How is Aniplex able to continue doing business? They distribute anime at such ludicrous prices. Both parts of Fate Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works is more than $500 together.
It's working pretty well for them. Their marketshare increased in the past half decade, actually. Aniplex' late night marketshare is now bigger than its next five competitors combined.
17.8 + 8.3 + 7.6 + 7.6 + 5.2 = 46.5
23.9 > 46.5
I wonder how similar the market situation is in burgerland compared to nippon. The reason absurd priced BDs work there IIRC is that there's only a small population that buys them anyway, and their elasticity (the range of money they're willing to spend) allows for the high prices. Even if they lowered them, it wouldn't change the fact that not a lot of people buy and own their own copies.
Anime in the West nowadays lives and dies on the internet. Even if prices were more accessible, most people either stream/download their shows, watch them once or twice and are done with it.
There's more buyers in the west than you think.
But there's two key differences. Firstly, people in the west aren't used to these prices, and secondly the buyer density is not the same in America as it is in Japan.
That's why places like France are more interesting to Japan because even if they sell less disks total there, the customers are not spread out over so much space.
Theyr'e one of the few overseas distributors that includes English subs on their BDs, which is an incentive for me to buy when I drunkenly stumble onto Amazon JP
I bought both FZ boxes and the first UBW box so far. You can't stop me
For one, it's fucking Gundam.
For another, it's based on known source material.
Airing is not a magical thing to improve sales. It's just that people like to know what they spend money on. If they have no way to preview the content, they usually go with the most well-known brand (which is why advertising is so effective).
Sorry, I closed the tab. The results spreadsheet linked here:
2010-2015 Publisher sales:
Company Yen Count
Aniplex 45,259,826,955 95
Bandai Visual 15,656,858,200 39
King Records 9,904,533,409 52
Pony Canyon 9,005,637,500 47
Warner Brothers 7,370,255,000 20
Aniplex is 45 billion and #2 - #6 is 43 billion yen over the same period (#6 is TBS at 5.6b yen).
More or less, all their series above 5k average:
54,195 Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love Revolutions
33,775 Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love 2000%
25,644 Azumanga Daiou
23,497 Love Hina
22,591 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS
18,010 Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love 1000%
17,052 Mahou Sensei Negima!
14,992 D.C. ~Da Capo~
14,736 Hoozuki no Reitetsu
11,251 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha A's
10,513 Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru
10,108 Fruits Basket
9,534 Yondemasu yo, Azazel-san.
8,925 Pani Poni Dash!
8,700 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G
8,033 Soukyuu no Fafner Exodus
8,005 Soukyuu no Fafner
7,690 D.C. S.S. ~Da Capo Second Season~
7,664 Yosuga no Sora
7,517 Mouretsu Pirates
7,481 Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei
7,338 Uchuu no Stellvia
7,195 Sister Princess
6,843 Denpa Onna to Seishun Otoko
6,437 Seitokai Yakuindomo
6,039 Kakumeiki Valvrave
5,944 Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou-sensei
5,380 Mawaru Penguindrum
5,279 kiss x sis
5,157 Minami-ke Okawari
5,132 Sister Princess Re Pure
5,040 Senki Zesshou Symphogear
5,029 Binzume Yousei
4,951 Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha
thanks for reminding me I watched every episode of that pile of garbage
Idolmaster is actually a Bandai/Aniplex collaboration, and Love Live and Kizumonogatari share the same American distributer (Azoland Pictures). The big two are pretty much tied to the hip already.
First, anime's isn't a big market. So, in order to keep going it has a charge higher prices, because otherwise making anime wouldn't be profitable.
Second, anime BD/DVD as others have pointed out come with extra goods, and Japanese people, especially anime otaku, love collecting stuff.
This model would, of course, never work in America since no one would pay for it, and your average American isn't nearly as interested in buying things for the collectables like the Japanese are.
One of the reasons R1 anime has tended to be a much cheaper product is that because the licensing companies are little poverty operations they haven't been able to release something comparable to Japan with sufficient collector appeal to get people to pay larger markups for it. Shitty extras, crappy packaging, etc.
I know Bandai Visual tried it a few years ago and ate shit (and at the time I was horrendously against it) but they were trying to sell absolute bullshit shows like Freedom and MS Igloo that way rather than Fate and Madoka. So if Aniplex can actually release something Japan quality the Japan business model may work, particularly since it's probably actually less work to do that than create a cheapshit US version with a dub.
