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How would you have handled the situation?

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How would you have handled the situation?
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Woah, floating kanji in front of tits, what do?
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>>136301482
Massage the breasts. The kanji might just disappear.
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Tell her to button it, she could catch a cold.
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Dick her. She might just go full crazy and leave the empire.
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Squeeze. Maybe icecream comes out
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>>136301171
I would have teleported behind her and stabbed her with my twin katanas.
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>>136302511
Why would you want them to disappear though? Wouldn't it be cool as fuck to have floating magical kanji in front of your chest?
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>>136302622
There was no way to tell if she really wanted to get dicked. You can't just go around and fuck hot women because you are so sexually frustrated.
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>>136302837
>You can't just go around and fuck hot women because you are so sexually frustrated.

Not with that attitude.
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>>136302622
>implying you could beat a superhuman super soldier than cover an entire city in ice
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>>136302837
>You can't just go around and fuck hot women
Says you.
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>>136302710
almost as edgy as this show...


but I would probably have just sided with her. I am a pretty ethical person IRL but apathetic when it comes to being moral. In a horribly corrupt fascist state like in AGK I would definitely side with esdeath. She's so powerful and sexy that I would have no issue being her house-husbando and dicking/cuddling with her after a long day of genocide.

Same goes for Beatrix desu senpai. I would have no problem being either of their manslave.

who needs morals when you have a loving waifu?
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let her have her way with me until I would be a complete mess of overstimulated neurons
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>>136302969
You call the show edgy and then write a paragraph of the edgiest bullshit on 4chan right now? Really?
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So many titties
so little time
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>not dicking this
I don't understand.

This just begs him to get fucked and he says no. What the fuck.
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>>136302969

>"we must become united under the all-powerful State to stop the BETA!"
>i'll head out right after i'm done sipping my tea slowly.

good job doing something that's objectively weakening your military capability when the BETA are literally on your nation's doorstep, you silly stasi kraut.
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>>136303158
Homosexuality is a serious disease.
It could hit you too.
Be aware. Be safe.
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>>136301171

I only have a vague recollection of this story but didn't the MC come out of left field and choose the most uninteresting girl out of the entire main cast?
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>>136303219
>It could hit you too.
>Be aware. Be safe.
What do you suggest, senpai?
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>>136303418
Shit Jeso13 claimed my waifu. What do?
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>>136303440
Cuck.
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Cancershit thread, ahoy.
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>>136303543
You must be posting in almost every thread on /a/.
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>>136303543
>STOP MAKING THREADS ABOUT ANIME I DONT LIKE
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>source material tops literally everything
>but source material will never let her have her way with anyone
I just want her to forcefully love someone tenderly, is that so much to ask?
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>>136303809
A VN would have been highly fappable.

>>136303069
You should always take your time for each pair.
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>>136303982
A VN was supposed to be made, but takahiro wanted an anime instead
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I'd confess my rebellious allegiance and suggest that I might be willing to switch sides with little torture, if she lets me keep Leona as our pet.
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I wouldn't have fucked her.

If there is one thing my brother stressed to me is to never ever fuck crazy.
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>>136303042
senpai I accept the edgyness of the show. I like it, even though it is edgy as fuck, because it is edgy as fuck. I am an autist who enjoys edgy show's sometimes. Sue me.

also I feel obligated to post at least a small paragraph every time I post.
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>>136304344
>I like it, even though it is edgy as fuck, because it is edgy as fuck.

What does that even mean?
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>>136304290
calling the cute girl "crazy" = a reflexive response to a host of behaviors that men find inconvenient or undesirable
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>>136301171
With both hands.
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>>136304405
same reason I listen to horrible rap music like wocka flocka: I accept that I have shit taste. I love it regardless.
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What's the cup size of her danger breasts? G?
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>>136304452
>2016
>not going hard in da paint
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>>136304600
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>>136304600
>>136304649
>not getting yourself a shota harem

Beta as fuck.
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>>136304649
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>>136304674
She isn't a whore. She only wants his smile.
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>>136304570
BROTHER!
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>>136301171
The revolutionary army would be able to kill the prime minister without anyone in their way since I would be too busy fucking her all the time and I don't even like the RA.
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>>136302969
>I am a pretty ethical person IRL but apathetic when it comes to being moral.
Ethics and morality are synonymous you dumb goy.
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>>136304719
She is a WHORE and a fake in the love
Im not defending the Shit of mine
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>>136305110
no they arent you fucking moron. Ethics are following society's rules and what you are taught is right and wrong.

Morals are your personal feelings on what is good and bad.

there is a lot of overlap but they are two separate concepts.
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>>136305315
It's literally the same because ethics make moral claims. Nobody would claim that something is ethical but immoral, while being honest.

This paragraph is designated to calling you a fucking retard.
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>>136301171
nothing because this situation will never happen
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>>136301171

Kill her because she didn't develop her special move yet.
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>>136305300
Hey whether or not she's worse than Hitler you can't accuse her or being a whore. Don't go spouting that word about every female character you dislike.
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>>136305384
>le boat is full of people and you gotta dump somebody meme moral conflict

there are plenty of 'do what's best for me and those I love' vs. 'do what is best for society as a whole' conflicts
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I get that he was in love with someone else, but if it's between sex, and pissing of somebody who just killed like half a continent, I'd go with the sex. I might not like it, but I would comply with the demands of a killer ice queen.
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So wasn't she only with the government because "survival of the fittest" and the government was strong enough to rule? Couldn't he have just explained that Night Raid was clearly the stronger side and the only reason the government was staying in control was due in large part to her own strength? Like when she was on the government side they still couldn't get rid of Night Raid and the rebellion, but if she were to join Night Raid they would probably overthrow the government soon after.
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>>136306153
I thought that part of the reason for her fighting was for the thrill of battle? IIRC she mentions keeping some of her victims alive so that they'll become stronger and possibly give her a challenge later.
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>>136306262
But again, wouldn't it be even more thrilling to go up against the army controlling the country?
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>>136303013
This kid gets it.
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>>136306560
True but considering she's the Empire's strongest person, she'd be bored shitless. She also looks forward to facing off against Night Raid so it defeats the purpose of joining them.
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>>136301171
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>>136304719

Why does he look so terrified?

