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Nichijou, Steins;Gate and Madoka are the top 3 anime of the last 5 years.

Prove me wrong.
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>Nichijou
Nice meme.

I agree with Madoka and Steins;gate though.
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Nichijou wasn't in 2011's top 3.

Anohana was.
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>Nichijou
Comedy which understandably didn't sell because it wasn't funny at all.

>Steins;Gate
I never watched the anime but I read the VN and it got so stupid that I could no longer suspend my disbelief and I dropped it. Chaos;Head was much better.

>Madoka
I can't stand SHAFT's artsy garbage style. It just looks like static to me and the wide empty spaces prevent me from being immersed into the world at all. I simply can't believe that it's real on any level.
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>>137192375
Ping Pong was better than all 3.

I really enjoyed Steins;Gate, but it had lots of flaws and reading the VN only made the adaption worse.
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SMOK SMOKE WEED SMOK SMOKE WEED EVERRYDAYDAY DAY

DAYDAYDAYDAYDAYDAY
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>>137192375
>>137192487
Lord no. 2011's top 3 was Hyouge Mono, Hourou Musuko and Penguindrum.
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>>137192375
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>>137192525
>Comedy which understandably didn't sell because it wasn't funny at all.
Because you people have shit taste
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>>137194193
And you have asperger's.
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>>137194112
Only for you.
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The Tatami Galaxy, Hyouka and Space Dandy for TV. Kaguya-hime, Tamako Love Story and Shashinkan for movies. I'm a patrician so you can trust my objective discerning judgement on the matter.
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>>137194193
Yeah because not getting along with a type of humour automatically grants you a shit taste.
Not everyone has your sense of humour fucking fag
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YuYuYu was better than Madoka
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>>137195080
Neither are particularly good but Madoka was at least watchable.
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steins;gate, sure

the other 2 are just shit
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>>>/r/changemyview
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>>137192525
>Chaos;Head was much better.
>Gigalomaniac
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>>137195080
Preach it, brother
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>>137195080
>The Madoka knockoff is better than Madoka
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>>137192525
>Chaos;Head was much better

Are you fucking new?
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>>137194972
>Hyouka
Literally destroy yourself.
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>>137199288
I'm new for having my own opinion? Do you have brain problems?

99% of you Dr Pepper memers have never read Chaos;Head anyway.
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>>137192375
>Steins;Gate
Ok, I can live with this (minus the retarded visuals).
>Madoka
Not really, top 15 maybe.
>Nichijou
Never.
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>>137192375
>nichijou
>not absolute garbage
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>>137192525
>Nichijou
>not funny

Please, direct me to a funnier anime that isn't Cromartie High School or OPM.

>Steins;Gate
>it got so stupid

Nigga this is anime, all of it is fucking stupid.

>Madoka
>SHAFT's artsy garbage style

AKA the only studio right now willing to do anything outside the box visually?

You're a contrarian fuck and we all know it.
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>>137199449
What do you think is better than Madoka and Nichijou, then?

>>137199535
Name a better comedy anime than Nichijou then that isn't Cromartie HS or OPM.
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>>137192487
Anohana is shit.
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>>137199617
>Name a better comedy anime than Nichijou then that isn't Cromartie HS or OPM.
Nichibros
Gintama
Excel Saga
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>>137199552
>Please, direct me to a funnier anime that isn't Cromartie High School or OPM.

Ichigo Mashimaro
Nichibros
Noucome
K-ON!
Minami-Ke
Ika Musume
Yuru Yuri

>AKA the only studio right now willing to do anything outside the box visually?

Outside the box doesn't mean good. Not to mention every SHAFT show is practically the same shit in terms of style.
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>>137199617
the japs aren't funny, you fucking weeb
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>>137199617
Last 5 years? Then Hyouge Mouno(u?), Ping Pong, Mawaru, S;G. Maybe Yamato 2199 and maybe maybe Usagi Drop.

