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I just finished Toradora. It was great, probably the most enjoyable

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I just finished Toradora. It was great, probably the most enjoyable romance anime I've ever seen, but best girl not winning was fucking criminal and now I feel like shit.

Toradora discussion?
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>>137210336
Go rape yourself.
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>>137210336
But Taiga was best girl.
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Watch golden time if you want minori to win
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>>137210336
>2016
>Not having finished Toradora in 1989
Pleb.
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But Taiga did win bro.
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the show was contrived shit
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Go fuck yourself. Best girl won and worst girl lost.
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>>137210848
>tfw you were born reading toradora

Feels good.
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>>137210336
>ITT memes
Watch more than one anime then come back.
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>>137210336
here we go again
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GREATEST
LOVE
STORY
EVER
TOLD
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>>137210909
Yeah, that was my point.
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Minori was great, but Taiga was best girl.
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The reason people love Keit-ai is because its basically Toradora without the parallel universe.
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>>137211740
I think it's the other way around.
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>>137210336
It was her choice, she's an idiot
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>>137210983
>worst girl
There are no worst girls in Toradora.
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>>137211709
Taiga was a great girl, and in any other anime would have deserved to win, but Minori deserved to be happy too, and Ryuuji had loved her for years. Taiga and Ryuuji should have just stayed as non-blood-related siblings

>>137211958
She deserved a second chance. Everyone else got second chances in the show apart from Minori.
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>>137211999
I disagree, I think Taiga and Ryuuji are perfect for each other, but at the same time I can honestly see why you think Minori should have won so I'm not going to argue. What I don't really get is why she gets so much shit on /a/.
>inb4 because she's a cuck
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>>137212151
Minori is best girl IMO, but I suppose one reason peeople might dislike her is because she had the chance to be happy with Ryuuji, to easily achieve the kind of perfect relationship that every single character in the show spent the whole time desperately searching for, and then deliberately deprived them both of that happiness out of a misguided, arguably incredibly condescending, sense of obligation to her friend.
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>>137212270
Shouldn't that make her more likable though? People who are willing to give up their own happiness for the sake of their friends are very rare, shouldn't that kind of altruism be applauded instead of ridiculed? I really don't get people sometimes.
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>>137212472
Again, I think Minori is best girl, but i don't think that's what she was doing.

I think there's a difference between making sacrifices for your friend's sake because you're a good person, and not going after the things you most want because you're scared of hurting people, making yourself totally miserable in the process and watching everyone else be happy while you suffer alone. I don't think that kind of thing is healthy or admirable at all.
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>>137212681
>making sacrifices for your friend's sake because you're a good person
>not going after the things you most want because you're scared of hurting people
Doesn't that make you a good person though?
I don't know, I don't think she actually had a choice really, she would have ended up bad either way. If she ended up with Ryuuji, she would have had to see Taiga getting heartbroken and hated herself for it. She instead chose the lesser of the two evils by only making herself suffer. That's how I see it at least.
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>>137213017
Yeah, that's how I interpret it at as well. I also think Minori did try hard to find her own happiness in the end, she realised she loved Ryuuji and wanted to be with him, and that Taiga was capable of standing on her own two feet, but she'd hesitated too long in the end. my previous posts were just an attempt to play devils advocate.
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>>137212681
I thought she gave up on Ryuuji also for her own sake. She worked her ass off so she would own her achievements to herself only, hooking up with Ryuuji because her friend gave up on him would go against it.
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Minori a shit, she is worst girl and not at all cute
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>>137210336
>great
>enjoyable
Nah, it was a pile of shit. That amount of bullshit kid drama would sink any ship.
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>>137213382
I think she gave up on Ryuuji originally because she thought that's what she was doing, but then she realised that loving someone and accepting someone elses love isn't some form of dependence or reliance on others, but also another form of self-created happiness.

i think the reason it took her so long to be honest with herself and Ryuuji about her feelings is because she was struggling to interpret her identity and independence in the context of romantic love, and initially misinterpreted those things, making herself and others miserable in the process.
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>anime
>it's an actual good romance
What the fuck?
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>>137213548
How can one person be this wrong?
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>>137213548
Here's your (You).
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Ami is best girl at the end though
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Is ami and minori route at the game decent enough to play?
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>>137215001
Go watch the endings on youtube, the Minori route at least is basically the same as the anime up until the ending.

But yeah, they're good. Minori route ending is canon an as far as I'm concerned.
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>>137210336
Never watched it and don't plan to but should I buy the manga?
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>>137215461
Just watch it, it's great.
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>>137215461
why the fuck would you read the manga when the anime exists
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>>137216285
bcuz
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>>137210336

Minori had tons of chances to tell the MC how she felt. But she hid her interest behind a veil of spontaneous reactions. Another girl came along and eventually told the MC how she felt.

Its actually one of the few realistic love stories out there. As that was the intention. To be a contradiction of all the idealized light novel stories where the least likely girl wins at the end.
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>>137210336
Minori choose friendship over love.
It's her fault.
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Should I pick this up again? I got started but tiger or whatever was so annoying I ended up dropping it a few eps in.
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>>137210804
This.
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>>137210336
>probably the most enjoyable romance anime
Go watch more anime you fucking faggot
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>>137214530
This
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>>137210336
practically the show ended at ep 2. why did it even had so much episodes after that I dunno.
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What makes Minorin best girl? I usually tend to see best girls as the ones that have the worse life but somehow manages it.

Minorin had problems but it looked like her parents were always there to help her up, Taiga did not have that and even Minorin feels bad for her considering how protective she is of Taiga, I guess she knows a bunch of stuff Taiga had to go through.

