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The secret to a successful anime adaptation is not faithfully

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The secret to a successful anime adaptation is not faithfully adapting the original material word by word, but improving and making special changes that will make it unique and stand out of it's counterparts to give them a reason to buy both the product the anime is advertising and the anime itself.
Like what Kyoani does.

Do you agree?
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This is common sense.
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>>136276760
Yes.
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>>136276760
Yes.
Kyoani can tun okay/mediocre source material into masterpieces.
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Yes.
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No.
If Kyoani did this with any known source material with an already existing fanbase everyone would flip their shit.
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Of course, that's why Kyoto is the best
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>>136276760
So in short, gay it up.
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>>136279069
the author has said multiple times that they're gay
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TYBKA
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>>136278247
Pretty much. Kyoani does things right but only because they're also smart enough to choose source material that doesn't have a large, rabid fanbase.
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>>136278247
explain all the Keyshit they did
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Guys, i really think we need another season of Haruhi. do you think a Long and Drawn Out and Professional letter to Tanigawa and a Petition would spurn some interest? What about a kickstarter?
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>>136279462
Doesn't Tanigawa hate Kyoani?
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>>136279424
Which were mostly faithful adaptations compared to K-on, Hibike, Chuuni etc.
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>>136278247
What is Clannad?
What is Air?
What is Kanon?
What is Haruhi?
What is Hyouka?
What is K-On?
What is Lucky Star?
I guess it is more right to say that the last 3 have zero fanbase because of how shitty the sauce materials are until Kyoani animated them.
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>>136278247
Who cares, flipping their shit at the slightest change is what fanbases are for
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>>136279462
All participants in the production of the Haruhi anime have either been demoted or moved on to other projects.
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>>136279273
gonna need a source on this
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>>136279549
How many of those had anime original characters?
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>>136276760
Yes like adding yuri overtones that go nowhere. Fucking brilliant.
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>>136279642
Isn't it just?
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>>136279462
Just watch something else
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>>136279634
And who exactly did they add in Hibikek?
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>>136279549
Almost all of those are straight adaptations
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>>136276760
wrong. If the original material is good as it is, why the fuck would you change it?. Some changes are good if they don't fuck with the story or setting too much
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KyoAni's Keit-Ai when?
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>>136279549
Neither K-On, nor Lucky Star were popular before their adaptations, Hyoka still isn't. Keyshit changes were for the best, unless you're an autistic maedafag who for some reason enjoy the garbage VNs more. Haruhi is a faithful adaptation for the most part.
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>>136279977
>Keyshit changes were for the best
And yet they didn't change the worst thing about Clannad that was the ending. That shit doesn't work in anime form.
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>>136279905
Depends, some can add new stuff onto the source material and not fuck with it. For example the new Ace Attorney Anime will add new stuff that wasn't covered in the games and it's not inherently a bad thing.
However as I said, as long as it doesn't FUCKING INTERFERE WITH THE SOURCE MATERIAL AND UTTERLY, COMPLETELY DESTROY IT, it's fine.
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>>136280005
I thought the eyes were the worst thing
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>>136279955
Comix Wave or bust.
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>>136276760
>hibikek
>successful
kek
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>>136280241
>movie and s2 greenlit
How is that not successful?
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>>136276760
OP has the mouth full with truth, most of the anime adaptations are just mediocre translations instead of a real improvement on the manga. The latest example if Luffy gear fourth, everyone expected a 10/10 battle but we got just an average fight with no sense of intensity, in the manga you could actually feel the strenght of the punches but in the anime just seems like a strong punch and that's it.
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>>136280269
Why do you even take seriously someone that wrote "kek"?
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>>136279905
Why make a word by word adaptation of the same thing when a cheaper alternative exists? That is what LN anime do wrong, they just advertise the source material, rendering buying the BDs useless and they go bankrupt. If they want to improve their situation, they should try adding heir own touches that can't be seen or expressed by the source material to give some merit on buying the same thing.
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>>136279549
>haruhi
Loyal adaptation for the most part.
>air
Straight fucking trash adaptation.
>Clannad, Kanon
Can't really speak on these since I haven't read the source.
>hyouka, keion, lucky star
Like you said zero fanbases before their adaptations.
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>>136276760
that should be what anime does. fix the fuck ups from manga.
but anime nowadays is just advertising for shits, with open ending. "hurr durr go read the manga"
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>>136280502
Gakkou Gurashi tried to "fix" a manga story that wasn't broken. The new story failed spectacularly.
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>>136280626
Gakkou Gurashi was just a mistake
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>>136280626
>Gakkou Gurashi

