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Why is this piece of shit considered not only one of Ghibli's best films, but one of the best animated films in general?

It was preachy and idealistic as fuck. Like most Ghibli films.
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>>137122714

Read the manga. Its the absolute opposite of preachy and idealistic.
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>>137122714
How the hell is idealistic a downside?
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>>137123822
Is there much of a difference? Same story, same writer. I cant see why anyone would feel the need to change much between the two, plenty of darker anime/manga were hit films.
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>>137123962
>How the hell is idealistic a downside?
You dont hate the scenes where a character screams about how terible killing/violence is, and just ends the fight there as a result, and problems get solved without additional deaths?
It's "if you kill him, you would be as bad as him" tier.
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>>137124147
Not really. I don't get mad about the "if you kill him, you would be as bad as him" shit, either, because I'm not an autist who gets mad when fictional standards aren't the same as reality's.
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I just want a goddamn war story not a stupid girl and her baby hermit crab.
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>>137124212
>'m not an autist who gets mad when fictional standards aren't the same as reality's.
Then they shoudlnt be trying to deal with realistic things like pollution of the environment.
Fuck in general it's bad because if they arent realistic they are generally shallow characters. You want a character who is realistic because they are more human and relatable, especially important if you want to deliver certain messages.
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>>137124015
You could make 15 movies with what the manga covered. The themes also change significantly.

It becomes less about conservation/respecting nature and more about how humans should change for the better in the face of annihilation.

The film was a shit adaptation, and if not for its incredible animation for its time and great score it shouldn't be considered one of Ghibli's best.
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>>137124419
>for its time
This was like two years before Akira, it's not as if anime movie animation has ascended to a new plane of existence since then.
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>>137124419
How does the man who wrote it, become director of the anime and then butcher it then?

My only answer would be he felt the message wasnt clearn enough in the manga and decided to turn up the preaching in the anime. Assuming the manga script was written first.

I will give the manga a shot, I did like the animation and the muisc. Hell I liked parts of the setting, the toxic forest being so pretty. But the cast is what killed it for me.
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Porco Rosso was the best Ghibli film tbqhmfam
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>>137124619
You realize he wrote the manga for two years before the film, and then for 10 years afterwards right?

He took what he had and the general idea of what was going to happen and squished it into a film as best he could. Unfortunately, compared to the rest of what he wrote later it ended up being shit.
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>>137124619
Like he said, the manga's simply too much for a single movie adaptation.
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Later Gainax were better and more creative than early Gainax. Diebuster > Gunbuster. FLCL > Daicon. Honneamise is overrated.

Birdy Decode is better than the OVA, people who complain about the more experimental styles (S2 episode 7 and 12) are idiots.

Osamu Dezaki is merely an average director at best.

Haruhi and Full Metal Panic are mediocre through and through. K-On, Hyouka, Nichijou etc. are far better series and more representative of Kyoani's golden age.

Evangelion's TV finale is the greatest anime episode of all time.

Ghost in the Shell is the pinnacle of anime, in its form and content (intentionally mechanical in nature). To compare it to the SAC series is disgraceful and the esteem for that show is unearned. Much of the supposed criticism for the movie (expository, unnatural dialogue) is far more severe for the series.

Medarot and Ojamajo Doremi are the best kids franchise of all time.

Ocean Wave is easily one of the best Ghibli. Howl's Moving Castle is one of the worst and Princess Mononoke is Miyazaki's shallowest movie.

Hunter x Hunter's 99 version is so far beyond the amateurish, boringly directed 2011 version, it's laughable.

The fact that the director of Alien Nine made such a sub-par adaptation like Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, is a shock.
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>>137124817
>Ocean Wave is easily one of the best Ghibli
Ocean waves was really boring though.
Omoide poroporo was better.
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>>137124817
Experimental TV anime like Space Dandy are a purely modern phenomena.

Aria is an overrated slice of life, the fact that there are a crowd of people who hold such a high esteem for that show while dismissing a far superior work (technically speaking) like K-On! for "lacking of substance" is baffling.

