>Oh, now where to start burning her? Maybe I should roast that little face of hers. Or maybe I should press against her pink ass and burn it pitch black!! Hey, what do you think, Hamazura? You'd better come out, cause I'm gonna burn her into a black mummy! Or can you still get off to fucking a hole like that!!?
>"I'll count to three. If you don't come out, I'll burn Takitsubo's ass as punishment. Of course, if you'd rather just abandon her, then you can just sit there masturbating to the stench of her virginity being burned away."
This bitch is fucking insane and extremely cruel. How can anyone be a fan of her?
Sephiroth from Final Fantasy has tons of female fans because he's hot even though he did horrible actions. Same as many other villains such as Grimmjow, Ulquiorra or Gin Ichimaru from Bleach.
Why can't I like asshole girls if girls like asshole boys?
>Was trying to kill me for the past 30 mins
>Literally stopping me from saving my sisters from being killed
>Shit, looks like she's going to fall off
>Better go save her like afterall, she won't try kill me right after
Such a stupid bitch.
Holy fuck all that edge
People seriously read this?
We like his punching because he corrects people's lives with it.
What did he just bite someones finger off?
Wouldn't work. That's where the true IB is. It's not functioning right because it's not in his right hand. By the end of the novels, Touma will learn about this and has to dick girls to take away their magical powers forever. Aleister is last boss because Touma is not gay.
She gets her shit fucked by a literal who and proceeds to chase him and bully his girlfriend.
No one who likes Mugino pretends she's a good person in any sense of the word. Leave the delusional "she's a gud grill!!!111!!! Everything she did is perfectly okay!!!!1!!!" bullshit to Othinusfags.
Does anyone actually like Mugino the best, anyway?
Only muginofag reporting. I love her craziness and the fact that she just doesn't give a fuck.
She's also pretty hot so yeah.
I don't like their chemistry at all so I'm not interested in imagining what it could be like, but I suppose if Kamachi could have made it decent enough that I'd be nuetral to it. But as it stands, I hate their chemistry and the fact this half assed blushu retard shit is all Kamachi wants to do with an otherwise interesting character
Sex hair indeed, shame we'll never get to feel it.
Misaka has the potential to be a god teir character. But the endless romance teasing and awful chemistry makes her actual execution not live up to her potential. I like Misaka but hate the ship, basically. I hope Kamachi cuts out the ship soon
She saved Saten because she gave her a fucking mackerel.
Frenda was not evil. People they normally fought with deserved no sympathy. It's AC leaders who are evil pieces of shit that turn normal kids into monsters.
How the shit is it even possible for lv5's to become like this?
They literally swim in money without doing any shady shit. Look at Mikoto. Labs are throwing money at her just for some harmless experiments.
Kakine or Mugino could live perfectly normal lives but they don't because? Mugino keeps talking about the Dark Side if they were forced into this shit when it's fucking obvious nobody is forcing them.
This. This is why I don't believe it's fair to blame Accelerator for the Sisters.
Who was it that made the Sisters in the first place then came up with the plan?
Who was it that gave Accelerator the opportunity to say "yes"?
Who was it that allowed Acclerator to be pushed into the mindset necessary to agree with that?
Unless you're implying Accelerator was born a twisted monster, the answer to any of those questions is not "Accelerator himself".
The saddest part of the whole thing is Accelerator isn't even close to the only kid fucked up by you kind of bullhshit
Not people. Bio robots that look like people. That's how scientists introduced Sisters and that's how they acted.
The moment one of them started acting like a real girl he risked his life to save her.
The only Level 5 unable to live a normal life no matter what was Accelerator. Even as a kid, he was targeted for assassinations and experiments. Even if he had constantly yelled "No no no I want to be left alone!! Let me go to school and be a normal kid I'm not your weapon!" he would have eventually lost it and became Sisters Arc Edgecelerator regardless
That's not even getting into the "fun" times he had with Amata.
I'm pretty sure Amata's idea of developing someone's ability isn't pleasant, especially seeing as he's Kihara scum.
You're missing the point. It wasn't a "hey wanna kill 20,000 people?" it was "hey, wanna kill 20,000 bio robots to level up? you might even get the peace you want, what you've got now hasn't done anything for you"
Also, it can be implied from later volumes that even it Accelerator said "no" and fucked everything up, something worse would have happened
Yeah, because normal people go "k, in one minute you can kill me". He wasn't spending time with them like Mikoto or Because girl.
And they only really started developing emotions around #9000.
Not really a normal life, but it would have been possible for him to tell everyone to fuck off since he's stupidly strong compared to basically everyone who cares about espers. Stuff like Kihara's counter is pretty much bullshit and should be easily gotten around by someone with Accel's level of flexibility, but I guess that's more of a writing issue.
