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ITT: 10/10 antagonists.
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What anime ?
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>>136197370
The guy did nothing wrong
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>>136197370
Obligatory
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>>136197370
He was hilarious.
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>>136197370
I had a lot of fun watching this show.
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Best character of 2015.
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>>136197618
nice joke
more like a 0/10
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>>136197370
It's a shame s2 is such a steaming pile of shit.
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>>136197944
i fucking loved his progression... Maria was underhyped
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pretentious but enjoyable
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>>136198170
>Lady Gaga the Animation
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>>136198189
perfect death scene too
reminds me of frollo without a lusting for gypsy vag
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>>136198142
it's not a second season, it's just another series in the same franchise
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>>136198232
I honestly can't imagine a better character progression for anyone in recent anime as good as his, no retarded MUH BELIEFS and MUH ANGELS even when he was face to face with one, he thought for himself instead of being a mindless sheep, damn i need to get blu-ray maria
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>inbf griffith
he is no where near a 10/10. kill yourself
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10/10 antagonist
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>>136197856
The best
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>>136197944
I hated this cunt on day one.
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>>136197493
Garo
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>>136197856

He played the best cards he had and would have won, if it weren't for those damn meddling kids.
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Katze
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It pains me to tell you this, but pic related was a masterly written antagonist.
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>>136197944
Reminder that Galfa a Alfa, and he did nothing wrong.
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>>136198729
You can't beat what you can't see.
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Cutest Villain.
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>>136198793
She was fucking horrible.
She had the worst motivation in all of Symphogear, where the other two villain motives were "I want to fuck God" and "I want to be cool like Arnie"
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>>136198818
Can only agree, the dolls made the show for me, liked them more than the main cast.
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>>136198952
I as well.
Rest in peace Garie, Micha, and the two other sluts.
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>>136198952
>liked them more than the main cast.
Not hard after things like Hibiki's 13th character reset.
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>>136197370
He was pretty based.

But his design can't hold a candle to the blacksmith. Fucking shoulder furnace man. Let that sink in.
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>>136200776
>smithes a sword mid-battle
Fucking amazing.
And then his apprentice went on to make the Metal Garo.
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>>136201959
how can one character singlehandedly fix a series like he did.
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>>136198793

Very hype moment when she sings for the first time but other than that she was pretty bad I think.
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>>136197370
I fuckin love Medusa.
It is quite ironic that manga and anime both went to shit with her death.
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>>136202063
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>>136198642
Taken out by 10/10 hero. I have no complaint.
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>>136197370
REPENT, SINNERS
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>>136201691
>Skeletor
>An antagonist
Is this a bait or you just dumb?
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>>136202180
This, though Arachne was no slouch either, at least in the manga
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>>136197370
>>136200776
Did the new Garo anime improve their monster designs? I dropped it because a MOTW show without proper monsters is just trash.
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10/10 antagonist
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>>136203006
Not really. They're trying though.

There was one that uses soccer balls to attack and another that had a hammer that turned you small/large.
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>>136203085
No.
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>>136202063
By always having a smile on his face.
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>>136203287
Pretty much this. Whenever the antagonist loses, they have this "defeated face". This guy always smile, so even if he's actually already fucked up by protagonist, he still be the best.
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>>136203085
>all of that buildup
>still gets one punched
its a gag comic and it wasnt even funny. he was completely wasted
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>>136203271
Is that Nox?
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>>136203477
>still gets one punched
How about you try actually reading it before talking about it.
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>>136203271
>>136203553
Not anime, but he's the best villain by far.
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>>136197856
anime pleb here,

wheres this from? any gud?
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>>136198952
>>136199028
My niggas, they deserved better
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>>136204985
what is google?
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>>136204985
In the new world.

It's kinda shit desu senpai
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>>136197801
>>136197856
>>136197944
>>136198217
>>136198601

So far the only worthwhile entries.
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>>136198601
he was a great antagonist but just what was his motive?
To spread chaos so the other guy with the prosthetic legs(with the blue hair) doesn't get his way, or because he wanted to make things interesting for himself for the hell of it because living above ground was too boring?
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>>136198729
RULES OF NATURE!
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Literally worse than Bread Hitler
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>>136203553
>>136203271
I see him getting posted so much.
should I just watch Wakfu until his arc ends?
Is he just a tragic hero turned evil because circumstances demand it ? I like those
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>>136207072
It was just a prank bro.
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>>136198601
Great character, but he wasn't an antagonist.
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>Why did you do it?
>Dunno lol
10/10
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>>136202180
She was so good Okubo had to devise a way to kill her that would still benefit her in the end.
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>>136207072

He was dead in the surface world and so he wanted a spectacle to make him alive again.
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What do you like better, /a/? Villains that have complex motives that make you almost sympathize with them, or villains that are so rotten that they make you root for their demise?