Also: some episodes of Space Dandy.
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>>137199617
>Name a better comedy anime than Nichijou
Akikan, Hanamaru kindergarten, potemayo, chii's sweet home, Daily lives of highschool boys, dimension W, the list is endless.
Nichijou was REALLY unfunny. It appeals to people who laugh at lul so random humour
Oh there's a duck on her head and now it exploded!
That's so funny!
Now a roll cake will come out of Nano's arm! That's so funny and random! *Holds up spork*

It's trash.
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>>137199729
>K-ON!
>Ika Musume
>Yuru Yuri

You're grasping at straws here, m8.
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>>137192375
You proved yourself wrong with that shit taste.
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>>137199807
All of them at top tier comedies (much unlike Nichijou). Meme harder.
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>>137199853
Also I should add that Nichijou was simply painful to watch and almost any series I could name would be funnier.
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>>137199853
Literally all of them are SoL and barely even qualify as comedies.

You're a contrarian faggot.

End yourself.
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Steins;Gate #1
Nichijou is ok but asking to prove it's not top 3 is a meme
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>>137200043
Apparently you're the contrarian judging by the sales you fucking sperg.
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The scroll was better
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>>137199756
>calls people weebs
>is on /a
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>>137199449
Retarded visuals?
How so? While not the best thing I ever seen nothing was offensive about it.
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OFFICIAL TOP 10 ANIME OF THE DECADE:

1. The Tale of Princess Kaguya
2. The Tatami Galaxy
3. Wonder
4. Hyouka
5. Shashinkan
6. Space Dandy
7. Ping Pong
8. K-On!!
9. Mushishi Zoku Shou
10. Tamako Love Story
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>>137192375
Hyouka instead of Nichijou and I can accept your taste.
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>>137192525
Nichijou didn't always have great jokes, but on a pure animation level they show had the budget of a god. And if the joke/punchline is actually funny the show is great.
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30Y572EmCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30Y572EmCk

Unfortunately, animation doesn't do much for comedy so when the scene fall flat they fall flat hard.


I find Noazki-kun and Nichibros funnier overall.
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>>137200448
Pretty reasonable actually. Wouldn't have put Wonder though, don't care enough about those indie short patrician points.
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Tatami Galaxy beats all three easily.
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>Nichijou
Only if it was as funny as its animation
>Steins;Gate
Adaptation of mediocre timeloop VN that reads like all other timeloop VN except its got otaku pandering.
Some scenes were all right, and huke art was great, but anime version doesn't have it.
>Madoka
Rebellion was so unnecessary. Its all right, but heavily style>substance.
>Ping Pong
I hope the BD fixed a lot of stuff. You can't excuse all the mistakes they've made by saying 'hurr its not a mistake, its a style.'
Scheduling and hiring animators is also a part of making good anime.
>Tatami Galaxy
Basically an Endless Eight +
Better, but as it was with Endless Eight, the looping part needs to be trimmed.

Anime is dead, where's my Boku no Pico live action adaptation
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Glasslip, Pupa and Psycho Pass S2.
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>>137200448
My top ten would probably be:

Hibike! Euphonium
Hyouka
Kill la Kill
Little Witch Academia
Shashinkan
Shirobako
Space Dandy
The Tale of Princess Kaguya
Tamako Love Story
The Tatami Galaxy
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>>137195080
Would call it almost as good if not for that fucking asspull ending.
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>>137202504
this. the ending brought it from a 8 to a 2
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>>137200448
At least there's no SAO. That would be unforgivable.
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>>137201116
>the looping part needs to be trimmed

You could tell the entire story in a single run on sentence, if you trim away the time looping fat you have maybe 3 episodes.

>>137201165
>Psycho Pass S2

wew lad
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>>137201116
>Adaptation of a mediocre timeloop VN
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>>137201116
>Mediocre timeloop VN
That's kinda harsh, I thought it was really good.

>>137202640
You're not helping.
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>>137192375
>Madoka
Yuuki Yuuna was better.
>Nichijou
Unfunny rubbish.
>S;G
It was really good but I would hesitate to put it in the Top 3.
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>>137202630
What's the white thing that flies off after that badger gets thrown?
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>>137202739
>yuuki yuuna
gross
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>>137192375
Look, I don't necessarily think Madoka is bad. I had fun watching it. But people make it out to be this masterpiece and it's not. I can't particularly say it's deep, and while this may just be me, any meaning or message that it had was kind of obvious. And I found the whole entropy and thermo thing particularly pretentious, but that is definitely a personal problem because I'm a chemical engineer.

