Why do you say that is random? Alibaba after being released by Amon Dungeon left a message to Aladdin where he said he went to Balbadd. (If I remember correctly, even before in the Dungeon had said to Aladdin who has a question to be resolved in Balbadd)
I don't mean it being random, I mean it as such a deviation from his original stated goal. Again, I was expecting dungeon master quests, not- well, everything that happened. I figured, upon watching, he joined and would have been converted back to the good guy side later on or dungeon conquering rival stuff. But nope, democracy and republic politics.
But its original goal is just a way to escape the responsibility, but then after having obtained the Dungeon richness understands that he can not escape from its responsibilities. In chapter 2 of the manga, in fact, he tells Aladdin that first of all must go to Balbadd to fix its problems (from which he escaped) and spends most of the Dungeon richness to free the slaves of Qishan.
We're at 270 now with how many arcs? Initial, kouga, balbadd, zagan, magnostadt, alma torran, hakuryuu. So about 30-40 chapters each. I think the last arc will be about 50-60.
What country are you from?
Ohtaka isn't one to drag out a story. She writes it and gets it done. If her other arcs were all 40 chapters, why would this one suddenly be over 100?
>What country are you from?
Excuse me for my bad English. I'm still learning.
>Ohtaka isn't one to drag out a story. She writes it and gets it done. If her other arcs were all 40 chapters, why would this one suddenly be over 100?
Because there are too many things to say, I think the last bow will be a set of different mini-arcs.
>15 chapters later
>Alibaba and Kou Empire celebrate their trading company victory
>Drinks and women as far as the eye can see
>"Alibaba I have a specific girl who is rated our best"
>Alibaba has a flashback to Elizabeth and says he passes
>Alibaba gets offered another girl
>The girl who is rated the best shows up and walks pass Alibaba
>Elizabeth is behind her
Could be true. There is a lot left, regarding Arba, what happened to Solomon and David, what is going on with Sinbad, where Hakuryuu and Aladdin went, and whether Sinbad's new inventions are going to be sustainable. Also why Sinbad has confiscated or kept tabs on all the metal vessels. Reminder that the 72 metal vessels, all of them together, were the only thing that can seal Ill Illah. It's unclear why Sinbad would want to release that thing, but who knows.
I don't know the specific wording of the Japanese press release about it. Anons just say "final arc" and that seems singular.
Where's Anarchy and Peace?
Anarchy being destroy everything to kill God and Peace being working together to Kill God.
Only the far right Republicans. The Republican party haven't been the same ever since Obama become president. It's too sad to even laugh..., oh who am I kidding. I am laughing my ass off at their antics.
I have no idea why'd you put in four periods when I had put in three. Do you have Dyslexia, anon? Is this some thinly veiled attempt at seeking professional medical help for your condition?
Started out ADVENTURE, ended up ECONOMICS. There's arabia, china, rome, inuit, egypt, and whatever the fuck partevia is, maybe assyria.
It's pretty /cm/. It's /cm/ -- the manga. Like this fine specimen.
They're mostly in Sinbad no Bokuen if you're interested in crazy snow giants.
Pic related, who belongs to the totally not china faction was first introduced biting into a peach.
For the record, "bitten peach" is chinese slang for homosexual.
Further confirmed by his edgy friendship with another character.
And then there's Sinbad and Jafar who basically act like a married couple. Work together, shave together, etc.
Fuck. Look, Judar is a flaming homosexual, but Sinbad is a womanizer to the extreme. He's canon straighter than a ruler. Don't apply fujo logic to mai husbando.
Judar really is such a fucking faggot. In that omake she said he fucked whoever he wanted in the palace... it was hinted but never stated that they meant women. He just oozes the gay.
>don't apply fujo logic to my husbando
I never said they slept together (though I admit I do like reading doujins about it) but their friendship is ReinhardxKircheis tier imo. The only reason they're not married is because they don't fuck.
>In that omake she said he fucked whoever he wanted in the palace...
I don't remember, I'll have to look for that.
There's a reason greed has never been eliminated
It's because it's not a state outside humanity. Humans feel greed because we've the capacity to feel greedy and the inclination to want more for ourselves and our offspring. A system build on the absence of greed is doomed to fail because greed exists inherently.
>pure communism isn't the state telling everyone what to do
Are you an unironic anarcho-communist? The least sane and stable system in the world?
You must be in early college in a liberal arts track. Communism hands the power to the state as arbitors of the will of the people. The problem is, the exchange isn't inherently 1:1 and the state can act apart of the people's will or even against it.
There is barely any competition. Sense scans started doing it since chapter 24 on caught up when we were 150 chapters behind and are doing it now. Ocassionally there is an impatient tumblr release with JP>CH>EN translation, but those are recognisible by shitty scans.
They are besties.
Sinja triggers me because half the fanart of Sinbad is Sinja which I don't ship.
I like baba x haku though.Shame no one else does though.
You have a cute husband, anon.
Idk, they're ice giants. Were ainu ice giants and lived in a faraway land of snow and glaciers?
Ja'fa is looking like a neglected housewife, why does he look so pitiable like that? I thought he was supposed to be a strict husband and wouldn't let Sin stray from the path, but it seems he failed miserably.
Yes, Hokkaido, back then Ezo, was like thecold and snowy end of the Earth to your usual Edo peasants.
Clothes design, weapons, architecture, lifestyle, language, all of Imchakk has been heavily inspired by Ainu.
And as for Shaman King, it's not just inspiration, Horokeu is an ainu.
David going batshit insane livestream and might go an hero
Enjoy the audiostream