- Illya was just decoy protagonist.
- It's not even magical girl show anymore.
- Everything until now was just cover up and result of actual plot.
Actual plot in nutshell:
>Einzberns never existed.
>Their role in creation of Grail Wars was replaced by different familly named Ainsworth
>This causes, that Grail Wars uses no incarnated servants but class cards that can install abilities of heroic spirits on masters.
>Also whole ritual doesn't work to create artificial own grail, but to utilize natural miracle taken from family named Sayutsuki.
>Like in main FSN, all Grail Wars until now ended in total failure. With fourth one resulting in total disaster which annihilated all Tohsakas and Ainsworths, Matous somehow survived.
>Only remaining descendant of Ainsworth usurped land and continue with ritual.
>Since Einzberns don't exist, Kiritsugu never participated in Grail War, thus travels around the world to find way how fill his wish. On his travels he saves Shirou from different disaster, and adopts him like in FSN.
>When they learn about existence of Sayutsukis, they travel into Fuyuki only finding city being destroyed by unknown darkness. Yet Shirou is able save last remaining child of Sayutsukis (Miyu).
>They take of her and Kiritsugu is planning to use her to save world, but dies to unknown illness, before he can.
>Shirou then raises Miyu as his little sister, but follows Kiritsugu's order to keep her inside house, and prepare himself on fact that one day will must use her to save world instead of Kiritsugu.
>After a few years Shirou lives normal life as high schooler, spending time with his cute imouto, beautiful kouhai Sakura, and best friend Julian.
>But one day Miyu uses her miracle powers and grant own wish to become Shirou's blood-related sister. On which Shirou abandons Kiritsugu's orders, fully accept Miyu as his sister and decides take her out of house.
>However once they leave house, Miyu is kidnaped by Julian who turns out to be Ainsworth and starts new Grail War.
>Shirou then must participate in Grail War, if he want save his little sister.
>Incarnated servants don't exist -> No Saber
>Tohsakas are all dead -> No Rin
>Einznerns don't exist -> No Illya
All this setting cheats and Sakura still loses.
No, just improved it into better Heaven's Feel.
How can such cheerful sincerely loving person turn into such broken caricature of love.
Hiroyama got a little too confident and decided to try his hand at being Nasu. He is not Nasu, and the best we can hope from this is a very lame retreading of a Heaven's Feel-ish scenario, only rendered completely toothless and solved once again by a friendship speech and Illya shooting a big beam at someone.
Berserker is a hell of a drug
If your ego is not strong enough, its noted that your ego can be swallowed up or completely fucked up by installing cards.
Miyu almost lost herself when she installed Gilgamesh
Also look what happened to Shinji
Pretty much this. And he's actually better than Nasu since he has a sense of humor, but the world didn't need another installment of grimdark Fate. Or maybe it did, I wonder what the volume sales look like for F/K 3rei.
>ecchishit yuribait manga
Well, it's full Heaven's Feel now.
He also clearly tries being Urobuchi.
God damn, this is some needless fanfiction shit. He should've either stuck with the simpler, original setting, and do a story about Illya and co. cleaning up the Holy grail in a world where the 4th didn't happen. Or went full yuri ecchii. Either one would be better than this.
Well, there is even hint, that current Ko-Gil is result of some master that was completely overwritten by Gilgamesh's ego.
Sure, but those at least give you some notion of what you're getting into right away, and then reveal their full backstories later on. This just takes a 180 turn all of a sudden because apparently the author wanted to switch up the story, it's so far off from what the initial premise was that it's not even funny.
Actually focus is on LINER part. Expect A-Rays and Aristoteles soon.
If you are some retarded underage fateshitter who enjoyed garbage like F/Z or FSN, yes.
>Shirou installs Gilgamesh
>opens the vault
>overload of weapons
>all those weapons to project
>Expect A-Rays and Aristoteles soon.