Pic related, the best thing about WIXOSS was this little skank because everyone wanted her fucking dead.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyNAHxP_fbA

You know why I came here.
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He was easily the most casual villain.
No grand scheme, no revenge plot, he jyst wants to live a quiet life.
Not to mention best Stand.
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>>136207072
Passivity was on the surface. He came down to Lux to find that people were STILL being passive and wanted them to stand up and do something. Eventually, a revolution would occur and destroy the Class.
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was there a single bad antagonist in samflam?
were there any antagonists to begin with? not counting the umbrella thief
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>>136208310
I miss Samflam so fucking much
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>>136197370
Can't believe no one posted the OG.
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>>136207517
>>136207405
>>136198601

why did he kill the prostitute, it felt as though he genuinely cared for her, was it because she wasn't alive enough, to end her future suffering early on, sociopathy, or he would fine her a hindrance in his movement later on
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>>136208596
Probably both a mercy kill and because she didn't have the ability to do anything about her situation.
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>>136197618
Truly the best.
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>>136208566
he's entertaining and iconic in the Jojo universe but part 3 Dio is just some shitty villain hiding in some fancy mansion and send one person after the Joestar group
Part 1 Dio is miles better as an antagonist because he does so much more
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>>136208566
Dio should give Johnny back his pants.
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Hitler
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>>136208658
I guess you didn't read Stone Ocean.
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Nobody even comes close.
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>>136208752
not yet but if it makes Dio that much better as a character then I don't blame you for choosing part 3 Dio
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>>136208658
I keep seeing this argument and i can't stand it (get it) because it makes no sense.
Part 1 Dio was young, brash, just started doing his thing and had a very personal relationship with the protagonist so obviously he was gonna have more screentime.
Part 3 DIO, on the other hand, is a mature, experienced and seasoned Dio, who is also a completely different kind of villain for Jotaro.
In part 1, Dio was Jonathan's rival.
In part 3, DIO was the ancient evil that killed Jotaro's ancestors, he was fighting a very much uphill battle and wasn't in any way on equal footing with Dio (in regards to relations) like Jonathan was. In this case, it was a completely different journey, a journey to face his destiny and finish Jonathan's legacy. Part 3 DIO is a perfect final villain for the Dio/Joestar saga.
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>>136207129
His arc is the first season so if you decide to, just watch that.

The second season's antagonist isn't nearly as compelling, but if you're still interested in the world I'd recommend it. Sage for offtopic and /co/.
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Most fabulous villain in the series
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>>136208310
All of them I've had difficulty hating.

King Torture was best written though.
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>>136209109
>most fabulous character ever conceived
FTFY
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>>136202691
He was good before he became an angel-armadillo hybrid during the mock eclipse.
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>>136208949
Doesn't make him interesting
I understand your argument but for that same reason I prefer part 1 Dio since he still goes through more development.
Especially at the very end when he realizes the strong complex rivalry and affection he has towards Jonathan
Part 3 Dio also for that same reason is just less interesting, less room for growth. I'd compare part 3 Dio with fucking Kars >>136209109 when it comes to showing personality.
Kira, as far as I read, comes out as the best Jojo antagonist the same reason I liked Dio part 1, a lot of exposure and have dynamic personalities that show
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>>136209109
>>136209143
>Sex: Useless
>And he has the beauty of a greek sculpture
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He's pretty damn likeable at least.

But I can't decide whether he's 10/10, because half the time he's being badass and half the time he's getting BTFO.
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>>136209231
by dynamic personalities I meant that Kira and part 1 Dio are more expressive making them more likable
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>>136207440
I like both.
But overall, I prefer villains that most people think are actually heroes and saviours, lik epic related.
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>>136207446
To laugh at me?
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>>136197370
Su Won

He's an amazing antagonist because he was justified in every action he took and is making the world a better place. There's really no reason at all why Yona opposes him. If she really cared about her country she would leave it in his far more capable hands.
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>>136209318
>Ignore Griffithposters
>Hide Griffithposters
>Report Griffith posters
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>>136209231
Hmm, i understand your reasons.
Well, as anon pointed out>>136208752
in part 6 we get a good look at DIO when he's not killing Joestars and co. It becomes apparent that the entertaining insanity, bloodlust and arrogance he displays in part 3's finale was his ''combat mode'' personality, while in actuallity he was part 1 DIO with a shitton more experience and knowledge, all of his daddy issues and complexes resolved, and a very deep, philosophical personality. Shit, i'd go as far to say that he was very wise.
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>>136209318
>>136209455
I heard that Berserk is a series that has been going on for 50 years and will likely never be completed. Why the fuck does anyone care about it at this point?
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>>136209455
Hold your horses, nigger, I'm not a Griffith fanboy, but he does make for a great antagonist.
Seeing him get beaten up like that is so fucking satisfying
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Kira from Death note :D
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A real antagonist tricks you into thinking he isn't the antagonist.
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>>136209655
Kira was the protagonist. L was the antagonist.
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>>136209549
Please no one respond to this bait.
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>>136209655
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>136209655
I know you're baiting because he was the protagonist, but if you really applied yourself you would say Mello
I say Mello as a bait response because he was actually pretty good, arguably as interesting as L and a better foil to L as his methods were even more radical and unorthodox than L's but people would still shit on him because he isn't L.
Near is far too easy and obvious for bait since he is regarded as the worst by everyone
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>>136209549
Because it's good and we just got off the boat after seven long years.