We'll sever see Accel getting fucked by random magicians or being afraid of Cendrillon animated.
At this point, you can't tell if that ever held up. If they boost Rikou, AC's schtick becomes redundant; if they boost Awaki, she will save all her friends and fuck AC's shit up.
Awaki is pretty much lv4++ and only her mental issues are holding her back.
And even as she is she could kill every other lv5. How would stuff like Dark Matter help when she just teleports a bomb inside someone's head?
Thing is I find it hard to believe that AC doesn't have a counter for this. I believe they can kill any Level 5 any time they want to. Of course I don't think they'd play this card easily but I'm 100% sure they have it
Mugino was a part of a wealthy family but something obviously happened in between then and now.
She seemed pretty smug but I think achieving level 5 and being manipulated by academy city pushed her over the edge, like kakine.
They had a lv5 cleaner ready.
But how would they cover an apocalyptic fight in broad daylight when they can't even deal properly with stupid rumors over the net?
I wonder if takitsubo will perfect her aim manipulation and make hamazura a higher level esper.
He has to be hiding some bullshit ability.
Everything is controlled by Aleister, so it would never get to that point. If it did the signal or power would be cut if it even sends any information outside of the city in the first place.
Pre-OT15? Surround yourself in a bubble of Dark Matter and bend space within it.
After OT15, Dark Matter is immortal.
The tech that comprises the networks could have been given by AC.
Let Hamazura keep his niche of being a Level 0 thug.
Besides, he's upgraded to being a technology user now.
Teleportation is too fast for something like that. And Awaki can teleport tons of stuff without even touching it.
Kakine became almost immortal in NT, but before that he was perfectly killable.
I like his position now, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got a temporary buff to compete with Touma and Accelerator. Tech can only go so far.
They should have let him keep that suit from NT1 and permanently become kamen rider tbqh.
That makes no sense at all. It was just Author's stupid explanation why some lv4 teleporter couldn't easily kill him.
If some other esper has telekinetic brainburst power or can boil your blood how would vector manipulation help?
Crack theory but gunha has the potential to be the strongest esper if accelerator or takitsubo don't get stronger.
His ability must be just like ollerus' but in the aeon of horus.
They'd simply kill or incapacitate the Level 5 before the apocalyptic fight even occurred.
Accelerator was going to "stop the darkness" and his plan seemed to include his death. The only thing that stopped him was Will-chan saying "can't stay long, Touma needs me, but this isn't what I want from you, later"
What do you think he as going to do other than try to start shit and get killed for it
Not really. Only 1,2,3 and 7 could hold their own against ones and even then it's not a guarantee they will win. Like that other anon said, they're not really at full potential.
Currently none of the Level 5s have a reason to fight each other. Misaki and Mikoto being retards over Touma doesn't count as a fight. Hell, there's far more reason to band them all together
He lost it. Introducing a ton of new characters every volume when there are hundreds of great characters who did shit for like 10 volumes is simply a crime.
I really hope good Railgun characters won't be getting the same treatment.
>“Academy City has seven Level 5s. However, the predictive calculations of Tree >Diagram have established that there is a single one of them who is capable of >reaching the as yet unseen Level 6. The other Level 5s are either growing in a >different direction or their bodily balance would be lost by an increase in dosage.”
It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts
Each of the level 5s has a different purpose, but #1 is able to achieve SYSTEM and #2 is the backup for him. #3 is to spread AIM across the world to eliminate magic and allow Kazakiri=Fuse to exist to create the artificial heaven/angels. Hard to know the grand plan for #4 but at least so far she was used to make weapons tech, along with #2. #5 is to control other people who would go against the plan.
Why do Raildex threads get so many replies? Even if the OP just takes a shit, everyone comes in and starts drawing with it
We just want our season 3 and some discussion is the only way to ease the pain.
Threadly reminder that Misaka is the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess.
You kidding? Misaki's power makes her too user friendly and destructive to leave alone to the morally corrupt.
Hell, it's why Kamachi keeps her out of being by Touma's side because she would make shit too easy for his pacifist MO and Kamachi couldn't BS why magicians could circumvent her powers.
I want a faction war.
And to know whether or not Tsuchimikado survived and will be spearheading the Kamijou Faction.
>mfw they reveal the cover and he's on it
They shafted him in NT7, hopefully they change it up for once.
>Remember Mikoto going fallen angel?
Stop guessing and aktually read the serie.
>their bodily balance would be lost by an increase in dosage.”
So far Aleister does have control over everyone and where they go including a plan to eliminate Misaki's mother to make sure Mikoto stayed in the city. So far for #3 the clones have been the important part of the plan but from the railgun manga it sounds like Mikoto being the shadow plan is likely to have more importance.