More like expect abso-fucking-lutely nothing soon. This is the author's one fucking trick: "Hey, remember that THING Nasu wrote about once? HERE IT IS! Now let's do nothing whatsoever with it and wait until I pull this shit again with something else."
I would love to see him install EMIYA, but damn this is a chance of having Shirou+Gilgamesh
MuvLuv's genre shift was masterfully done though. First the universe changed, but you still had the same harem antics. And only in Alternative did you slowly start being introduced to the super grimdark stuff in person.
This isn't even much of a genre shift, since the early Illya parts were also very shounen action-like. It's just that the whole story and focus on the cast has randomly switched
Why I have now feeling that overwritten master is Shinji.
Where is Illya now? Some gangrape prison? Already dead? She can't have nice things, can't she?
Yes, but who gives a shit? Who reads Prisma Illya for fucking Shirou?
3rei is fucking horrible and pretty much killed the series. Completely unnecessary edgy crap and nasushit fanservice.
Shirou pretty much took over all focus since he steped on scene. From that time Illya became more less irrelevant side character.
It's possible it'll never get animated. SL did original content at the end of 2wei.
Makes sense really. 3rei is just generic FSN crap. Why would they want to animate this shit?
reminds me of when Rozen Maiden began its slow march to the ending.
Fucking killing off Suiseiseki was just what it needed for the readers to give up not to mention the fact that the actual ending recycles Traumend's. Only this time, Shinku dies, while the rest of her sisters are alive.
It's the only reason to watch Illya.
Go be a tripfag somewhere else
A date was never announced, only the existence of 3rei anime.
Illya is love, Illya is love.
D-don't sexualize the loli, b-baka!
She's not even herself in this series, just a generic lolicon-pandering and randomly lesbian Nanoha clone. The author finally moving away from his shitty OCdonutsteels and focusing on the true heroine was the best thing that could happen to this series.
>focusing on the true heroine was the best thing that could happen to this series.
Well yes. We need more of imouto Miyu.
From Beast Lair:
>"Fate/kaleid liner is not Illya's story, but Miyu's. Illya is simply a bystander who was dragged into her mess, and is a point-of-view supporting character.
I think that this is pretty accurate option.
Alternate Shirou can marry Sakura (if he manages to save her) and remain with Miyu as her big brother. Family Time
Illya can fuck off with Kuro back to frying pan Shirou and keep dooming him to the harem dilemma
Alternate Shirou must and deserves to win
What I expect is gonna happen is Shirou dies during the final battle, magical girl group saves the day and the world, though. Miyu has no real reason to stay in that world without her onii-chan so she goes back to Ilyaverse and lives there for the rest of her life.
>Illya can fuck off with Kuro back to frying pan Shirou and keep dooming him to the harem dilemma
He is already doomed.
>randomly lesbian Nanoha clone
She would wish to have half the guts and personality that Nanoha has.
Also, Sakura isn't that much of a character right now, only Miyu and Shirou seem to be the protagonists since like 10 chapters ago.
It's fucking weird just how upset and crazy some people are about the shift to Shirou.
I can understand being upset sorta, but just not to this extent, jesus. It's a fucking comic book.
It has existed for years and focused on the little girls. Author is bored and wants to do something different.
Chill out or just stop reading.
Miyu is her sister. He fantasied about Sakura with wedding rings.
It's a different kind of love.
And Sakura is offering the Archer card against orders, she wants Miyu to be rescued as well.
There have been hints to Miyu's past being messed up and her brother existing for a long time. This is just a temporary flashblack to give us a concrete answer of what happened. It will soon go back to illya.
Remember that the first time shirou tried to fight, he lasted about 3 chapters and then was knocked out by Berserker Sakura.
It has always been a parody with magical girls about everything that has to do with Fate.
Shirou is a crucial part of the VN so he had to appear sooner or later fighting, he is taking the spotlight only because of that. He will become a side character again once the flashback ends.