Again, it was enjoyable, but a lot of the plot could have been prevented by Homura, it got pretentious, the "deeper meaning" is readily apparent and understood to anyone with real world experience, and Madoka got on my nerves in a very similar manner that Shinji Ikari did, ironic, since my more specific criticisms of Evangelion and Madoka are very similar.

I'd give Madoka a 7.65
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>>137202940
>I'd give Madoka a 7.65
dohoho
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>>137202888
Fuck off Thomasposter
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>>137202983
deal with it.
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>>137202940
is that an respectful opinion i saw
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>>137202980
It's an entertaining magical girl anime if you stop presenting it as some masterpiece. Pretty good, not great. I suppose it'd be clearer if I said that be the equivalent of B-/C+ for me

>>137203354
Well I'm not shitposting or shilling so I guess
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>>137203554
Oh I'm bullying your score not your opinion. Numbered scores are retarded enough but going to double decimal places? That's next level.
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>>137192375
Are you talking about Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou I suppose.

Was it 5 years ago?
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>>137202337
>Tatami Galaxy
>of the last 5 years
You can't be more retarded than that.

Also: Kill la Kill. Really?
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>>137203807
I was talking about the decade, like the dude I responded to. Yeah, I liked Kill la Kill.
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>>137202940
I would just like to point out that almost all theming in creative media is incredibly simple. Strong theming isn't theming you've never heard of before, it's theming that executed well and is backed up and supported by many aspects the work in question.
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>>137203624
The double decimals is honestly more me being unsure what score to give it. Sometimes it depends on the day. Sometimes I think it's around a 7.8, others a 7.5. I find it an interesting blend of a lot of different things, so I find it kind of a difficult grade. For instance, the artstyle choices are pretty interesting, but also overstylized at times. Witches and magic are heavily present, but then Kyobey seems driven by motives that would be considered scientific. It presents themes and messages that when I was a teenager would have found profound, but as an adult I find it obvious. And it's arguably one of the more polarizing anime in recent memory amongst viewers, and from that viewpoint it's hard to remain objective about it.
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>>137205021
Just use your words. It's dumb to try and generalize every aspect of a multifaceted work into a single number.
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>>137205021
>And it's arguably one of the more polarizing anime in recent memory amongst viewers
Yeah, because one half is seeing that it's good and the other half is saying that it's bad just because they're annoyed of hearing the other half.

Most criticisms for Madoka I see are just nit-picky as fuck, and when I ask someone to direct me to a better anime, it's usually something far more pretentious and less enjoyable.
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>>137205749
Madoka has one really big issue, and that's the characters. For the most part, they're all very boring and there's very little nuanced interaction or genuine conflict between them.
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>>137205902
I have to agree. Homura is the only character with any depth. Mami has depth but they killed her before they could elaborate on it.
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>>137205902
That's because the puppets have to be moved from plot-twist to plot-twist. Real characters wouldn't be so obliging.

>>137205749
>a better anime
Any magical girl series apart from the deliberate genre parodies (and even some of the parodies like Prisma Illya are better)
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>>137205902
>they're all very boring and there's very little nuanced interaction or genuine conflict between them

>Homura, the shy new girl turned badass who would go back in time 1 million times to save her friends
>Kyubey, the chaotic neutral figurehead who's pulling the strings behind the scenes and whose intentions aren't completely pure, but sort of is, for the greater good of the universe
>Sayaka, girl in love who tries to use her wish for something she believes is altruistic, but really is just for her selfish desire to get with said guy. And when said guy doesn't end up with her, she finally realizes her intentions for the wish weren't altruistic and since her wish isn't going to benefit her in anyway, she just allows herself to die because the thing she wished for was no longer worth it