I don't think factions even mean much anymore, it's seems to be Kamijou Faction vs. antagonists, since most people drop their faction to go help Touma if they like him. Which 90% of the cast does.
>How can anyone be a fan of her?
How can you not?
Hamazura is another dirty traitor, so it's perfectly understandable that Mugino acts this way.
However, unlike Fre nda he does have a good Nreason to betray ITEM.
>Hamazura is another dirty traitor
Seriously, with lines like "hidden in the shadow of the main plan" and "sleeping power" it has to mean something. inb4 "Gensei is full of shit"
Mugino doesn't have the flexibility/applications with her powers needed to compete with those magicians. She has a lot of destructive power but anyone with some agility can take advantage of her lack of it.
I wouldn't really consider Misaki as capable of combat with the magic side, unless it's someone with a similar power.
True but I would think the extra trouble of controlling her would be worth it for higher quality clones, especially if something happened with Mikoto.
In theory, could anything happen to her? Even if she was killed/disappeared, they already had her DNA.
Hard to say if Mugino is Mikoto's backup like #2 is to #1. The only reason we know that #2 is a backup is that Kakine had that information as a major part of his plan. If the #4 #3 plan is related to the sisters radio noise Mugino can't be a backup. If the plan is becoming level 6 or another purpose it is possible.
Me too, anon. Me too. It'll be even more delicious if she is perfectly happy not winning Touma and is good friends with him. There will lots of shitflinging over something the characters don't even care about
Even ignoring the fact that there are more powerful magicians than saints (like Birdway), a high tier magician is just too versatile.
Accel got fucked by random cannon fodder magicians.
Gremlin members could easily beat lv5 espers. Hell, the likes of Lessar could deal with a mid tier lv5.
>so desperate to shit on one girl's fanbase that he "corrects" a post essentially saying the same thing
This is why all waifufag and shipping is cancer
Only way to be superior is not waifufag or ship
Do you guys think "Misaka can power up by forcibly connecting to her clones' network" won't be explored again ever? I seriously doubt it. Now, I'm not saying it will be successful and she'll actually die/become Nuit, but I bet anything Aleister will attempt a more sophisticated and complex version of it. I can see it getting BTFO though
She was forced because she can't do it on her own, did you even follow the series?
Hell no, the more weight she moves the slower her power works.
You're practically giving Kakin the upper hand.
She was so fugly in her demon form that her fanbase raged on 2chan and there isn't a single fanart of her.
I have a thing for beautiful and cruel women.
Like a rose with it's (absurdly) sharp thorns.
It is foreshadowing.
Yes Accelerator is the only one that can currently become a stable Level 6 where Mikoto would exist for less than a second, though not sure if this is in general or just forcing the level shift by using the Misaka network.
>mikotofags barely show up to threads anymore
>threads still always get spammed by waifu wars between Birdway, Misaki, Othinus
>everything gets blamed on mikotofags
its like im reliving the same thread every day
We are reliving the same thread every day, today's just seems to have better discussion beyond whether or not othinus and misaki are good people or good characters.
I'm not dumping frenda this thread if it makes anyone feel better.
Random magician like Lessar is strong enough to skewer a bulldozer like a tomato. They can run as supersonic speeds. Itsuwa could keep up with a saint moving a couple of times faster than sound.
Accel's power is crazy strong. But he could literally do nothing against a fast and agile magician like Lessar or Cendrillon. He couldn't hit Touma with his attacks and Touma is not faster than a normal human.
And this is talking just about pure power. Magicians have weird shit like charms, curses or magic that hits no matter the distance.
Depends on how you define Mikotofag.
Someone who likes her but not full autistic "muh actual waifu"?
An actual waifu autist who is extremely dedicated to her?
Anyone at all who enjoys any aspect of Mikoto?
Are you forgetting that Accel is literally an Angel? He was keeping up with FUSE Kazakiri and Archangel Gabriel before even getting his wings. You're severely underestimating Accelerator, unless you think a random magician could keep up with angels. Saints wouldn't even be able to do shit to Accel.
Still salty that lessar and mikoto didn't remember each other in NT8.
-less doesn't means they're not there, just a few always make threads become shit
-they never shit threads: Misakifags are almost dead, Othinusfags are memeposters, Birdfags are muh loli
The rest are falseflagers baiting.
-not always but most of the times yhehre
You mean braindead Gabriel that only kept auto-attacking with her wings or Kazakiri who used her fake angel powers for the first time? Later Accel and Kazakiri both team up on Gabriel and she was still fucking them up.
Meanwhile Worf-chan was was fighting Gabriel rather fine 20 volumes earlier.
And yes, Accel is strong against dumb frontal attacks. But when somebody uses magic in a smart way against him he's fucked. Hawaii agree.
We will probably see her animated in Railgun SS before we get Index 3.