The little bit I know about this series she is some very powerful, strong and super hot to boot woman that wants to be his and his alone.

But he has the face of a guy that looks like he was just told he is about to get his eyes gouged out....

Am I missing something?
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>>136302969
Ow the edge.
Why can't you keep it simple and just say
>nothing personnel
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>>136310340
She's a hard S.
I'd probably be a little scared too.
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>>136310340
She's a remorseless genocidal psychopath who could snap him like a twig. Worst girl, bar none. The only excuse people have for liking Esdeath is ignorance. But if you want tits, Leone's right there.
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>>136310694
Tits? I think most people that like Esdeath have masochistic fantasies and probably go to perverted parties irl too.
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>>136302837
>There was no way to tell if she really wanted to get dicked.
>implying
You could hear the sound of her gushing pussy from the north to the south border of the empire. Do you require God personally to grab your dick and jam it into her vagina to make it clear?
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Kill the Giant Danger Breasts
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>>136302622
Wasn't the scene where she has him in bed and is all but begging him to give it to her?
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>advocates survival of the fittest
>swears total devotion to a boyish manlet
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>>136310865
some people just like to see strong women submit to the power of dick.
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>>136301171
Give her a kiss and tell her i love her.
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>>136312530
>a manlet with general tier potential.
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>>136310865
Im an S as well, still like esdeath.
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[ ] Cum inside
[x] Cum inside a lot
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>>136310694
>worst girl
Then why weren't you talking about mine
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>>136312530
>too dumb to realize her strength is essentially keeping the weak in control
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>>136312570
This. Breaking an innocent submissive girl is fine, but breaking a girl like revy or esdeath makes me diamonds.
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>>136312817
It seems pretty clear-cut to me. I was talking about the worst girl in AgK, which is Esdeath, not one of the best girls, like Mine or kurome.
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Leone > esdeath > Chelsea > that rakasha demon lub killed > scissor lady > Najeda > rest are shit
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>>136301171
attack the danger breasts
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>>136313054
>liking Chelsea
I mean I guess she looks nice? Her entire time was basically spent being introduced, fall in love with Tatsumi for no reason and then die. Completely wasted character.
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>>136312881
Anyone have the screenshot of the reactions to the Mine confession chapter?
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>>136301171
I would tell her I am an undercover member of Night Raid and that I will never join her cause, nor engage with any sexual relations or activities with her. So she can just put her slut general clothes back the fuck on before I turn that castle we're sleeping in, into a got damn battle zone.

I'd fucking wreck her shit before she has time to summon any ice weapons to attack me and blow up half the building, while all the other jaegers are trying to figure out what's going on, I would have made it far enough to hide in the city streets until leaving the city.
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>>136313430
Watch those edges kid.
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>>136313239
Also she killed bols. Really hard to care about her death after that. Even worse thinking as to what happens later as a result of bols not being around.
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>>136312530
cute
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>>136301171
Like Tatsumi did.
Try to convince her if not she can fuck herself.
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>>136303418
>that image
>literally no high res anywhere
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>>136313671
Yeah, but at least his family was alright. His service in the military left them financially well off. His wife was glad to know she had helped such a troubled man during his life while his daughter did all she could for those who struggled, knowing her father would have wanted something good to come from his life. And that is all.
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>>136310340
Because he's another fucking faggot anime protagonist that won't ever fuck girls because japs cant get their tiny limp dicks up and therefore if he does fuck a girl all the angry jap dick manlets will go into an autistic fit

Yes I'm mad, this happens way too fucking much.
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>>136314270
But he did dick Mine.
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>>136314270
>mc gets a shot to bang hot chick
>refuses
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>>136314270
He fucked one and is crazy for her.
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>>136313857
>she can fuck herself
can i watch
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How come you can create such 10/10 girls on a 0/10 story? VN fucking when?
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>>136314595
Never, the guys at Minatosoft told Takahiro that they didn't want to do it so he went to Square Enix.
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>>136314052
>And that is all.

I am fine with that
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>>136314052
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>>136302969
>>136304452
>>136304570
REMOVE STASI WHORES
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>mfw people hate Esdeath purely for the sake of being contrarian
If Esdeath was on the protagonists' side you cucklords would be all over here.
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>>136314052
Did you fucking forget Bols was a got damn murder who slaughtered thousands and burned down villages where innocent people lived? Cause I sure didn't, Chelsea didn't do shit bad when she gave that fucker a nice, clean respectable death.

I personally enjoyed the after thought about his family struggling, that fucker didn't even deserve one.

I guess if a murderer was a nice man, you'd want him to have a good life right?
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>>136315377
Help, help, I'm reading Esdeath with Beatrix's voice now.
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>>136315628
Edgier than the show right here.
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>>136315638
Here take this
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>>136315728
Perfect. Just what the doctor ordered.
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>>136315705
>Defending a murder and happy he had a good life
>Calls me edgy

Are you being ironic?
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>>136301171
Have sex and then fled.
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>>136315401
She'd be best girl if she didn't snap into a sadistic mass murderer now and then, but then agin she does.
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>>136315401
>If Esdeath was on the protagonists' side you cucklords would be all over here.
This. Some people just dont understand Darwinism and being in the fucking army.
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>>136315887
No I wouldn't, had Esdeath joined Tatsumi. I would have boycotted the manga. And besides that, Wave would probably take the lead of the Capital's forces and used some kind of asspull to make himself and his armor stronger than Esdeath OR Tatsumi and the entirety of Night Raid's forces.