If you think about it, the entirety of this manga was pretty much Fate and its 3 routes. Each major arc is a route an now we're in HF. Just now it's just blatant rather than being subtle. about it with magical girls covering over it.
His place as "just brother" in first series and zwei was good enough as cameo. I know there were some hints about other Shirou from the start but he shouldn't have gotten so much focus.
And overall and don't like how the series got darker in drei. There was some good balance earlier that now seems to be lost.
>He will become a side character again once the flashback ends.
Don't be so sure. He is basically non stop on focus since his arrival on battle. It's not just about this flashback.
>This arc is about Miyu, Shirou is just a supporting character for her.
No, he's pretty firmly the protagonist and the one you're supposed to root for in this arc. Miyu so far has just been a goal and an object to protect.
Angelica's Cage is up in the Mooncell, at its core, and no crimsom didn't destroy it.
Mooncell core is technically unrelated to Crimson Moon, but Mooncell is something of a TYPE as well really.
Angelica's Cage is a giant klien cube in the center of the Moon, that changes depending on the observer.
Angelica's Cage is like the all seeing eye of the Moon, that has observed all things, and can rewrite all things, or something.
Within it are the records of humanity.
However the eye of the Moon is nothing but neutral in itself, if you asked it to delete itself, it would. This is because the eye of god cannot have a will of its own, otherwise it'll become the brain of god, and decide the result for itself, since its the all powerful observer.
If it starts deciding the results for itself, then humans die.
Therefore, it developed AI's to do its thinking for it, so that it wouldn't decide the results for itself, and therefore could always remain neutral. So the AI's are the white blood cells, that do all the self-confirmation and independent thought of the Mooncell.
However if an AI ever went rouge, and developed self-consciousness in the full sense of the word, developed a soul, a heart, tried to use its power for itself, then there's almost no telling how big of a catastrophe it might end up.
Except that was already the plot of CCC
>Which is why most people liked Zero more
Zero is just a drop in the hat of the countless Fate spin offs there are. Its influence is minimal.
Don't let the fact that it was the first thing you watched influence you that much.
Sorry, but there is no Issei as well.
Julian took over his role, before went full evil.
because Hiroyama can't be Nasu and actually follow through on his climaxes.
Shirou vs Julian was built amazingly well and fell so flat. Hiroyama can't write non-Nanoha climaxes and it's a shame.
>There are people in this thread who truly believe the Secondary meme of people not liking stay night
This poll even had the zero recency bias going for it.
>you_gonna_get_befriended.jpg and magical beams.
Although I can't fault the last part since the solution to most things on Nasu's side could be solved by Excaliblasting things as well.
The problem mainly lies with Hiroyama trying to get the slightest bit complex with his plot points but then resolving them in the most generic and boring ways ever. It was fine pre-3rei since things weren't as serious but If he's going to try to step his game up and write a Type-Moon story then he needs to actually follow through with it and take risks instead of falling back and playing it safe.
>you_gonna_get_befriended.jpg and magical beams.
I think that's one of the best part of Nanoha actually.
But I see what you mean, he is trying to make things too dark and complicated for them to be resolved like that. I'm still gonna give him the benefit of the doubt until this arc is finished, maybe he can surprise me at the end.
One of the biggest themes in Nasuverse is that you can achieve a somewhat happy ending but be prepared to sacrifice something to get to that point. So far, Illya hasn't given up on anything so yeah I can see why it's Nanoha-like.
She most likely never will give up anything since the whole point of this series is that Hiroyama wanted a setting where Illya was happy.
3rei is honestly probably something he just wanted to do on a whim but didn't really plan things through fully.
It's because her affinity with Lancelot is far too good for her own good.
Both of them are devoted to people wholly too "pure." Lights that shine so bright it burns them and distorts their devotion into hatred.
