Reminder that this will potentially be the best TM anime to date.

Sakura could and probably would go wrong. At least there'll be mapo tofu and beautiful animation.

>>136164596
>What could go wrong?
If they are planning to make only one fim plenty things can go wrong anon

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>Fate
>good

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>>136164596
Believing any Fate anime could ever approach pic related is some serious delusion

>>136165537
Very very true

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>>136164596
>this will potentially be the best TM anime to date.
It hardly beats Fate/Notes!

Fate is old and busted

>>136166001
I don't like the excessive milking either but if you think Strange Fake isn't superb there's something wrong with you

>>136164596
>What could go wrong?
cancelled

>implying we'll ever see it
It's going to be the new Kizu

>>136164596
>what could go wrong
Everything

>what could go wrong

1 movie

>>136165932
>If you're willing to kill one person for the sake of the greater good, then I'm willing to accept all he evil that comes with stopping you.
So wait, this Shirou is supposed to have abandoned his ideals right? Then why does he sound so much like a seigi no mikata

>>136164596
>What could go wrong?
Dont ever say this it can always get worse.

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Won't be able to beat knk5.

>>136165013
After the Deen UBW movie fiasco hopefully ufotable won't repeat history.

>>136165537
KnK5 was so bad I stopped midway

>>136164596
>What could go wrong?
One fucking movie

>>136165537
>>136166234
LN was better.

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>>136166234
my nigga

>mfw "I was here"

>>136166483
I prefer the ln finale but still overall think the movie is better, at least for 5.

>>136164596
>>136164596
>What could go wrong?
ufotable's production schedule for one. They've been fucking up as of late. After the last two episodes of UBW, I have faith though.

>>136166577
>ufotable's production schedule for one.
>movie
As you can see their ubw team is much more skilled now.

>>136164596
Indeed, what could possibly go wrong?
>inb4 ufo bankrupts and DEEN picks it up
>inb4 magic cherry blossoms
>inb4 90 minutes single movie
>inb4 we get another fucking UBW scene in some random fight

>>136166670
If it's several movies then the production schedule is a factor.

>>136164596
Worms anon, worms that will destroy a good mans dreams while complaining that her stepbrother's cock was somehow better. Worms ruin everything anon, we must never forget, and we must never forgive. Also worst version of best girl happens.

>>136168155
>Saberfags
Motherfucker what? HF is by far the best version of Rin.

>>136168263
But UBW Rin have the same quality

>>136169359
Not really, it's weird how she takes a backseat in UBW and is just a bystander to Archer/Shirou while it supposedly is the arc she's the heroine of. Also she's way less of a dick ie the best part of her character.

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>>136166172
Because killing hundred people will make you hero.

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>>136169359
>that moment when after-UBW Rin starts developing hollow eyes just like Sakura.

>>136165537

This is literally the only Type Moon thing I've seen that felt net good in the end

>>136168155
getting laid >>> faggotry dreams

>>136166064

It doesnt even seem to have a set direction or sense of purpose anymore. It just seems to exist so they can draw Saber and Rin clones and milk money off of fanboysm Theres more Fate shit now too than when it was supposed to be relevant back in 2005

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>>136165537

I cry everytime in this scene.

>>136166508

The climax of the movie is so fantastic, no a single flaw.

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>>136172079

>>136171926
>not a million
Step it up grail-kun

>>136164596
how can a whole VN squeezed into 2 hours be good?

>>136173086
where is this from?

>>136173592
Hollow Ataraxia I think

Has it been confirmed that Miura will be directing this? I really fucking hope they choose someone else

>>136164596
It's not like it has much to compete against.

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>>136164596
>wormslut shit potentially the best TM anime
>when Fate/Zero exists

>>136172195
>fucking a slut is better than realizing your dream
>being so desperate, getting laid by any means is your dream

>>136164596
Just because a piece of shit is better than a pile of crap doesn't mean either is praiseworthy or even the least bit good.

Do you think they will keep the sex scenes this time since it's a movie? Kara no Kyoukai had the rape scene after all.

>>136174230
Fate/zero isn't even close to knk in quality

>>136174575
It's not a question of keeping the sex scenes. They simply don't exist in Realta Nua, which is what Ufotable are adapting.

I disliked all the adaptions, because there's no break from the action, always something happening.

Is it so hard to include some of the SoL elements?

>>136164596

>Reminder that this will potentially be the most shitposted TM anime to date.
Fixed.

>>136175194
Does Shinji still rape Sakura in Realta Nua? I can't remember if it was still implied, or if he was just bullying her in that version

>>136174532
ayy lmao

>>136175620
No, he beats her up.

>>136174532
just because you're expressing your opinion doesn't mean you're not shitposting

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>>136175620
he calls her names[/spoilers]

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>>136175194
Wait, does that mean we'll get his scene animated?

>>136176375

I find it funny how there is every chance Rin had this exact fantasy in real life, given her attraction to big-breasted girls.

>>136176375
I would love to see this scene animated, but I have no faith in this movie.

>>136164596
It could be about the worst route in the VN- WHOOOPS

>>136178812
Even if you don't like HF, we can all agree its at least better than Fate.

>>136178898
Only really because Fate was loaded with infodump. Meanwhile HF went full Shokugeki No Sakura until the last 2 days or so where all the actual noteworthy events happened.

>>136178983
That's the thing. It's the last route in the game, where all the info is already dumped and it's supposed to be nothing but action and drama, and somehow HF has MORE infodump than Fate.