Wave on his own would want to murder everyone including Esdeath because in his mind they are trying to bring pain to Kurome.
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>>136315860
You'd be crazy too if you grew up in a kill-or-be-killed environment in the far northern reaches of the world, growing up as an absurdly powerful child and eventually drinking Danger Beast blood.

In any case, it's not insanity. She possesses rationality, it's just that she's a complete and utter psychopath.
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Idiots. The fact that she is otherwise a complete psychopath makes it all the better.
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>>136316002
>I would have boycotted the manga.
Legitimate autism right here
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>>136301171
sex her, love her, and bend her to my will with love. then when revolutionary army wins, i love her all the more and replace her need for fighting with love. like momoyo of majikoi.
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>>136316094
Yeah because sticking your dick in someone crazy is totally safe and justified right?

Had Esdeath knew Tatsumi was apart of Night Raid at that time she would have cut his cock clean off with ice if he tried to fuck her.
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>>136316138
>bend her to my will with love
Enjoy that monumental challenge. May take a while.

>replace her need for fighting with love
Even more challenging.

>>136316220
>she would have cut his cock clean off with ice if he tried to fuck her.
Evidently you didn't pay attention to the manga or even the show. She says herself that she doesn't give two shits what he's a part of as long as he becomes hers.
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>>136315401
i'm already all over here
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>>136316220

Didn't read the manga? She finds out later and doesn't really care.
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>>136316458
ur a cheeky cunt m8
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>>136313879
The SAMPLE is strong.
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>>136311363
You are wrong. What she really wanted was shoving her thing into his boipucci but she restrained herself to do it step by step.
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>>136303227
Yes for the anime, but the manga takes a different route where he ends with OP pic.
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>>136304447
dammit, I was literally just about to post that.
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>>136301171
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>>136304719
>She only wants his smile.
and his penis, don't forget his penis.
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>>136319317
Esdeathfag, please. She's dead.
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>>136304719
She's a slut and she's evil. Don't stick your dick in crazy, anon. You might just not get it back.
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>>136319672
Woah. Don't be mean. Esdeath just comes from a warrior culture. She still can love
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>>136319467
Is that Get Backers?
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>>136319718
The only thing she deserves to be inserted into her vagina, is a 12-foot steel-tipped pike to display her corpse on.
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>>136304412
>a reflexive response to a host of behaviors that men find inconvenient or undesirable

Well yeah. It's one thing to fuck you. It's another to put up with having your ass around afterwards.
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>>136319563
She isn't, you dumbass, according to the anime, the only thing that could kill her is Akame's trump card, which now ceases to exist thank to Wave thus Esdeath's become unkillable in this route.
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>>136319851
What, did esdesth kill your waifu?
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>>136319957
Who gives a hoot about the anime? Tatsumi's giving it his all for Mine and Wave's given it his all for kurome, this is a whole 'nother route.
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>>136306560
Yes, but Esdeath isn't just a mindless berserker, she's also very smart thus she chooses the best decisions for her way of life. As shitty and corrupted as the current government is, Honest at least is a man of his words. As long as Esdeath doing her job well, he would keep his part of the deal and let her do as she pleases without trying to do anything funny behind the scene. But the same thing cannot be apply for the rebels, Esdeath clearly sees through their true nature, which was demonstrated at the end of the anime. They're all backstabbers who would betray and try to kill their comrades to monopolize all power for themselves as soon as their enemies are defeated, Akame learnt it the hard way.
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>>136303158
At this point, it should have it's own trope name
>Woman throws herself at MC
>MC tells her no, even though he really wants to
>TFW we will never get a decent anime where the MC goes through with it and his regret in doing so serves as character development.
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>>136310340
>Am I missing something?
Yeah, the fact he is a gay, spineless beta faggot.
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>>136320088
That's what I want to say, the anime and the manga are two different route, Esdeath died in the anime but survives in the manga.
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>>136320253
>trope
I want tvtropes fags to go away.
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>>136319851
I LOVE YOU ESDEATH-TAICHOU!
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>>136320323
No, she dies by Tyrantsumi's hand in the manga. Do you really think she stands a chance against him even with her 'army'?
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Esdeath seems like she wouldn't be satisfied with anything less then an industrial demolition jackhammer.
Tatsumi probably stopped himself to save her the disappointment and in turn the spine snapping when she gets bored of him.
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>>136320205
did you even watch the ending of the anime? or are you just pulling this analysis out of your anus? Akame volunteers to take the fall for all the excesses of Night Raid. She chose to do that, no one forced her. She's a killer, and she knows no other way of life. Settling down under the new administration isn't in the cards for her.

To quote one Army Special Forces officer:
"I suppose that in any well-ordered society people like us would be locked up or shot. But then you would have to get people like us to do the locking up and shooting."
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>>136320361
She still has a hidden trump card and who know if she can still create more? Meanwhile it's just a few more time and Tatsumi will succumb completely to Tyrant. Maybe this time it's the ancient monster will be the last boss, making Esdeath and Wave join force to defeat it.
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>>136320509
I just said, even with her 'army' she's doomed. That's her trump card, loser, you can't even pay attention to the series.

Your fanfiction has no basis. Wave's gone, and now it's Akame's fight against Tyrant.
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>>136301171
Literally fuck her, if I was the MC she's the guy I've been looking for it's just selfish to say no to someone that attractive that's looking for someone to be with for the rest of her life, who knows she could become less crazy when she has someone to protect.
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>>136320370
I don't know, she seemed pretty infatuated with everything about Tatsumi. He could give the most disappointing dicking in the world and she'd still probably be getting off just on the fact that it's him.
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>>136320585
She became pretty girlish in bed. She would probably comfort him and practice sex.
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>>136301171
By ejaculating inside Esdeath until she is so pregnant she cannot fight and have the resistance attack while we fuck off to the woods to fuck off.