LOGH is politically questionable, has little merit beyond its grand ambitions to which it has never lived up to. As a visual work, it is a complete failure.

The monogatari series' direction turned to shit after Bake. Kizu's trailer was better than Nise, Neko, Second Season combined. The writing was always laughably bad.

The Alabasta arc in One Piece is complete garbage, socioeconomically trite and tedious.

Mamoru Hosoda's post-Toei works are all worthless.

Sato Junichi's work as a director peaked in the 90s.
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>>137124518
>it's not as if anime movie animation has ascended to a new plane of existence since then.

I wish I still had my Jin-Roh webms.
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>>137124752
>Unfortunately, compared to the rest of what he wrote later it ended up being shit.
Fuck you it wasn't shit even if it wasn't the whole story.
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>>137124419
Man, the manga was so good. I should re-read it one of these days.
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>>137124817
>Osamu Dezaki is merely an average director at best.
You're going to need to explain this to me.

>Evangelion's TV finale is the greatest anime episode of all time.
This is just shit taste, and explaining definitely won't change either of our minds, but I want you to know that it's shit taste anyway.
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>>137122714
I get this is bait, but like, are you really so new to anime that you haven't realized almost all anime series/movies are preachy and idealistic? And the series/movies that aren't preachy and idealistic are just called "edgy".
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>>137124752
Nope.
I know now, honestly I didnt even know there was a manga, whenever it's discussed it's always the film.

What are the chances of a remake?
>>137124765
I would be fine with multiple movies, or a series covering the entire thing. If the manga is better, part of me will be sad that it lacks the music.

>>137124817
>Evangelion's TV finale is the greatest anime episode of all time.
This alone invalidates your entire post.
I am still mad I wasted time watching that trash.
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>>137124869
Jin-Roh's best action cuts are top tier, but even those are "just" on par with Akira, and I don't think the whole thing's animation measures up, let alone surpasses it.
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>>137124869
two seconds of searching desustorage
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>>137124147
watch mononoke
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>>137125124
My favourite film would be Perfect Blue. It's neither edgy nor idealistic. I think it showed how amazing anime was by being able to blur delusion and reality so well. Black Swan is a piss poor clone that cant hold a candle to it.

>>137124868
>The monogatari series' direction turned to shit after Bake. Kizu's trailer was better than Nise, Neko, Second Season combined. The writing was always laughably bad.
Fuck you I liked Nise and SS.

>

Aria is an overrated slice of life, the fact that there are a crowd of people who hold such a high esteem for that show while dismissing a far superior work (technically speaking) like K-On! for "lacking of substance" is baffling.
Aria has scenery porn and a stress free atmosphere. K-on is more comedic, but Aria has the better setting.
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>>137125152
Sorry, but thanks anon.

>>137125150
I dont remember being as impressed with Akira as with Jin-Roh.

>>137125202
Already saw it, disliked it. I liked the character design, but it was still pretty overrated.
Not really related, but the anime series called Mononoke needs more love, shame it only got one season.
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>>137124868
>>137124817
I'm pretty sure you're just being a contrarian on purpose here. This sort of shit reads like it's coming from that Italian fag /mu/ follows.
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>>137125384
Gotta learn how to use that shit when your HDD fucks off and you lose your precious meme images.

And then Archive.moe dies anyways.
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>>137125282
>but Aria has the better setting
Which has little to do with how well it's directed and handled as an anime. In fact, I'd argue that the Aria anime did a disservice to its setting compared to the manga's art which really captures the beauty of Neo-Venezia.
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>>137125384
Mononoke gets plenty of love, lurk more.
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>>137124868
I think people just like Aria because it isn't set in high school. It doesn't really do anything better than other SoLs. I'm not crazy for the setting to me its just a decent SoL, and nowhere near as good as K-On, Hidamari Sketch, NNB, or even Tamayura
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>>137125442
I'm still rebuilding my folders.
But I will learn, and my folder will be bigger and lewder than ever before.

>>137125472
Not enough love.