>>136173902
>He believed the Miura meme

>>136165932
>If you're willing to kill one person for the sake of the greater good, then I'm willing to accept all he evil that comes with stopping you.

Really, why people call this "bad"? Ok, it have flaws like everything but it's not bad at all.

>>136179128
I'm not even mad about UBW, I'm mad that he fucked up Oblivion Recording so badly

>>136179128
No, really, his directing is absolute garbage.

>>136164596
>HF
>not getting cancelled for a GO anime

>>136179411
Fuck GO, I want Apocrypha animated

>>136179411
>>136179623
HA first

>>136179657
All the secondaries would just complain about all the SoL

>>136179807
Fuck the secondaries, the SoL is the best part. Fuck knows I'm not watching it for manjew drama

>>136179623
Fuck Ataraxia, it was fanwank shit would not work as an anime.
Strange/Fake would be a better choice but if its Fate anything Acrophya would be the best choice for more normiebux

>>136179899
>>136179807
I would only be down if it was adapted with another season of Carnival Phantasm. Ataraxia by itself would not work.

>>136179949
F/SF is shit though

>>136179949
I don't think there's enough Strange Fake for an anime

>>136179275
It definitely was in KnK6, but he did OK with UBW.

>>136179242
Why do fans place all the faults of Oblivion Recording on Miura?

When people talk about the UBW movie, they don't moan on about Yuji Yamaguchi.

It's like they think the film making process isn't a massive collaborative effort.

>>136180263
All of the movies had the same writer and producers, more or less only the director was different each time. And 6 was the only one that sucked

>>136179411
Would a GO anime be made by A-1 since they made the opening?

>>136180428
But part of OR's problem is that they made some wonky choices in the writing department, and you just said they had pretty consistent writers.

So why does all the blame go onto him?

>>136180634
>pretty consistent writers
They were all written by the same guy. But it's not like the director isn't involved with the writing, they manage the project so they can still change things if they want to

>>136180934
>But it's not like the director isn't involved with the writing

Not inherently.

People shat on Prometheus, and acted like Ridley Scott had lost it, but the directing was fine in that movie- great even. It was just the shitty story. And you know who penned that? Damon Lindelof, the hack writer from Lost.

Movie making is not simple, and there are a lot of cogs in the machine. Unless you're George Lucas, and are literally directing, writing, and funding the damn thing, you're probably making compromises between other people.

>>136181106
I see what you mean, I just think it's a little suspicious that the same guy wrote all of them, but only the one Miura directed was bad

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>>136179949
Fuck you, HA is great

>>136181428
I heard once that Miura was chosen to direct after they decided the story changes but I never saw a citation so I don't know how true that is.

>>136181842
As a VN, sure. there is literally no purpose in re-using the same comedy scenes for a disjointed anime with a mediocre main story.

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>>136181893
>mediocre main story

>>136182097
It... really was though? The only good things about it were Bazett and Avenger's talks, and Caren later on. But all of that is pretty much dialogue, which gains little value from being animated. Lancer's past too, if you count that as main story, I guess that's the only part I'd like to have fully animated.

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>What could go wrong?
Gee

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>>136182184
>implying you don't want to see this shit animated

>>136182271
That's a bad example. Both those shots look fine. Different designs, but neither are particularly bad.

>>136164596
>What could go wrong?

>Only one movie.
>Butchered storyline.
>Butchered pacing.
>Rhino designs.
>Shirou's character misinterpretation.
>Butchering Kirei and Zouken's backstories.
>Filler scenes.
>Removing the cooking scenes (which is literally removing character development).
>Omitting the details HF added to Archer's story as a CG.
>Throwbacks to Fate/Zero with Sakura's and Illya's past.
>Making it seem that True Assassin is actually competent for the sake of flashy fights instead of clearly establishing that Saber and Lancer lost because of the Shadow and nothing more.
>Making the Shadow seem as it is actually Sakura by giving it her voice (I'm looking at your, RN).
>Bringing the retconned worms and rape back.
>Going with any ending other than the True one
>Not bringing Kalafina and Kaijura back for the OST
>Bringing Miura back
>No kisu between Shirou and Sakura
>Keeping the NTR dream where Shirou lusts for Tohsaka's anus
>etc.

>>136164596
When is this coming out?

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>>136182184
You're right and HA won't be animated. The next Fate animation after HF will either be Extra, Apocrypha, Fate route if Nasu is ready, or something GO related on a longshot.
>>136182350
The bottom looks horrendous. It doesn't even compare to the top. Call it style all you want but one looks deformed and the other looks glorious.

>>136182365
I bet you're a fun guy to hang out with.

>>136182184
>...
Don't.
And yes, very observant of you, the Bazett parts were the main story.
The argumant here was not how much sense it would make for them to adapt it, but whether the main story ob HA was like you said mediocre or not, otherwise I would have pointed out more than that part of your statement.

>>136182415
Cherrypicking.jpg

Also, Saber looks like a man in the first one.
They took the King Arthur shit too seriously.

>>136182415
In the Gil pic? What exactly is super wrong with that shot?

>>136182330
>literally a single shot of Ea
Are you serious? That whole scene is hype is fuck, but we see so little actual fighting that it's not that worth animating outside of the OP ufotable already did. It's basically just a bunch of "ultimate moves" being used in succession.