>>136209561
Griffith did nothing wrong. Well, maybe the rape.
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>>136197801
>>136202894
>Sinbad
>Antagonist
You idiots. He literally just helped the MC this very chapter.
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>>136209827
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>>136209472
I'm really happy there is someone who understood Dio character.
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I like how him was trying so hard to be a good guy, but threw everything out of the window after lose his waifairy
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Keep on trying guys, I'm already ahead of all of you
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>>136209827
>7 years for one fucking chapter
I don't care how good the series is.
That author shouldn't be supported. He brings dishonor to his famiry.
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>>136209936
I said seven for getting off the boat, not seven years of hiatus retard. We get at least 5 chapters per year.
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>>136209897
The only thing 10/10 about Fairy Tail is the tits and ass. Everything else is dogshit-tier.
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>>136209923
not even an antagonist, he's a man of the people
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>>136209888
Well of course, he is my husbando after all


It's like the character was tailor made for me. Everything, his looks, his voice, the fact that he's a vampire (but one of the VERY few vampires who is absolutely not defined by the fact that he's a vampire, he's Dio first and foremost and even if he lost his vampirism he'd still be just as awesome), his powers, his fashion sense, the fact that despite his vast power and intellect he is still a very flawed individual and those flaws come to bite him in the ass, his ambition and willpower, and maybe most importantly, the fact that he literally rose from nothing (a poor orphan) and obtained godlike power, all of that forms the perfect character for my tastes.

The worst thing is, i want him to win, but i don't want it to be at the expense of Joestars (all of whom i also greatly admire), so i'm fucked no matter what happens. Also, no matter how much i love DIO, i never forgave him for Jonathan. Never.
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>>136210041
The only thing not 10/10 in FT is Wendy's screen time and fanservice being too short
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>>136209989
spoiler[why]
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>>136198729
>>136207087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C_Qh7NGwho
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>>136197801
>>136206964
Sinbad is not an antagonist, David is.
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>>136210204
Great taste, I find annoying how most people dismiss him as a generic villain. Did you read Over Heaven? Even if it isn't canon I really liked it, I think it portrays Dio very well.
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>>136209378
I need to read the manga.
Wasn't Yona's father really shit at being a king?
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>>136207511
Came here to post this.
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>>136210396
He was a horrible ruler who brought poverty and weakness to his kingdom. If Su Won didn't do what he did then their country would without a doubt have been invaded and destroyed.

Moreover Su Won goes from place to place solving all of the nations problems and making everyone happy. He's only the antagonist because he murdered Yona's father to take power.
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Is there a picture like this for heroes? If not what should be the tiers?
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How come no one posted him yet?
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>>136209378
The only good part of the anime right here.
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>>136210567
Because Homura was the antagonist, not him.
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>>136210567
Because it's a 10/10 thread
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>>136204985
da besuto
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>>136210358
Yea, a great villain isn't defined by edgy shit like
>muh sobstory
>muh complexity
>muh higher causes
A great villain is defined by
>his ability to entertain, intrigue or otherwise get the readers full attention
>threat level to the protagonists
>impact on the story
>validity of his goals and how those goals go with the character we were presented
And DIO fucking nailed all of those. It's the same reason why Frieza shits on most, if not all HST villains despite being a ''generic overlord/tyrant''.

Sorry to say i didn't like Over Heaven, particularly the stuff about DIO respecting his father more then he did his mother. In the manga, the only time we ever see Dio cry out of sadness is when his father makes him sell his mothers' dress. His mother was the only person he ever loved (and maybe still does), and one of the reasons he killed his father for is that.
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>>136210550
>Griffith
>Reluctant villains who only do evil things because of the situation they find themselves in
>Mfw there are people who actually believe this
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>>136210520
I don't think he was a bad king. But considering the most recent arc where Yona and company protect the small town from loser's rage, the author is clearly setting up a 'defense' for the Yona's father.

I haven't seen the raws, but I suspect soon enough we will have a flashback that shows us the reasons behind his extreme pacifism. Not sure it will be enough to justify his actions.
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>>136210527
this