>>137125447
No adaption would live up to the artwark of the manga, lets be realistic. It has nice music, it's animated, it's relaxing it's all it needs to be.
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why do people like Miyazaki?

he's movies are all pretentious liberal garbage
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>>137126262
>airing about the political leanings of an anime
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>>137126262

>he's movies are all pretentious eco-anarchist garbage

Ftfy.
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>>137126262
While I don't particularly love all of his movies you can't hate him for trying to make quality movies for CHILDREN in this industry almost full of moeshit and garbage for perveted adults.
If you don't expose young audiences to quality material early in their youth how do you expect them to have good taste in the future?
Also it's not like his political views are going to affect them either, the general message they get from his stuff is "war is bad" and "respecting nature is important so we don't roll in our own shit"
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>>137126962
> you can't hate him for trying to make quality movies for CHILDREN in this industry almost full of moeshit and garbage for perveted adults
Holy shit, where did you come from, and why didn't you stay there?
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>>137122714
I still don't understand how they made the film so much worse than manga
How the hell did they accomplish it?
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>>137126262

Fuck off politi-shit.
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>>137127199
See >>137124752
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I just need Nausica 4 cours TV series.
If it's good or not, must deserve Miyazaki's last work.
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>>137122714
>Unpopular opinions
Finally.

- Fairy Tail is more entertaining than Magi.
- GuP is incredibly overrated and filled with overused tropes
- Non Non Biyori is better than K-ON!
- Those who criticise Assassination Classroom have no right to simultaneously praise One Punch Man
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>>137125126
Hideaki Anno wants to make Nausicaa films. He'd probably cover the darker subject material.
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>>137122714
unpopular opinion on /a/: i like miyazaki and his films a lot
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The Majin Buu arc is the best part of Dragonball as it successful marries the silly comedy of early pre-Piccolo arcs with the high stakes drama of the Piccolo Daimao through Cell sagas.
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>>137126262
I'd enjoy reading your attempt to paint Castle in the Sky, Castle of Cagliostro or Totoro as pretentious.
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>>137129084
This isn't really an unpopular opinion as it is a polarised one.
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>>137128703

God I hope. I could forgive everything about Rebuild if Anno pulled off a faithful adaptation of the manga.
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>>137129376
Miyazaki is for it, as well. I think it would be interesting.

Anno basically worships Miyazaki, so I think he'd do a decent job. His favorite Miyazaki related work is the manga which is also promising. Only problem is that it would be in a LONG time, we're not even sure when the next Eva film is coming out.
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>>137122714
K-On is ten times as boring as Hyouka.
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>>137124817
you sound like one of those twitter faggots who think they know what they're talking about but actually don't
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>>137130275
not to say that you're not right about some of that stuff though
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>>137126262
I must say to see liberalism in japan, even in something so bound to nationalism like the wind rises, is impressive on its own especially knowing he is an old geezer.

Appreciate a little variety in opinion.
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>>137128565
GuP was a bit bland for me too and I have all the tanks autism one could ask for.
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>>137128565
Fairy Tail is more entertaining than Magi.
Fucking fite me in real life mate, lemme reck ur shit
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>>137125124
>so new to anime that you haven't realized almost all anime series/movies are preachy and idealistic?
Miyazaki films are a whole other level of preachy. And if you think all anime is preachy and idealistic, you should really watch more fucking anime. The only thing I'll positively acknowledge Miyazaki films for is animation.
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>>137126262
he's japan's moebius, except he's too safe-for-work
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>>137131051
I consider this post an insult to Moebius
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>>137131303
The 1988 print of nausicaa in english had an interview with Moebius and a four page wide insert of some fanart he did of the character. It's less insulting than you think.
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>>137122714
>>137123962
>>137124147
How was it preachy and idealistic? It's been a while since I watched the movie but I don't remember anything particularly insufferable.
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>>137131303
I always see people preaching moebius everytime he's mentioned but never see anyone discussing his works anywhere, what has he done to become so famous besisdes cool illustrations?
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Castle in the Sky sucked.