>All waifushitters take turns spraying diarrhea all over threads.
And on that note, time to post some bestway.
>it's a "lets shit on waifufags/shippers while dragging down the current thread" episode
Threadly reminder that Mikoto will not end up with Touma, because Touma has no emotional affection towards her.
Even if they did get together, it wouldn't last long. She is too young and too immature for Touma to want to stay with her.
I still would be money that it wouldn't even get that far. We all know that the canon will be Touma staying single until the end of the series because the harem contention helps sell LN/mango/animu.
This isn't a debate, this is the OBJECTIVE TRUTH.
I just want to see her animated. That SS story would be perfect.
I doubt someone actually they insert as a Touma.
Look at Kamikoto for example, they don't give a fuck about Touma, they only care that Mikoto gets the dick not caring about what Touma's feelings are.
Hello, old friend.
I sure loved it when "changed" Mugino tried to murder a cute blonde loli because she said something mean.
I'm just here for worst and umidori. Not a yurifag though.
Wouldn't you get mad too if something you were cooking comes to life and starts talking shit?
>because he isn't retardedly shipping Mikoto with Touma
No because you're obviously baiting.
The only good oup that's is serious on its retarded delusions is Mikotofag group.
>anime only fags
>haters of any other heroine fanbase
>overrate their character
We're entering shit taste territory now.
Technically not shipping anon.
Do you hate cute familial love?
Hamazura didn't deserve it. NT1 wasn't bad at all.
It is forced shipping because it is the main female and male characters in the series. At one point it was Index vs Mikoto but In NT Index fell even further from being relevant. They never even addressed Index learning about Touma's memory loss.
>TOTAL OBJECTIVE TRUTH HAHA CANT DISCUSS THIS HAHA
No ones falling for it though, you should try something else.
Not that I really care but I've seen this arguement before and there's no real evidence for it. It's also kind of pointless because Kamachi obviously isn't going to write any romance until the very end.
You're right about everything you said about Mikotofags
>Othinusfags don't believe their delusions
>Misakifags don't overrate her
>no Othinusfag or Misakifags has ever hated on other heroines ever
>They never even addressed Index learning about Touma's memory loss.
It did on WIII, and was the only way Fiamma had to shake Touma's resolve almost making him cry, and he did told her on vol.22 with her telling him to not worry about it and him making a promise to her which has yet to be fulfilled after the love confession.
Kamachi is putting them on hold on purpose.
Compare it when Mikoto learned on vol.14 about it and Touma just shut her up on vol.16 and the issue was never brought up again.
Probably because the accel spinoff takes place long before WW3?
Seeing the bait is the same as falling for it now?
You know what I hate more than waifufags and shippers? Fucktards shitting up an entire thread just to shit on waifufags and shippers not realizing that they're being even more cancerous themselves.
Kill yourselves immediately, mouthbreathing tumors.
I don't give a shit about shipping, but it's an undeniable fact that they got more development in one volume than KamiKoto got through the entire series.
>Fucktards shitting up an entire thread just to shit on waifufags and shippers not realizing that they're being even more cancerous themselves.
What about the asshats fucking threads up by shitting on fags that are shitting on waifufags and posters?
Let's take a break from this nonsense and post some based male characters.
No fujoshits/homos allowed though.
You do realize you sound just like a cancerous shipperfag when you keep pushing this narrative that one girl attracts more bad fans than any other? It isn't based on any thing other than you talking out of your ass.
Othinusfags came to be by pulling down their pants and shitting on all the other girls and jerking off to it.
Mikotoshipperfags are garbage and I can't wait to see the ship sink completely but don't behave as though their fans can't be highly obnoxious too
Can I post some bro pics?
Shipperfags aside, Touma's friendships with male characters are pretty good. Kamachi shows with Heavy Object that bros are objectively the best thing ever.
Manga is ok, and Estelle is his cute sidekick. She's a necromancer.
No, you're contributing fuck all in terms of discussion. You just keep harping on this shit opinion of yours that you've made multiple times in this thread. How is that any better than delusional shippers?
>the bittersweet feeling of enjoying heavy object's shenanigans yet wishing it was index 3 instead
Again, stop being in denial and accept that Mikotofags are the champions when it comes to hating on other girls. This is nothing new or surprising.
Mikoto has always attracted the most bad sheep in the fanbase. She's the gateway to the series, after all. Animefags, yurifags, crossboarders, MALfags, Facebook, etc, that's the cancer that Mikoto brings in for the most part.
And they sperg hard each time when someone says only Othinus and Index are special to Touma even when Mikoto who always thought of herself as someone speciql herself realized she isn't that to Touma since OT5.
I don't hate Mikoto herself, in fact I really like her but I hate Kamikoto with a passion of a trillion Suns.