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>>136182350

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>>136182551
It just so happens that the triangle face looks like complete ass from the side. It doesn't look good from the front either. Rhinoface ruined the character for UBW.
>looks like a man
Not even a bad thing. She looks so much better with an actual nose.
>>136182566
It looks like ass where the nose is more akin to a horn than an actual nose.

>>136182745
I agree. Fate/Zero designs were objectively better in every way. Additionally, Suit Saber is GOAT.

>>136182365
>Only one movie.
>Butchered storyline.
>Butchered pacing.
>Butchering Kirei and Zouken's backstories.
Nice baseless pessimism there, buddy. Hope you're having fun with life.

>Filler scenes.
Why the fuck would you assume this? If anything, they'll be pressed for time.

>Removing the cooking scenes (which is literally removing character development).
>Omitting the details HF added to Archer's story as a CG.
This is the exact opposite of your last point.

>Throwbacks to Fate/Zero with Sakura's and Illya's past.
Kek. It's not a "throwback" if it's a direct chain of events. And more continuity is generally good.

>Making it seem that True Assassin is actually competent for the sake of flashy fights instead of clearly establishing that Saber and Lancer lost because of the Shadow and nothing more.
He is competent though? Despite being much weaker, he used strategy and wits to lure them to be slaughtered by the shadow.

>Making the Shadow seem as it is actually Sakura by giving it her voice (I'm looking at your, RN).
It's not like it was a big twist anyway, anon. It's supposed to be quite obvious from the get go.

>Bringing the retconned worms and rape back.
That would ideal, but unfortunately they might go with RN censor.

>Going with any ending other than the True one
0% possibility they would do that, all others are inconclusive in one way or another.

>Not bringing Kalafina and Kaijura back for the OST
They've been shit since KnK except for Madoka. Just accept it, that combination is old and busted.

>Bringing Miura back
He'd probably do an OK job, just nothing phenomenal. They might use different directors for each movie though.

>Keeping the NTR dream where Shirou lusts for Tohsaka's anus
NTR isn't just being sexually attracted to someone else, which is what that dream implies. Hell, he wasn't even in a relationship with Sakura at that point.

>>136182745
I don't think you've ever fucking seen a rhino, buddy.

I'll admit that some of the shots of the women looked weird at the time, but for the most part the males are fine. They're just more stylized. It comes down more to whether or not you have a big issue with stuff like side mouths.

>>136182473
Character interactions =/= main story. As far as the main plot goes, it wasn't very good, it only shined due to its good cast.

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>>136182943
They all look like shit. Complete shit compared to the designs of Zero. The males may have been less poorly than the females but that design is unequivocal garbage.
>stylized
Is that what you call it? Enjoy your life.

>>136182932
Waste of words. You didn't even understand the post.
Evey greentext line is a thing that could go wrong, moron.

>>136183078
Nigger it's anime, it's all stylization. You never fucking seen the approach UBW uses in other stuff? I've fucking seen video games with anime side mouths.

You can have a preference, but everything theey did with these designs was fully intentional.

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>>136182943
>>136182350
>people believe this unironically

>>136175194
I dunno, they were clearly having too much fun teasing the fuck out of everyone in episode 22 in Unlimited Blade Works. They might surprise us.

>>136183175
Not that guy, but some of the shit you mentioned that could "go wrong" is pretty opinion-based.

I mean I don't want Kaijura on the soundtrack. They've already established a guy with UBW. Keep it consistent.

>>136183175
I realize that. I just replied with why they either wouldn't happen, or wouldn't actually be wrong if they did happen.

Well, except for the first 4, which are possible and would be bad, but are just extremely unlikely.

>>136183240
Yeah, they're different designs. Bottom right is aping closer to how Takeuchi draws things now.

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>>136164596
Fate/zero is the best TM anime out there, i doubt that a heavens feel movie can top that...

>>136183306
That "different design" looks terrible.

>>136183277
I don't care for your opinion, unless you can predict the future.

>>136183346
Well that's your opinion. You're not really adding much else to the conversation.

>>136183263
Everything there is opinion based. judging right or wrong is completely subjective when it comes to entertainment.

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>>136183390
I don't give a shit. Anyone who tries to downplay how terrible that design looks by stating the obvious to me that it is just "stylized" or a "different design" is a moron, anyways. I know it's different, that doesn't mean it doesn't look like trash.

>>136183324
>Zerofag babby hasn't watched KnK

>>136183367
>states his own opinion as fact
>complains when someone calls out on how it's objectively wrong in many ways

How come HF only got a movie instead of a full two cour anime?

>>136183263
They used Fukasawa's music in the PV, so I'm going to assume they'll stick with him

>>136164596
is this shit even gonna air? there's no news about this

>>136183547
Censoring issues.

>>136180263
What are you even asking here? Oblivion Recording's faults are on Miura because it's poorly directed in the same ways that UfoUBW are. The choices of what to cut and what to focus on were shit in the same way UfoUBW's are. Unless you're telling me that it's a coincidence both of the bad Ufotable x Type-Moon adaptations were directed by him, there isn't much of a discussion to have.

>>136183547
It's probably going to be multiple movies, like KnK

>>136183525
>states his own opinion as fact
Are you retarded? opinion can't be fact. Go back to school, kid.

>objectively wrong
Subjectively wrong. You can't prove why I'm wrong.

>>136183495
I think you might have a problem with accepting that your taste in things isn't the absolute truth.

>>136183589
Except UBW was handled fine.

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I just want the Ilya scenes animated already. I couldn't care less about the VN as a whole.