>Which is why most people liked Zero more
Thanks for reminding me why I don't come to /a/
>story is about Sherow again
Fucking dropped. If I wanted to read about Shirou's Suicidal Adventures I'd read FSN. Why do this. Shit was actually good before they fell through the rabbit hole.
Yes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't fall flat as fuck. The fact that the characters are overpowered as fuck by design also makes them a terrible fit for Nasu-style plotlines.
Shirou's struggle is both personal and physical. "My body is made of swords" is both a metaphor for his mentality and literally what his fucking power is. Point is, every single one of his battles has a common element: he gets his shit fucked up, he bleeds like it's a Saint Seiya arc finale and he wins by the skin of his teeth. He's always the clear underdog.
Ilya's battles end by having her use her extraordinary innate magic capacity to channel the powers of her overpowered dimensional-molesting stick while occasionally borrowing powers from her make-me-Servant-tier-at-will magic cards to beamsplode the enemy into bits. It completely lacks the tension required to make a satisfying battle because we already know she's overpowered and we already know what this shit will boil down to at the end.
This worked when the series was a tongue-in-cheek Nanoha parody, but somewhere along the line Hiroyama got into his mind to make a serious story that the characters he had set up could not possible execute competently.
And that's why we have SHirou here, to suffer in her place.
He gets have Ilya be perfect and have her magical friendship bullshit, well also trying to tell a darker story.
It's a fucking huge swerve and probably won't pay off, but it should at least be slightly interesting for a bit.
Shirou sees her like a sister, and she sees herself as a sister. He loves Sakura romantically. End of the story pedofag. She won.
This may be hard for you to grasp, but Shirou loves Miyu platonically: she's his family. He loves Sakura romantically.
Miyu will be the flower girl in their wedding. Maybe maid of honor.
They just need to modify the character design a bit. They all look like a baby.
People shit on UBW destroying Takeuchi's design but SL did the same thing on Hiroyama's too.
I wish it stayed as a parody. Also Shirou shouldn't be able to use UBW at all since his origin is not sword. Unless by some reason he still got avalon inside his body.
This can't even be considered a HF parody since the whole point of HF was the relationship between what is ideal and what is reality and how much friction exists between the two.
You know very well none of that shit is gonna be present and Illya will save everyone.
There's Rin and Illya now and Shirou doesn't give a fuck about them. And also, Shirou in FSN denied his feelings for Sakura because she was Shinji's little sister and was going to break the bro code. Remove Shinji and he freely fantasies about her.
Saber and Rin had absolutely no chance if Shinji was taken out of the picture because Shirou would have given Sakura special attention before the Grail War which was what happened here. Rin was just some distant idol/fap material and Saber didn't exist.
>There's Rin and Illya now and Shirou doesn't give a fuck about them
Wow, he doesn't particularly care about two people he just met a few hours ago.
Goddamn you wormfags are stupid.
He's going through it because the two core ideas of prisma illya has always been illya being happy + random Nasu callbacks/references.
Take away all the Type-Moon shit that Nasu himself will probably never go into detail about aside from maybe random materials/Q&A's and think about what separates this series from any other Mahou Shoujo and there isn't much if any at all.
I used to think the same but then they moefied Bazzett.
She still somewhat works but there's really no reason for her to look like some generic high school moeblob instead of the grown muscle wizard she is.
And this is different from FSN Shirou how? Rin was a stranger, Saber he met for the grand total of a few days.
You're still avoiding the issue: the only real obstacle Sakura had romantically weren't Rin or Saber, but Shirou cockblocking himself because she was his friend's little sister.
>people hating on Miyuverse Sakura
Shit taste knows no bounds. She earned her victory. Rin's going to win fluffy Shirou.
Also you're deluded that Shirou is the MC, this is just a flashback. The series will be scheduled back to mahou shoujo lolis later.
My favorite character is EMIYA and I prefer Zero to FSN. What now?