It's always awkward for me, I'm half on the side of the haters and half on the side of her fans.
Should have added that the Railgun anime and manga aren't a harem series, just Index (basically, there aren't tens of girls all blushing and being awkward around Touma in Railgun, just in Index).
And yet you're not bitching about them. I remember spammer-kun, less than a year ago we couldn't even have a normal raildex thread. For that reason alone I will hate anyone who mindlessly starts hating on Mikoto. Because one of those faggets is the guy who literally ruined our threads.
She is popular because she is a tsundere action girl, that automatically secures a fanbase no matter how shit the series is, just look at Zero no Tsukaima, Shana, Oreimo.
Mikoto only lacked Kugimiya Rie to complete the set.
Her irrelevancy boosts her appeal a bit.
Just some old news, a good number of the raildex fanbase on /a/ is shit and continue to argue over the same meaningless shit.
Still more interesting than a super cliche' "magic girl harem centered around indifferent male lead with no interesting features other than a mysterious super power".
At least in Railgun you don't have to deal with Touma much. In Railgun Mikoto is much more open and less awkward than she is in Index.
Mikoto has had plenty of cancerous haters too. I complained about the guys who forced the pigfucker meme in 2011 and ruined many threads. Same with spammer. But at the same time I can't deny that Mikoto attracts a lot of low quality posters.
>says / does
that's called bad writing unless he runs the full gamit of chaotic neutral tendencies, or has any other subversive streaks e.g. observing harm to others in general without acting
She still becomes retard when Touma is around on Railgun manga.
And it would be better she she stopped needing being rescued in her own story by Touma(not counting the mandatory sister arc )
Yeah I agree completely. I personally think they should just make it an AU already (even between the manga and anime there are huge discrepancies in the story) and give her more stories focused around her and her friends.
I don't know if, story wise, she is the best character. There are a lot of much better designed characters in Raildex than Mikoto. Still, she is my personal favorite by far.
I sperg when
people ship her with Touma
Watch index 2 and then railgun S, Railgun S is the best part of raildex until index 3 airs, so it's best to save it for last.
He claims moral faggotry but he almost flups when Kamisato called shit on that.
Touma is a sophistryfag with butthurt when someone does the same he usually does without his approval.
And now defending Mikoto is a bad thing? Smacktalk Othinus and you'll get the same thing.
>I personally hate Othinus with every fiber of my being
Good for you, she doesn't get enough smack.
I know, but you don't have to manipulate it directly. He can manipulate vectors of individual particles and accomplish it that way. Preventing his blood from boiling should be well within his abilities.
>tfw explaining stuff to new people is all the joy I get from these threads any more
You can pick up the railgun manga and index LN at the same time. Start from the beginning for the manga.
For the LN read volume 13, then SS1, then volume 14 onwards. Reading the first 13 isn't truly necessary because it's quite redundant, and I'd only say to read it if you get well into NT.
It triggers their autism.
You just don't defend a character if you don't care about them.
Othinus got her fair share of hate with legit reasons and just because Touma is a forgiving faggot doesn't obliges the reader to forgive her.
My bad, I meant reading the first 12 aren't necessary until later.
That's what happens when you have the power of time-stretching phases.
What really surprises me is that Othinus did not try to make someone else go through the infinite hells with the explicit ability to no-sell most of her powers.
Alright then, Frenda a shit because
she left her poor sister all alone by herself by making a foolish decision without any regards for other people.
I honestly don't mind Frenda much.
They just need to replicate railgun S' animation at minimum.
I've seen plenty of text walls defending Othinus. It's died down a bit but there was a point that it seemed as though you weren't allowed to dislike Othinus without being called a shitposter, Mikotofag, or retard that can't read - the implication being that you couldn't possibly dislike her if you'd read the story correctly
But anon, by the time Index 3 comes out full on CGI anime will be the standard.
We already got 2 this season.
I don't remember that. Recalling NT12 threads, people argued a lot about Othinus, and it was in the most respectful way I remember this fanbase talking about female characters.
But they literally have no way to break Misaki's mind control because it's not based in any of their magic foundations and isn't part of the idol theory.
They are honestly quite fucked against someone like her.
Mikoto discussions are generally more aggressive and hostile. There is more stubbornness to concede or even listen to the other side and that leads to endless circular arguments.
Yet you will have people defending him with everything he does.
It is my sincere wish that Othinus being alive fucks everyone and everything up somehow just so Touma can be completely wrong for once and have done something bad. Probably won't happen but I can hope.
I don't hate her, and understand that the two came to a deep understanding, but well, it kind of came due to millions of rounds of mindbreak. It's dubious to say that it's really a healthy thing to start a love on. Friends okay, romance...eh.
