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To be blunt: Anno is a plagiarist hack.

Top is from the novel 'the General Zapped An Angel.'
And the bottom is from the theaterical 'End of Evangelion.'

Why is this allowed?
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End of Eva was otaku pandering trash anyway, the Rebuilds are far more true to the tone of the original series.
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>The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9 King James Bible
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>>136257847
Here's your reply
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Eva is trash and Anno is a hack; more at 11.
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original ramiel > anno's ramiel
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It's tribute when anon likes
It's plagiarism when anon doesn't
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>>136258221
Move over, posting best girl
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I think it's neat that the halves are opposite so they could be joined, that's all I got to say
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>>136257847
how is drawing inspiration from something plagiarizing
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>>136258144
Quit with snark, anon. All I want to know is how Anno got away with it?
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Eva Defence Force will be here very soon
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SACCHY IS A CUTE! CUTE!!
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>>136258393
You call that inspiration? It's an imitation of the cover to a novel.
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>>136257847
Evangelion makes reference to and even outright takes a lot of visual motifs from other works. I don't think it's a bad thing.
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>>136257847
Here's your reply.
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>>136257847
Nice tumblr image.

>>136257959
>Rebuilds are far more true to the tone of the original series

no

>>136258221
Who is the original Ramiel?
Lalah? How?

>>136258422
By making his own thing out of diffrent stuff.
That's how all art is made.

>>136258475
Literally a few seconds out of the whole franchise.
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>>136258556
Asuka is best girl, faggot.
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>>136258613
My nigga my nigga
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>>136258556
trash posters into the trash
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>>136258613
Yeah I know.
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>>136258613
>>136258662
Nah, sachiel is a best
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>>136258475
oh fuck Monogatari's ripping of Akira!
Shame on you Shaft!
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>Postscript. Yesterday, when I was in a state of mental collapse after my latest work had ended, I was moved deep within my heart by an encouraging phone call I received. The words of concern proceeding from the receiver became joy on my end as, with a exaltant face, my whole body was buoyed. In secret, I rejoiced in receiving some recognition for myself. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
>My master, the Lord Miyazaki Hayao-sama. From a (self-proclaimed) prodigal son, Anno Hideaki.
Anno x Miyazaki = OTP.

Anno is the sub to Miyazaki dom.
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>>136258810
Shit, why are animators so fucking unoriginal!
This is why the industry's dying
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>>136258810
That's different. It's a homage.
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>>136258556
ramiel screams like her
I can't find that scene on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYIimWk6YY
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>>136258896
Define and explain the difference between the two in the context of OP's picture.
Do it, or be declared a shitposting mong faggot
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>>136258221
>original ramiel
Which one? Urashiman's Super X, Castle in the Sky's engine, or 2001's trip-out?
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>>136257847
https://desustorage.org/a/search/image/er59UokQCd64do6iUxcRsw/
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who is best angel and why is it Arael
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>>136259027
>pleb tier angel
>No shoulders
>No adoreable blinking
>Can't even fucking walk.
Mate.
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>>136259138
wait I thought Sachiel was black not green
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>>136259175
Super subtle shades. Rebuild puts it more towards a green/grey shade.
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>>136258896
>>136257847
Man, what a bunch of hacks, stealing cultural pieces and claiming it their own
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>>136258896
No reply.
You're a mong, shitposting faggot.
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>>136258925
Wait, weren't Ramiels screams the same as the space monsters screams from Gunbuster?

Lalah doesn't even "scream", does she?
That's the sound people here when she's attacking. Kind of similar to Ramiel I guess.
https://my.mixtape.moe/sfpwzf.mp3

>>136258999
>trips
>that image
>that link

Great post.
>Op doesn't even bother changing the filename
>It's almost like he's bai-

>>136259247
Maybe it's just that image but the colors look like shit on him.
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>>136259248
Right?
>>136257847
It's like they're not even trying
Plagerist cunts!

in case there are people who have a disorder preventing them from noticing sarcasm, this is sarcasm
It's not plagiarism you dumbasses. Homage, inspiration, reference, artists do it all the fucking time.
No one is copying and pasting backgrounds from these older pictures. more like imitating by making it themselves
I wish I was more knowledgeable enough to see Renascence paintings inspired by other paintings. I'm sure there were some
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>>136257847
Because its good
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>>136259609
Sachiel may be best angel, but rebuild shit the bed on it's colouring.
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>>136258999
I refuse to resign until I receive a sincere answer. Snark and mockery won't get anybody anywhere.
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>>136259872
Why is this allowed: See >>136259480
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>>136259480
Like you aren't either? Fuck off hypocrite.
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>>136259872
here
>>136259635
>>136258963
>>136258518
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>>136259909
How'd you know that isn't OP samefagging his own thread?
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>>136257847
>x inspired by y
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
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>thinly veiled homage thread
I'll play along, OP!
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>>136259872
>I refuse to stop being a shitposting faggot until I've received enough replies to satisfy my autism.
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>>136260006
I don't. But even then, the person is a mong, shitposting faggot.
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>>136259981
THOSE WEREN'T SINCERE ANSWERS.
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>>136260150
ᵂʰᶦˢᵖᵉʳ⋅
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>>136258979
The Blue Water, of course
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>>136260117
Nice way to out yourself as a shitposter, anon.
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>>136259858
Damn, I remember watching 1.11 for the first time and then this scene happend and I was crying because of the CG.
Fuck you Anno.

