Best Girls, this is undeniable FACT!
No, I'm not. Beatrix may be my Schwarzefu, but Beatrix is my Franchisefu.
Gotta make room for Katia. Don't you know, she's the main heroine. Also, I wonder if they'll get to explaining Beatrix's line about Gretel growing up or if they'll leave it hanging (the two have history).
So these are polandballs's friends?
Which one is the TRAITOR?
She'll hopefully have her time to shine, as will all the girls.
Could growing the ahoge be what turned her evil?
Ask the Japanese, they seem to be urine connoisseurs.
I haven't read Schwarzesmarken, but exactly what have they cut/changed with Beatrix so far?
I know that she's
trying to buy time for people to flee to the West before the BETA inevitably overrun East Germanyor somesuch but it's not like the anime has had time to get into that yet.
LNfag here, please don't start this. This thread is fun, don't drag it down like this.
I'm still trying to remain optimistic about everything.
Funny, Iris is the one who loves tea.
That's what makes it so hilarious, she's all geared up, then at the last minute she's like "eh, they'll be fine".
I get both a guro boner and justice boner when thinking about her death.
She's so hot and sexy, but those looks aren't going to excuse her from all the evil shit she did, and she pays the price by getting that sexy body of hers crushed into paste.
They put in a couple of extra scenes to maximize her evilness while removing the other scenes that humanize her or add ambiguity, or just flat out changing them to put her in an evil light. That's about it really.
I kind of dislike the focus on Beatrix. I mean, other characters are getting it rough too. No one wants to talk about what they're doing to Gretel, who's a pretty major character all things considered.
i'm a bit confused. someone in an earlier thread said that alternative and unlimited were already translated, but then what is the kickstarter for? just so that it can get a console release?
It's pretty bad that you ask that every thread. Besides, even if Beatrix is one of the best girls, Katia still sets the gold standard for piss.
It's a pretty good VN honestly, go for it, though it might lessen your enjoyment of the anime. Actually, you could play the VN as you watch the anime. That way, you'll catch the changes. The VN still cuts some thing out from the LN, so if you want the whole story, you'll have to go for those, but like I said, it's a good VN and it's only 15-18 hours long.
It actually makes him way more tolerable. He doesn't sound like a sassy black woman. Also, VN Theo is way more endearing. Those facial expressions he has just makes you want to hug him. Then again, everyone is more huggable in the VN.
The shit he does is lot worse than in the anime, but he still manages to be way more sympathetic. Maybe it's just because he always looks like a kicked puppy, or maybe it's because his monologuing makes it easier for you to insert yourself into his situation and empathize with him (even if he's usually in the wrong).
>It actually makes him way more tolerable
I always found him tolerable and interesting but whenever he wasn't voiced I was annoyed because it seemed like it was cheap especially scenes I thought were important.
(e.g., 目的がある, 最後の灯火)
The timing does seem to be right for a Beato Maniax; age does them for those topping the chara polls (Akane, Haruko, Melvina), and she's topping the polls this time around (Irisdina doesn't count as she's a love interest).
Never since Yukarin doesn't do ero.
Closest thing you might get is Lise Maniax and she's the most popular heroine after Iris, but I'm not sure if her seiyuu still does ero.
No, YOU accept the Master as your incredibly dashing leader!
>anime will pull a "she was only pretending ;_;"
>"I was merely pretending guys, I'm on your side"
>Theo: Fuck you! *penetration intensifies*
FC, as in fan club, right?
Also, looking at 2ch and Baidu (Chinese 2ch basically) threads and they're getting pissed off at ignorant animu fags flooding their forums with their incomplete analyses or questions.
Yes, but how would /a/ react?
sounds of nukes intensifies
>FC, as in fan club, right?
Correct. The Maniaxes are fandiscs and normally don't get sold to non-FC members, and aren't necessarily plot contributors (AkaMani's Normal End being an exception as it leads directly into Extra; the True End is as wacky as Gohda's character can be). It's the reason /m/ and /jp/ was constantly saying back in '09 and '10 that
> HaruMani never
until somebody found and posted a HongFire link.
Grappler-kun, certainly is pretty cute, but he jobs to little girls.
Friendly reminder that the backerkit survery deadline is this week on the 20th
Don't forget to fill it out, especially if you want your gift bag delivered early 2016 instead of the fall.
>Where? There was that string of polls she won a few months ago but I haven't heard anything since. Did they have any new polls?