>>136183589
But Zero wasn't directed by Miura and butchered the LN horribly.
The problem here is that we have too many secondaries that didn't read F/Z and can't see the glaring adaptation flaws that Ufo's rendition had.

>>136183753
The Zero adaptation wasn't nearly as bad as UBW or Oblivion Recording

>>136183830
UBW was better than Zero.

>>136183696

When did Shirou find out who her actual father was? I can't remember what scene that was.

>>136183514
I watched 5 movies and dropped it. I have also read the fsn vn, watched ubw, deen anime and the tsukihime anime. Fate/zero is better than all of them.

>>136183830
That's your opinion.
Zero's adaptation flaws were massive. They even left out cornerstone character development scenes and completely ruined the ending and its buildup. No matter how good a story is, it will always be a huge disappointment if the ending is bad.
Both the beginning and the ending are the most important parts of a narrative and Ufo completely ruined both, among many other things.

>>136183657
Except it wasn't, even DEEN handled their adaptation better. https://desustorage.org/a/thread/135587722/#135588231

>>136183753
Zero's missteps in adaptation are nowhere near as bad as UfoUBW's.

>>136183857
Hahahaha no...

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>>136183931
>the tsukihime anime

>>136183931
You dropped Kara no Kyokai, but you watched all of Tsukihime?

>>136183931
>I watched 5 movies and dropped it
>watched tsukihime anime and didn't read the VN
Kill yourself right now.

>>136183988
Yeah, I knew it was you. Put your fucking trip on.

>>136184003
Yeah, the entire thing was structured much better than Zero, which had an entire first season that built up to nothing.

>>136184019
I watched tsukihime first, back when i didnt drop stuff.

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>>136183988
>linking to a tripfag's post to explain your points
pls

>>136183988
>Zero's missteps in adaptation are nowhere near as bad as UfoUBW's
They ruined complete character arcs, the pacing, the perspective, and there's a massive slope in the adaptation's quality near the end.
You're just blinded by nostalgia googles or blurry memories of the LN (assuming you even read it).

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>He's in the thread
We can never have another Fate thread without the tripfag's autism again can we?

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>>136183988
>even DEEN handled their adaptation better
Oh, long time no see.
Please keep posting, it's a good chance for me to dump my Bait/Stay Mad pictures.

>>136184079
Ubw is like one of the worst anime i have ever seen. I have so many problems with this anime. Its solid 1/10 material. Only extremely bland and uninteresting fanservice for TM fans.

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>>136184226
>>136184248

>>136183857

Zero = HF > UBW > Fate

desu I never finished UBW because Shirou was too obnoxious.
I didn't find him that bad in the VN, outside of a few lines in the Fate route.

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>>136184226
>Like UfoUBW leaving out all of Shirou's inner monologue which reduces the entire route to nothing

I'm glad you admit you didn't watch the show. Pic related is just one of many monologues in the show that you just didn't pay attention to.

There's no fucking arguing with you though. You are quite possibly mentally unwell, since you were lying about the adaptation since before the release of the second season.

>>136184329
Blame Miura for dumbing down Shirou to generic shonen MC.

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>>136184226
Get a trip or get bait pics.

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>>136184316
UBW > HF > Zero > Fate

>>136184316
this right here

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>>136184355
I liked all the pottery.

>>136184316
HF > UBW VN > Zero anime > Fate VN > UBW anime > DEEN

>>136184226
Why are you on /a/? Serious question. Does MAL not offer the same level of excitement from being a negative celebrity?

>>136184355
>Pic related is just one of many monologues in the show that you just didn't pay attention to.
ITs widely known that they started barely including monologues around episode 17 because they realized how badly they fucked up. Too late at that point though.

>>136184442
Shirou had monologues as early as episode 1, the first he appeared in in a major role.

Your problem though is that you think unless they vocalizes every time he needs to take a shit, his motivations and actions are unclear.

>>136184316
HF > Zero = UBW > Fate
UBW anime > Zero anime

>>136184396
HF climax>UBW overall>HF overall>=Zero>HA>=Fate>Prisma>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DEEN shit.

>>136184438
This guy gets it

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>>136183857
Good one.

>>136184442
>ITs widely known
Read: I just made this up

>>136184438
>HF > UBW VN = Zero LN > Fate VN > UBW anime >=Zero anime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEEN

FTFY

>>136184536
The truth is always good.

>>136184494
>episode 1
Kek, tHey butchered the whole scene where he escapes to the shed from Lancer by not including his monologues to make him seem like dumb shonen MC surviving through sheer luck.

But guys, HF is actually kinda shit.

>>136184596
It's actually the best route because it was written for adults and not manchildren.

>>136184439
Wait, is this that CookingPriest guy? His posts are always so funny

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>>136184226
>all of Shirou's inner monologue
You mean like pic related?

>Rin's inner conflict
It was there if you weren't an idiot who watched it as a popcorn flick.

>Caster's backstory
That was actually expanded

>butchering Illya's
Expanded and improved.

>epilogue so bad Nasu had to explain how it was supposed to go
That was just the very last scene, overall the epilogue was really good.

Go away MAL, for fucking real this time.

>>136184561
Only to people who lack perspective on their taste and need to see an optometrist.

>>136184631
Yes, same trip.

>>136184625
It's actually a route about giving up your dreams for pussy though. That's not very adult.