Bari Bari, Kusha Kusha, Baki Baki, Gokun
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>>136210550
>causes are the only thing that determine how good is the villain
You are the cancer that's killing fiction. Frieza is a better villain then everyone in your post combined except maybe Griffith.
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>>136210567
He is right in what he says tho. He only is an antagonist from our point of view, not generally. Homura fills the roll of the antagonist.
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>>136210823
That depends on what level of fate decided the whole event anyway. If the idea of evil really chose Griffith to be a godhand it's out of his hands, but the raping of Casca was pretty unneeded.
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>>136211070
That's not the point senpai. He sacrificed an entire horde of people who looked up to him, respected him as their leader and genuinly admired him just so he could get more powerful. He's thoroughly rotten to the core.
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>>136210728
I think that part tries to say Dio forced himself to like his father to be shielded from the cruelty of the world (kek), he thought his mother was weak because he was too kind for her own good and he wasn't in the wrong. But he still loved her deeply, after all he chose the lullaby his mother used to sing him as the key to obtain heaven.
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>>136210917
Seconded.
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>>136211327
>he chose the lullaby his mother used to sing him as the key to obtain heaven
I think that's probably my favorite thing in a long time. Also very nice interpretation anon, i just might give it another go because of you.
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>>136211142
Not this shit again. Griffith always made pretty clear that his first and foremost priority was his dream, the band knew this very well and was ready to die for him. That being said Griffith was even nice to them because he's not the monster you make him out to be. He no choise but tosacrifice them. Anyone would have done the same in his place.
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>>136197370
How much CG is in the show. I immediately dropped the first episode of s1 because of CG but ive been tricked into watching shows with CG and if its mild Ive tolerated it.
Would you say theres more cg than antimagic academy
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>>136211513
> Anyone would have done the same in his place
This desu. Can anyone HONESTLY say that they wouldn't have done what he did in his situation?
Though, the fact that he was the one who got himself there in the first place remains.
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>>136198729
STANDING HERE
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>>136211513
>Griffith always made pretty clear that his first and foremost priority was his dream
That much is true.
>the band knew this very well and was ready to die for him
There is a difference between dying on the field of battle when you work towards a goal, and being sacrificed to a hoard of demons with no chance to survive, safe by sheer luck or based skull knight interference.
>That being said Griffith was even nice to them because he's not the monster you make him out to be.
Yes, anon, he is. He is quite literally a monster, in every sense of the word. He is in fact a king of monsters.
>He no choise but tosacrifice them.
He could have not lost his shit when Guts left the hawks and could have not fucked princess Charlotte and get tortured to near-death for it.
>Anyone would have done the same in his place
The Griffith Internet Defense Force is truly beyond sanity
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>>136208310
I think my favorite part of SamFlam was the end arc where everyone was posting outthere theories and trying to decide whether or not Masayoshi was crazy or not.
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>>136197370
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>>136211732
I REALIZE
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>>136211745
>being sacrificed to a hoard of demons with no chance to survive, safe by sheer luck or based skull knight interference
Don't forget being sentenced to hell afterwards. Anyone in Berserk who has any contact with demons gets a one-way ticket to hell.
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>>136211944
NANOMACHINES
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>>136212032
TRY UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS
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>>136203085
only good character in series
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>>136211745
>He could have not lost his shit when Guts left the hawks and could have not fucked princess Charlotte and get tortured to near-death for it
If anything the fact the he fucked up shows he has emotions. After shit happened he had no choise.

>There is a difference between dying on the field of battle when you work towards a goal, and being sacrificed to a hoard of demons with no chance to survive, safe by sheer luck or based skull knight interference.
They were mercenaries, they killed on daily basis for a living, there is no goal. The only reason they had yet to die was Griffith ability as a commander.

>The Griffith Internet Defense Force is truly beyond sanity
It's a matter of understanding the character, I don't excuse Griffith's actions but it's really easy to see why he acted that way. And we both know you would have done the same in his position.
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>>136212032
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>>136208948
Cell was hands down the best character from DBZ.
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>>136210550
>Reinhard
>Kaiki
>villains
Wolfram goes into shit tier by this picture, but I found him extremely amusing precisely because of how pure evil with classy mannerisms he was. The manga lost its spark with him gone.
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The hero mankind needed and deserved.
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>>136212202
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>>136211887
Nova is elder god tier, at eating flan.
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>>136212267
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I really liked this guy.
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>>136212298
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>>136212419
AT SOME CUSHY IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL
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>>136209217
Everyone was expecting him to be an apostle anyways, so it's not like the sudden transformation was jarring or unexpected. Frankly I'm glad he got more than just wings and fire breath going for him.
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>>136212195
>If anything the fact the he fucked up shows he has emotions.
No shit he does? Should have learned to control them instead of being a whiney, impulsive bitch then.
>After shit happened he had no choise.
Does that make his actions any less evil and despicable? He literally shat on all his comrades and condemned them to hell for utterly selfish reasons.
>They were mercenaries, they killed on daily basis for a living, there is no goal. The only reason they had yet to die was Griffith ability as a commander
Anon, all of those people were warriors at heart, and they flocked to Griffith because he was a great leader. As a merc, a great leader who is building, or has built, himself a great reputation means cash and relative security. They all arguably had their own goals; some of them did it for fame, some 'just' to earn a living, others because they wanted to be with Griffith while he was fulfilling his dream. None of those reasons compute with "they were ready to die for him anyway, might as well sacrifice them to demons and send their souls to hell". There was a selfish reason behind everyone that joined the hawks, that is just human nature, and you made it sound like they were willing to become his stepping stones, only to be discarded later, absolutely selflessly. That is simply wrong.
>It's a matter of understanding the character, I don't excuse Griffith's actions but it's really easy to see why he acted that way. And we both know you would have done the same in his position.
I understand his position and maybe I would have done the same, but that doesn't render him any less of an despicable asshole.
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>>136209217
No. He was pure evil even then. Being good and Evil is determined by deeds. He might have THOUGHT he was doing good for all those people he horribly tortured and executed, but that doesn't make his actions any less evil and wrong.
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>>136212685
>>136212596
I did not mean good in the moral sense of the word, I mean it as in a well-done antagonist. And this is just a matter of personal preference, but I didn't like his post-angel form. The angel form just seemed more in tune with his character, being a staunch and fanatic believer.
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>>136197856
Great villain stuck in a shit show.
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>>136212809
But it made perfect sense, because it was a perversion of an angel just like Mozgus is a perversion of a geniune good holy man. Anon, do you even symbolism?
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>>136212951
I surrender my point.
But I still prefer his angel form design-wise
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>>136197370
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Hated this delusional bitch so much, and she got almost scot-free for everything she did.
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>>136212435
Only good part of Book 3.
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>>136197370
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>>136210550
These tier lists are so retarded.
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>>136197370
Literally, worst than Hitler.
Open at your own risk.
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>>136210527
Only real answer
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>>136210550
>Reinhard
>Villan

He is merely antagonist and only from the alliance POV.
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>>136197370
Literal 10/10 antagonist here.
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>>136212435
Nigga was boring and never shut up about floating or whatever shit he achieved.