For the record I think all other Miyazaki films are at least 7/10.
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>>137124868
>Experimental TV anime like Space Dandy are a purely modern phenomena.
Is this supposed to be an opinion? First off, it's factually incorrect and secondly, what the fuck were you attempting to say?
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>>137132813
>you're wrong
>also what do you mean?
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>>137132087
Some quick photos 1/3.
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>>137124147

Killing is wrong. Get over it.
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>>137132503
I don't know what it ranks so high in many anons' lists, I thought it was too cartoony compared to the other movies and the humor often fell flat
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>>137132905
2/3
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>>137124419
>great score
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>>137132945
3/3
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>>137132285
He's just a meme.
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>>137125400
I don't think I have looked at /mu/ in at least 6 years but are you talking about Piero Scaruffi? If so than lol.
>>137124817
Interested to know why you are throwing shade towards Osamu Dazaki.
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>>137124752
He did also put many of the unadapted ideas from the Nausicaa manga into his other films, mainly Princess Mononoke. Princess Mononoke managed to be a better Nausicaa adaption than Nausicaa as a result.
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One piece > fairy tale
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>75 replies to a 10 year old

why?
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>>137132285
Considering that he's an artist, why would you be confused that he is well known for illustrations?
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>>137122714
Hibike was shit drama with all the tact and subtlety of a sledgehammer, and Hana to Alice did a similar central friendship between schoolgirls much better at almost the same time.
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>>137122714
Laputa was better anyway.
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I don't mind if an anime is not faithful to the manga, I think it can still be good in it's own right.
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>>137122714
>preachy and idealistic
Who gives a shit? If it's preachy and idealistic then it's preachy and idealistic without sacrificing the story and characters.

First of all I don't even agree that it was preachy, but let's set that aside. If you don't like the themes that a film presents, then that's your problem. The way it portrays those themes is great. They're executed well. It may have strong themes of conservation, but they're not heavy-handed. The story and characters are strong, and it's never hitting you over the head with obvious themes, they're well integrated into the tapestry of the world.

Now, Fireflies was preachy, in a terribly heavy-handed way. It was this stupid cloying guilt-trip with zero subtlety. The characters were retarded, the story was nonexistent, all for the purpose of playing up the guilt. Contrast this with Nausicaa. A rich world, a strong plot, well-developed characters. It has a message about environmentalism and shit, but the message is just as much in service of the characters and plot as they are in service of the message.

So do you hate anything with a strong message? Or do you hate anything with a strong message about conservation? Because if it's the first, then that's a matter of personal taste and I can respect that, but you should be able to understand that your tastes don't line up with the majority of the audience in that regard. If it's the second, then it's still a matter of personal taste, but it's also retarded. Nausicaa doesn't push the message any more than something like Haibane Renmei does, but nobody calls Haibane Renmei preachy. Isn't it just because Nausicaa's message is about environmentalism, and you don't like that message?

You're letting social context impinge on your enjoyment of anime. You're effectively Tumblr.
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>>137135988
This is also what I thought before I read the Nausicaa manga.
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>>137134122
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>137136252
This is an opinions thread, I think he's posting his opinions but quoting OP for some reason.
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>>137122714
Biorg Trinity is good.
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>>137124868
>LOGH is politically questionable, has little merit beyond its grand ambitions to which it has never lived up to. As a visual work, it is a complete failure.

I know all of the two posts are b8, but I actually agree with this. LOTGH is overrated as fuck. Its not terrible, but its not amazing by far.
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>>137122714
I have been watching anime since the late 90, and I still can't enjoy the moe and slice of life genre.

With a few exceptions all SoL and moe shows bore the hell out of me.
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Black Clover is fun as fuck and it ain't the next Naruto. But it is still ridiculous at times.

MC gets hella props for liking Christmas cake
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That's not the right pic but whateves
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>>137124868
>>137136459
>referring to "slice of life" as if it were a genre
Opinions discarded.
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>>137136519
Actually I referred to it as a form of narrative so fuck off.
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>>137122714
I'm >>137136143 and I almost certainly wouldn't have written this berating response had I seen the title of this thread. I thought this was just a "shitpost about Nausicaa" thread, but as it's an "unpopular opinions" thread I shouldn't be in here arguing with people and trying to shut them down, so I apologize.
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>>137136718
>as it's an "unpopular opinions" thread I shouldn't be in here arguing with people and trying to shut them down
I don't usually read these threads but I always thought that was the point.
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>>137124817
>Evangelion's TV finale is the greatest anime episode of all time.
Ocean Waves did little for me, but I agree with Howl and especially with Mononoke. Mononoke is a really bland film that is desperate to go out of its way to say, "hey, all the sides have their reasons for doing things," but lacks tact or genuine care for why anyone should give a shit.