By snatching up even more licenses that obsessive otaku feel they have to buy and price gouging for it same as always. They've practically got the modern anime audience completely wrapped around their fingers too at this point thinking they always produce the coolest shit that is just "worth it". Amazing marketing really, nobody else comes close.
>Girls Und Panzer
>Tiger and Bunny
>SAO Game Series
>DBZ Game Series
>Toys and shit for literally everything
>Deals with Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft
>Largest 3rd Party Video Game Publisher in Europe
Yeah they're good.
They also have the rights to the One Punch Man and Saint Seiya animes now. In fact I'm pretty sure they own part of the the rights to pretty every Tokusatsu series and pretty well any big franchise from before the 21st century at this point. They seem to have acquired them while people weren't looking or something.
Nippon Columbia is actually the main partner in idolm@ster, since even the games depend on the music they have all the rights to because the series started before Namco merged with Bandai and they bought Lantis to have their own music label.
Love Live doesn't have that problem but Bushiroad takes a huge chunk of it because of SIF.
Company is way too influential in the anime scene nowadays and it's really made things a lot shittier IMO. Can't have one company practically calling almost all the shots on the big licenses and deciding what gets popular and what doesn't like this, it makes it too easy for the producers to just game the market like Aniplex pretty much have at this point.
>How is Aniplex able to continue doing business?
because there's actually a HUGE American market for selling ~600 boxed blurays with swag?
>I found round trip tickets from Boston to Tokyo for $500. I could fucking fly to japan to watch it on Japanese TV instead of buying the BDs.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you're better off staying at home because Japanese TV broadcast is as compressed as Americans.
Official quality ranks:
Bluray >>>>> [horriblesubs] > BS11, BS-Japan, MBS, NTV > TV-TOKYO, ABC >>> Tokyo MX, AT-X
He's got a point, but he's not entirely right.
It's not that streaming makes people less likely to buy, or that piracy makes you less likely to buy.
I would also say that it's not modern fans that are less likely to buy. But with anime, most fans are young people, and the likelihood of somebody paying for anime (or music, games etc) depends largely on their age. (he got that bit right)
Unfortunately for the anime industry, most people stop watching anime before they become old enough to turn into real customers. That's why the Japanese anime industry is split into two parts. One part targets the few 30 year-olds who are still watching anime, and the other part has children as its demographic but targets the purses of their parents.
There were attempts to sell toys in the west, but I'm not aware of anything other than Pokemon ever being a real success.
Yes, but you're not fucking paying to watch it when you buy the BDs. This is a luxury item, not a movie ticket.
HorribleSubs' shit usually looks worse than any decent raw encode, though, and that's when it doesn't come from Funi.
fuck off xboxfaggot
also $30+ for an anime series is also too pricey. Been wanting to get the Blu ray of chobits (a show thats 13 years old) and I cant fucking find it for less than $33. That shit should be $24 MAX.
>5,380 Mawaru Penguindrum
Japan really does have shit taste
I don't regret the purchase itself. I think the manga's worth it. What I do regret is not doing a lot of research and thus probably having ended up with a higher price than necessary. While the loss of money is acceptable, it'll make me look like a moron in front of people like >>136246087 who'd want to know which manga it was.
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I'd definitely buy anime discs if the JP blurays had English subs in them and their prices were more accessible. Then again, I'm not from burgerland.
For instance, the Gatchaman Crowds BD Box was originally 18800 JPY. The new special price edition is 10000 JPY. It's pretty accessible. However, there's no English subs, so there's no point in buying it.
You don't need to buy every anime you like. Buy the shows you like the most, like 1 per year. That comes out at roughly 1 dollar per day for your hobby. That's not too much. Of course, in other hobbies, you get more for your buck (physically at least), and I would never tell anybody that this is the only right course of action. But if you want to build up a collection or even just support the people behind the anime, then it's the way to go.
I honestly don't like the idea of buying figures and other merchandise because they serve no purpose other than to clutter of shelf space. But then I'm a spartan pleb as far as decorations are concerned, so maybe I just don't get it.
>I honestly don't like the idea of buying figures and other merchandise because they serve no purpose other than to clutter of shelf space