You know every anime fanbase has a bit of a complicated relationship

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Yes?

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>>137243164
It was fun until they ruined everything.

>>137243164
>Here comes Germany
Anon, Germoney is a cocked country right now. They have far worse problems. Degenerating TV channels which killing themselves with political correctness and other bullshit is just a symptom.

>>137243487

Everything sucks in Germany!

I want to be born in Italy. They have the best cartoon and anime programming in the world.

>>137243164
Does anime actually still air on RTL II?
I thought its only Pro7 Maxx now.

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Who the hell even watches television anymore?

>>137243164
>people still watch television
I don't think even kids watch TV anymore. Youtube and on-demand TV is the future for most people. Anime on TV is pretty insignificant too because the internet is more accessible than ever.

>>137244950
It doesn't air anymore, RTL II is only Hartz-IV tv now.

>>137244950

No it doesnt

>>137245070
old people and stupid people.

It was a relevant medium, until about 2009. 2010 nobody cared anymore.

>>137245161
This is a discussion on the past.

It's time to remind them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_WGk-zL64w

>>137244950
>Pro7 Maxx
They had better shows for a short while though, they had Megas XLR for example running around a short time which may isnt anime but is fucking great
And the really old Yu Gi Oh series which were just funny to watch
And, if I remember correctly, Inu Yasha was running on Viva for a short time together with Sailor moon, but that was a while ago
Man why do those TV channels always fuck up so badly?

>>137244950
>Pro7 Maxx
>mfw they show "anime for adults" that have tits, ass and a lot of blood in them
Didn't even know things like Akame ga kill or whatever had german dubs.
Then again, Samurai Flamenco has a german dub.

>>137243164
>What happens? In the year 2006 everyone and their mother is informed about Anime and that it went through some bad censorship

The guy shooting up the school happened which was unheard of before and started all the guns blazing shootout shit that came up from time to time. Everything was blamed and since the people running the station (and politicians) were old farts that thought chinese cartoons are for little kids and hence a possible bad influence started to censor the shit out of everything.

>>137245267
Digimon was one the bad shows.

Detective Conan, Rose of the Versailles, Ai Shite Knights, Cats Eye, Nadia

THOSE were the real gems.

>>137245314
Viva had no money (Viacom killed everything except Nickelodeon).
Also american cartoons outside of comedy and for really small children dont do well at all.

>>137245433
They have tons of mediocority on that block really. No gems at all.

Too long.

RTL has the most cancerous shows, I swear to god.

There's some shit that doesn't even come close to bad american TV. I'm glad germany is able to contain that shit.

>>137245588
>RTL has the most cancerous shows
Oh god, remembering all those "reality TV-shows" made by RTL
Its really cringey
>There was a person that ate Toilet papier with Chocolate powder
And that was only one of those retarded occasions
German Writers are fucked up

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>>137243164
Don't forget Viva. We had Noir, Gothic, Agent Aika, Ghost in the shell stand alone complex etc in the early 2000s. Also DNA² and Evangelion marathon-nights on VOX and Evangelion and Ghibli movies on SuperRTL.

>>137245532
Digimon s1 was the shit along with monster rancher. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7k5x_monster-rancher-intro_news

>>137245532
>Detective Conan back then: double murder episode
>Naruto now: "we have to capture him," "he was defeated"

>They have tons of mediocority
As I said, show has tits, gore or both? Then it's good enough for that,
And that means things like AgK or HotD

>>137245532
>Digimon was one the bad shows.
bad taste. very low energy.

more goat digimon ops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCFudfvmk1s

I fucking miss watching Digimon Tamers on Kabel1 in the morning before going to school.
Woke up an hour early just to watch it.

>>137245508

No...German Youth Protection still judged the show the same as they did back then. The shooting had no effects on fictional programmes had no effects (only videogames were effected). It was the TV Channel that suddenly did all the censorship.

We are lucky that german tv is allowing to air alot of content that is also ok to Japanese children.
Sword Art Online is considered risque in the US at Late Night hours because of the implied rape and incest during an episode.
In Germany that can air in the afternoon.

