So /a/, I finally decided to pick up the berserk manga for the first time seeing as how much its praised. I wanted to see what I missed out on all these years.
And holy shit was guts just born to suffer? I almost cried bitch tears in a few arcs.
Now Im on the boat arc and hes losing his eyesight and his waifu is retarded and hates him.
I-Is he ever going to be happy? Even a little?
Because its never going to be fucking finished.
hopefully she gets her memory back and doesn't hate him or do some stupid nigger shit
I cant see her surviving to be honest.. Like she gets her memory back and it all flashes before her and it becomes too much and she becomes a comatosed shell of herself and they have to end her life for whatever reason.
I don't know, anon. I really don't know. I hope he will be okay, I hope casca will be okay but I fear that it won't be the case.
Oh oh, what if she becomes more hateful and cold than guts and shes like a female black swordsman 2.0 with extra edge?
Write the word "cuck" in the condensation on my window.
I'm finishing the Golden Age, at Griffith's rebirth and I just don't get this:
Why does he defile Caska?
So we see Griffith confirming he'll pile the bodies on as long as he needs to, but why go the extra mile? Is it
cause he said Guts was the only one who made him forget his dream and wished to punish him for that?
If he abandoned his people (the Hawk), what's the point? Is he just a sociopath?
Calling it. When she comes back, shell go comatose from the trauma then shell come to being more revenge hungry than guts ever was. Guts will want to forget griffith and be with her but shell want to go after him.
Then she finally reaches griffith and realizes she was just really wet for more of his cock and wanted more
>i read on my phone
>am i doing something wrong?
But that shows he does care.
So he doesn't get over Guts. Actually, I've forgotten the opening chapters with the God Hand introductions
but I'm guessing he was only mildly surprised at seeing Guts appear in the X dimension or whatever
>Berserk ends with guts and griffith just going at it like wild animals in heat filling each other's boyhole with their seed, trying their hardest to get each other pregnant despite the biological impossibility
there is 0 proof that this is guts son. and any speculation that he may be is pure autism
well the whole point of berserk is suffering, and how all the world is shit, idea of evil says it itself that he was created by people.
And fuck you miura nobody believes you when you say IoE is not cannon anymore, it's to late now.
He didn't retcon it though. He simply asked the publishers not to print it anymore because, as this anon said >>136271207, Miura felt it gave too much away of the plot too quickly.
Though I will agree the story has become much lighter in tone. But the series becoming more lighthearted over time could just be plot development, and not necessarily a result of Miura deciding to nix his original dark ending for a lighter one.
After the fight with the seagod. There is a scan where Guts notices his vision is fading. It's also safe to assume he's at least a bit deaf after the the seagod blasted his eardrums.
yeah I remember when they first meet the old witch they where talking about spirit world and such, as well as god hands and iirc there it hinted at the IoE.
too lazy to search the pages though
I really hope that at least Casca getting her personality back makes things work out for him
so the both of them can finally go kill Griffith together, but knowing the general tone of Berserk, I highly doubt it. Also, Miura said it would have a bitter-sweet ending (I don't have the source, another anon posted it in an older thread) and that can only mean that Guts needs to suffer some more.
That said, haven't things gotten a bit easier for him? Emotionally, at least. His body gets damaged more than ever before, and the Berserker armor is also a problem, but he isn't alone anymore, is growing bonds to other people again and generally seems more at ease in between fights.
>so the both of them can finally go kill Griffith together
She will have her memories back and she will stop guts from killing griffith.
>Caska thinks Griffith as a god and she admires him
>Retarded Caska treats the Griffith's baby like her child
>Skull Knight says that what Caska wants is not what Guts wants.
So Guts is going to have a hard decision in the future. It's like fucking poetry mate.
Already on hiatus again. Jesus Miura really is going to die before he's done.
Caska will get her sanity back in exchange for a full memory wipe. Mark my words. Guts will be okay with this outcome since her happiness is all that matters. This will free him up to go fight Griffith. His suffering never ends.