If anything it's Will-tan that was the MVP and best bro there, just that he can't interact with Will.
Misaki and Will, Kamachi really punched them in the ovaries more than anyone in their pursuit of the T.
And are you talking about the Mikotofags or the Mikotohaters there? Mikotohaters tend to come up with the stupidest shit in their hate so offcourse Mikotofags aren't going to listen. Just yesterday a Mikotohater literally said that violence against Touma is only a problem when Mikoto does it.
Not that it matter all that much stubborness to concede is just a general /a/ thing. You'll find it in every discussion here, not just the Mikoto, Othinus or Misaki ones.
No, because that invalidates the message of redemption and forgiveness by making him "wrong". Make it hard sure, but making him wrong for keeping her alive is encouraging her plans for suicide, and enabling her to run from atonement.
See, living and understanding you were wrong is the greatest penance, the greatest punishment.
sweet it looks like you raildexfags are just warming up for dem autistic wall of text spreg outs. I was worried there don't scare me like that again!
Both. Mikoto haters may seem the bigger offenders, but getting called a hater or THK just because you dislike her relationship with Touma (among other things) isn't any better.
>Not that it matter all that much stubborness to concede is just a general /a/ thing.
I was just poiting out how surprising it was that there was actual good discussion about Othinus during NT12. A big contrast to what happened with Frenda at the same time.
Funny thing is we don't have a confirmation that he romantically loves her. Yes, we have lust but you can have the hots for someone without being in love. We don't have confirmation of lust or love from Othinus.
Some of the clones may have a thing for Touma, but it's innocent and childish in nature. Will-chan doesn't have romantic feelings for Touma. It's even compared to a teen looking at a rock star.
It doesn't invalidate the message at all. Touma is able to understand that Othinus as well as other Saints and magic gods were envied for their power and that led to misfortune for friends, family and themselves. If Kamisato or someone else were to kill Othinus it wouldn't make himself or anyone else wrong. Also Touma doesn't care about being right or wrong he just tries for the happy end for everyone.
>just because you dislike her relationship with Touma
I don't think you get that much flak from criticising that. The haters attack Mikoto herself often, not just her relationships.
>getting called a hater
Well what's wrong with that? When they are one, and admit it?
She hasn't been redeemed. Forgiven sure but she hasn't paid for what she did. But if her paying for her crimes is "be happy with Touma", that's not paying for it. I'd rather Touma be wrong for keeping her alve
>I'd rather Touma be wrong for keeping her alve
I doubt that's going to happen, she's shown to much guilt for that I think. Though the "othinus is kind"-stuff could point to it.
I wonder which would negatively impact Touma the most though; Othinus dying or Othinus turning evil again.
What. Most of the hate Mikoto gets is her being a tsundere for Touma in Index. I don't recall that much hate coming from her character in Railgun, where she's different.
>Well what's wrong with that?
It's wrong when you get called that only for the fact you dislike that part of her character. Personally it has happened to me a bunch of times, and things didn't end well.
Isn't her punishment that she has to see the world continue to be happy around her?
>“Even if your form and the total amount of power contained within it have changed, you are still closer to being a magic god than a human. You have been weakened too far to ever use magic again, though. To be blunt, do you even have a lifespan? If throwing you into a cell for a hundred years wouldn’t add a single wrinkle, imprisonment won’t accomplish anything. We need to create a new punishment that will be especially effective against you and only you.”
>They were not her friends or her comrades in arms.
>They had coolly analyzed her actions and they dryly gave their answer.
>“You must forever watch the world of happiness you went as far as suicide to look away from. That is the greatest punishment humanity can give you now that we have achieved victory over a magic god.”
If anything, she's going to have to live for an eternity without Touma after he eventually dies.
>Most of the hate Mikoto gets is her being a tsundere for Touma in Index.
Well tsundere is part of her personality, not her relationship with Touma.
>It's wrong when you get called that only for the fact you dislike that part of her character.
Well that would be wrong but most of the people that I've seen diss Mikoto just have a blind hatred for her. For the simple reason that she's a tsundere, when in fact you can hardly call her one.
What I'm saying is, seems to me like Mikotofags have the most reason to be defensive. Especially if you look at this thread, it's filled with Mikotofag bashing which seems to come out of nowhere as there's hardly a mikotofag in the thread.
They're assuming a great deal there. For all we know she'll start aging soon. There's also nothing stopping her from commiting sudoku when Touma dies. Meanwhile she gets to be happy living with Touma. NT14 was even about her having a happy dinner with him and her getting frustrated when it wasn't happening.
Also from what I understand she wanted to to return to her original world because there she would be loved again. In the current world everyone hated and/or feared her, and I think there were some lines that said it had been this way for a while. When Touma learned to understand her and wanted to save her the current world effectively became the world she wanted. So that line about commiting suicide to look away from it was kind of stupid. Especially since it looked like she just wanted to spare Touma the trouble and repent. I could be wrong though.