Also parents dont give a shit - they are plenty options on TV for kids.

>>137245723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEg3n0L2sQ

In what lab do they produce these people in?

>>137245773
>Viva. We had Noir, Gothic, Agent Aika, Ghost in the shell stand alone complex etc in the early 2000s
Really? Are you maybe thinking about MTV? I must say I don't remember very well when MTV actually existed in Germany, whether it was the same as Viva at some point in time and what not.

>VOX
Much better. I think they showed Hellsing among other things, the other shows I can't remember.

>>137245915
>In what lab do they produce these people in?
Its germany, people are like this by default sometimes

>>137245915
lmao @ that white knight's life

>>137245881
Yeah the politicians was sarcasm I didn't mean they influenced the TV stations. RTL2 did that by themselves, probably to avoid negative press or something but in return they killed their biggest fanbase over the time.


Nudity and shit is pretty much irrelevant in german TV but it's blood and any kind of violence that gets knocked down by the censorship hamer wth full force.

>>137245962
VOX also showed Record of Lodoss War, dayum those were long nights.
Also Golden Boy on MTV. Good times.

>Anime on TV

A dead thing worldwide, but the Italian public channel gave it a last push from 2010 onwards.

Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai.
Atack on Titan
Aria The Animation
Aria The Natural
Code Geass
Dennou Coil
Ergo Proxy
Eureka Seven
Lovely Complex
Mawaru Penguindrum
Nana
Noein
Planetes
Psycho-Pass
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Romeo x Juliet
Soul Eater
Special A
Steins;Gate
Sword Art Online
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Tokyo Magnitude 8.0
Toradora!
Welcome to the NHK

>>137246095
>no Yuru Yuri
This is why anime failed in the west.

>>137246061
And how could I forget, didn't they show Cowboy Bebop, or am I imagining it.
What about Escaflowne, could swear that was also on German TV. MTV too?
And thumbs up for golden Boy.

>>137245962
Golden Boy, Evangelion and Lupin the 3rd were among the first I can remember on MTV. MTV2 aired Inu Yasha uncensored before it went over to RTL2. VOX had some nice stuff, Record of Lodoss War, Animatrix, GitS movie Dragon Knight 4 ever.

>>137243164
>the current century
>owning a television
smdh tbqh fäm

>>137246282
>DBZ was very violent
I still remember them skipping the episode where Satan and his dog got shot.
>and also swearing in it.
I don't remember the middle fingers they edited out however, but apparently there were some.

>>137246026
The only time they got negative press was when they had merchandise for small children for DBZ when it was on air. But DBZ was very violent and also swearing in it.

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>>137245962
>Viva
Yes, it was Viva. Couldn't find a better source. And silly me I didn't mean Gothic I meant Hellsing of course.

>>137246343

We got the french cut version which was cut about 6 minutes.

But yeah the german version of DBZ was very "edgy" in it's dub.

i don't know much about chinese cartoons, but supposedly video gayman was pretty censored in germany
fps had no blood and shot enemies just dropped to their knees sulking

Does anyone remember the name of this show that was shown on german TV (don't remember the channel):

Possibly female mc, something about assassins and bulletholes looked really weird on humans, like they were metal or something.
I think the female mc had a red or blue gun (all guns had a color) and was a gun for hire.
It was pretty violent and had some rape/sex in there.
Think it had a real shitty ending, I remember it vividly:
She (female mc) is walking home with a bag of bag of cat food or so and is killed/shot by another assassin. It ends when you see one of the cat food cans roll away.

I've been trying to find this shit for the last ten goddamn fucking years.

>>137246510
Yes I remember, it was something that I won't tell you.

>>137246582
You're a big fat meanie.

>>137246430
>6 minutes
Really? Seemed like a lot more at the time.
But it was blatantly obvious that something just got skipped, as the narrator in the episode just started with "after Satan and hisdog were shot" which never happened in the episode before.

>>137246352
DBZ was even advertised as being for adults and aired at 19:00 or something. They toned down the violence and swearing along with all the other shows airing throughout the day.