Also, what is it that makes Minorin so fucking depressed all the time but she tries hiding it?
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>>137213017
minori is basically 8man tier. but 8man is way more best character than minori.
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>>137220103

Read >>137219003

Monori is a parody of the typical perfect girl with one flaw you see in most stories (Hallmark movies, Amagami, Love Hina, etc). The difference is, in Toradora, the story doesn't bend over backwards to get her together with the MC. She has to actually act on her own. And she didn't.
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This anime fucked me up bad desu.
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>>137210336
Why are her eyes empty?
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>>137210336
Oh good, I wasn't the only one who thought Taiga's daddy issues didn't excuse her terrible attitude and behaviour.
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I thought Toradora was alright until I got to the start of the final arc where the MC just shits on his mom.

That fucking infuriated me. ESPECIALLY because by the end of the show they make it out like the mom is the one who needs to apologize. MC was such an ungrateful cunt, and so insufferable about how he handled that argument and resolution.

It pissed me off so badly I just hate the show now.
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>>137221183
I want to make Yasuko a single mom!
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>>137221183

His mom worked to make money, but otherwise was lazy, self centered and a slob. While the story makes her interactions light-hearted and funny, she was still portrayed as a bad parent.
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>>137222145
Yasuko had a hard life, the man she loved went away and even after that she was not able to tell Ryuuji what had actually happened, I believe she is a pretty nice person for that, she did not want to make Ryuuji feel anger towards his dad.
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>>137220796

Me too.

It is blogshit but many of things that I saw in the anime are part of my life, I never had a father figure, my mom divorced him after knowing he had cheated on her when I was 3 and now it has just been the two of us.

When they talk about a family of 3 I keep on wondering how nice it would be if I found a Taiga.
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>>137210336
Taiga is the best you lesbian loving tard
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>>137222145
Yasuko is just an adult Yui.
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>>137221183

He was concerned with his moms condition and she denied him to help her.I would also do the same thing like he did because I love my mom and dad. He wasnt mad at her at all.
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>>137210336
Agree. Taiga was shit. Minori and Ami where gold tiers. Fucking tsundere.
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>>137210336
>the most enjoyable romance anime I've ever seen

Then you haven't seen much.
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So what is the reason I didn't like Toradora, /a/?
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I want to know one thing. When did Minorin start to love Ryuji exactly? At the beginning I was sure she was gay.
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Post gifs that personally give you the most feels from this show.
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First half of Toradora was fantastic.

Second half the author just completely changed characters entirely to force the dragon and tiger together.

Worth watching for the first half at least.
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>>137224809
hard to say, he was showing interest the entire time and he wasn't bad looking so I guess eventually she noticed. Really all it takes is to show interest or effort and the girl will start to like him back. I guess the defining moment was probably the beach trip when they were eating ice cream and talking about ghosts and love and stuff.
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>>137225524
putting a sweet moisty word on this
i think the first two episodes were as good as it gets
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>>137210336
Ami = best girl
Taiga = a shit
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>>137225883
BIG HAIRY VAGINA
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>>137225898
>that komori kei doujin where she is being shaved
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Oh look, it's this thread again. More of neo-/a/ discovering torashit.
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I want me some of dat sweet Palm Top Tiger
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>>137210336
Do what I did, OP. Rewatch the anime until the end of episode 19, then play the Minori True route in the VN.
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>>137215118
>as far as I'm concerned
If the ending has the word "true" in it, then it's canon!

>>137215001
The routes themselves? Yes, fantastic. They expand upon what the anime didn't and all the characters act in line with what you'd expect.

The actual endings though are utter shit. Major deux ex machinas. The only endings in the VN that played out well are the school council president route and Taiga's routes.
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>>137210336
Jesus fuck, i don't remember Toradora having such a terrible artstyle
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>>137224809
It was strongly hinted to be the beach trip when they were discussing ghosts but I mean it could have been much earlier. He's tall and he's nice. Really, what else do women want besides that?
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>>137226774
Then you need to rewatch it.
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>>137226795
Don't tell me that shot was actually from Toradora
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>>137224579
You're a nigger?
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>>137224898
The whole Christmas episode fucked me up bad.
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>>137210839
Underrated comment of the year.
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>>137210839
>>137227815
Koko is nothing like Minori. Don't ever compare Minori with that bitch.
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>>137227877
Not comparing. Just admitting how mutually shitty they both are.
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It's another "I just finished Toradora" thread? I feel like I've seen 4 of these this week. Is that sudden influx of newsfags in affect or is it some kind of meme I've been missing for some time?
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>>137226419
There are people on /a/ that haven't watched Eva yet and you're complaining that they just watched Toradora? I've been watching anime for 8 years and haven't been in the slightest interested in romance until 2 years ago.
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>>137228352
>Minori
>shit
Curb stomp yourself.
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>>137228410
You can be a member of captain autism's club all you want. But she will still be no good.

That's not even figuring in her breaking Taigas Christmas star with baseball autism power.
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>>137228491
>hur dur she's autistic
>she broke her friend's star by accident, even though it devasted her, so she's the worst thing in the Universe
You can stop, we already know where this is going and it will only make you look even more retarded.
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>>137228573
I'll stop but only due to the fact that Minori was mostly just an annoying Genki girl that had no redeeming traits outside of her encouraging during the race for Taigas dance and at the tail end of the series.

I don't particularly hate Minori. However she is like Koko in that she shut up her emotions 99% of the series just like Koko did causing harm to herself and those she cared about because she didn't have the sense to do otherwise. In that regard she was just as frustrating a character. However unlike Koko she was in a good series so overall a more positive light can be shined upon her as a character.
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>>137228394
>Not watching every show from the season as it airs and only dropping things you don't like after the three episode rule

Full pleb.
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>>137230002
I was young and foolish. Give me a break.
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Does anyone have that Ami pic where in she's writing Ami Ryuji in the window?
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The dub was really good.
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