>>136184625
It is written for manchildren who think blood and gore is maturity. The main conflict amounts to Shirou becoming a shounen power fantasy who beats shit up to save his SUFFERING waifu with no character.

UBW is written for adults.

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>>136184442
>they started barely including monologues around episode 17
Holy shit how desperate are you? they were there since ep 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU_uEdrrhXM

Yep, I know what direction this thread's going in. Imma go masturbate. Later niggers!

>>136184632
I don't know why people were so confused with that epilogue. I totally got what they were saying even before Nasu explained it. I think that just speaks about the audience that they need things beat over their head until they get it or made super obvious.

Fate/zero > carnival phantasm > deen anime > shit > ubw movie > ubw anime

>>136184687
Accepting responsibility and necessity, instead of clinging to misguided beliefs, is a very adult thing to do.

Society is full of compromises where we don't end up where we set out to be.

>>136184993
You intentionally made this image terrible didn't you

Ufo fucked up when they started copying the RWBY fighting style.
Fate/Zero was full of QUALITY and CGI fights but at least it was believable. UBW had servants doing shit superhuman jumps and pirouettes and punching holes in the ground left and right like DBZ.

>>136185089
UfoUBW is shit but servants being superhuman is completly true to canon

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>>136183931
I rarely say this but fucking kill yourself.

>>136185089
That's how it was in the VN

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>>136185089
>UBW had servants doing shit superhuman
Gosh really

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>>136184993
This is sloppy work.
Rule nº 1 of baiting: never waste more time and words than the guys you're hooking. Bait must be efficient, getting many (you)s, for as few words as possible.

>>136185151
Dont ever joke about suicide!

>>136184993
>tripfag
>tumblr
>autism
>shitty image quality
where do I even fucking start with you.

>>136185228
>unironically defending Miura shit

>>136185228
I don't think he's actually baiting, he's always like this

>>136185264
>muh Miura
You have an unhealthy obsession

>>136185264
That's better, but it still lacks the originality factor.

>>136184941
The beliefs aren't misguided. If you went through the story and didn't come to recognize that, you misunderstood a huge amount of the narrative.

UBW Shirou does make compromises, but he doesn't abandon his core ideals because he knows they're right.

>>136185297
You're either samefagging or a retard.
>pasta
>pic for ants
>tumblr
>DEEN giant swords
>caps
>etc.
Yeah, totally not bait.

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Reminder that Miura is the best director.

>>136185396
Most likely samefagging, there's a unhealthy obsession on /a/ to be a known shitposter.

>>136185395
They are misguided and shallow. Read some actual philosophy for once and not a VN.

>>136185554
Wanting to help others is not misguided. Unless you think volunteer work or being a firefighter is wrong.

Shirou knows he can't save everyone, but he will do his best to help the world in what he that he can.

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>>136185396
Have you seen the stuff he posts on MAL? I think he's just actually retarded

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>>136185675
>posting reddit
Fuck off and kill yourself.

>>136185720
>206161 posts

How many posts have you made over the years here, /a/?

>>136185720
Baiting and being retarded are not mutually exclusive. He is baiting, but he's a retard for not doing it efficiently and wasting his life for a few replies.

Do we have a release date/estimate yet?

>>136185720
You know seeking attention through being retarded is a thing right?

>>136185431
People who defend Miura are the reason we can't have nice things.

Ufo can shit out any creatively dead, CGI fest, blandly storyboarded, rhino face designs, dumbed down adaptation and this fanbase will eat it up.

See the average intellect of Miura apologists >>136185751

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>>136185867
Of course people defend a true artist who gave us the best anime of the season.

I mean if we don't, think about what lesser content we could end up getting due to shortsighted low testosterone middling IQ having individuals such as yourself complaining.

>>136178812
>>136178898
HF has the best emotional highs.
UBW is the best overall.
Fate has the best romance development.

Why the fuck are you guys still replying to some MALfag? Just report and hide.
>>136184766
Probably a good decision.

>>136185962
>Fate has the best romance development.
No it was pretty bad.

>>136186008
That doesn't disprove what I said.

>>136185985
>>136186008
All of the romance is bad

>>136185675
This is the difference between a "mature" edgelord MC like Kerry and a MC with actual depth to him like Shirou.
More than a decade after his creation, people are still writing essays about Shirou's philosophy and finding out new sides to his personality, while the most thought-provoking thing people have discovered about Kerry in years is that "Emiya Kiritsugu: genuine badass" copypasta.

>>136186059
Oops, meant to reply to >>136185962

>>136186067
Nasu should have made F/Z instead of Urobuchi.

>>136186027
HF could be said to have the better one though.

>>136186142
How

>>136186059
Implying teenage romance IRL is any different.
Meet a girl, find her attractive, circumstances have you being around her often, you flirt with her, fuck her, and start developing feelings for her.

>>136186150
The development was smoother, in Fate it took a 360 degree when they forced fucked which was stupid.

>>136186122
This desu. Urobuchi couldn't even come up with seven different servants on his own.
It was all downhill after Saya for the Butcher.

>>136186142
Fate and UBW could also be said to have the better one. This is just pure unadulterated opinion.

>>136186212
Most of the establishing of Shirou and Sakura's relationship happened off screen before the VN began.

>>136186332
Like with Rin.
And Saber fell in love with him in literally two weeks.

>>136186374
Read the VN

>>136186374
>Like with Rin.

Not really. Shirou and Rin didn't particularly start to get to know each other until the start of the war.