Basically, the Idea of Evil is God that man's negative emotions toward God created.
IoE perpetues this negativity by making the world a shitty place to live in by influencing causality, and his agents the Godhand and the Apostles.
You probably did the same as me and read it from the Tanks
Miura retconed the chapter so its not on the official tanks, IIRC is chapter 84 or something its about grifith talking with god
High PPI is good, but on a tiny screen it just masking the shitness of a "HD manga" app that just streams pages from mangafox or some other shit manga site
No anon, you are the cunt hurling around that huge slab of shit
If Guts didn't eavesdropped on a private conversation, and just accepted his inferiority to Griffith, none of this would have ever happened. Guts couldn't let his pride go, and now he's suffering. Everything is his fault, especially for betraying Griffith by leaving him.
>read newest chapter
>Next chapter: summer 2016!
I don't get it
It's like Miura WANTS to die before he finishes Berserk
Fate would have lead to the eclipse nonetheless.
Its not guts' fault that griffith cant get his shit together because guts wouldnt submissively suck his girly cock. Griffith was still in total control of himself and responsible for his actions. None of what guts did changed that.
Reading Berserk to get caught up and such.
He does nothing but gain power. How will he be taken down.
It starts out good but starts to lose my interest further on. It has neat monster designs and top tier waifus though. I just wish there was less of the shounen tier bleach-styled fights and more straight up sword fights.
>Caska thinks Griffith is just the victim corrupted by the IoE
>ultimately blames Guts for abandoning him and directly causing his downfall
>believes Griffith can still be saved by the power love
>threatens Guts that if he dares to lay a finger on Griffith, she will take her own life
>comes to live in Falconia with Griffith to take care of him and restore his humanity and kindness
>Implying that's really the reason he went on Hiatus.
The guy isn't an animator, producer, or screenwriter and all he really needs to do is give the Thumbs up on ideas if that. Also, you seem to forget that without any new chapters, the new series will suffer the same fate as the old series. He just went on Hiatus because he's clearly tired of working on this series, and possibly because of a rumored terminal illness.
>I had a dream that griffith and casca were consensually fucking while zodd and grunbeld held down a naked guts and made him watch
>Casca would continuously cum and moan while telling guts hes not good enough to satisfy her like her master griffith and that he should give in and become his property promising sexual acts every once or two weeks if griffith allowed it
Fucking christ, what has NTR done to me?
I imagine humans in the berserk world have higher potential for strength, skill and speed than in reality. Its not just guts who is able to do crazy shit. Look at serpico, pre femto griffith and gascogne.
>And holy shit was guts just born to suffer?
You piece of shit. NTR is already horrible enough. Why the fuck would I want to see that shit happen to one of my favorite characters? Especially since theyd force character assassination and make guts act pathetic as fuck instead of going full hound mode and creating a bloodbath.
No. I refuse ntr in berserk. I refuse it.
Chill out anon. This scene already happened once canonically in the story with the only thing lacking was Caska's consent. Guts was completely powerless at that time. Why do you think it will be "character assassination" if it happens again with Caska being consensus. Guts being completely helpless again Griffith and Caska being head over heel toward him are facts, m8.
It would be character assassination because casca wouldn't humiliate guts like that even if she wouldnt hate griffith like guts does. Even if she would still love griffith. It would be character assassination because guts would fight back and has been able to hold his own against both those apostles before. Hell he nearly rekt grunbeld. It would at least turn into a huge fight with someone ending up dead. NTR artists would have him cry and beg or get a boner despite having the means and reason to start a bloodbath and do something like he actually would.
This is possibly what I would like to seethe most.
But considering how many times it's been brought up that "what you want may not be what she wants" that I highly doubt that.
When she stops being retarded, do you guise think that she'll remember what's been happening all this time after the eclipse?
I'm rather sceptical towards this theory, but it's definitely a possibility.
First of all, he looks 100% like Guts/Caska.
Second of all, he cliged to both of them, and Caska has clear maternal instincts towards him. Could be just to any child, but the point still stands.
