>>137172464 >good harem MC because he's pervy and actual wants to do something with his girls! I hate this shit. Pervert MC's aren't as common as MC's with absolutely no personality but they aren't that much rarer and aren't that much better by by default.
>>137172602 I think they're worse. Asexual MCs at least have an excuse for not fucking the girls. Perverted MCs who spend all their time peeping on and molesting their harem don't. Plus I don't find that behavior funny but annoying.
Issei isn't a good character because he's a pervert, he's a good character because he's decently complex as harem MCs go. Which admittedly is a very low bar to jump, but jump it he does.
1) He's torn between being a pervert and having respect for the girls in his harem, for instance trying to preserve Asia's innocence and reigning in his lewd instincts around her because she's something like a little sister to him for a number of books.
2) He also toggles between being the straight man and the funny guy, with his perversion being a source of comedy and occasionally well-deserved slapstick (note the absence of any domestic abuse tsunderes in the cast. The closest you get is Koneko). Then he turns around and plays the straight man when someone else is doing weird shit, like when Sirzechs is dressing up as Satan Red and Rias somehow can't see through his paper-thin disguise.
3) His inferiority complex isn't always as well-handled as it could be but it provides a compelling reason for him to refrain from lewding his girls; deep down he doesn't feel like he deserves them. Of course it also motivates him to become a better person and also level grind his power levels to BECOME worthy of them.
4) This ties into point 3, but Issei is a different kind of wish fulfillment character. In other stories the MC gets everything he ever wanted dropped in his lap with no effort. Issei's story is about a guy who starts with nothing and claws his way up the ladder, earning wealth and power and love along the way.
>>137173504 Then I don't know who you're talking about. I usually avoid harem animu because I hate how shallow and cliche-ridden they are. Testament and DxD are the only ones I've followed in several years.
>>137173530 Probably. I think I've seen one about Rito floating around?
>>137173574 I watched DxD and it was admittedly entertaining up until S3 happened while Testament was just something for me to laugh at. Funny how you've seemed to have picked the two out from the rest.
>>137173504 Shinmai is a blatant shitty rip off of DxD don't even bring up that cheap porn garbage.
If you can't even remember their names there is no way in hell they were even close to the magnificence that is Issei.
You people can bitch and moan as much as you want i'm just here for all the salt and whining when season 4 of DxD gets announced. It's just a matter of time now will most likely happen with novel 21 release.
I dunno, there were some parts of DxD that made a good attempt at being genuinely good. Asia's death scene in the church with Issei screaming for god or satan or anyone who will listen to save her was a high point of S1, even if they ruined it by putting a boob shot where it didn't help the mood at all.
>>137173311 >He's torn between being a pervert and having respect for the girls in his harem Actually, he's just traumatized over his pile-of-ashes first girlfriend who tried to murder him. By a certain point in the LN,he's able to get over it & enters a relationship with Rias.
>>137177671 If it weren't for the editor, Issei likely could have gotten laid by Volume 2. In fact, I applaud the author's "children from the future". It's a pretty creative way to bypass the editor's cockblocking.
>>137179185 >only good harem MC is a dead one >whole harem series where the girls are fighting over this corpse. >Whole series is them trying to be the first to reanimate him trough dark magic or whatever, and sabotaging each other.
The anime's first season was fine because it had good pacing since it mixed funny side stories with the plot. Season 2 and 3 are godawful, it takes way too long for anything to happen. Finally dropped it midway through S3.
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