Tatsumi not fucking her will continue to be the dumbest moment the manga has had besides the time with the island.

>Literally just get done explaining to him that assassins need to do things they dont like to take down their target
>He immediately has a golden opportunity to do so and refuses
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>>136301171
Give her the dick and see if she would become a better person.
If you can't beat a female in a fair fight to the death, fuck her.
You have nothing to lose, if she joins you thats a win and if she kills you, you got laid before you died.
Win Win Situation
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Did Wave win Kuromebowl yet?
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>>136320443
I know she volunteers, but it was only because they made it looked like there should be some scapegoat to take all the blame, so obviously Akame would think it's her role. The point here is those bastards wanted some idiot to play the dark knight so that they would look innocent and rule the country without worry, instead of committing themselves to solve social problems thoroughly like any proper government should do. I don't know about you, but making your comrade take all the blame, ruining their reputation and threatening their life are the very definition of betrayal in my book.

And you know what's more irony? The sentence you quote basically means to maintain order in any well-ordered society, there's always the need for people like Akame to world under the government. She's the equivalent of our special forces, whose job is to kill people, meaning they're killers too. Or do you believe we don't need them too?
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>>136320889
I dunno anon, you tell me.
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>>136320889

Yes, he defects with her from the empire.
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>>136320947
Wave is so alpha he should've been the MC.
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>>136320553
>The retard believes Esdeath's army of all things is her trump card while the author still hasn't said what it was
One more thing, either this is the first manga your read or you are under 12 to think Wave won't appear against to fight at the last battle.
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>>136321019
The author said he planned on making him the mc half way through the series.
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>>136321043
>the author hasn't said what it was
Spotted the moron.
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>>136313239
>>136313671
I'm just talking hotness factor don't care about personality.

Leone is still best girl even if you put in personality though.
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>>136312852
It's not the about who is the guy in charge, otherwise Esdeath should have crowned herself queen since she is the empire's strongest. It's about the social structure. The empire's system ensure the strong have all the rights to prey on the weak, which fits her philosophy, while the RA wants to protect the weak, which's against it.
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>>136321092
>Some vague words and he really believes he know what her trump card is
Thank god the author's intelligent level is higher than you. Otherwise he would have really spoiled something that important this early.
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>>136321276
>intelligent level
oh i am laffin pedro
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>>136321308
Which is why we need Trump. Fucking pedro.
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>>136320940
I'm probably gonna take hell for this but...

I think the real problem with AgK, both the anime and the manga, is that the author has no understanding of the dynamics of history. No state subsists on fear alone, not for any meaningful length of time anyway. Every empire has always offered something to even the lowliest of peasants. Rome gave out grain, and brought peace and civilization to the provinces. Napoleon rode across Europe not only with his armies, but also with the promise of liberty, equality, and (locally) democratic government. The British took over India not only with guns and bullets, but also with healthcare and infrastructure.

It's a very Japanese thing the notion of sacrificing the honor and dignity of some individual in order to preserve those things for the group. In fact, that motif is almost omnipresent in Japanese culture, the economy, and politics. http://www.thejapanfaq.com/FAQ-Primer.html can explain this a lot better than I can. It still comes across as clumsy, and even treacherous in this context, at least to our Western eyes, but it's not without precedent even here. Robespierre was ultimately chosen as the fall guy for the Reign of Terror, and he also paid, probably unjustly, with his life for that.

Revolutions are messy things, anon.
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>>136320640
>ruthless soldier
>ruthless general
>strong as shit
>girly in bed
>coaches both you and herself through sex
>laughs to lighten the mood when it gets awkward eliciting chuckles from you as well
>wants to cuddle afterwards for the afterglow
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>>136315628
>Bols was a soldier acting on order from a legitimate goverment to kill who they deemed enemies of the state
>Chelsea was an assassin working for a shady rebellion moment to kill government's officers
See the different?
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>tfw manlet and would feel emasculated and beta dating Esdeath

FUCK MY SHit up
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>>136321393
>I think the real problem with AgK, both the anime and the manga, is that the author has no understanding of the dynamics of history
I absolutely agree with you, this author has no understanding about history and revolutions, for he is a Japs and Japan had no real revolution in their history. I don't really understand their honor and dignity thingies, but I think their rank and class based society is also another factor, right?

About Robespierre, he became the scapegoat because he failed. Should he be able to remain in power, he would probably have been hailed as the new France's founding father, the same way Soviet's Lenin was (coincidentally, Lenin also frequently defended Robespierre in his speeches).

But leaving those real life reference aside, what's canon in the story is the rebels did put the blame on their comrade right after they won, implied their treasonous nature, thus Esdeath's decision to not join them was justified.
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>>136313239

I really liked the fact that she acted like a real assassin. It would have become boring and problematic for the plot if she had keep stabbing people in their necks while they have their guards down though.

>>136313671

Well, Bols and the other jaegers were trying to kill them. Would you really judge a character for murdering a murderer that wanted to murder her and her friends? It's like Lelouch says, if you're going to shoot, you better be ready to get shot.
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>>136301171
Teleport behind her and kill her with one hand tilting my fedora.

as she dies she says "...早い..."
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>>136321150
But people like the minister are the weak ones, and she seems to be aware of it to an extent. You'd think she'd be able to realize that the system she's part of is just another way for the weak to assert themselves and without the cooperation of stronger individuals like her, they'd be unable to rule.
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>>136322223
It's not exactly unusual for 'fall guys' to exist, anon, there's the reason the term exists.
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>>136322417

The Prime Minister must have some deal of power, also even Esdeath has to know that there's other kinds of power in the real world. If we weren't to just apply survival of the fittest, we wouldn't have ever progressed from tribalism to civilization.