>>136260150
Why not?
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>>136260098
>>>/co/
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>>136260304
Fuck you Anno indeed, but praise be to Sachiel. Sachiel is best angel and is a cute
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For once can't there be a good Evangelion thread?
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>>136260304
>I was crying because of the CG
Did it trigger you anon?
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>>136260304
>Why not?
If nobody want to answer seriously, I'll take this to /m/.
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>>136260485
>Eva's
>/m/
Hahaha fuck off mate
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>>136259609
that newtype shit was creepy as fuck, why didn't Tomino keep it?
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>>136260478
No, it just made me sad.
;_;

>>136260485
It's ok if you create something similar to some other work if you make something new out of it. If you use your own ideas to enhance and evolve what was there before. And that's what Anno did.

If you take this to /m/ I'll fuck you in the arse.
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>>136260809
I feel like your answer was the most sincere, thanks anon.
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I dont know OP, why dont you learn moon and write 100 letters to anno or his studio. Maybe they'll reply to your pity ass.
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>Even the name of the anime is a unoriginal blatant copy from other work of fiction.
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>>136257847
You've got a hardon for Anno? Need to release all the sexual tension?

Read Re:Take, masturbate to it, and quit making these threads.
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>>136261780
v1 or v1.5?
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>>136261266
>calling something unoriginal and posting fate
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>>136257847
That's a pretty clever, subtle homage. Thanks for sharing anon!
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>>136257847
Fun fact: "The General Zapped an Angel" was written by Howard Fast, who also wrote the novel "Spartacus", which was adapted into a film directed by Stanley Kubrick, who also directed "2001: A Space Odyssey" which was a major influence for Eva and EoE in particular.

The more you know!
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>>136262919
>"2001: A Space Odyssey" which was a major influence for Eva and EoE in particular.
source
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>>136263019
Have you seen it?
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>>136264033
yeah but to say Anno drew inspiration from 2001 is a little overboard.
From what I know his inspiration was Ideon mostly
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>>136265150
You're a mong if you couldn't see the influence in his directing style in EOE.
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How is 'The General Zapped An Angle'? Worth a read?
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>>136265150
Yes I'm sure all the stuff having to do with the moon, cosmic mind trips, giant nude space entities and the symbolic rebirth of the human race via literal birthing/womb metaphors couldn't have been influenced by 2001 at all.

Anon, pretty much every science fiction film in the last 45 years has been influenced by 2001. Science fiction anime is no different.
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>>136266026
I'd say the Instrumentality part owes more to Clarke's Childhood's End. The last act of that book is pretty much EoE, except better.
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>>136266377
Childhood's End is an obvious influence too, but Eva draws at least as much inspiration from 2001 and its imagery. Remember the SEELE monoliths?

Also, directly comparing EoE with Clarke's work is kind of silly because Clarke wasn't exactly writing about the transcendence of man and stuff as a grandiose metaphor for alienation and loneliness, at least not explicitly.
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>>136266377
The intent of the aliens and mature choice for humans are opposite to EoE, like the same shape with the polarity reversed.
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He even steals from architects.
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>>136257847
Silly OP, it's only plagiarism if it came after Eva, if something precedes Eva then it's called "Homage", don't try to argue with Evafags otherwise.
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>>136266874
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>>136261266
You're one of those teenagers who moves copies of the Bible into the fiction section in libraries, aren't you? I hate edgy atheists
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I truly think the original series + EoE are a respectful piece of art that has tons of different meanings and interpretations.

I do think the Rebuild films are hack works, tho, especially 3.33.

The entire film makes no sense IN-UNIVERSE. They simply ignore things that happened in the previous film or in the same film, and outright tell the viewer that things happened differently when they didn't. This isn't your average Evangelion convoluted plot, this is just hack "look how confusing this all is! must be smart!" writing.
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>all this homage/plagiarism discussion

This anon >>136258263 already gave the correct answer.
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There's literally nothing wrong with plagiarism.
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>>136257847
Eva used tons of stuff from earlier works.

Color me surprised.
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>>136258422
Everything is a remix.

EVERYTHING.

Most romance movies are Romeo & Juliet just a bit tweaked.
Most songs are Pachebel's Canon in D.
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>>136268030
Fuck off Anno apologist.

>>136268102
I'll colour you black coz that's the only colour pencile I am using at the moment, nigger.
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>>136268322
And every grunge is Nirvana, Heavy Rock is Lemmy, and Glam Metal Bowie, right? Piss off.
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>newfags didn't even watched daikon IV video
Gainax "homaging" something? STOP THE PRESSES!
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>>136266377
>except better
Gonna have to disagree with you there, I like the ending of CE but the way eoe approaches its climax is far more interesting because the narrative itself falls apart
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>>136257847
Okay, nigger, if you're going to keep spamming these bullshit threads, why don't you explain to the class just WHAT Anno ripped off from General Zapped An Angel?
Can you?
I don't think you can.
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ITT: retarded evafags take the bait again
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>>136271430
What is it with JoJofags and having to accompany ALL of their posts with reaction images, even if it doesn't necessarily fit
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>The Beast II is just a slowed down Decisive Battle
Why did it take me years to realize this
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>>136271499
I only have two JJBA reaction images though. Pic is the other one.

Anything else I have is just QUALITY from the end of Part 3.
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>>136271348
The cover art.
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>>136272695
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Any news on 4.0 or will Anno never release it just to troll everyone?
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>>136257847
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>>136257959
>true to the series
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I'm sad to see no one mentioned my favorite of Anno's works, Top wo Nerae!
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>>136274908
Godzilla comes out this summer, so my guess is that 4 isn't even in a production stage.
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>>136257847
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