>>136250886 EVERYTHING Toei does has shitty animation. Original DB/Z had some episodes that hurt the eyes. So did Saint Seiya. Furthermore, Sailor Moon Crystal and Saint Seiya Soul of Gold were fucking awful, and both are recent. Toei specializes in low budget, shitty looking animation. If you want something done good, go to Sunrise or other studio. You can even get Tatsunoko to give you decent animation if you pay them enough. Toei? Never, only in some movies.
>>136249948 What I wonder, though, is how much he can improve under Piccoro's training. He can't get far beyond where he actually was. In fact, in DBZ the two times he was at his peak was when he trained under Goku and "Old Kai". Unless Piccoro picked something up from the gods and steps up his game (and if he did he didn't show it, he was easily killed by Freezer) I can't see how much he can help Gohan surpass the power of SSJ2. What I don't understand is why Piccoro is selected in that picture of the martial tournament, he's actually quite weak. Did he at least reach Majin Boo levels? At the end of Z he was even below Cell's power level.
>>136251846 At least it would be great if while the others are in the tournament they send a legitimate thread to Earth, someone at Freezer's power level or beyond, and Gohan goes all badass and stops him. I get it that he has his family and all, but it's really a pity how they made him the new Yamcha so far.
Listen, faggots. If fucking Freeza can get as strong as the Gods in just 4 months when he previously wouldn't even be able to beat 18, what's to stop Gohan from reaching that level through training when he is far stronger than Freeza was before his revival?
>>136253862 So? If that's your excuse, I can say that Gohan has hidden power. And he's always grown extremely powerful in short amount of time. Whereas Goku and Vegeta are always training, Gohan surpassed them both once as a kid by simply training a year with his father. Then he surpassed Vegeta and reached the power level of a SSJ3 in a matter of hours, because some deity helped him manifest his hidden power. The fact is, if Toriyama wants to make him powerful again, he can; and it wouldn't be incoherent with the way the character has always been.
>>136254124 Ultimate Gohan didn't even stay to have all of his hidden power manifested. He left in a hurry to save everyone right in the middle of the training. The fact is, Gohan never peaked. And who knows whether if a half human can become God Saiyan or not, but if he can, then he'll be on par with Goku and Vegeta. I'm not saying it WILL happen. I'm not even saying it SHOULD happen. I'm just saying it COULD. And if it DOES happen, it wouldn't be something far fetched or ridiculous, it'd be consistent with him: he gets powerful, then doesn't train and becomes everyone's joke, but somehow he realizes that he has to step up and he catches on very quickly. That's the way he's always been, since he was a kid.
>>136254688 No, you fucking retard, it was explicitly stated. The Old Kai tells him that he wasn't finished, Gohan says "I don't care, screw you, I'm going home". If he stayed longer he would've become even more powerful, but since he knew he was already beyond Buu's power level, he hurried back to Earth.
>>136255000 I don't see how that matter, why would god power be use as an argument against Gohan? If Vegeta can achieve God power as well then the same can be said for Gohan. Not saying Gohan will be stronger than Goku since he's the MC but if Toriyama want to give Gohan a power boost than he easily can.
>>136255222 >I don't see how that matter, why would god power be use as an argument against Gohan? He's not training with Goku,Vegeta and Whis. He's training with Piccolo, God Ki doesn't factor into this.
>>136249948 For once I am with the shitposters. I don't believe shit until I see the champa saga in the anime. The manga is building the same conclusion with Gohan, so I doubt Gohan is going to be that important in U6 saga. Maybe in the next one. Vegeta said in the manga Gohan has the bigger potential, here in the anime he started to train, maybe (maybe) in the next saga. And if he get a power up it could be his Ultimate but with the god level of power. Now when is Toriyama going to bother doing shit with Goten and Trunks? We are less than four years appart from the epilogue and their love for fighting has increased.
>>136255490 You know what I fucking meant. The kids are 12 and 13 years old, they love fighting, but they are ignored by everyone. Goku isn't interested in training Goten, now Vegeta is busy with Goku, Whis and purple cat to mind Trunks.
Gohan never really got strong from training, nor did he invent any new kind method of fighting like Goku/Vegeta/Piccolo. He only trained to tap into his plot power. I thought that was all exhausted with his mystic training or whatever?
Anyway when are we going to see Piccolo or humans finally one-up saiyan faggots? I figured toriyama would take this opportunity to move past the whole concept of saiyans being the only capable fighters in his universe
>>136256643 Frieza's race and Saiyan hybrids work differently. Frieza can't get any stronger than his golden form, that's what Toriyama said. Saiyan hybrids have the potential to overcome Goku and Vegeta.
>>136256714 >Gohan was always weakshit compared to everyone else after training. I wonder why, maybe because he was a little kid who only started to train for the first time when he was four years. Or did you actually want him to overcome Frieza and his daddy?
>>136257096 Don't worry, Toriyama-sensei will pull something from his ass. Gohan will probably transform into a Super Human-Saiyan God hybrid and reveal that he actually has a fetus-in-fetu in his body which is where he got all his hidden power from, and that fetus turns super saiyan too.
You're getting it mixed up with when he got pissed, thinking Old Kai was just fucking with him, since all he was doing was holding his hands out while looking at nudie mags and manga. He tries to go Super Sayain but ends up realizing that what he was doing was working, so he sits back down.
Gohan was nerfed because of money-grubbing Jap niggers. He was already a veritable monster by the end of the Cell saga, and if he'd kept training up to and through the Buu saga, he'd have been more than ready to fight these new enemies.
Whoreiyama nuked him for shitty reasons. Gohan for President.
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