You can think that, while the Prime Minister may be weak, he actually provides something Esdeath cares for. So, it's in her best interests to let him live and "work" for him, which is basically doing whatever she wants. The Prime Minister has to handle a lot of shit, while Esdeath only has to kill some specific fuckers, something she likes to do anyway, and gets to enjoy the highest status her society can offer.
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>>136322417
You seem to be under the impression that "weak" or "strong" is solely defied by one's physical strength. As I said, if that was the case, Esdeath should have become queen herself to fit her philosophy. Honest is "strong" in the sense that he waves massive political power to order people doing what he wants. The social model Esdeath agrees with is where the "strong" (politically or physically) can do whatever they want toe the "weak" and the state has no problem with that, basically, a society ruled by the law of jungle, while the rebels advocate a system where they promise even the weak will be protect by the law. She doesn't care if they can actually rule with or without her, she just want to see a society ruled by her philosophy.
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>respects her comrades and doesn't kill innocents except rebel scum.

Why is she considered pure evil?
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>>136321393
>eye-hurting white text on black background
>romaji instead of 平仮名、 let alone 漢字
I can't deal with this.
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>>136320253
Have you ever seen school days by chance?
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>>136322913
She tortured some faggot off screen once.
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>>136322591
Hell, the Japanese were the pioneers of the modern-day doctrine of "Everything is the commander's fault".
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>>136322223
Think about the amazing little fact that the Japanese imperial dynasty has never been overthrown, despite having existed for long that it stretches back into the realm of myth, and you realize just how unusual Japanese history is. People tend to write what they know, and I think therefore it's easy to see just how the author managed to screw this up.

I get that it's fictional, but I'm sorry, it really broke my suspension of disbelief way too often for my tastes. As long as the characters are humans, we expect them to behave as humans do, and therefore the laws of historical gravity fall into place along with them.

Revolution is not so much a right as it is a fact. As long as it takes people to control people, the population of any nation has within it the power to control its own destiny. Very few anime get this correct. Most revolutions in Japanese media are depicted as primarily the actions of one important person, usually the MC, and perhaps a small band of his (and it's almost always "his") followers.

A good Western analogy would be Germany. Notice how two of the countries that fell to fascism are also the two with the historically most conformist cultures? However, Japan, unlike Germany, has really never reconciled with its history. Sometimes it feels that if not for WWII and the total surrender, Japan would still be a very authoritarian state. Japan's past wrongdoings aren't acknowledged; they're scrubbed from the textbooks.

I think this all very much has an impact on anime, especially those that deal with broad societal issues like AgK, KLK, SAO, and GiTS. Not coincidentally, they also seem to be the hardest for us Westerners to relate to. It's like the opposite of looking through a microscope: everything looks normal up close, but it starts getting weird once you zoom out.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I didn't want to leave any mistaken impressions by shortchanging the analysis.
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>>136303013
I may be late to the thread. But THIS. Tender loving femdom a best.
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>>136323052
And aside from that, none.

She'd be right at home alongside the vikings or barbarians of gaul.
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>>136323720
I think it's stated or implied that she tortures people quite frequently.

Also,
>rebel scum
Back to >>>/pol/ you go.
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I wonder what the safe word with Esdeath would be?
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>>136315401
>If Esdeath was on the protagonists' side you cucklords would be all over here.
If she was on his side since the beginning, then it's okay. If she chanted sides, it would cheapen her already pretty stupid characterization.
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>>136319851
I LOVE YOU ESDEATH-TAICHOU!
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>>136321432
This is why some people like Esdeath. They have a totally delusional idea of her character.
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>>136323892
Speaking about them, have any of them show up in the story? The rebel army?
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>>136323201
>AgK, KLK, SAO, and GiTS
What I liked about GITS (I assume you're talking about SAC 2d gig) was the sort of anti-capitalism vibe it had. Anime usually doesn't go there.
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>>136324869
Anti-capitalism is kinda standard-fare for the cyberpunk genre, and GiTS is just Japan's interpretation of it. It's not just SAC II. Note how The Matrix, which was heavily influenced by the original 1995 film, also has deep anti-capitalist themes in it.
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>make thread dedicated to fapping
>/a/ makes a thread dedicated to words out of it
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>>136320889
They stopped this retarded edgefest and made this manga tolerable again.
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>>136326151
Threads don't always go where you want, or expect, them to go. If you want a fap thread, try >>>/e/ instead. /a/ is a discussion board, first and foremost.
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>>136301171
Literally one of the biggest piece of shit character ever.
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>>136319851
>pain and death will come to you
>[Es]death will come to you
I won't post it and take my chances with her torture and sadism.
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>>136328272
Tashiro will do it again. (That gayass sample though.)
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>>136328376
I swear, /co/'s reaction to that scene was just priceless. Shit like that makes diving into that pool of cancer all worth it.
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>>136301171

I would've just fucked Esdeath, slowly and somehow convinced her the emperor was corrupt and needed to be removed while proclaiming she would make a better queen.
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>>136329116
She doesn't want to be queen. She just wants to fight.

As the Minister himself said, if she was convinced she could have a better fight leading the revolution then she would just fuck off and do that right away.
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>>136329222

Then I guess I'd just fuck her and live comfortably in her care.
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>>136301171
Try to fuck her and see if she mellows out. If she doesn't I guess run away in the middle of the night? Would she be more willing to compromise after having sex for the first time and then having the guy leaving? Or does she go super yandere and now you're chained up in a dungeon if she catches you again?
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>>136320574
Why can't the yandere ever win, just once? Why can't the dude just be like, "Sure, after all you've done for me, of course we can be together!"