>Well tsundere is part of her personality, not her relationship with Touma.
She is only tsundere towards Touma. In Railgun she's different, outside of Touma's cameos.
>For the simple reason that she's a tsundere, when in fact you can hardly call her one.
She is one though. She is the protagonist of a manga spin-off in which she has her own life outside of being a love interest. That makes her personality more rounded, but all of it is developed and expanded from the tsundere archetype, the base of her character.
>it's filled with Mikotofag bashing which seems to come out of nowhere
This is a years old issue, and I really don't want to open that can of words. Other anons addressed this earlier in the thread though.
I'm guessing it has to do with Accelerator doing something (maybe a power up, maybe a ritualistic death) and Mikoto being forced onto the clone network. I'm guessing these two actions will open up some kind of gate to the pure world or grant Aleister the ability to access it. Touma would be a reset button and/or key. Only my vague guess that's probably wrong
>She is one though.
I've argued about this before in the past and she actually is a really mild tsundere. She was never really that cold towards Touma. Only in the first novel pherhaps and not that much.
>This is a years old issue
That really shouldn't matter. Was there a reason to start shit about it in this thread? Haven't read the full thing but doesn't seem like there is.
>She is only tsundere towards Touma.
Well yes, tsundere are usually only like that towards the person they like.
>That really shouldn't matter. Was there a reason to start shit about it in this thread?
People started shitting on waifufags in general, and then of course that was going to be brought up.
>Well yes, tsundere are usually only like that towards the person they like.
My point is that for most tsunderes the tsundere part of their personality is the biggest, if not the only focus they receive in their stories.
>People started shitting on waifufags in general, and then of course that was going to be brought up.
Here's my theory, the people shitting on Mikotofags are actually Mikotohaters that felt like redirecting their rage towards actual people instead of just Mikoto.
>Well yes, tsundere are usually only like that towards the person they like.
Nobody would shit on Mikoto if she showed her dere side to Touma.
>It's wrong when you get called that only for the fact you dislike that part of her character. Personally it has happened to me a bunch of times, and things didn't end well.
>Mikotofags have the most reason to be defensive.
They start shitting on other girls m8.
Let's go back to OT threads, most if not all of the Index haters just were, guess who? Mikotofags
And what they pushed the most? Kamikoto and "muh cute tsundere antics" and shitting on other girls fans. Her famdom earned a poor reputation.
There isn't just blind hatred, just like Index's biting routine got tiring, Mikoto's lack of dere became old, the difference is that Mikoto is running in circles on her character development that is mostly centered about Touma while Index already has her points solid with no need to hammer our heads about how special her relationship with Touma is(something Kamachi is doing with Othinus sadly) and has a huge lack of screentime compared to the former.
>Nobody would shit on Mikoto if she showed her dere side to Touma.
She does, constantly now. And she has never showed much tsun.
OT was years ago, time to move on m8.
>There isn't just blind hatred
Were you around during the NT13 translations? I've already given an example from just yesterday too. Mikoto definetly gets the most blind, undeserved hatred out of all the girls.
The LN threads when a new volume come out are fucking garbage.
NT 14 was faggots bitching about hur dur Touma's harem is better than Kamisato's for like 3 chapters.
NT13 was just people arguing over misaka and shit and also how she didn't even improve the sales
NT12 started off alright then faggots were complaining about hamazura trying to save his gf .
>She does, constantly now. And she has never showed much tsun.
Dere m8, not just being a friend behaving like a friend
I was and I couldn't help but chuckle.
It's reaping what they sow after shitting on other characters, if fucking Kamachi made Mikoto not gravitate around Touma every time she is in the ride making her the same way it wouldn't give them "weapons" to attack the character with.
And it wasn't just here, it happened on fucking 2ch of all places as well.
>Wah wah people are talking the novel that just came.
It's one of those situations where who hits first wins.
And I'm pretty sure that the likes of Birdway have something to deal with mind control. She had a tarot that literally saves you from dying.
>your favorite girl will never get 400 post threads of waifu shitposting and pointless arguments
>your favorite guy will never be popular enough to warrant shitposting
Feels comfy being a fan of Saiai and Hamazura. Hopefully kamachi doesn't shit on them whenever takitsubo's level 5 arc (or whatever is next for ITEM) begins.
>NT 14 was faggots bitching about hur dur Touma's harem is better than Kamisato's for like 3 chapters.
Nah, just vocal samefags. Note how several posts were deleted by mods
>NT13 was just people arguing over misaka and shit and also how she didn't even improve the sales
Ironically true, I expected to be hyped as fuck but I guess same bait doesn't works twice with nips.