Sakura was regularly visiting his house for a year and a half before the start of the story, so you, the reader, didn't really get to see the start of their relationship.

>>136186332
Yes but it made more sense than King Arthur falling in love with a teenager just because he uses his body as shield.

>>136184316
Fate: 8/10. It's good when it gets going, but Shirou's rampant idiocy hampers the earlier parts of the route.

UBW: 10/10. A masterful examination of what being a hero really means, Gilgamesh is a well done villain who's threatening but still feels like a real person with a personality that contributes to his downfall rather than the heroes just hitting harder than he can. And even if he disappointed, Archer's tragic fallen hero plotline is compelling enough to make up for it.

HF: 6/10. This is a hard one for me. There's a lot going on in the periphery that is really interesting like Kirei, Illya, Rider, etc, but I just can't get invested in the route's driving premise, that Sakura needs to be saved no matter the cost, and Shirou feels too much like a shounen power fantasy.

>>136186474
this 2bh

>>136186474
10/10 post, mind if I copy it for later use?

>>136186471
>she can't fall in love with the first person to ever treat her like a human being because she's KING ARTHUR

my favorite secondary meme

>>136186474
>calls HF a shounen power fantasy when its the route where he discards his shounen hero fantasy
I love it

>>136186474
>X/10
I want MAL to leave.

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I actually enjoyed the romance in UBW more, it wasn't in your face so much and it didn't feel forced.

>>136186604
Choosing the life of the one you love over the world isn't exactly an unknown story device.

Choosing your beliefs over potential happiness I think might actually be a little less common.

If there's anything this thread taught me, it's that fatefags are generally too uptight to enjoy anime anymore.

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>>136165537
This.
Fuck Fate.

>>136186603
He didn't treat her like a human though, he ignored her pleas and just did whatever the fuck he wanted. Then for some reason after they fuck she gets all uguu for him.

>>136186409
>>136186452
Both Rin and Shirou had a crush on each other from before (Shirou outright says this, and Rin saw the high jump, nuff said), and they did know each other from school, at least on a superficial level.
Then UBW puts two people that like each other form before in the same house for two weeks, and they naturally fuck each other's brains out and develop a relationship, just like it would happen in real life with real teenagers.

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>>136186624
I like it too.

>>136186624
I didn't enjoy any of the romance in Fate.
Fate route felt too forced
UBW was more sidekick-ish
There was barely any romance in HF. There was the rain scene but other than that they were pretty much together from the start.

>>136186604
The hilarious thing is that he is right, HF is a white knight fantasy with shonen shit and powerlevels.

>>136186731
>UBW was more sidekick-ish
That's why I enjoyed it. Having romance as a main focus can get far too cheesy for me.

>>136186661
Type Moon is a very divided fan base.

You don't just have fags who like Tsukihime, or Fate, you have fags who like specific parts of those stories, rather than the entirety of them as a whole.

And then you cut it up even more by having other people like or hate the adaptations of those specific parts of those stories.

It's a bit of a mess.

>>136186738
The entire VN is steeped in power levels though. The worldbuilding is completely based on powerlevels.

>>136186604
>calls HF a shounen power fantasy when its the route where he discards his shounen hero fantasy
He discards it for an even more battle shounen-like fantasy.
"I want to protect my friend(s)/loved one(s)" is a way more common shounenshit premise than "I want to be a superhero and save literally everyone"

>>136186738
This

>MC has a sealed sacred arm power that allows him to beat up Berserker through sheer brute force while his imouto watches in awe
>destroys his mind and body trying to save his waifu but survives in the end (actual plot points in Naruto and Bleach)

HF is fucking overrated and doesn't compare to Fate/UBW, it's evident that it was rushed and Nasu had to force the True End to provide some closure

>>136186842
Shirou physically doesn't survive though. His soul was transferred.

>>136186842
I hope the movies will use the Good End even though that's very unlikely

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>>136187033
>not adapting the best scene in the VN

>>136186721
I HNNNGGGH every time.

>>136186842
Pretty much.
>>136186904
This doesn't really mean shit when he comes back with minor repercussions.

>>136186731
>they were pretty much together from the start
Yet Shirou dreams of fucking Tohsaka and giving her anal orgasms.
What an asshole.
Tohsaka's, not Shirou

>>136187166
>This doesn't really mean shit when he comes back with minor repercussions.
Not necessarily. Someone very dear to him died because of it.

>>136187130
That was heart breaking

>>136187196
She was bound to die anyways.

I don't really like HF, but the scene where Ilya reveals she's "the older siater" blows my fucking mind.

Such a shame that people who starts with Zero can't experience that feeling.

>>136187228
That doesn't change the emotional impact, which is the important point.

If they use the True End I hope they'll at least have a cameo of Touko making the puppet body

>>136187346
Well doesn't really change what it is. I should have made myself clearer but I meant repercussions on his body. Remember he goes the whole route destroying it for his waifu and to increase his powerlevel and in the end he comes out pretty much unscathed.

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>>136187376
But she's going to look like this again.

I don't want her KnK 1-7 perfection soiled further.

>>136187483
You are autistic.

>>136187593
>wanting good character designs is autistic

>>136187744
Making such a big deal about it when the designs aren't bad are.

>>136187483
Speaking of which, has there been any word on an adaptation of Garden of Oblivion at all?

Miura is the bane of TM's existence. Michael Bay/Zack Snyder of anime.

>>136187839
The noseless rhinoceros moeblob character designs Ufotable have adopted since Mirai Fukuin look like shit. Nobody is going to take HF remotely seriously if they don't drop them.