Does /a/ have amnesia or some shit? The characters were good.
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>>137192375
>not including JoJo in the list
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>>137206644
sayaka is a nothing character

the minute they show her standing outside a hospital room it's immediately clear that she's going to use her wish to make a sick person better and it's going to go badly like mami said and she'll go full tetsuo on everyone
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>>137206829
Maybe if they manage to adapt DiU properly.
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>>137206255
"No."
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>>137205749
I mean, my main criticisms are that the themes, while interesting, were mostly surface level. I like Kaname Madoka, but not as a main character, she felt like she was just there for the most part, and most of her time was spent indecisively crying. Maybe that was the point, but I find that concept fundamentally flawed. Homura could probably have prevented a lot of the plot, but maybe she hit a point where she was just going through the motions at that point. I found it annoying that Gen claims Kyobey isn't evil, when he essentially created the problems he had the solution to, regarding the witches. I also found it annoying that, despite the fact Kyobey explicitly mentions contract when offering them a wish, they never really question deeper into what it actually entails. The plot depends a lot on assuming all of the girls are incredibly stupid and unassuming, but that begs the question of why Homura doesn't just decide to come clean at the beginning, after Madoka and Sayaka are exposed to what it means to be a magical girl. I can only assuming for convenience, because why else would they just go along with this totally-not-evil-or-hiding-anything cat creature that is telepathically communicating with them, promising a wish and power at the expense of a not-greatly-elaborated-upon contract.

I don't think these are even that nitpicky, but if people want to claim that Madoka is a masterpiece, I feel like the plot can't be built around too many convenient points.

As for a better anime, I can't really direct you because I can't really think of another magical girl anime that goes the direct Madoka did. Do you want something that does what Madoka did but better? Do you care if it's a magical girl anime?
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>>137206644
Homura is fine but she's still one dimensional. Sayaka is basically the same way. All of the characters in Madoka are functional but none of them are exceptional and there are several character interactions that don't make much sense.
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>>137206644
>The characters were good

They weren't terrible but as >>137206255 said they really are puppets that exist to advance the plot. The gimmick or draw of Madoka really only is the reveal of Homura's journey in episode 10 and the plot twists in the previous episodes that bring the viewer to that point.
This lets you overlook the simplicity of the characters as compared to Eva, which is character as opposed to plot driven. The trainwreck characters are front and center and I have met people who hated Eva because of it and honestly can't blame them.
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>>137206255
Well yeah, the characters conveniently oblige every time. That isn't good writing
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>>137206982
Nigga it didn't even come out yet, stay mad faggot.
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>>137206982
Are you implying that Stardust Crusaders wasn't? Because the general consensus is that it was a panel by panel perfect adaptation.
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Nichijou, Hyoka and Amagi are.
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>>137207146
>the plot depends a lot on assuming all of the girls are incredibly stupid and unassuming

Bruh, you need to remember that this show is deconstructing magical girl anime, and I think that's what a lot of people seem to forget.

They're all gullible and unassuming because nothing bad ever happens in the world of a magical girl anime (except magical things, of course). Madoka was a Mary-Sue because that's what most mahou shoujo anime protagonists are like. She took forever to decide on the contract to fuck with the viewers, because they know that in any other anime, Madoka would be a magical girl in the first 10 minutes.

If they didn't do all of this, the plot twists would have a lot less of an impact, because you would know that deep down from the start that it's slightly off from your typical mahou shoujo.
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>>137207549
Except Mami got her head bitten off in episode 3
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>>137192375
you are a haremfag.
so you're wrong.
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>>137192375
terrible taste, same as reddit, come back when you watch some test
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>>137207861
Yeah, and the Madoka universe was working under typical "mahou shoujo" rules up until that episode.
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>>137207992
Fair enough. The only thing that might have tipped it away was some creepy sounding tracks and the really fucking weird witches, but you could probably attribute it to shaft.

Even so though, some of the convenient character actions persisted after it was clear this wasn't your typical mahou shoujo
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>>137192375
>Nichijou,
>Steins;Gate
Nah. Shirobako and KLK. Nichijo and SG are the top 10, though.
>Madoka
ok
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>>137192375

I would say Hunter x Hunter, Madoka, and Steins;Gate.
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I liked +tic Nee-san
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>>137192375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhK4MG2oisU
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