>NT12 started off alright then faggots were complaining about hamazura trying to save his gf .
It was more about how Shinka was a shit bland character, and they were right this time.
Majority of you fags talk about irrelevant shit just for the sake of arguing.
>Dere m8, not just being a friend behaving like a friend
What the fuck are you even talking about?
>It's reaping what they sow after shitting on other characters
Again, what the fuck are you even talking about.
I bet you're on of those people that kept insisting she got BTFO even after the novel was fully translated.
I didn't say nothing about Hamazura, the only ones complaining were Toumafags mad that he beat the hell out of Touma and his faggotry whic Kamachi already previously told since OT22.
>Large amount of Touma dick sucking claiming he is just a normal student while pulling all that shit he came up with
>Wasted characters from OT
>While fucking introducing MORE characters
>that aren't even going to be used
>poorly executed villains/antagonists
>lack of Hamazura and Accelerator as well as other characters like Tsuchumikado
>Fiamma jobbing(I'm fucking mad about this, I would rather have him missing again)
>Being a fan of Hamazura
>Being a fan of a literal Touma clone with no IB
That was a valid complaint, I didn't like it either but that's just how it was in the manga. Frenda needed some some to shine since Saiai gets a lot more time in index.
That's why it would make for an interesting story, I'd like to see what aleister does (especially if he is the one that pulls the trigger on that project).
>Fuyukawa being Fuyukawa
I'm surprised he got Gunha right.
>That's why it would make for an interesting story
And that helmet lady from OT22 already spilled the beans about that
I only hope is better handled than lol magic gods.
>Touma clone with no IB
Oh come on. He's a lot more down to earth and easier to relate with than Touma. Their similarities are limited.
Plus it's fun seeing a literal who thug with no hidden abilities man the fuck up and get shit done in a world full of magic and esper bullshit.
People were mad because they thought Hamazura was being smug about beating Touma while having a powersuit. I'm pretty sure sentiment changed when he just said he wanted to save his waifu and then him and Touma made up 5 pages later and he actually turned pretty bro for the rest of the volume.
And he isn't some deluded selproclaimed normal person faggot.
>I'm pretty sure sentiment changed when he just said he wanted to save his waifu
It was fucking obvious that was the fucking point, they were just retarded speedreaders.
I think Kamachi is setting it up. The girl in the dress can apparently extract info easily without torture and Frenda betraying them was just the conclusion Mugino jumped to after being clearly off her rocker.
Im thinking of them killed themselves. The experiment didn't seem to go on that long.
Even if the experiment lasted a year, he would have had to have killed ~30 clones a day. Even if he didn't sleep, that's more than one clone an hour. adjusting for sleeping, that's 4-5 clones an hour.
No matter how you look at it, he simply did not have time to get "edgy and creative" with a vast majority of the clones.
Most of them likely died from reflected gunshot wounds or other weapons they might have used
Can't wait for magic side characters to start appearing in Railgun outside of SS volumes. It's inevitable and Accel's manga is already doing it.
She has the ability to manipulate AIM. AIM Stalker is just one manifestation of this ability.
When Misaki was Level 2 she might not have been called Mental Out, if all she could do was mess with people's perceptions.
This is a rare sight.
There are three, does this mean index 3 is confirmed?
Manipulation of AIM fields, which at level 5 could forcibly remove or boost someone's esper abilities.
That's just a simple way of putting it but read the end of OT22. The two best examples are when she confronted kakine in OT 15 and tried to disrupt his power and again in NT6 when she succeeded in disrupting him and indirectly creating beetle.
I'm hoping Railgun will explain this. Maybe they had some other adventures together and just pretended.
They were great together in SS. The best team-up Mikoto ever had.
I'd rather take a Floris.
>she cried because she lost rock-paper-scissors and couldn't come to AC
I want to give her a hug.
Magic side spin-off fucking when?
Don't bully the girls. But a tsuchimikado spin-off is what I'd like the most for the magic side.
Well, if we're trying to even out the male and females then birdway might be a good choice.
I know kanzaki had her own side story but I don't think she is as interesting as birdway.
So anyways, can't any magician beat any esper by just casting the most basic curse or even buff at them?
Magic ruins their bodies and makes their veins explode.
>And we really don't need more focus on male characters.
Nigga that is exactly what we need. Male characters are actually pretty based and that way no ensuing waifuwars occurs.
She would have kicked his ass for what he did back in england. And then become a haremette.
Probably too strong to be the MC. You would need to keep throwing saints at her or there wouldn't even be any challenge.
Wasn't NT14 a challenge for her? She was willing to get herself killed for Patricia there; that can't have been the only close call.
I want to see her sacrifice her fellow cabal members as Mark Space alluded to in Stiyl SS.