>Hunter x Hunter's 99 version is so far beyond the amateurish, boringly directed 2011 version, it's laughable.

I am totally on board with you on this all the way. I couldn't believe how much better the original adaptation was.

>Evangelion's TV finale is the greatest anime episode of all time

I really can't help but feel a ton of people who hold this opinion are contrarian for the sake of it. It just bluntly retreads over themes that the main series has already covered, only this time with poorer writing and less subtlety. It's a gimmick that doesn't really solve any problem or result in any substantial catharsis, not does it actually match up with the developments that occur in EoE or parallel that in a meaningful way.
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>>137136656
It's a narrative technique. Aria and K-on! for example are categorically mixtures of iyashikei and comedy. I don't know which poster you are, but for the sake of argument, Aria uses slice of life pretty regularly, but can generally broken into some scenes having slice of life elements and plenty of others not. K-on! has relatively little slice of life, the vast majority of the show is some number of people between zero and six being in a room and talking to each other. It's a classic sitcom.

Saying that something is a "slice of life show" doesn't make sense. Slice of life is a tool which is used to establish tone or setup other pieces of the narrative. It's a means, not an end. And I'm just side-stepping how retarded it is to refer to something as a "moe show" as that's just empty inflammatory rhetoric.

And just for some context, there were things I liked about both K-on! and Aria, but I'm not a huge fan of either. Both were pretty good but not great as far as I'm concerned.
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>>137136810
If it's an unpopular opinions thread, I don't really see the point in replying with anything other than either, "you're right, that is dumb," or, "hey, I think the same thing!"
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>>137137270
You are too pure for this world, anon.
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>>137136810
These threads are just shitposting nests. Or it's just a safe place for people to spout their shitty opinions without being called faggots.
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>>137136143
>Now, Fireflies was preachy, in a terribly heavy-handed way. It was this stupid cloying guilt-trip with zero subtlety. The characters were retarded, the story was nonexistent, all for the purpose of playing up the guilt.
You didn't understand it at all. Read some interviews with the author.
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>>137137470
>author
Irrelevant. Read some interviews with the director.
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>>137137495
It's not irrelevant, as a lot of the character stuff that you're presumably complaining about comes from the author.
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>>137122714
It'a not best Ghibli but it's best Miyazaki definitely.
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>>137124817
>Gainax
True. But Honneamise is defintely underrated.
>Birdy Decode
True
>Dezaki
You can't look at that, it's true that directors after him outgrew him but he was a strong influence.
>Kyoani
Yup
>Evangelion
But EoE was the superior ending
>GITS and SAC
Not really. SAC was expository but the dialogue didn't feel as unnatural.
>Doremi
Probably
>Ghibli
Some of the worst opinions I've ever heard, besides the one on Howl
>Hunter x Hunter and FMA
Who the fuck cares
>>137124868
>Space Dandy
What? The trend for experimental tv anime is a thing that started in the mid 90s.
>Aria and Monogatari
Yes and yes.
>One Piece
Why did guy mix in shit in this whole pasta?
>Hosoda
Now that opinion is just retarded.
>Sato Junichi
Early 00s.
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>>137124868
>>137138849
Oh and of course, right on LotGH as well.
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>>137122714
There is nothing preachy about it. Go watch your Death Parade on repeat
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>>137125126
>honestly I didnt even know there was a manga
How? I was aware that Nausicaa had a manga years before I started reading manga, back when I was an anime-only fag. I don't understand how you could find your way to /a/ and not know this.
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>>137124817
>>137138849
>GiTS
I'm totally fine with the dialog ostensibly feeling unnatural. I don't really care about that, and it works in the context of the film. The whole point is that these characters are on the verge of becoming more than human, if their dialog is confusing and unnatural then it just better serves the themes of the film.