I felt like it was trying to appeal other people that haven't read the manga. You know, those who watch The Walking Dead.
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Can't wait until they "fix" Koe no Katachi and it flops harder than Nichijou.
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>>136280813
But changing KnK can only make it better.
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An anime should be good before it is faithful. The staff of an anime should be given the freedom to make something good above all else, even if that means reworking the source material.
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>>136282695
I want it to be SOL. Kyoani make it SOL
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>>136279642
I swear to god if kyo doesn't explicitly show kumiko's tongue in reina's pussy I'm gonna fedex myself to wherever the fuck kyoani is and shoot that bitch up. if you're gonna make them lesbians then just fucking do it don't be a bunch of bait.
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>>136283354
I agree brother KumiRei4lyfe
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>>136279955
Hopefully never.
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>>136276760
This is true. Doing a word for word adaptation to a visual medium can really weigh a series down, and turn something exciting into a chore to watch.
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FMA 2003 > FMA:B
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>>136285161
Well meme'd nostalgiafag
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>>136276760

Or you know just having a popular label slapped on it like Kyoani or Shaft.
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I agree. FMP anime was better than the novels.
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>>136276760
man, that show really sucks.
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Something I would like to see more often is what was done with Patlabor, where each and every adaptation was distinct from each other and the original manga, and was better for it.

>>136279905
Both Ranma and Urusei Yatsura were good, but the anime improved upon both by making slight changes here and there, or building upon smaller things.
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>>136276760
Kyoani are a mixed bag on the subject.
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>>136279589
Yamakan still can save us!
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>>136287397
So like where is the WuG movies?
Subs where?
Seems like not even fansubbers care about yamakan.
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Not at all, Kyoani can only achieve that because they have the talent and have been doing it for a long time.

I doubt others could follow suit so easily.
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>>136279462
>he didn't read the latest LNs
Haruhi is just trash now
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>>136280502
> fix the fuck ups from manga.
yeah, just like Bokurano anime
damn, that was one hell of a fuckup
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>>136279273
I want to believe this, I really do.
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>>136287424
The 2nd WUG Movie is still not out on BD yet.
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>>136276760

Giving Reina more screentime and removing the boring parts such as Shuichi greatly improved Hibike's overall quality.
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>>136279955
>Dubs G-Ai

Patrick Bateman falls in love with his dubs.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with dub-finding bot. Never minding the strange repeating digits, he immediately uses it, and is overjoyed to find out that the dubs have a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he engages in more dubs getting ways, he instead acquires singles. Confused by these turn of events, the Wall Street businessman investigates and finds out that the dubs he made is not the same dubs he fell in love with. In fact, the dubs don't exist in this universe at all. They are dubs from an alternate universe, who has fallen in love with the MC's own psycho self, who too is blissfully unaware of their crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While they shitpost all over 4chan, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of DUBS.
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>>136289226
The butthurt of /u/ fags was indeed delicious.
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>>136281939
Picture Related.
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>>136276760

The people who say "yes" are yurifags, and yurifags are a cancer consisting solely of people who deserve to die because the world would be better off without them.
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>>136290072
Who raped you?
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>>136290072
Take off the yurigoggles, anon.
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>>136276760
One is a novel and one is an anime, it's kind of hard for them not to be different.
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>>136292255
This guy.
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>>136279273
>I take this information from my ass. Now believe me.
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>>136276760
I can't. I barely read source material. If I already read I don't have a reason to watch.