And as I said, they probably did it to avoid any negative press in combination with the school shooting. It was shortly after that incident that the censorship got into the extreme.

>>137243164
Medabots was all the hype in my country. Dat intro...

>>137246510
Sounds like you're mixing up Agent Aika and Noir.

>>137246507
It's still censored. Something like Dead Rising 3 from 2013 still didn't get released here because of it's brutality.
In Modern Warfare 2 they didn't allow the player to shoot at humans in the airport mission, Dead Space 2 didn't have it's multiplayer in the german version.
There is countless stuff like that.

>>137246061
True my friend. I spend entire night watching this and recording on vhs. It was awesome, NGE, Bubblegum Crisis, RoLW, Gunsmith Cats, MD Geist omg... good times indeed, anime was something unique and magical at those days...

>>137246770
Not sure, just looked both of them up.
I know that the one with the bad ending has the colorful guns.

>>137246703

No the swearing never was toned down - the violence of DBZ was toned down by itself (Boo Saga was very tame really).

Either way the violence in One Piece, Naruto and Conan is very "morally correct", and I'm sure there would never be bad press about it.

The problem is if a TV station wants to show rated 12 stuff...and really most channels do it.
Nobody gave a fuck.

>>137246991
I don't understand the point of censoring. have you seen some of their daytime or even morning programs? Full on tits and everything.

TV used to be good until the americans influenced it.

>>137246991
I remember Shin-chan creating a huge fuss when it was aired here.

>>137246987
Dude, title you looking for is name "Kite". Brutal anime with rape scenes, you must find uncensored version

>>137246991
lots of people gave a fuck, there were some pictures floating around where especially in One Piece stuff like guns were swapped with some rubber hammer or something which pretty much destroyed and kind of impact these scenes would've had otherwise.

>>137246095
>Italy
>ARIA
Well, I guess it makes sense

>>137247151
lmao, thats the 4kids version.

>>137247128
The first dub did...cause it had alot of cuss words and again was very "edgy".
The second dub was like a normal sitcom and nobody had a problem.

Also negative press isnt bad at all...it gets more rating if anything. The TV channel could just say...dont like it? Watch Disney instead.

>>137247149
That looks like it may be it! Thanks.

>>137247354
Guess I mixed that up then, germany straight up removed the weapons.

>>137247425
The only edits Germany has ever done was Naruto

>>137243164
i share the same "birth" day and Year with RTL 2 ;_;

Fuck me I still remember watching all those anmays on German TV. I literally learned German through them. The wan piss and detective conan dubs were legit GOAT

Ah, I still remember going with my cousin to his grandfathers old room to watch Aika late at night on Viva as 12-year-olds. I feel sorry for the current young anime fanbase as they probably will never feel the same expierence when you rushed home to catch an episode of Ranma/Digimon etc.

>>137248006
Today's youth grows up torrenting Yuru Yuri on their iPads.

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This guy right here teached kids all about Japan, Anime and Manga.
He should have never went off air, 3 years was way too little

>>137245194
>It was a relevant medium, until about 2009. 2010 nobody cared anymore.
Alright, Holder of Truth.

>>137248056
what goat years we live in

>>137248241
wow , this dude

>>137248241
He looks like he's going to fucking murder me. Why is German children's entertainment so fucked up?

>>137248354
You haven't seen Bernd das Brot. He probably made a lot of people here into cynical fucks

>>137248439
Alle zusammen, tanzt das Brot.

>>137248439
Oh fucking hell, I forgot about that.

I wonder what the longtime effects of watching that will be.

>>137248056
Wrong. Most of them don't even watch stuff like Yuru Yuri.
They don't even torrent. Instead, they stream subbed or even dubbed anime like SAO etc.
They might watch some Dragonball, but it's mostly because it's one of the only "acceptable" anime.

>>137243585
wew lad
I only give you lupin as a current one and there is it

>>137248998
>Most of them don't even watch stuff like Yuru Yuri.
Plebs will be plebs.