By "this time around" I meant as relating to age's release cycle. AkaMani for KimiNozo, HaruMani for Muv-Luv, MelMani for TDA/Chronicles in general, and __Mani for Schwaken. Only TE got left out it seems.
>Tell myself I'm going to use my Christmas money to buy the TSF Jacket
>Never get around too it since I'd have to open a new bank account and transfer funds and all that
>Still have all the cash but won't get my Jacket till the Fall
I'm going to my bank this weekend, but fuck I'm mad that I didn't get around to it sooner. Oh well, at least I'll get it.
Now all I gotta do is finally start working out so I can be swole enough to pretend I'd be a TSF Pilot instead of some scrawny drafted infantrymen
if I already filled it out can I go back and change things? I had to move a month ago and wasn't able to set up mail forwarding. I might have to move again in the next month or two so I may be fucked anyway though. is there an email I can contact to explain my situation?
you see Ivan, if you kite bloodsucker into bandits, you claim all kills for yourself
Only if you finally fuck your Brother Yui.
She's still single in the timeskip TSFiA short where she's in her 30s. What do you think?
Also that one or another implies the "test pilot" is Yuuya with an alias.
Does anyone else find it actually endearing how much Yuimouto wants her oniichan?
Artist was lazy with Yuuya's bangs and hair color
They show him getting in bed with Cryska in the PC version of the VN
Its not the first time Nip fan artists have made Yuuya look similar to Takeru.
Is there an updated pic of this? Just curious.
I've just started KGNE today and should finish it later today and then start working on Extra.
Setup a Windows XP VM to play through Extra too, so I don't have to deal with crashes during the playthrough.
Let's not jump the gun here.
MelMani was announced five years ago (for comparison, Haruka was only in a coma for three) and there's still barely any info about it. They haven't even updated the site since it was launched.
Why does the Stasi operate their own TSF squadrons? The way they are depicted they're reminding me more of the SS than of the actual Stasi. Literal nazi communists.
Depends on how detailed we want it to be. Manga adaptations aren't mentioned even though I think they existed when the picture was made.
Total Eclipse: LN/VN/anime finished. VN translation ongoing.
Schwarzesmarken: LN/VN finished and anime airing. LN translation ongoing. I've seen people talk about a sequel but I don't know about that.
This sounds like a job for the regular military police, the Kommandantendienst in case of the NVA. Although it's not impossible to imagine things got shuffled around thanks to the BETA invasion I guess, especially if >>136334242 is true and the Stasi has practically taken control of the state.
The wrist and fingers get to me
If given unlimited ammo and fuel, can Mobius 1 inside a Raptor destroy all the BETA on Earth by himself?
Just who thought fucking fripside of all musicians would be a good fit for Schwarzesmarken? They should've hired whoever recorded the 2nd Death Note opening instead, or even Linkin Park or whatever. If you're going to be edgy, at least go all the way and don't use half-assed j-pop. Goddamit.
Original poster here that asked the question. Thanks for doing this! Maybe include the Kickstarter information too like photonmemories/melodies being packaged, though since I still haven't gone through the VN yet I'm not really sure what they are about.
As an aside
KGNE is suffering. On Ep9 already, and this is depressing.
I'm pretty sure Photonmemories/melodies are just a collection of the already released side stories for PS3. Also the chart probably won't be done today, sorry, I'm remaking the thing from scratch.
I suppose it's chance, first contact with the BETA in Alter-verse is when one of human probe landed on Mars, so maybe the BETA only didn't know there was Earth until they found the probe?
>Extra-verse discover abandon BETA hives on Mars
Just remember that the KimiNozo and Schwaken animus share the same director.
As an aside the scriptwriter for the SM anime previously did that of Cross Ange, maybe he can also make the final fights here simultaneous on the ground and in the air.
>Manga adaptations aren't mentioned even though I think they existed when the picture was made.
The reason is that no one wanted to talk about the Extra adaptation (shitty artstyle), the Unlimited only has Tonigobe for its TL, and as far as the Alt mango is concerned Chen Gong dropped out long ago and Tonigobe's at his usual aeonal pace.
Oh that's interesting. I'm looking forward to getting more into the franchise. Should finish KGNE today, start on Extra on my Windows XP VM.
Even went for the $150 kickstarter though I hadn't played it.
I guess I'm trying to organize and update the list and make it look better(?), also adding an anime or manga section.
The one himecut girl from the second episode.
no, BETA are fine gentlemen that know how treat a woman
Well, you're half right
Katia aside, who's the best Schwarze for bullying? I'm think either Homura or PTSD will make good enough bullying material
So I just looked at the map,and shit doesn't make sense.