There are a few exceptions tho.
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is it season 2 yet?
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I honestly can't wait for second season to show how wet Reina is for Taki and how Kumiko is supportive of her feelings for him.
I want to taste yuritears so badly.
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>>136294381
I thought the second season wasn't going to cover that.
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>>136294501
What do you think it'll cover? Reina doesn't appear as much, second season should be all about oboe+flute. But if Reina is going to show up, then her role in the books should be shown as well. And that's Taki stalking and Taki suffering. And Kumiko putting up with it like the supportive friend she is.
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>>136294501
I think they will adapt 2 volume for the second season.
The last volume was short story if I recall it.
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>>136294381
I can't wait for the second season to see how they'll change things again.
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>>136294905
Is it possible for S2 to be on par with S1?
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>>136294905
Reina was big part of the first novel, they had the liberty to experiment with her character. Still, even after that scene she remained in love with Taki.
If anything, they'll make Kumiko have gay interactions with Asuka.

It won't change the fact she'll end up with shuuichi though.
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>>136290942
A yurifag.
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>>136283354
Is /u/ more dangerous than /r9k/?
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>>136295004
>Reina was big part of the first novel, they had the liberty to experiment with her character.
>implying they didn't
I don't know why I bring this on myself. Forget I said anything.
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>>136278247
It's like you started watching anime this season.
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>>136295234
That's what I was trying to say though. In the first season, they had the liberty to experiment with Reina BECAUSE she and Kumiko were the main characters of the first novel. But that isn't the case for the second season, because Reina doesn't appear as much. Since her role changed drastically from one novel to the other, Kyoani will have to focus on other characters.

How is that hard to understand?
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>>136295384
>But that isn't the case for the second season, because Reina doesn't appear as much.
But Anon, if you've read the first novel, which I'm going to assume you have, then you know that compared to the anime, Reina doesn't appear nearly as much there, either.

But like I said, forget it. My mistake was posting that scene from episode 8. Really, I'm interested in seeing any changes they make, but so many of the ones I could reference are such hot button shit.
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>>136295615
Reina and Kumiko were still the main focus of the first novel though. So it's valid.
Kyoani added that scene in episode 7 and 11 to pander to the yuri crowd, but they still kept Reina's love confession and added the bottle dropping in episode 12 to show how much she is into Taki.
They made changes, sure, but they kept her "Reina-ness".
Even in the last ova, Reina had tears in her eyes just because she was looking at Taki.

Anyways, where's that interview where they say there are no romantic feelings but pure friendship between Kumiko and Reina?
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>>136294558

They'll be more bait scenes that's for sure. Kyoani needs to sell considering phantom isn't doing great.
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>>136296272
Hibike didn't do great either if I remember correctly, it didn't sell over 10k. But I'm not entirely sure.

Kyoani's been losing a lot with his shows lately. Their last cash cow was Free. I think they'll have to pander to Fujo again.
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>>136296395
Hibike is getting a recap movie and season 2, I think it's doing fine.
Kyoani looks like they don't need that high disc sales cause it's supplemented by other shit they sell and most of the money goes back to them anyways.

Phantom World looks like it'll be like KnK and Tamako and get atleast a movie after the series is finished.
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When will Kyoani publish a reincarnation LN from the sea of web novels available. It's the only genre they haven't tackled with.
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>>136296467
>Phantom World looks like it'll be like KnK and Tamako and get atleast a movie after the series is finished.

If you are familiar with Hibike threads here in /a/, you would know we said the same about Hibike.
Kyoani isn't doing this for the money my anon, they're doing it because they loved this novel. I think they'll go all the way for it and actually give it a proper ending.
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We need more hazushui scenes
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>>136296680
I expect Phantom World to get a movie adapting Novel 2. Can't wait.
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>>136296680
Yeah I agree with you. Kyoani takes care of their own franchises.
I think it's to send a message to prospective authors letting them know if they submit their stories to Kyoani and it gets recognized, it's a good chance they'll see it animated.
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>>136279273

I read the novel, so you can't fuck with me on this one.

They're not gay.
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wake me up when Kyoani will make a good anime that isn't pandering to moe fans or fujos
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>>136297177
>it's pandering when it's not something I like
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>>136296711

Embarrassed Hazuki cute!
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>>136297212
>Hibike isn't pandering to moe and Yuri fans
>Free isn't fujobailt
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>>136297177
wake me up when you stop using buzzwords
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so gay the manga
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