Also, he saved his potential parents a couple of times, just like the demon child used to do.
Also, remember that one scene when the kid falls of Guts back and both Guts and Caska catches them? Everyone comments how they look like a family, seems like a pretty obvious foreshadowing. Oh, and the kid's age fits perfectly with that theory.
There are some things that don't add up for me though.
I don't see how the child could possibly exist if it's actual body is used as a vessel for Griffith. Maybe somehow he can separate his astral body, perhaps that would even make sense that he looks like the idea of their child, thus not like the demon child.
And I don't understand how could it be so powerful. It can clearly manipulate od, and even got Guts easily from the armour, while even Shrieke had trouble with that. But on the other hand the demon child also did something simmilar guarding Caska from all the ghosts.
What do you anons think?
That's not from the sea god though. That are the effect of the armour usage that SK talked about. He said Guts may loose his senses if he keeps on fighting as a berserker. Hopefully the elf king
Puckwill somehow fix him.
Caska will side with Guts. She has already chosen in Golden Age arc, and after the eclipse you'd have to be completely retarded to think she will still glorify Griffith. Stop making it seem like her wish to follow him is the only thing defining her character.
>guts couldn't let his pride go
He went away to search for a dream, a goal or a meaning to his life. That has nothing to do with pride and it was never even suggested that Guts had a praticulary strong sense of pride either way. The Griffith talk just opened his eyes, that's all. It's not like he thought about Griffith while he was away from the Hawks, he was not his reason.
>everything is his fault, especially for betraying Griffith by leaving him
yeah, yeah, I know I bit
Guess it's possible, although I find Serpico to be a bretty cool character. I think it's possible that he and Farnese may leave the band and maybe stay on the island, considering how she wants to learn magic.
It saddened me though, that Miura didn't have the balls to kill Erica when Rakshas caught her. I though it would be a great opportunity to give Rickert a strong reason to go after Griffith and Falconia.
>I don't see how the child could possibly exist if it's actual body is used as a vessel for Griffith.
Reread Tower of Conviction, he got a body thanks to the Egg Apostle.
Remember the page when the second eclipse happens? The Egg apostle puts the Demon child inside him because he pities him and wants him to witness the new world, there's a glimpse of the demon child slowly getting a human body before the Egg apostle disappears.
He pretty much is the demon child, I don't know how people can't see it, but then again, speedreaders.
Isn't Schierke said that the boy is most likely the elf king?
And what if, he's also
Guts' father? Because you know, Guts has a mysterious connection with the elves.
No. Guts is 100% human, it's been said many times, and one of the main points of his story it that he is a struggler, not some super-half-demon-nuclear-death-god.
He was already very strong in Golden Age arc, even killed Boscone - Tudor's best soldier. Now imagine fighing every single night for a couple of years, facing apostoles and all kinds of possessed shit. Notice how he usually makes it barely alive. Also he uses literally every means he can to win. Not onlyin the terms of strategies, but even in his armoury - A gigantic sword, throwing knifes, repeating crossbow, daggers, a cannon, miniature bombs... He needs all this stuff because he's still just a human.
>elf king, a few inches tall literally dickless fairy impregnated a random woman and left while she was hanged and gave birth in a puddle of blood and mud
Not what I would expect from an elf king desu
Also I don't see why Elf King would take such a form.
>about 3 years old
>compaining about not having enough muscle
what the hell is wrong with you?
>Even if he's happy he'll eventually die and go to hell to suffer for eternity.
>after the eclipse you'd have to be completely retarded to think she will still glorify Griffith
Yeah but that is just like your opinion.
But we have facts already.
Skull knight already said that
>What caska wants is not what you want guts.
You should already know that caska still thinks griffith as a god and will stop guts from killing him.
You vanilla fags are really desperate you know. This series isn't going to be a happy ending.
we just want Guts to be happy anon, is it asking too much
I think it's a bit more complex than that but more along those lines. Personally, I think that the reason Caska acted the way she did during the Reunion was because she saw her child and not Griffith. Referencing what Skull Knight said about her not wanting what Guts wants, she may not want to kill the body since it can ruin the boys chance at being given his body back, and reuniting with Caska.