And that's where we get to my big problem with GiTS '95. That film has the most singular devotion to theme of anything I've ever seen. It's amazing, really. And those themes are beautifully, inexorably illustrated. The marriage of man and machine, becoming something more than human, the continued evolution of life on earth, etc. But for me, the sacrifices it makes for those themes are too great.

The main sacrifice, of course, is the plot. There's just not much of a plot to GiTS '95. Certainly nothing really satisfying. Maybe this is just a matter of personal taste, but I generally really like a strong satisfying plot. GiTS '95 was this really artful, beautiful, and abstract exploration of particular themes, and as such it was incredible. But too abstract for me to be hugely engaged by. I respect the hell out of it as a work of art, but I never really found it viscerally entertaining to the point where I'd want to regularly rewatch it.

SAC explored the same themes in a way which was much more practical and down to Earth, as did the original manga, and I found that more regularly engaging. Add to that a really complex, challenging, and novel plot, and SAC is one of my all time favorites.

Also, Jin-Roh was better. When you look at all this in the context of Oshii's work at large, it's apparent that he paints with a broad brush. He took GITS and turned it into Kerberos, and he took Patlabor and turned it into Kerberos, but it didn't work as well for either as it did for Kerberos (especially not Patlabor, what a cluster fuck that was).
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>>137122714
Because Ghiblifans are tasteless underage normies.
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>>137138554
This.
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>>137140084
I haven't really looked at it like that. To me the problem was the expository dialogue the poster I responeded to mentioned. It felt just too heavy handed and seemed add for a movie that tried to subtely present you certain themes threw both the situations and visuals to suddenly straight on tell you what you should think. To me the fact that it felt unnatural just made me pay attention to those pieces even more. It's as if a flaw I had with the film also had big yellow arrows pointing towards it. It's similar to how I felt about Kara no Kyoukai and Fate/Zeto (not saying they stand up to GITS in general of course).

Probably because of this I never really took the plot into much consideration when evaluating the work but I pretty much agree. There were some things that happened along the way that added to the themes. I particularly liked that scene where we see the guy who's been told his memories have been manipulated with but they can't do anything about that. Then we see a shot of Motoko which implies she speculates she might be just like him. Nothing is outright stated, but it also tells us a lot. But yeah, the general core plot really just serves as a means for other things, which wasn't exactly good.

In general, I prefer Oshii's earlier 80s works. Urusei Yatsura 2 and Angel's Egg are some of my favorite anime movies.
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The manga is always better than the anime adaptation.

The anime can be appreciated as a separate thing if it is different enough from the source (Ghost in the Shell), or the anime excels in technical aspects that don't apply to manga as a medium (Akira), because these are cases where comparison is impossible.

But in a straight comparison of 'which one told this story better' the manga wins 100% of the time. There are no exceptions.
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>>137140566
K-on!
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>>137140801
>K-on
>having a story
Pick one
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>>137140994
It has a clear story and your argument is bullshit, the kind of thing only someone with a tiny powerlevel would say.
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>>137140801
This. Almost all KyoAni adaptations are actually better than the source material, but interestingly, few are actually from manga. One could argue that K-on is a 4koma and that 4koma don't count as manga, but one would be wrong. One could also argue that the K-on 4koma is better because KyoAni removed all of Mugi's yuri-shipping tendencies and the Mio panty shot, but they'd be wrong again.
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>>137140566
Angelic Layer
CCS
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>>137122714
That's a good question, buddy. Easily the worst Miyazaki-Ghibli after Punyu.
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>>137140566
>The manga is always better than the anime adaptation.
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>>137122714
all ghiblis films are preachy man, you just have to move past the shallow pro-environment message
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>>137142089
>all ghiblis films are preachy
It was shit, but I dont remember a single message in Howl's moving castle.
Spirited away wasnt too bad either.
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Totoro is complete garbage. Fuck that little kid with her annoying voice.
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>>137140566
This is not an unpopular opinion, everyone will tell you that source material is better in 99% of cases.