Amon was way more interesting even though he turned into a pussy the last episode.
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>>136210550
ANDOOOUUUU
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>>136197944
What was the deal with him ag-
>10 hours ago
Jesus
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>>136213542
She was the best thing about OreImo.
That revelation was amazing. You don't see characters as dedicated as her often.
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>>136211656
>Can anyone HONESTLY say that they wouldn't have done what he did in his situation?
i wouldn't if guts would have just coughed up the magic-fix-your-fucking-everything pixie dust and i got better instead of leaving my only option to kill everyone
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>>136197944
>I told Bernard to touch Michael
>He actually did it
>He's a madman
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>>136215244
>touch
He CHOKED a fucking Archangel.
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>>136197370
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>>136215275
I am an independent religious man, I don't need no Archangel tell me what to think.
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>>136212435
He was great, also right.
Book 3 and 1 were the best.
2 and 4 kinda sucked
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>>136215386
Vino was a totally normal human, right? Not an immortal, not a demon, none of that bullshit? A straight-up flesh-and-blood guy?
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Only during EP1-4.
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>>136198729
>>136210260
>>136207087

I want /v/ to leave
Also he's a shitty antagonist. The game should have ended after Jetstream Sam. He's like Solidus if Solidus was a whiny ugly bitch. He was also wrong while Solidus was right
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>>136215468
Don't underestimate a tightrope walker anon.
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Cute antagonist is cute.
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>>136210550
>God tier
>dude from Texchnolize
I loved him, complex guy and antagonist but he had no motives other than to entertain himself
that was the point of him, no main motive other than living the fullest by making a spectacle
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>>136198708
We all know that. Which is why he should have remained the main antagonist. Until they introduced a better main antagonist. Which was also replaced
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>>136210550
How you can tier villains in first place? The only thing matters is how do they achieve their goals.
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>>136203456
>no brackets on last line
why is it always the little things that probably don't mean anything that add so much
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>>136209842
>retard thinks antagonists never help out MC
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>>136197370
Dojyaaaan.
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>>136215595
ants are for stepping on
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>>136215530
>He was also wrong
Hello reddit.
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Best antagonist delivers the best fight in the franchise.
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>With this we can rule over the world!
>No, no, Baker-chan, that's troublesome and unnecessary.
>I just want to live a comfortable rich life.
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>>136215386
Nearly flawless, his only imperfection was falling in love with worst girl.
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>>136215468
>>136215386
Yeah, but he's not really a villan.

pic related is one of my favorites.
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>>136213675
Her & the USC were great antagonists, especially Hana. Though I really like Kate & the rest of the ASC.
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>>136209257
The series would have been better if the sides were switched and he was the protagonist as with every story written by Narita. Prove me wrong
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>>136215386
>>136215917
Could Vino have killed the monster?
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What makes a great villain /a/?
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>>136197370
moot
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>>136215993
I'm pretty damn sure YQ isn't Narita's work.
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>>136215917
>pic related is one of my favorites.
I concur. Hellsing Ultimate does many things right, and that Villain is one.
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The human king from Helck.
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>>136211627
Harassment isn't real if you ignore it

So we'll let those buildings fall and have season two stomp on season one's naive beliefs
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>>136215917
>>136217254
He's shit, literally the most overrated villain ever. He's to villains what Hellsing is to vampires and manga in general.
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>>136217707
>literally the most overrated villain ever
I would say that title belongs to the Joker.
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Hao from Shaman King was basically everything a villain needed to be in that series. He always remained calm and collected, much like Yoh, and he was not just a villain, but practically a force of nature. He constantly maintained full control of everything. Also he survived space lazers, not many people can say that for themselves.
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>>136215386
He's more of an anti-hero, but still a good pick.
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>>136215894
Kirei is an amazing villain. Shirou could also be a potential deep villain if Nasu didn't insist on him being a shouen power fantasy in all the routes.
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>>136215993
You're dumb. YQ is written by Suzuhito Yasuda. Yasuda just illustrates for Durarara!!, which is why you're a confused faggot right now.
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>>136215779
They don't when it doesn't benefit them in any way at all, moron.
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>>136218034
The only thing I recall was that someone tried to snuff him out by trapping him in a cube or smth only to suffocate themselves.

That and giant anime swords even by giant anime sword standards.