It's like saying people prefer Frontier to the original Macross because they like Sheryl over Misa and Minmay. Jesus, you're retarded.
not him but Rin was always someone Shirou put on a pedestal and Saber is a person that just generally shakes Shirou down all the way to his core at first sight, romantic feelings or not.
>And this is different from FSN Shirou how? Rin was a stranger, Saber he met for the grand total of a few days.
Because they went through a series of trials and tribulations. They are literally at the point right now that's the equivalent of Rin sitting him down and explaining what the grail war is.
Like seriously, you're being ridiculous.
And it doesn't matter what actions led, or wouldn't lead to Sakura winning, since you're creating some sort of bullshit what if scenario that didn't happen. In one universe, Shirou fucks off to London and doesn't care much at all about Sakura.
You realize people could vote on the character's iterations right? If that many people preferred zero how come Saber (zero) is no where in sight and how Gilgamesh (zero) couldn't even hit 2500 votes?
Rin was his fap material and idol. She was never his girlfriend candidate. Even after UBW, their relationship feels kind of shallow and shakey.
Saber is indeed his ideal, but this Shirou abandoned his ideal BEFORE the Holy Grail War. He's HF Shirou, only for family rather than his love interest. The Shirou who WOULD murder the fuck of his ideal.
Shirou himself said he's loved SAKURA for years, he just denied it. He denied it because of Shinji, which allowed him to open out to other options. Rin is, in this scenario, a rebound.
You realize that people would always vote the option who will likely win, right? You're stupid. I voted for FSN Saber as third character but FZ Saber is my favorite.
You're stupid and in denial that FSN generated even half of the buzz in Japan as FZ did. As someone who traveled there, I can guaranteed it's deluded.
He loved her as family, like Taiga. That's why there's no trepidation about getting with Saber, or Rin.
Rin, in this scenario, is actually literally nothing, because she didn't exist in Miyu-Shirou's world. He doesn't know who the fuck she is.
Man I fucking swear, wormfags are the only ones who try and fluff up their girl into being the most "canon" of the bunch.
>Even after UBW, their relationship feels kind of shallow and shakey.
Shirou gets to live his dream while also getting a happily ever after with her.
>He loved her as family, like Taiga.
No, he saw her as a woman and he tried to deny his attraction. See the scene in the kitchen which is present in the common day 1. He thought he loved her as a family, but he always wanted her, he self-denied himself because it was 'wrong'.
Rin is nothing either in FSN. Just some idol from school.
Saber, on the other hand, is Shirou's soulmate I agree with this. But the Shirou who would choose his ideal. Rin is the forever rebound girl for a Shirou who can't never be with his ideal or the girl he can have a normal girl with. That's probably why UBW doesn't focus on romance, she's just secondary in the grand scheme of things.
I'm an Ilyafag who doesn't like her pairing with Shirou. Series Ilya, not the defanged magical girl dull version.
Right and I'm sure Guinevere and Lancelot also made Arturia happy as they said they would.
Posting a cap of Rin saying that isn't the same as showing it happened. You can pretend it did, I just pictured Shirou died and never saw Rin again, and she married some rich guy like the equivalent of Leo (who she wants to marry in a side manga).
It feels like 3rei is taking a long time to explain anything. Sure, we finally learned what caused Miyu to be who she is and why Julian was such a lunatic, but this whole flashback arc is slow.
>Rin was his fap material and idol. She was never his girlfriend candidate. Even after UBW, their relationship feels kind of shallow and shakey.
That's just weird Nasu Logic at work
Uro: It isn't a relationship fueled by instinct like the relationship between a man and a woman, but a romance of logic between two people who need each other from the heart. I think the Saber route could have been told as a story through the ancient Greek views on love. That's what makes Saber's story so refreshing, and why she's become such a popular character. On the other hand, I think the true heroine of Fate/stay night is Rin. In the Rin route, an equal relationship with a woman who's become stronger than men is depicted. Rin and Shirou mend each other's weaknesses with their own unique strengths, and I think it makes for a very nice relationship.