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>>137246095
>tfw when they won't IT dub S;G0 cause S;G sales
Oh, well at least I can support them another way

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Try to grow up in the Communist block faggot. We got nothing but fucking Russian shit and propaganda cartoons

Dragon Ball got a chance, we got like 10-20 epuside until it was canceled because an autist jumped off the building saying to his friends before hand he's Goku and he can survive the fall

Cry me a fucking river about GT

>>137249085
Pretty much.
It's even worse with manga. They don't give a shit about quality (use readers like MF or MH) and show no respect for scanlators.

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>>137245314
Pro7maxx is still fine if you ask me.
What else is fun as a dub of your native language if not ecchi nonesense comedies like Colorwars or dxd

>>137249220

Well if you say it like that...in how many countries has anime truly broken through?

Italy, Spain, France, USA, Latin America, Germany, Arabic, Greece, some SouthEast Asian countries.
Tough I hear the asian market is not even that big...I hear the French market is bigger.

>>137249456
France really likes anime and manga. They have a fuckton of manga translated

>>137243164
Give it some time maybe 5-10 years the TV industry will die.

>>137249404
Issei saying "Ich will Chefins Nippel lutschen" made me loose my shit

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>>137248241
Their first mascot is still my favorite.

>>137249704
I probably haven't felt this much physical pain from a line of dialogue in my entire life.

>>137249998
That's a good thing. You understand it better so you actually feel something when you hear it.

> I lived on Spain for 16 years
> thanks to a neighbor I could watch German TV
>all these based channels
>all these anime

shame about the softcore porn

I guess everything goes into crap eventually.

>>137243164
>not knowing that Vox was broadcasting NGE complete and subtitled in the nineties.

>>137243164
Also Heidi was airing way before all this and before there even was satelite TV in Germany

>>137243164
Oh and Tele5 had Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs (Sei Jūshi Bisumaruku) in the late 80s around 88 and into the early 90s

>>137243164
>tfw Pokito could sometimes be cool(interview with Arina Tanemura)
>but most of the time it was just gay shit with some faggot nobody kids

Also RTL II started going bad in 2004...2006 was when it got really bad though

>tfw now it only shows reality show shit
wtf happened!!!
not even super rtl got fucked this hard

>>137243164
Also
>crappy french cartoons
Oh god those were awful
If you're gonna show me some french cartoons then show me something good like Lucky Luke or Asterix & Obelix not that cheap New Shit(of course Super RTL probably had the rights to those but y'know)

At least they showed some good shit like the 2003 TMNT Cartoon,Jackie Chan Adventure as a sort of downtime for the animu stuff but that didn't last long before we had absolute shit like Chaotic

>>137245532
>Not mentioning Jeanne Die Kamikaze Diebin
Neger du hattest nur ein job

>>137251524
Pretty sure Heidi was a German-Japanese production in the first place
Fantastic authentic voice acting for the thing

>>137243164
>cutted
>cutted
>cutted

>>137253653
Nah it wasn't. It was a Japanese production. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi,_Girl_of_the_Alps
Heidi is just pretty famous internationally and German dubbing has a sort of tradition of being pretty good, you could say

>>137253653
btw it was also Miyazaki's first major work, he did the backgrounds and was involved with the screenplay if i remember correctly

>>137243164
>Ranma
Speaking of Ranma. Did anyone notice that they mispronounced some names in the german dub? They were calling Ryoga Dyoga, Dr. Tofu Dr. Tofe, Shampoo Zampoo etc... I always wondered if they didn't bought the rights to pronounce them right, like in Pro Evolution Soccer.

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>>137254087
Ah yeah...wiki says it came out in Germany only 3 years after it aired in Japan

Isao Takahata directed it

German dub is probably the definitive version

them feels when Klara began to walk ;_;

>>137243164
>Throw out every anime people like, replace them with crappy french cartoons and bad ratings are abound.
>Now they are in the state of just putting bad reality shows and getting bad ratings.

Don't forget bad italian Cartoons! Also crappy cartoons with toy tie-in like Beyblade or that Monster shit.

>>137257367
>Also crappy cartoons with toy tie-in like Beyblade or that Monster shit.
Hey Beyblade,Pokemon and Digimon were fun as a kid