What else he do?
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Literally the second best goddamn character in the manga.
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>>136218251
The most overpowered villain in comparisson to his series in all of manga. He even beat Yujiro out. Speaking of which...
>>136197370
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>>136218714
Ken's the first?
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>>136198601
i really have a hard time seeing this guy as an antagonist. maybe that's what makes him so good.
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>>136218856
Why the fuck wouldn't he be? He's a goddamn goofy loser who manages to get by through sheer grit and anger until he finally develops into the scariest man in Korea, it's amazing.
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>>136218957
No, i was just asking, of course i agree with you 1000%.
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>>136197370
>His VA went on to voice the Chuuni Ashiya Douman in the next Garou.
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Goes from lame to top tier villain since after about 200 episode and up, past couple episodes made him 10/10
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>>136219115
How does a guy who can explode anyone into gibs based off of a query lose?
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>>136218251
I think that might have only been in the anime, I'm not sure. But I know in the manga it was space lasers. He also had some kind of ultimate offense/defense over soul on top of his immensely strong spirit power.
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>>136220663
Beheading Baboon!
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>>136210550
Reinhard is the protagonist, Yang Wenli is arguably the antagonist, but it is more accurate to say they can both be the protagonist depending on which point of view you prefer.
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>>136200776
Wasn't it in his stomach?
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>>136220901
The true antagonist is obviously newfags who don't know shit about it
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>>136198170
This. He's the best antagonist Bleach had to offer and is the apex of Kubos writing.
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This thread needs more FRESH
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>>136221168
Those are the final boss of any discussion, yes.
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>>136207511
Valentine was a better antagonist.
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>>136220081
He's very underrated.
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>>136203271
The best character in that show.
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>>136221782
There's not a single antagonist in that entire image.
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>>136221960

Good men with good intentions.
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>>136201959
>>136203456
The only thing worse than Kumagawa is Kumagawafags.
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>>136215894
Agreed Kirei is one of my favorites and HF just made him so likable. Plus his Daughter is best girl in HA.
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>>136222179
>heroes
>posts picture of a fuccboi who gets repeatedly owned by an autistic kid, and some woman who I can't even remember
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>>136207129
1st season has a great antagonist but the 2nd season has better character development.
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>>136210550
Antagonist ≠ Villain
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>>136222382
I think that there are us 3 or 4 Carenfags that end up meeting each other in every thread where Fate is mentioned
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>>136221782
Scirroco was the only villain in zeta (save haman) that actually worked, he was still inhuman as fuck but he was at least threatening.
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>>136222981
>Scirroco was the only villain
>scirocco
>villain

Fucking terrorists
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>>136197856
>villain
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>>136197801

Didn't everyone fucking call it years ago that he would end up in opposition to the main group?
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>>136222972
shit tier villain

only reason he had any power was familial connections, and as soon as his little band of simulator-trained soldiers went out into real combat they started dropped like flies

then the faggot digs up a superweapon and immediately loses it, dying in the process, and rendering a chunk of real estate on earth uninhabitable until the end of time

turn a is still the best gundam though
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>>136220663
HE
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>>136221276
Do you have the full page of this?

Also why is he so obsessed with Fresh?

I mean I know Medaka is all about a fuckton of abilities having names and shit, but I'm curious.
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>>136222382
>>136222830

She is literally the whore of Babylon.
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>>136215437
>kinda
Book 2 was fucking shit. The only good part were those episodes with Wan.
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>>136217571
I'm really curious as to what he is.
I'm hoping he's not some demon
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>>136223280
He was still fun though
he only lost because Loran a best
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>>136223346
That is not true
She may be a whore
But she is MY whore

Pic related: the true whore of Babylon
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>>136223441
She clearly stated that she fucked anyone who asked,
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>>136208948
Better than Frieza?
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>>136210550

Just power/evil may be cartooney evil but it's still a suitable motivator. Some people just want to fucking control everything for their own agenda.

I think the issue is how it's presented and executed. It really comes down to the characters charisma when being incredibly selfish and power hungry.
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Makoto Shishio is worth mentioning, the manga version at least.
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Emperor was a cool guy.
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>>136208948
this is perfect
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>>136223887
even dead Schwazwald is 100% based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVc_K8Syy2Q
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>>136220081
I wonder if Kaiji's gonna have a re-match with him.
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>>136208948
>sassy
>literally no motivation
>out-of-ass regeneration abilities
>no connection to any of the main characters
Cell might have been "cool", by no way he was a great villain. Frieza was easily the best DBZ villain.

>>136209217
I kind of agree. But not because he was a bad character then, or that his transformation was unnecesary. Rather just because of the way it was executed. It was shoenen tier compared to the rest of the arc.

>>136209318
>>136209455
There's a difference between being a Griffith apollogist and recognising how great of a villain he is. He is literally the antichrist of the story. Everybody sees him as a savior, and not without a good reason, too, but only so few know about the evil deeds he's done.