>>136187893
No Saber bucks = no adaptation.

Read Fate Stay night and watched Zero
what's next? is there an infoguide?

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>>136188035
Actually he's the Jim Cameron, i.e. Based.

Replace the Capeshitfags with Zerofags.

>>136188084
Read Hollow Ataraxia. It's a pseudo-sequel (it's complicated) that expands on the servants.

>>136188073
>Nobody is going to take HF remotely seriously
I am because I am not fucking autistic like you are. You see I watch more anime unlike you.

>>136188084
Read Zero, it's much better than the anime.

>>136188173
How so?

>>136188136
Genysis sucked and Cameron hasn't released a masterpiece in over a decade. Meme harder, anon.

>>136188146
>>136188173
k thanks.

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>still not scanned

>>136188258

And it never will be as long as you spam this shit.

>>136188258
Who cares, just fap to the VN sex scenes

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>>136188214
There are no memes here anon, only facts.

>>136184862
Not edgy enough.

>>136188213
He is probably mad Ryunosuke's human umbrella was not shown in the anime.
Well, I kinda am, but otherwise the anime is better.

>>136188258
>out of character garbage

>>136188136
Yeah. Both Miura and Cameron are hacks.

>>136188258
>Not mouth
What the fuck? Looks like shit.

>>136188258
>that anime tier shading
>that bloom to hide the lack of detail

>>136183324
This is bait, anons.

>>136188213
They removed lots of stuff, just like the UBW anime

Kiritsugu is a man that loves his burgers

>>136188464
They didn't go into a tirade about how Kerry really wanted to eat a fucking hamburger. It's unforgivable.

>>136188464
Yeah, you've been saying that for the whole thread. Name them, besides the obvious stuff like Lancelot and Gilgamesh flashbacks.

>>136186661
How's the view from up there?

>>136188213
The same way the VN is better than the UBW anime. It fleshes out the characters better, you get to know how their powers actually work and the explanation behind the details of the fights, you learn about their pasts and motivations, you get extra content that the anime didn't show or altered, and it hooks you up from the start with a solid narrative. It's overall more rich in content, more cohesive and way more entertaining IMO.

>>136188258
Why bother with this amateur shit? you should be complaining about Jin's latest doujin not being translated.

>>136188760
F/Z's narrative still works in the adaptation though. UfoUBW's is completely broken due to lack of characterization for Shirou and Caster.

>>136188868
Put your fucking trip back on.

>>136188543
I haven't said anything about that before now. But now that I think about it there really isn't that much missing. Nothing very important at least. They kinda fucked up the fight with Lancelot, but I guess it doesn't matter all that much. Also I really wanted to see Kirei's whirlwind punch, but that's a fairly small complaint

>>136188868
>F/Z's narrative still works in the adaptation though
Bitch, it doesn't even have the same PoV, has horrible pacing issues and ruined Saber, Waver, Gil, Lancelot and arguably Kerry and Kirei's development.
UBW ruining Shirou and Caster is your own headcanon, on the other hand.
Also, your trip is missing.

>>136188868
Caster had way more characterization than Lancelot had in the anime

>>136189030
Oh it's another Miura apologist who didn't understand the F/Z novel or adaptation

>>136189030
>ruined Saber
what, everything was about her
>Waver
It was there
>Gil
He's been in every fucking adaptation and VNs bohoo
>Lancelot
Agreed
>Kerry
The point was there
>Kirei
It was there, just condensed.

>>136189106
Put your trip back on

Because of /a/, Miura is one of the few anime directors that I not only know by name, but have intricate knowledge of their body of work.

I used to just have general info based off studios, but you guys educated me one step further. Thank f4m.

>>136189123
>everything was about her
Misinterpreted and butchered in her fight against Lancelot. Literally the only important part in her arc.

>It was there
Until they ruined his whole arc by making him cry like a bitch in the end.

>Kerry
Just the point is not enough when it comes to the character that is closest to being the MC of the story.

>It was there, just condensed.
>just condensed
That's the problem, especially during his fight with Kerry and after he is tainted by the grail.

>>136189101
Caster is a major antagonist with half of the plot centered around conflict with her. Lancelot is minor, the plot doesn't fall apart if you fail to get his characterization right (and I'd argue he was a bad character even in the novels).

>>136189123
I think they changed Waver's reaction to Rider's death.

Fate is ass. Fuck Fate. TM needs to have TurkeyHandle, Melty Blood or Notes adapted.

>>136189254
>Misinterpreted and butchered in her fight against Lancelot. Literally the only important part in her arc.
Yeah, but the message gets across enough times that she fucked up.
>Until they ruined his whole arc by making him cry like a bitch in the end.
I found it nice he was still an human, but I can see why you hate it.
>That's the problem, especially during his fight with Kerry and after he is tainted by the grail.
Yes, the ending was rushed.
It wasn't that bad.

>>136189265
What exactly was missing from Caster's characterization?

>>136166001
thats only because they didnt just do the 3 arcs from the visual novel. they stalled out after the 2nd arc

they were like idk i dont think people want to see the garden of sinners type shit in a fate anime and avoided the armagedboom saukra unleashes on every one when her life goes to shit arc

>>136189265
>Caster is a major antagonist
No, Archer and Gil are major antagonists. Caster is barely a mid boss.
And UBW actually expanded upon her past instead of not showing anything like they did with Lancelot.
Also, Caster's development, if she ever had one to begin with, doesn't overlap with any of the protagonists' like Lancelot does. He is a crucial part for developing Saber's tragedy in Zero. In their fight he plays the role of an incarnation of Sabers past mistakes that come back to haunt her.