Pic related.
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>>136329781
Dude, she chains Tatsumi up in a dungeon the first chance she gets even without the sex. She basically tells him "fuck my eager pussy and I'll get you out of here and make your life a paradise" and he's all "nope, I'm gay for Lubbock".
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>>136301171
FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY
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>>136330289

>implying he wasn't gay for bro
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>>136302969
STANDING
OW THE EDGE
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>>136330703
Bro was dead at that point. Lubbock had become his new lubbo.
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>>136330289
>not being gay for lubbo
He's the best character in this series by far.
Wave being a close second.
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Impregnate.
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>>136301171
I wish she was blonde and her hair should have ended slightly above the ass. Would have been perfect but muh blue ice queen.
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>>136320640
What do you mean "in bed"?
She's socially retarded and a battle whore but still girly.
According to Takahiro she loves to have a fun atmosphere and gives nicknames to things. She's calling fake mountain "Famo". Did you also see her dressing up and having tea time?
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>>136322963
Yes, and I said "decent anime"

The only thing decent about that show was it's ending. And it only worked because of the ridiculously morbid nature of it forcing you to either laugh incessantly or turn it off in disgust.
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>>136331530

Black haired Esdeath would be a whole lot sexier.
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>>136331596
Blonde > Black
Busty, blue eyed blondes are the ultimate semen demons.
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If I remember correctly her subordinates loved her.
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>>136332407

Being one of Esdeath's subordinates looks comfy.
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>>136332407
I would love to love her too, if you know what I mean.
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So how does she feel about Tatsumi now that she got slapped around by him super hard?
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>>136328694
What are these pics anyway? I saw another yukata Kurome one and they look great. Alternative volume covers?
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>>136332536

Probably enjoyed the thought of being dominated by him.
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>>136301171
stuff a grenade between them, telling her it's a present from Chelsea, Schere, Spear and the northern tribes.
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>>136331892
Dominatrixes are best when they have long, raven black hair.

This is scientific fact.
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>>136332816
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>>136332816
Then Akame and Sayo should switch their job, huh?
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>>136332685

But I thought she was an S, not an M
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>>136329963
What's her face... Juvia from Fairy Tail? She's gonna win the Greybowl. The closest she has to competition is a dead mother figure.

Uhh, likewise, Hancock in One Piece's only romantic rival for the rubber-bowl would be Alvida who is just a different type of yandere.
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>>136328376
So /co/, which is infamous for their shit taste, are also huge esdeathfags.

Good to know.
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>>136333408
What did you expect from an retarded-underaged horde? I've read some of their posts and 'literal cancer' got a new mention there.
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>>136332536
She's now resolved herself to their next battle being to the death.

So I guess she wants to rape his corpse now.
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>>136332962
She might be an M as well, but it's unlikely that anyone has ever been able to overpower her.
She seemed pretty happy when Tatsumi got that one hit in.
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Place your bets l/a/dies and gentlemen: What will the point of Suzuka's character?

A) Nothing at all, fodderous maximus.
B) Killing Leone for good.
C) Killing Najenda for good.
D) Jobbing harder than Budo.
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>>136333408
Esdeathfags are so beta, they should be called gammas. "Oh look, it's a warm human with a vagina. I'm such a virgin, I want to fuck the shit out of it regardless of what she's done or who she is, and live out my life willfully oblivious to the evil she's responsible for."

FUCK

THAT

SHIT
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Esdeath is a horrible human being who causes discord for her own pleasure, tortures people for fun and needs to die, not because she deserves it (death is too good for her) but because the world needs to be rid of her.

Yet, I also want her to tenderly hold me in her arms and love me until the end of my days. I doubt it's possible to honestly hate her after watching episode 14's theater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh-47rdHaKw
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>>136333824
My dickings can purge any evil.
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>>136333998
You just keep telling yourself that, anon.
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>>136334061
that's a big 10-4, good buddy
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>>136334076
The 70s called,
They want their proto-meme back.
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>>136323201
>Very few anime get this correct. Most revolutions in Japanese media are depicted as primarily the actions of one important person, usually the MC, and perhaps a small band of his (and it's almost always "his") followers
This. Japanese medias always hold a weird prejudice against any kind of social changing ideal. Just look at shows like Code Geass or Death Note. Japaneses almost always depict "revolutionists" as some kind of megalomaniac psychopath who would always receive contribution at the end for daring to challenge social order. They don't seem to understand that the social system sometimes has to be changed for the good of the people.

Even right within this show, at the start, Najenda, as one of the RA's leader, even said that they're all killers and would receive their punishment later, even though they're basically revolutionists fighting to overthrow an evil regime. Where did she get this retarded idea? Each and every time in mankind's history, whenever a revolutionary moment want to overthrow a totalitarian government, the first thing they had to do was putting themselves on the moral high ground, glorifying their cause to maintain their troops and followers' high morale. Any moment which was unable to do this failed eventually, since if you can't even convince your own guys you're fighting for a just cause and all of your actions are justified, how can you make the population follow you? I doubt if this author ever read the US and Southern Africa's history, he would wonder why people didn't hang George Washington and Nelson Mandela after the revolution succeed.
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>>136320253
>TFW we will never get a decent anime where the MC goes through with it and his regret in doing so serves as character development.
I didn't know I wanted to watch this. Anything but school days though
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>>136329963
But pic related won.
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>>136333844
>causes discord for her own pleasure, tortures people for fun
Implying other people won't when a chance appears and they know they will face no consequence after, especially us here on /a/.
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>>136334936
>Where did she get this retarded idea?
>Muh US and South African history
The American "Revolution" was a French-backed independence war, and Nelson Mandela would be on par with Al-Baghdadi if he didn't kill whitey.

Where the Japanese get the idea of people recieving punishment is from actual revolutions. They have the tendency to eat their own children. We saw this in France and we saw this in Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azKNngXBICs

While Japan's history of dynastic stability and conservatism may have something to do with how they depict social change in their media, revolutions tend to backfire on those who start them. And the people who start them, if they are intelligent at least, often see this backfiring coming.