>>136211513
It was clear that his priority was his dream, but he never intended to let them just die. He had risked his life for Guts a couple of times, although he could have realised his dream without him. He even sold himself to the noble after the young boy with the knight toy died in battle, so that he could lower the number of casualities. If during the eclipse his body wasn't broken beyon any chance of recovering, he wouldn't have done it. He wasn't a monster, no matter how determined he seemed.
>>136212195
>i don't excuse Griffith's actions but it's really easy to see why he acted that way. And we both know you would have done the same in his position
THIS.
What he did was evil, and is inexcusable, but I can easily see why he'd do that, and can't say for sure I wouldn't have don't the same.
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>>136197856
>>136198632
>>136198663
>>136204985
>>136206451
>>136210660
>>136206964
>>136223096
Fuck off, Shit Suckass Yaoi faggots. That garbage is a travesty to the speculative science fiction genre. You only finished it because the boys started kissing boys and girls started kissing girls.
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>>136212951
>>136212809
>>136212685
Well, in the end Mozgus did nothing wrong and was right all along. Had they killed Guts and Caska, the demons would have gone away, thus all the people gathered there would be saved. Besides, his belief was harsh, but I can't halp but respect, or perhaps envy such a strong faith in anything, especially that he had genuinely good intentions.
Also, that part when his dead body kept the ghosts away from people was great.
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>>136214956
>magic-fix-your-fucking-everything pixie dust
It may stop bleeding almost instantly, but it won't give you back your tongue and all the muscles and tendrons that were cut from your body. He was far beyond any hope for recovery.

Perhaps I would have done the same if it was for all this "damning all the souls for eternal hell in the vortex of souls". or maye still would have done it. It ws evil either way
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>>136218714
Looks good. What manga?
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>>136224855
Sun-Ken Rock or "How I Got A Hot Cop Girlfriend By Punching Koreans"
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>>136224569
>4 years later
>fags are still this butthurt
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what a loveable goofball
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He enjoys Talking a Lot and Killing a Lot
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The fate/zero Gilgamesh...
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Classy...
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>>136223328
Here you go. About the whole FRESH thing though, Iihiko is a metaphor for the reader, AKA you.
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>>136211526
Ill assume from the lack of response that the show is CG heavy
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>>136223887
YOU MUST THINK
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He will fuck you up!
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Blade of the Immortal doesn't get nearly enough love
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Motherfuhrer took down a tank with a sword!
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>>136213542
Was about to post this.
She played the long con, and almost won.
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>>136225627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQ5KOLJcnk
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>>136213046
That first GOD BREATH was pretty damn good, I'll give you that.
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>>136218756
This guy did some fucked up shit but honestly, even though he isn't trenchcoat-and-scar tier like Gouda was, Yakushima actually got very very fucking close to taking down Section 9 completely.I would say he was a better villain, really. Gouda's scheme was much more grandiose but you don't really see realistic villains like Yakushima. And let's be honest, even if Gouda was the conductor, the really ridiculous bullshit that went down was more thanks to Kuze than anyone.
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>>136223397
>wearing panties
>still censored
>in a show where a kid gets his head clubbed off every episode
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>>136197856
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>>136225205
I wanted him to win. Was pretty edgy, but at least fun and seemed genuine.
but at least Isaac and Miria "won" so I was satisfied enough
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>>136226491
He was the good kind of edgy, had the charisma to pull it off.
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>>136223096
>antagonist = villain
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>>136226984
Bern did nothing wrong
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>>136226984
Erika is far more dynamic and interesting villain. She goes from overpowered bully to struggling evil underdog to an intimidating anti-villain.

Bern is just a cunt throwing a temper tantrum.
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>>136227717
>Bern is just a cunt throwing a temper tantrum.

Do you not remember her line about how she doesn't want to play the villain next time?
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>>136207440
I prefer villains who are just heroes of another story, and just happen to be going up against the protagonist as a coincidence or arc in their own story.
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>>136227834
I remember Erika discovering that Bern was just a coward running from her past and how she lost respect for her after that.
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>>136203456
Only ones I can truly agree with.
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>>136227834
That's a good line, but even without that there's a lot of little nuances. Remember that witches in general and Rika in particular is supposed to be the greatest actor. It's all really speculation, but what convinced me was Bern's character song lyrics. Bernkastel is a very mysterious, probably often misunderstood character.
>>136227924
Did you read the last secret teaparty? I don't know what you're talking about.
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>>136228195
There are definitely a lot more little nuances to suggest her true character than just that line, but that line is probably the most direct one to suggest shes not just pure evil.
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So GOAT he got an IRL funeral.
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Probably Kumagawa for me, but since he was already mentioned, I'd have to say most antagonists in Vagabond except for Kojirou. The Yoshioka's story was just heartwrenching. Isshun and Tsujikaze were pretty based too.
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>>136197370
Which GARO is better, the last anime series or the new one?
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>>136228195
I read it all friend, I don't know why you dismiss the entire series of dialogue because she declared wearily how she didn't like playing the role she was dealt. She did the things she did because she wanted to win, but Erika already deduced that her attempts to play these games to escape her boredom was all the result of her being a coward running away from her past (episode 5 when she was talking to Lambda when Battler was speared).
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His time with us was short, but he'll be in our hearts forever.
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>>136197370
I really enjoyed the first Garo than the current airing one. I hate how they went out of their way to insert " muh samurai culture " in a show about knights.
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>>136228642
Makai Senki.
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>>136228700
I'm not dismissing her actions, I'm saying there is enough for more to believe that she has deeper motives. Bern wanted to win no matter what you're right, but what did she want to win? Who did she have to defeat? The base reasoning is defeating the golden witch to fight boredom, right? I'm saying there are reasons beyond that. Reasons like reviving an old friend by starring in a play amusing enough to involve her, and helping Ange confront reality. Pure speculation on my part.