>>136189265
The only Caster scene that wasn't in the anime was the sex scene with Kuzuki, which is completely understandable.
Everything else was there and with even more background about her role in the war.

>>136189389
All of it? They literally skipped her entire backstory for a filler episode about her master, which basically amounted to him being an asshole for 20 minutes.

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>>136189313
>Can't have any tsukihime adaptation before the remake comes out.
>Which means no Melty Blood adaptation nor new game.
>no long skirt
>Mahoyo wasn't a big success

End me. Also fuck Fate.

>>136189471
That's not true at all, all of her backstory was there, as far as I remember

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>>136189456
>UBW actually expanded upon her past instead of not showing anything
Actually, they "expanded" on something that needed no expanding (her master was shit) and didn't show the part that actually mattered (see the image).

>He is a crucial part for developing Saber's tragedy in Zero.
Caster is a crucial part of UBW's themes and EMIYA's tragedy. You should probably read the route.

>>136189467
>>136189554
http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20199/

>>136189379
>Yeah, but the message gets across enough times that she fucked up
It's not about delivering the message. It's a tragedy, you know the message from the get go. Tragedies are about the process, they ALL end with the MCs not being able to escape their destiny.

>I found it nice he was still an human
This is what is wrong. You are not supposed to reach a different interpretation of the character other than what the author allowed for in the source material.

>It wasn't that bad.
No, and neither was UBW. But they are both overall good adaptations but with some very clear flaws, yet one of them is being praised as a perfect one by secondaries because they didn't read the fucking LN.

>>136189554
The guy is talking about like, a couple of paragraphs detailing her past in the legend that weren't directly adapted by the anime. It was some minuscule stuff.

>>136189609
>This is what is wrong. You are not supposed to reach a different interpretation of the character other than what the author allowed for in the source material.
I prefer the anime version over the LN, personally
> yet one of them is being praised as a perfect one by secondaries because they didn't read the fucking LN.
Those are baiting
Everyone knows Zero is flawed and it shows at the ending stretch.

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>>136189607
Yeah, like a fucking two page scene briefly commenting on her life before the war. The stuff with Galliasta has actually made its way into the expanded TM narrative.

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>>136189615
>miniscule stuff
>scene that explains her entire mindset and the reason she puts on the front of an evil witch in the first place

Yeah no.

>>136189607
>http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20199/
You do know that whole scene except for the temple sex was in anime , right?
Of course, they don't tell you everything happening through Caster mind word by word, no adaptation would ever do that because for all those details is what the book/VN is for.

>>136189607
>they "expanded" on something that needed no expanding (her master was shit)
That's your opinion. Unfortunately, Nasu thinks otherwise.

>show the part that actually mattered (see the image)
You mean her legend, that everybody that's not culturally impaired knows?
It's like saying they didn't elaborate on Herc's character because they didn't show the twelve Labors or how Nessus and his wife fucked him over.

>Caster is a crucial part of UBW's themes and EMIYA's tragedy
How so? you're just making up connections that were never there in the VN. UBW is not even a tragedy, moron.

>>136189607
You can't seriously think the narrative of the whole anime is ruined just because they skipped that one scene, right?

>>136189741
Yeah, the "backstory" you're talking about amounts to less than 400 words in an 800K story.

That's not even a page in Microsoft Word.

Put your fucking trip on CookingPriest, you're embarrassing yourself.

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>>136189609
>No, and neither was UBW
kek

Keep shilling Miura shit, it's still a horrible adaptation while F/Z's is solid up until the final episodes.

>>136189843
Well, at least the picture is readable this time

>>136164596

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7UH3NZERnw

>>136189843
Ufotable Shirou is a retard, just like the VN version that goes to excruciating detail to explain why he's retarded
Oh wow shocking

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>>136189843
Please leave

>>136189944
Oh good, we can skip the adaptation now.

>>136189787

Caster's backstory doe snot even fit the description of "abridged". It literally is NOT THERE. None of her characterization nor parts that would make us care about.

>>136189796
You can't seriously think butchering a single character is UfoUBW's only problem, right?

>>136189944
Accurate as fuck

>>136189843
>F/Z's is solid up until the final episode
No, it's solid from the start of the second season to right before the climax.
The first season is a horribly paced mess and the ending ruins the whole experience.
Not to mention the gimicky Kalafina overuse, the crappy CGI, the QUALITY final fight and feast of kings, the non-superhuman servants, the gratuitous edginess, the boring color palette, and the distasteful forced comedy moments that ruin the mood completely.

>>136189944
That's pretty good.

>>136189944
That's the first movie in a nutshell.
10/10. Would skip until Dark Sakura shows up.

>>136190008
Again, you are ignoring that this "backstory" you're talking about amounts to a few paragraphs.

Seriously, copy and paste the scene that wasn't included and count the words.

It's nothing.

You are fucking autistic, brother. I don't know what else to say. I feel a little bad for you, even.

>>136189843
>Give me attention guys I am a lonely sad fuck
Stop posting.

>>136187399
>comes out pretty much unscathed
>Barely survived and has to get an entirely new puppet body
>Is back to square one when it comes to being able to use magic
>unscathed

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>>136189944
10/10