Nasu: It's true that Rin is different from Saber. Rin is written as a completely different gender. She also has a sort of pride in the fact that she's a beautiful girl. With a girl like that by his side, even an unsociable person like Shirou loses his presence of mind.
Basically Nasu wants Shirou x Rin to be less 'lovey-dovey' romance and more of a partnership sort of deal.
That's a scene specifically written by Nasu that tells you outright what their future is gonna be.
Do you think Rin's musings at the end of HF are wrong? Do Shirou and Sakura break up, and shit goes bad?
If you do, hey, that's your fanfiction, but we have the original author outright telling you as blatant as can be that they get a happily ever after.
Calling yourself an Ilyafag is just a bullshit way to try and deflect the fact that you're trying to start a waifu war for Sakura.
Rin is someone who Shirou was into before the start of the VN, and even saved his life right at the start of it. He remarks how he can never repay that debt.
What's more is that she's the one Archer puts his hopes into protecting Shirou from going down the path of being a CG.
It's also fucking funny how people like you downplay the romance in UBW. It's not the center stage of the narrative, but it's plenty there up until around day 12-13.
>That's a scene specifically written by Nasu that tells you outright what their future is gonna be.
No, it doesn't. I read his diary so you can't fool me with "B-But Nasu said." It's a scene he wrote with Rin assuring him to have hope.
>Do you think Rin's musings at the end of HF are wrong? Do Shirou and Sakura break up, and shit goes bad?
No, because the whole point of the route was for them to have a happy ending. Nonetheless, you're free to imagine it happens. It doesn't bother me. Nasu, in Sakura's case, did say something about changing the ending to make it happy.
While in UBW, the point was for Shirou to accept the consequences of his path and choose it anyway, paralleling hard with Saber. That Nasu included Garden of Avalon to reinforce the parallels between them (visually BROUGHT by ufotable too) should have been obvious that his future is bleak. He accepts it happily. That's why he can advance.
That doesn't sound like what Nasu wants. You're quoting what Butcher sees it and Butcher also says Rin isn't Shirou's equal in another interview, unlike Saber.
All that Nasu confirms is that Shirou faps to Rin. She's an attractive girl, but doesn't look like he even considers their relationship beyond physical attraction. Kind of like UBW VN.
>Trusting what the mushroom man says ever
>No, it doesn't. I read his diary so you can't fool me with "B-But Nasu said." It's a scene he wrote with Rin assuring him to have hope.
Nasu literally wrote that they get a happily ever after. You can't fucking bullshit this. Saying shit goes bad is your fanfiction.
>While in UBW, the point was for Shirou to accept the consequences of his path and choose it anyway, paralleling hard with Saber
The entire thing about Shirou, particularly UBW Shirou, is that he can do better than those before him. He can do better than Kerry, he can do better than Archer, he can do better than Saber in this case.
He can forge a happy future. If you want to think things go bad though, by all means, but don't force that narrative when it's not there.
>The entire thing about Shirou, particularly UBW Shirou, is that he can do better than those before him
The entire thing is that he's male young Arturia. He knows about his future and still goes to his path, accepting what will happen without a single ounce of regret. The divergence is that he won't become a Counter Guardian just like Arturia also rejected that.
They are meant to parallel each other.
Rin was meant to fill the role of the one who tried to give him a normal life and failed because he's too wrapped with his ideal: Guinevere and Lancelot rolled into one. You can imagine that "he had a happy life" but narratively, his happy ending isn't settling down with Rin, but fulfilling his ideal and dying with a smile without becoming trapped as a Counter Guardian. Rin is a sidenote here. She always was in UBW.
The point of UBW isn't his relationship with Rin, but his relationship with Archer. In the other routes, the point was his relationship with the heroine of turn. That's what makes UBW refreshing.
I trust the fact that I grew up in an Asian culture and know the importance of never implying or directly stating that I myself am superior to anyone else or anything due to how much bad business that is and how much face you lose.