However there's always that 1% where the anime director knew how to play the story better than the original. For example Ga Rei Zero.
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>>137122714
Shitty mary-sue main character.
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>>137142375
>Shitty mary-sue main character.

>Murders a bunch of men when she gets angry
>Cries about how bad killing is
>Couldnt protect her family
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>>137125152
this is great and all but it's also excessive, sparks don't behave like that and people certainly don't behave like ragdolls when getting shot. it lacks subtlety
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Charlotte was reasonably enjoyable and the last power being courage was great
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>>137122714
Because apparently there are many people who aren't shit-taste plebians, like yourself. You have no faculties to experience and enjoy art, and unfortunately you will never have. Go back the cringy/loli/moe/natruto-tier crap you're probably watching and continue being all that is bad in anime.
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Shuna no Tabi anime when?
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>>137142563
>likes preachy anime
>think he has the right to use the word pleb
LOL
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>>137122714
>piece of shit considered not only one of Ghibli's best films, but one of the best animated films in general?
Wrong picture I hope, that's not mononoke hime. NausicaƤ isn't even a ghibli film. It was pooped out to rake in the money to start ghibli. The story got fleshed out in the manga.
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>>137142563
Someone sure is buttpained by other people's opinions.

Not that I disagree mind you.
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>>137142480
Courage loli was my favorite part of the show.
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>>137122714
>Why is this piece of shit considered not only one of Ghibli's best films, but one of the best animated films in general?
Because it is.
The opening scene is a peerless masterpiece.
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>>137142475
welcome to animation
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>>137142192
Howl's Moving Castle was an adaptation.
The source material did not have airships or war.
The characters were toned down and whitewashed for a Japanese audience.

It's a good film, but it isn't nearly as charming as the novel.
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Gurren Lagann Ep4 used a better artstyle compared to the rest of the series.
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The Eva units look really ugly. Not an intentional kind of ugly, I mean just plain unappealing and poorly designed with ugly colour schemes and all these pointless details that clutter the things. They are perhaps the ugliest looking mechs in all of anime. A lot of this goes for the main trio's clothing too. Evangelion just had poor art design as a whole.

I actually think Eva would be one of my favourite anime the art design of all things really brings it down for me.
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>>137123822
Reading the manga made me hate the anime adaption even more because its so simplistic compared to it
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>>137122714
To me it is by far the best Ghibli Film, the characters are all great and have depth and the world is by far the most interesting, the story is awe inspiring.
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>>137124817
The only thing i agree on is HxH 99. And have not seen Alien Nine yet.
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>>137124817
What I can't understand is how someone can think Diebuster is not mediocre at best. Gunbuster is the best I have seen from Gainax
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Almost all Ghibli movies are preachy anon.

If they aren't whimsical "child goes on coming-of-age journey" stuff, they're usually "MAN BAD, NATURE GOOD!".

Don't say Graveyard of the Fireflies- Miyazaki had very little to do with it.
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I think imaishi should stick to animating.
People only remember Anno because of NGE.
I like Abe's artwork but it can be too depressing for me.
Diebuster is my favorite Gainax, followed by Hanamaru Kindergarten and Abenobashi, with an honorable mention to Houkago.
I really, really liked Kyoukai no Kanata.
Tamako Market was fantastic, and would have been a masterpiece if it had gotten a second season instead of a movie.
Overman King Gainer is the best /m/ show.
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>Overman King Gainer is the best /m/ show.
But the story! It was so terrible. No amount of crazy designs and dancing loli's could save it.
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>>137149350
I thought the story was pretty bare bones. Nothing really that bad or amazing. However literally every character was competent in their own way, and there was no annoying melodrama since it was meant to be a fun show.
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>>137148661
>If they aren't whimsical "child goes on coming-of-age journey" stuff

What's preachy about that?
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>>137148661
>almost all Ghibli movies are preachy
>Don't say Graveyard of the Fireflies- Miyazaki had very little to do with it.
Don't say Ghibli when you mean Miyazaki.
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