I will give Takahiro props if he actually depicts the post-revolutionary struggle where the radicals and moderates turn on eachother. Then again, that'd be good writing, which Takahiro hasn't shown yet.
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>>136301171
rape
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>>136333844

Theaters were a lot more enjoyable than the actual show.
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>>136335243
>Where the Japanese get the idea of people recieving punishment is from actual revolutions. They have the tendency to eat their own children. We saw this in France and we saw this in Russia.
Somehow I think you got the wrong idea. Yes, revolutionist usually kills each other after the revolution, bring forth an era of more bloodshed and turmoil. the French and Russian revolutions are prime example. But it wasn't because they though they committed some kind of unforgivable crimes like breaking the social order or killing too much and therefore should receive karmic punishments, like the author here tried to imply. It's simply inner-power struggle because they just couldn't agree who should be in charge, they basically killed each other to become the next dictator and anyone who was smart enough could easily predict it but I bet none of them thought their cause was unjust and felt guilty over what they did.

I also highly doubt Takahiro can depict any meaningful post-revolutionary struggle, considering how the anime ended. They put all the blame on a simple assassin and everyone else could live happily ever after. You got the idea.
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>>136335572
Shit, that's a good point actually. Now that you mention it, there did seem to be some Karmic element behind it when Najenda mentioned their punishment. And it is never explained why.

This could work if the show actually had grey morality, but it doesn't. Despite all pretenses the good guys are good, and the bad guys comically evil. Other than Bols, did Night Raid ever kill anyone on-screen/panel that had any redeeming traits whatsoever? No, simply having children isn't a redeeming trait.
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>>136335243
No, Mr. Edmund Burke Jr., you're wrong on virtually every level.

Revolutions are messy, but they are nevertheless a form of progress. I bet you're a britfag who convienently forgot about shit like the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution. "Revolutions are the locomotives of history" to quote Marx, and he's not wrong on that one.

The French Revolution wasn't all sunshine and roses, but it did bring about the end of feudalism and put France on the path towards liberal, egalitarian democracy. Revolutions brought about the end of Soviet tyranny in Eastern Europe, and toppled dictatorships in Greece, Portugal, the Philippines, and Indonesia. Tunisia is a better place now than it was before the Arab Spring, with a stable civil government.

The arc of the universe is long, but it arcs towards justice. You'd think that'd make a great backdrop for an anime, but unfortunately the extent of social and political conservatism in Japan appears to make that a third rail subject. It'd be interesting to see if less regulated forms of media, like Japanese webcomics, give history a different treatment.
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>>136335637
>No, Mr. Edmund Burke Jr.
You missed the point where I referred to Slavoj Zizek, didn't you? If anything, I'm more likely to side with Paine than Burke. Just saying that revolutions, whether they're for good or for ill, tend to eat their children. I guess we'd better stop lest the janitor decides it's been too long since we've called eachothers waifus shit.

>The arc of the universe is long, but it arcs towards justice. You'd think that'd make a great backdrop for an anime, but unfortunately the extent of social and political conservatism in Japan appears to make that a third rail subject.
Intredasting idea, but I doubt its truth to be honest. I don't really believe French feudalism was unjust, as it arose because it was needed. It was just that between the Hundred Years War and the Revolution, the need for feudalism had disappeared with the rise of professional armies, yet the Second and First estates still demanded privileges they no longer deserved. Revolutions simply set straight what peaceful change failed to set straight.
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>>136334936
Poetic justice is not a Japanese only thing
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I'd tell that filthy skank to get off on me.
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>>136335243

didn't the animu show just that?

old Boss Lady is probably now sending Akame to ga kill her political enemies within the new democratic republic

Tatsumi should've just manned up, nailed Esdeath and embraced his destiny to win the imperial throne by his own hand and he can begin top-down reforms while his waifu trundles around pregnant with a soccer team.
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>>136335835
The "arc of the universe" thing is, to be clear, a quote from MLK, not my own phrasing.

Feudalism was, like all socioeconomic systems, at one point at least necessary for the development of society. It became unjust when it wouldn't get out of the way of history.

Japan's history is very unusual, even for Asia. I think that when mangaka try to apply that history to other societies, it comes across as unrealistic. These are artists and writers after all, not historians. It's a problem that Hollywood also has at times.
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>>136321464
>Bols working for a corrupt government where people are treated like shit and used by the government in extortion.

>Chelsea, working in a rebellion to help bring peace and power back to the people where they no longer have to be treated like cattle to the government.

See the difference?
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>>136335621
I think the author has some ideas about grey morality, but for some reasons couldn't really put them into practice (his editorial staff for example), like how Nightraid was perfectly fine with killing innocent bystanders like Tatsumi if they refused to step aside in chapter 1, or how Kurome's actions was somewhat justified by her recently revealed background.

This show could be much better if its character are all grey instead of just black or white. The PM could be a national extremist who rules with iron fist to hold the country together instead of just a comical murder rapist. Mein could have been too obsessed with revenge and ended up killing many innocent civilians along with Justice-chan while she was trying to protect them, and so on. Many wasted potentials.
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>>136328694
Source on that pic?
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>>136336415
>Bols working for a corrupt government where people are treated like shit and used by the government in extortion.
Soldiers do not bear any responsibility for their government's decisions. It's not a crime to simply follow orders.
>Chelsea, working in a rebellion to help bring peace and power back to the people where they no longer have to be treated like cattle to the government.
Debatable. We know jack shit about the rebel forces and their true motive. Beside, the reason Chelsea killed Bols was more of a petty personal revenge than anything.
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>>136336568
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY_Fvh2VAAE7QOK.jpg

It will be an extra stuff for volume 13, just like pic releated.
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>>136336695
So it's the same as https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=150260
?
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WHAT ANIME
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>>136319851
I LOVE YOU ESDEATH-TAICHOU
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>>136336967
Glasslip
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>>136336649
>Soldiers do not bear any responsibility for their government's decisions. It's not a crime to simply follow orders.
The world dosen't agree with you. To this day Japanese and Nazi soldiers are still being caught and persecuted for he massacres they committed.
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>>136336649
>It's not a crime to simply follow orders.