>arrive on Earth in 1973,in China
>Less than 10 years later,hives established in Europe and Finland
>BETA don't reach Japan until 1997
Is there a reasonable explanation for this or is this just another case of YAMATO DAMASHII?
Apparently when translating the OP lyrics, Commie couldn't be bothered to try and decipher what was being sung at this point. Is it even in Japanese?
It sounds something like
>RIDE YOUR SWORD IN EAST DIAZ AIR FORCE
>DESPERATE YEARS ARE I'M DESERTING MYSTES EVEN
>I WANT BE ALIVE IS BILL ENERGY
>SCHWARZES MARKEN OSLO
Can anyone crack it?
Ara ara ~ Eberbach-kun, so stubborn.
I remember seeing her 3 years ago was what got me initially interested in ML.
Is that the East German way to say she needs a good dicking?
Brand your sword in this east air force
Let's spread the killzone
Non deserting invincible
I won't be alive it's never eternity
I have no idea.
Gotta repopulate the human race, right?
Everyone SHUT TEH FUCK UP morons I'm marrying Beatrix.
Does it say something about the show itself or this board?
Treat her properly Anon, or Jürgen might curse you with Impotence from beyond the Grave.
Both. I think it's mostly pic related that kicks off most arguments though. Having both a huge fandom from the LNs, than gaining a huge hatedom from the anime will do that.
Considering everything else came true in BiS's foreshadowing of Beatrix, she might be the impotent one:
>Infertility, widow hood ,dying at a young age-not exactly what one would call lucky.
She's probably the best waifu in the cast, if she likes you. If she doesn't, well, your corpse won't look very pretty after she's done with you.
Here's the deal, /a/.
I really like Beatrix's design. She's designed pretty close to ideal, physical-wise for me.
Selvaria is good. Strict, murderer of enemies, but loving and dedicated too. That's how you should do overpowered hot army ara ara.
Meiko from PS and Esdese while far viler than Selvaria still have good sides -one more than the other-.
But Beatrix is so over the top evil. The first thing that comes to mind about her isn't how hot she is, it isn't how evil she is , it's how hilariously ridiculous her character is. Her edginess is so intense it's corny.
That's mostly the anime's problem. Her LN version is pretty different. Take the speech. In the LN, her speech is to the Werewolves and it's all about hyping them up, telling them that they're the best and reassuring them that they got a handle on the situation (they were sortieing against BETA, something they didn't do in the anime). She's showing off that she's charismatic, but in a somewhat neutral to positive way and that she understands her subordinates. It's also used to highlight her differences from Axmann, who'd spoken before her. In the anime, they changed it into some sort of fascist rally.
Also, Axmann and Beato really don't like each other and there's a lot of tension between the two, whereas in the anime they seem to go out everywhere together (to the point that some people think they're fucking).
In the LN, she doesn't take any particular enjoyment from executing defectors, and it's even presented as being reasonable. These guys had deserted with highly valuable military equipment and were fleeing to the West, this in a country that barely has enough bullets to give its soldiers.
There is a reason why at the end of the LN some Japs were saying she could've been a pretty good person if things weren't so shitty and even Kouki said something about her being more tragic than anything else.
Course the anime can't fit in everything, and Beato works very well as a straight up, edgy villain.
You mean Bourgeois, Comrade, Heresy is a Religious Concept, which has no place in the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
>but loving and dedicated too
That describes Beato too. Her boys/girls were so loyal to her that they'd follow her into the maws of a hive without hesitation. We haven't seen her interacting with her subordinates yet in the anime though.
She's already given her unconditional love to her highschool sweetheart.
>She doesn't "Ara~ara uhehehe" to Theodor in the anime
ALL OF MY RAGE!
You have the Party's permission Comrade, but you still need to get hers, and>>136349663
She might have cared for them, or it could have just been a very charismatic sociopath manipulating a bunch of lemmings. I like to think that the love her subordinates had for her was reciprocal though. Makes her more of a compelling character, and matches up with how she never had her men doing something distasteful or dangerous unless she was there doing it with them.
I doubt it. She becomes increasingly unhinged as the story goes on.
I still don't get why they'd add in shit to make her more evil and less sympathetic, especially considering she's the main heroine of their currently running LN series. She's already plenty evil in the LN, but it's a believable sort of evil rather than this over-the-top edge shit. I could see them cutting out all the scenes that humanize her because of time constraints, and thus ending up with a more sinister portrayal of her; that'd be fine, but why add the execution scene or change the rescue around?
