>Another Oscar with Ghibli bullshit again
>No win again
So Urobuchi was to close to get a indication for Oscar. The next Madoka would get chances to win a Oscar indication ?
rebellion not winning one was a travesty.
say what you will about the movie and it's inaccessibility to western audiences but the art, cinematography, and acting are incredible and deserved more then a dismissive glance that western reviews gave it.
>/a/ pretending the Oscars don't mean anything because some overrated shit anime movie isn't nominated
The Oscars suck even for awarding US films, there is no way in hell they will ever give Nippon animation the respect it deserves unless Disney decides to shill the hell out of another ghibli film, which is exactly what happened with Spirited Away
Marnie was good and I cried in the theater, but I don't think it deserves an Oscar... Tale of Princess Kaguya on the other hand, if there was an anime film since Spirited Away that should have won, that was it. I wasn't surprised but I was still disappointed
Nominations don't work that way. Films are voted by the particular branch which is usually very knowledgeable on the subject matter. Winning an Oscar has every member vote which is dominated by SAG-AFTRA that has the most members but often knows very little of the particulars and may not watch all the films.
They do not matter, but that's not the real reason. The reason they do not matter is that there is no objective quality to art and that a bunch of "academics" and industry insiders jerking each other off doesn't give any measure of quality to the awards they,well, award.
And even the fields medal and the nobel prize in physics have their faults, though they do tend to reflect a wide academic consensus of people in the field. The oscars don't represent the criteria of anywhere near a majority of people involved in the film world, just that of a smug rich elite.
whether you think the Oscars have merit or not, it's still a massive boon to the marketing of the thing.
I doubt many 4channers in general give a shit about any award shows of any medium outside of shitposting and meme potential. If a noteworthy award show exists not bogged down by politics and circle-jerking, I haven't heard of it.
Normies know about Ghibli.
Normies do not know about Urobochi.
Ghibli films aren't even in the same scale as other anime films, no studio will waste 50 million dollars on an anime film. There are like 5 anime films that managed more than 10 million usd in the box office.
It's all about demographics and the real problem is that there is a huge difference between ghibli and the others, no middle ground whatsoever.
Normies know about neither.
The hollywood elite know about both, but Ghibli is the one and only "japanimation" in their eyes that will ever compare to Walt Disney's work, which is their criteria for it being good. Once Ghibli releases their last film, no anime will ever win an Oscar again. I'm not gonna discuss Urobichi's quality to lack of thereof because it's not really relevant to the oscars. Seriously, go read early western critiques of anime from when it was first entering the west, like form the 60s, and you'll realize that the naive and outdated standards expressed by those critics are the same ones used by professional western critics nowadays.
Also what >>136256886
says, Ghibli has massively more money than any other studio.
And how is that different from something like Marnie?
Obviously I think the best animated films should play to the freedom animation gives them compared to live action, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to pretend that Anomalisa isn't the best pick there.
>who even wants an Oscar?
>Caring about an award that treats animation as a genre instead of a medium
And this is primarily the main reason why I hate the American Animation Industry.
That and the fact they treat a majority of animation like it can only be made for retarded children.
I would say the Palme d'or award from the Cannes film festival is the most prestigious as it is much more international. Oscars are heavily tied to the American film industry. For instance look at this >>136257248
, a mainstream A list American actor is treated like he deserves an award because he has been in a large number of mainstream, successful films.
Also, very relevant captcha
It is very cool, there is a huge upcoming group of insanely talented animators coming out of Brazil. Nominations are made by people who know animation why you can get some very cool small projects be nominated for animation and animated short.
Cannes is also more accepting of weird, small movies by people who arent' neccessarily "in the know". I mean, Kung Fury was shown at Cannes.
they treat a majority of animation like it can only be made for retarded children
Not true, they (still) see the Simpsons and South Park as this newflanged mature animation that can be watched by adults. Retarded, immature adults, but adults nonetheless.
But yeah, the fact that they can't really conceive of the fact that animation doesn't have to be bound to one particular type of story or genre makes the whole thing a sham.
>But yeah, the fact that they can't really conceive of the fact that animation doesn't have to be bound to one particular type of story or genre makes the whole thing a sham.
Stuff like this always reminds me of an interview they did with the stars of the Supernatural the Animation series and one of the guys goes on how animation is legit kind of awesome because of how much more freedom and creativity you can do in animation compared to live-action. I wish more Hollywood people thought like this dude.
Short Peace actually made it to the real nomination unlike Madoka which didn't even make the shortlist was merely submitted. Only Ghibli, Sunrise and one other studio have ever been nominated for an Oscar, only Ghibli has actually won thanks to a really slow period for Disney clout and a bunch of flukes.