This isn't even the first time Nasu has even said shit like that zero statement. He was gushing on about how Hiroyama should have saved his prisma Illya ideas and used it for his own original works instead of wasting them on his own characters/setting.
All Japanese and asian people in general have to keep up a humble appearance in public.
>The entire thing is that he's male young Arturia. He knows about his future and still goes to his path, accepting what will happen without a single ounce of regret
Yes, and that's what makes his character great. He can look down the road before him, and see that he might be filled with struggle, but still walk down it with his head held high.
But, here's the thing, his path isn't to be Archer, it's to go beyond him. It's to walk a path that goes further than those before him. This is specifically what Nasu wrote about with that scene of him stopping where Archer did, and continuing on.
>Rin was meant to fill the role of the one who tried to give him a normal life and failed because he's too wrapped with his ideal
And you don't even understand Rin's character. Look at the epilogue. She /knew/ he would resign from the Mages Association, and had no qualms with it. She doesn't want him to have a normal life, she wants him to follow his dream, and all the while helping as best she can with it.
He won't "settle down", but he has a loved one who cares about him, and will help him in his times of need. He's not in it alone, this is specifically what Archer talked about before he disappeared.
>That's what makes UBW refreshing.
Part of what makes UBW refreshing is that it's not the hero trying to understand and help the heroine, but the heroine trying to understand help the hero. Rin's the one who takes him on the date, for god's sake.
>With the 4th volume, “Fate/zero” can no longer be called a side story, but a story that truly connects with canon. Different though their forms of expression may be, if they can support and complement each other then “zero” is no longer 0, but could even surpass the fully-developed ‘1’.
>Let me say one more thing. “Fate/zero” occurred ten years before the PC game “Fate/stay night”, describing how a hero of justice began his march.
>This is a tale that had ‘justice’, this extremely preposterous ‘lip-service' word, as its main plotline. It was truly a tiresome and unrefined story, and Urobuchi Gen made a visual feast out of it.
>As a novel, Zero.
>As a visual novel, Stay Night.
Nasu's words and real perception.
That image was the VA explaining on behalf of Delight Works (nothing related to Nasu or Type Moon, so quit with your George Lucas comparison) about the Fate series, which also included Fate/Zero, Fate/Strange Fake, etc. Stop trying to pass as 'Asian' and as primary, because you obviously didn't even fucking read F/Z LN. You're a filthy secondary.
Who's going to even end up staying in this dimension after everything's over?
Miyu is obviously going back to Illya's dimension since that's what her character development dictates but will Shirou follow her? And will Julian and Sakura follow Shirou? Seems kind of a waste to save the world only to ditch it en masse afterwards.
>Her backstory is the same
I don't think they mentioned anything about her backstory in Prisma beside the fact that she works for the Mage Association, her not getting killed by Kirei already makes things different.
And yes I did read HA you fucking asshat.
Took a break from Drei after chapter 30 or that chapter when shota Shirou met Miyu but if it's heading to that direction time to fucking drop this. I liked it for being lighthearted version but you can't escape Type-Moons grip. Plus both world Shirous are the worst Shirous.
Prisma started in 2007, Extra was released before the Zero anime. I'll admit that there's been a surge in Fate related products, but it's ridiculous to think that it's all due to Zero. It's just been a steady climb over the years.
Good world building means that instead of writing 5 shit characters over 5 franchises, you write the original protag shit.
Then whatever went into world building improved the writers ability to write, and the 2nd protag in the 2nd franchise is carried by the better world building and writing ability.
And Fate is Nasus 3rd or 5th VN attempt depending on how you count.
I.E Tsukihime is carried by the fact Shiki is completely bonkers, which covers a lot of Nasus writing flaws.
FSN is carried by the fact it has a multi level plot, and the fact the Shaft anime wasn't awful from a hype standpoint.