Stop bullying her, Yuimouto had a hard life.
Lies. Yui is my waifu and we'll have a lovely family together.
I'm sorry anon, its time to move on and accept she only wants her oniichan's D.
I'm glad you found your waifu but it's not healthy to deny certain facts
You are the only one denying things.
The villains of the show are incredibly generic, stupid and their decisions make no sense whatsoever, even if we take cruelty into consideration.
The main character team consists of:
A broody, whinning guy who lost someone and now trusts no one
Team leader that most people don't believe because of something that happened in the past which is, most likely, going to turn around to be some huge missunderstanding because she did the right thing
And noisy, cutesy, loli girl which believes everything can be perfect in an unperfect world (and it's most likely going to be in the end).
I don't really hate generic stories all that much, it's incredibly hard to make something original nowadays. South park explains it incredibly well in one episode where they keep pointing out the things Simpsons did.
However. This show is not even trying. Mecha scenes are the only redeeming quality so far.
I can't bring myself to like any character so far. Any, good or bad. MC whines too much and keeps pointing out how he is going to do his duty and follow order only to question every, single, order, ever, given. Just how many times can you have a character repeat "why me"? IN THE MIDDLE OF A BATTLEFIELD!
The commander girl is just another good girl presented bad because we need a reason for our MC not to like her, but ultimately he learns the truth, yada yada yada.
Aaaaand then we get to the last girl, an optimist. Oh boy...In a world where humanity is facing possible extinction, commanders in charge are as stupid as they get, there she is, with smiles and joy and happiness and everything else. Ugh, I can't even begin to describe how much I hate her.
Support characters didn't really get a lot of screen time so far, can't judge them too much. There's fatherly figure in general, onee-sama figure, the silent but strong guy, retarded villains etc.
Anon, accept the truth and move on. Yui is brocon and into only wincest. Even when Corporal Yamamoto stayed behind at the Russian base to help Yui, she was aware he was only doing it out of attraction to her and she didn't care.
She only wants her brother's D.
Your lies will never dissuade true love.
What they're doing to the stasi is really dragging down the show. Beatrix is no longer the intimidating sexpot, and Schmidt is no longer the slimy master manipulator. They're just laughable. I can't take them seriously. Every time they pop up on screen I giggle. Seriously, drinking tea EVULLY as everybod dies. How am I supposed to take the politics seriously in this when the villain faction acts like AkG villains? Who makes this up anyways, it's hilarious. It's like a 14 year old's understanding of villainy.
The LN wasn't really any better. The stasi simply IS laughably evil in this grimdark tale. Beatrix being more flirty while being subtly intimidating at the same time would be nice, but be real now, who's ever going to take someone like Herr Ketchup the least bit seriously? Schwarzesmarken's stasi has always been something of an overblown Gestapo parody.
Yeah no, the way they're portrayed here is much more simplistic and childish
>Hurrrrr your commander is gonna kill u cuz she killed her brotha!
>Hey it's completely off topic but I was the one who tortured you back then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>We don't need to plot a false reason for being late in the battlefield, let's just drink tea!
>I'm literally Hitler!
What the fuck
>take the politics seriously in this
>We'll rule over the country and if we have to sacrifice the country for it!
It's retarded any way you slice it, worse than the Sagiri coup. Beatrix evily trinking tea is the least of SM's problems.
>We don't need to plot a false reason for being late in the battlefield
LN never really confirmed Iris, but she was probably right. Beato's excuse seemed pretty flimsy even with the MiG-23s being PoS. Of course, if she did have technical issues, Beatrix would still of said the same shit just to piss off Irisdina.
>I'm literally Hitler!
That scene was pretty ridiculous.
This anime making me change my opinion on Beatrix. I'm beginning to actually hate her, more than Axmann even. She seriously reminds me of one of those bad villain parodies, somebody who's dedicated to evil, obsessed with it, and tries to be as horrible as possible for no real discernible gain.
It seriously makes everything in BiS look like a very bad joke.
Do you guys think she was evil from the get-go, like even back when she was still just a lonely tsundere crushing on Jürgen?
This could be better, if you're going to have multiple Takemysushis, add in the other Terminator, Berkut, and Raptors; i.e. YF-22, EMD Phase 2 Raptor, Terminator/Su-37 M2, Su-47, etc....
Who else is hoping for more Katia bullying in the future?
I'm still struggling to understand how being used as a cumdumpster makes you so smug
It still awes me that there are people out there with enough shit taste to like this whore
She's Kouki's favorite. That makes her alright in my books.