Since Griffith took the child's body, his soul or astral body had to go somewhere, and I am guessing that his human form and powers are an inheritance from the events of both eclipses. I begin to wonder since Griffith has the boys body as a vessel and there is clearly something of the kid lingering inside, would that mean that the lingering part of the child is leaching power from Griffith and feeding it to his astral body?
Its the face you morons. Its too damn feminine. Guts' features were no where near that soft and girly when he was a child. He looked like a boy. This kid looks like a girl.
That's just because he looks more like Casca than Guts, anon.
Well even miura doesn't know the ending yet but I am pretty damn sure that Guts and Caska can never be together again.
So maybe Guts can go for the other girls
if they are still alive in the future chapters.
If we're going by the standards of the story so far, it most likely won't be a happy ending.
though I do want Griffith to acknowledge Guts' friendship, as silly as the idea is
miura wrote himself into a corner
its gonna be shit writing equivalent of a wow raid, 10 heroes battle trough trash and some minibosses to get to the end boss who has 3 different phases and teleports to a different dimension before he inevitably dies.
Kind of pointless to watch the anime if you already read the manga. It's very simmilar, and you won't get any fast paced action due to crappy animation. But the music's good, so there's that.
As for the movies, I wouldn't recommend watching them if you don't know the story, since they ommit a lot. But after the manga you might enjoy them, if you can stomach awful CGI.
>Miura knows exactly what he's doing
I'm not sure about that I mean from the recent interviews he had he doesn't even know how the story is even going to end after years of his hiatus.
>Zodd's right horn
Ever since he lost the left one, the right one just keeps getting bigger and bigger, and its not like its growing, I think miura goes on a giggling fit whenever he draws this horn impossibly large
In some panels the thing is wider than Zodd's skull
He said he had the ending figured out, 15 years ago.
kek, you're absolutely right, I never noticed.
>Isma is still with the party for some reason, despite just being reunited with her long lost mermaid mother
>Just realized that Elfhelm is going to be filled with Witches and Warlocks and Elves. Been so long, I forgot where they were going in the first place
>An arc filled with Schierkes, Pucks and Ivarella's
Oh well, at least Guts fighting the Wickerman without using that shitty armor was cool. Kinda like the old days. The party needs to trim the fat, though. Too much dead fucking weight.
>He said he had the ending figured out, 15 years ago.
>15 years ago
You said it yourself. He also mentioned that wasn't the case anymore, and he was looking for a different ending. He doesn't know what the ending will be anymore, and even after all those breaks he took he most likely still hasn't figured it out.
>Guts and party leave Elfhelm after a week
>it's been centuries outside
>Falconia was already sacrificed and Griffith is roaming the world as a crimson falcon skeleton
>Rickert and the indian bros are already dead
With the NTRists being God Hands, a NTR scenario is still plausible. Caska is just a normal mortal with a weak mind, to the point she chose to shut it out when facing hardship, so Griffith mind breaking her and making her slutty nature resurface aren't something impossible to happen. Caska has lost to her primal nature before after all, remember her joyful expression when being hold by Griffith while Guts watching. About Guts, you maybe right with him being able to fight back if his opponents are Griffith's goons, but you forgot that Slan also lusts after him and last time they met, he was powerless against just a fake image of her. If Slan herself appears for real and forcefully ride Guts' rod, the only thing he can do is hopelessly trying to prevent his own orgasm.
No fucking way. She was a damn good leader being able to keep the hawks together and surviving for so damn long. The eclipse couldve broken even the strongest men around.
>Forcefully riding guts' cock
Too early to fap anon. Dont start this.
How will Guts use his behelit? To summon god hand and kill them?
He won't. It has been heavily foreshadowed that it will leave his hand when the time comes. It will either go to Farnese, Serpico, or perhaps Isidoro in my opinion.