I know what you're talking about in regards to episode 5, when Bern regales her past. But I don't remember Erika ever disrespecting or doubting her. She remained loyal and in love until the very last scene of the end.
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>>136228642
I had a much fun ride with the last GARO anime series.

>European Middle Ages that fit the knight concept
>Each Horror story is actually decent written
>Based MC father
>Based prince
>Cucking the gold armor
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>>136229095
Nevermind it was in episode 6 right before the wedding. Basically it was when she came to her conclusion that Lambda and Bern were both less impressive than her because neither had faced off with hard undeniable truth, whereas she had. I need to reread this series at some point to refresh my memory.
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Its just so fun to watch a villain who is legit crazy who loses his shit and makes faces everytime he appears
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>>136230909
What are you talking about? He's a hero.
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True 10/10
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>>136230263
Huh, I didn't remember that line. I'm just trying to take "look for the heart" to the extreme, because I loved Rika and don't think Bern in umineko is as shallow as people think.

If you reread you might want to consider using the new sprites and voices. It's a strangely different experience, but not in a bad way.
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>>136207511
He actually would have gotten the quiet life he wanted if he just didn't murder people
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>>136215779

This. He even questioned himself why he would bail out the Kou for another year and not accrue interest on their debt as well.
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>>136227837
like Akame ga Kill?
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>>136228823
>muh samurai culture " in a show about knights.
The actual live action show takes place in Japan. There has to be a reason how the armor was passed down to there. Besides, that's the least of its crimes.
The bigger crime is that it's a shitty anime with budget issues and bland characters compared to the last anime
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10/10 in that you want to punch him in the face through the tv screen.

There are other more resourceful and cool badguys out there, but few of them are as easy to hate as this asshole.
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>>136224056
It's a shame how few people know of this masterpiece. It influenced me a lot when I was young, probably wouldn't be the same person if I hadn't read it when I did. its not perfect, of course, but what is? Generic fanservice titty physics?
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>>136228642
The newer one (Guren no Tsuki) is filled with QUALITY and poor directing save for a few episodes. Even the CGI got worse, the whole thing smells of a rush job.

Honoo no Kokuin is a solid action series, though. At first the angsty MC turned me off a bit, but he does get better after he hits his absolute rock bottom.
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>>136232861
If there's ever a good Nausicaa adaptation that covers the whole story of the manga in my lifetime, I can die without a single regret.
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>>136224132
watched that recently. pretty cool guy.
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>>136232980
Maybe it's just the nostalgia goggles, but it kinda reminds me of an epic poem. The transition of Nausicaä from a naive but pure-intentioned child to the Messiah was handling incredibly well. However, All the magic bullshit kind of invalidates it's argument about nature.

But I agree with you entirely. Itll probably never happen, but if I ever manage to finish a novel between classes I'll definitely reference it a lot. It's a huge inspiration to me, not just in terms of writing but in how I treat people and approach life.
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>>136223689
when?
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>>136225378
yes
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>>136218957
Eh, I thought the right hand man was more fun even though his progression was fucked up by the horrible fucking pacing of that series
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>>136224899
I genuinely thought he was going to kill that girl during his introduction.
One scary fuck.
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>>136215595
Pitou-chan kawaii!
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>>136233336
You mean Park? Honestly I haven't been reading since Ken and his GF got on the island, but I always assumed he'd turn out to be a villain or some shit, they really built up to it a lot.
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>>136225578
He was the best villain, not the best antagonist. I say this because Kagehisa was a hero
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>>136224501
>literally no motivation

I suppose making a martial art tournament to prove his superiority wasn't a motivation...

>out-of-ass regeneration

in what does that make him bad? It's not like he was immortal

>no connection to any of the main character

you realize he is LITERALLY made by other's DNA. And why does a bad guy should absolutly have any connection with the main character in the first place?
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>>136233706
>And why does a bad guy should absolutly have any connection with the main character in the first place?

1. Thats basic story telling and makes for a more interesting dynamic between the two characters?

2. Learn English
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>>136233581
Yea, it turned out he took over the organization to protect ken, because the japanese group was pretty clearly going to slaughter the rock group.
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The only genuinely creepy villain in the series. Loses points when he goes bishonen mode.
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>>136223689
the fuck did she say that?
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>>136215917
All I would like is a simple war
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>>136213542
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>>136232678
Shishio was a fucking beast. Relentless, vicious and narcisistic with his "weak only live to be prey for the strong" speech. He was literaly a facist. Loved him as a villain
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>when your antagonist is good enough to get his own spin-off
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/thread
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Show me another antagonist who runs 100% on the rage of getting NTR'd.
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Kojiro
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She did nothing wrong
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By far the best.
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>>136226313
Sex and love is bad mmmkay?
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>>136221347

Valentine was just a lesser Pucci. But he was in a better part, and he has AMERICA topical power.
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>>136212410

Neon Joe's Ultimate Form
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