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm
> An order which is unlawful not only does not need to be obeyed, but obeying such an order can result in criminal prosecution of the one who obeys it. Military courts have long held that military members are accountable for their actions even while following orders -- if the order was illegal.
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>>136336967
ah nevermind, i just realized its Esdeath
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>>136336904
I don't really sure about that, but two or more extra content/s is/are always welcome.
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>>136301171
Pump and dump. Esdeath's hot, but a crazy bitch and kills people.
Christmas cake tomboy was better anyway Leone and Akame best girls after her
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>>136337190
>Najenda
>Anything but worst girl after Esdeath
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>>136337048
You mean generals and officers who gave orders instead of mere grunts?
>>136337063
> An order which is unlawful not only does not need to be obeyed
But in this series' setting, based on what standard you decide if an order is lawful or not? The orders Bols carried certainly fit the empire's law and it's not like there's any international law to say otherwise.
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>>136336516
That's a bit too complex a story for Takashiro to write.
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>>136337320
If you want to pull "in this setting" shenanigans, which is pretty ill-defined, then you're basically ruining all possible conversation. In this setting there are magical uber beasts whose leather makes magical uber weapons. In this setting there's a dude who can see the fucking future. In this setting there may very well be a very real mechanism to the world itself which WILL punish the rebels as Najenda says. The japanese would probably call it karma.

All you can use "in this setting" for is exactly what it describes: a lawless tyranny employing psychopaths and with a puppet ruler manipulated by a fat fuck psychopath.
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>>136337525
Does those things you said have anything to do with my question? I just want to ask based on what standard you think Bols should disobey his military order?
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>>136337212
>>136337190
She's even worse than Esdeath.
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>>136337190
While Esdeath is shit-tier in my books, but if there is someone who is even more of a failure than her, that is Najenda.
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>>136337612
Because he has sufficient morality and intellect (aka, not zero thereof) to know that what he's being told to do, and what he has been told to do, is OBJECTIVELY HORRID. Half of his screen time is spent talking about how he deserves a horrible death and punishment for doing these things.
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>>136337694
But moral and law are two completely different things. You can disobey an order because it's unlawful, but you can't say "No" just because you think it's immoral.
>Half of his screen time is spent talking about how he deserves a horrible death and punishment for doing these things
Blame the autistic author for this.
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>>136314270
Wait, I don't remember this happening in the show. When did he actually bang anyone? I thought he died a virgin
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>>136337776
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector
>The international definition of conscientious objection officially broadened on March 8, 1995 when the United Nations Commission on Human Rights resolution 1995/83 stated that "persons performing military service should not be excluded from the right to have conscientious objections to military service."

Again, we can pull "in this setting" all we want to try to dismiss this, but the point is that someone currently serving in the armed forces having a lawful right and moral backing to refuse their duties on moral grounds is an established concept in our world. So it is reasonable to assume that the reader should expect this as well unless told otherwise.

Hell, fucking Wave and Kurome basically just refused continued service based on moral objections, and I think most people's reactions were "fucking finally, go save and bang that damage goods loli, bro!"
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>>136337776
Everyone in the setting is still human. Human morality is more or less universal. Toddlers know right from wrong before they can speak. And morality is the standard by which all law, indeed all actions, are judged. As legal scholars say, lex iniusta non est lex: an unjust law is no law at all. Any order which is patently and obviously immoral is inherently unlawful. This is the Nuremberg standard, but variations on it have existed for millennia.
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>>136337878
And Kurome was subject to harsh psychological and chemical conditioning to make the very idea of refusing service terrifying and painful to her. And she could *still* see through things well enough to chose Wave's dick and to hope for a happier life over continuing to serve the empire. But what about Bols? We were never shown him receiving such conditioning, and his constant self-recriminations seem to make it clear that he has definitely not. And at some point he has a loving wife. And a loving daughter. Yet he still follows his every unconscionable order because...why, exactly?
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>>136335046
Wait, I never actually watched the end of that. He actually dicked Yuno?

He didn't cure her of being 'crazy', did he?
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>>136337797
In the manga, he had sex with a pumpkin.
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>>136338910
Yes and yes, it's a happy ending despise all the edge.
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>>136338343
He was a true patriot, obviously. His country treated him well, gave him a good life, a beautiful wife and loving family, why betray it?
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>>136337677
i wonder, who is the best for you, morality-wise?
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>>136304003
That's fucking awful. We could have had a VN where the characters would actually get more backstory and development, but instead we get yet another anime that brutally bastardizes the source material?
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>>136339975
From those? Sayo, of course. She died before she could do anything wrong.
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I would have killed her stabbing her with my dick.
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>>136341163
What did Spear do wrong?
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>>136341135
Problem with VN is the whole characterization is subservient to the format. A VN is basically a "dating sim" so all the bitches are meant to lust after the MC. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but it does limit the characterization. As a manga, the story had a little more freedom. Not that Takahiro accomplished much with that. The guy's a hack.

About the only good thing that came out of this being a manga was Akame not falling for Tatsumi's dick. That wouldn't have been possible in a VN.
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>>136338990
Well, with the OVA, yes. Kinda. Sorta. It wasn't *the* Yuno, you know?
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>>136341457
>A VN is basically a "dating sim" so all the bitches are meant to lust after the MC.
???
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>>136341478
Are there many VNs when the heroines don't lust after the male MC?
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>>136341463
I'm talking about the manga.
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>>136341347
Bringing a spear to a teigu-figth.
But then, it is not if she started it,so basically she did nothing wrong.
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What is the thread on auto sage?
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>>136341542
depends on the type of VN you write, but agk was supposed to be majikoi 2.0
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>>136334936
>They don't seem to understand that the social system sometimes has to be changed for the good of the people.
What they need is another oda 'absolutely based' nobunaga
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