Forgot the "more underwater ruins" pic.
I don't think any time warping happened on any end. Time travel is clichéd and unlikely.
Here's our introduction to another race's king, who can empower his soldiers and command their obedience. Interestingly, he's also able to warp the appearance of another race without making them any stronger.
Absolute dogshit, only liked by the lowest of the low that can barely be considered humans.
10/10 would donate all my money to the author, true patrician work of art.
In other words, no.
Did Helck deserve that suffering, and I thought that his brother would turn evil at the end ..
The Toosu king is hungry for the thrill of combat. That matches what the Awakened elite have said about reveling in their strength, beyond the commands the king gave them. The cursed power seems to be addictive and seeks ways to grow further.
After some very brief gloating about the thrill of using his power, the Toosu King's awakening runs out of control. Sadly, another very familiar sight now.
Tokyo Ghoul is a good manga, the fanbase is just retarded
If Helck got an anime then the fanbase would become retarded and you'd probably start saying "it started off good but sucks now" because you're one of those hipster retards who feels a need to disassociate yourself from stupid fans on an anonymous imageboard
Here's another important one. With the Toosu King's death, the victims of his curse return to normal. That means Alicia and the rest of humanity might not be beyond saving! If the human king dies, they might also return to normal.
Helck is the one who has the most poison mist power in him
The more likely ending is that Helck saves everyone including Alicia but dies at the end and is deified as the ideal human, like Hercules
Only Helck is actually an ideal human while Hercules was a dick
I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if the Human King wasn't human after all. I mean, he was wearing a mask, and a thrown blade through the head did absolutely nothing to stop his words.
He's probably already awakened but maintains his sentience.
>Do I fit in yet guys?
Actually I do hope Helck gets an anime, because the fanbase will become bloated and insufferable and you and the rest of the "everything popular sucks" brigade will stop coming here.
He was a bigger dick because he got away with things others couldn't, even breaking religious laws set down by his father and getting off with a slap on the wrist because his dad said "oh well he's just rambunctious!" and didn't bother to punish him.
There's some interesting bits in the minotaur hero fight, like Helck nearly going berserk and trying to pull the Hero Killer sword on him. But this is the really interesting part.
The anger and bloodshed of the war released the seal on the Curse of Darkness that sleeps in the land. The rest is familiar now. But we should be asking, where did the Curse come from, who sealed it, and what goal does it seek?
Rereading the manga, I've noticed that whenever Anne actually smiles, she's also being manically evil like at the very beginning of the manga.
She should be maniacal more.
Hercules was not an ideal man because he was flawless and could do no wrong, he was an ideal man because he recognized his failings, genuinely cared about the people around him, felt true sorrow when he lost people important to him, and strove to atone for his sins even when he could have bitched out by pointing out that it was Hera's doing that drove him insane every time.
Hercules could always have just ignored the laws of mankind and refused to be punished like every other demigod. Nobody could have possibly stopped him. The reason he's such an incredible hero is because he accepted humanity's laws and fulfilled his every punishment and penance necessary to prove his desire to right his wrongs.
In this regard, Hercules is a more approachable ideal figure than images like Superman who literally commit no sins and never fail.
Last one, since I'm stopping at the start of Helck's flashback. Aside from some hints about Edil not giving the fights against Hydra his all, we should remember that someone or something is spying on Azudora here.
Incorrect, Heracles accepted mankind and the god's punishments for his sins, prostrated himself before Helios when he acted out of line by firing Hydra arrows at the sun, and in general was a pretty cool dude to hang around rather than a pretentious twat. Any hubris Heracles might have had was wrung out of him the moment Hera drove him insane and forced him to kill his own family. Contrast with a very similar hero, Theseus, who got big for his britches and tried to abduct Persephone from Tartarus, only to be fused to a stone and given the sentence of spending eternity there for his hubris. Heracles is the one who freed Theseus by begging Lord Hades to reduce Theseus's sentence when he came across him during his Twelfth Labor, a Labor in which Heracles courteously went to Hades and asked for permission to borrow Cerberus rather than just stealing the dog and incurring Hades' wrath.
Let's be honest.
The snow will get them wherever they go, she's already undergoing the Awakening so it's impossible to stop at this point, and there's basically no winning the awakening scenario no matter what.
It's kind of understandable. Especially after whatever they put her through to make her almost non-receptive before her execution.
I can't go on anymore. Im done.
Of fucking course that's her last request. I wasn't ready for this.
Its over everything is over
This is the end of volume 5.
Let me twist the knife before I step out.
The entire time, Helck has been trying to keep his smile to hold on to a promise
A promise from a person who would most likely not even remember who he is once she and everyone he knows become powerful enough to destroy anyone in their path.
HAHA LOOK EVERYONE. LOOK HOW DITZY AND AIR-HEADED HE IS. EVEN THOUGH HE'S STRONG HE'S SO HAPPY AND NAIVE. SO FAHNNY JOAK.
IT'S A GAG MANGA.
>On a reread it looks like Edil is trying not to cry bitch tears and not just strung out like I originally though
FUCK SHIT FUCK FUCK
Thank you rello
Now I must try to get some sleep
>yfw the author set this shit up from the beginning
>Tricked us with a light hearted gag manga parody of the overdone hero vs demonking trope
>IT WAS ALL A PACK OF CLEVER WHITE LIES MADE TO RAILROAD US INTO MISUNDERSTANDING
I never asked for this suffering. I just want to see Anne's cute face again.
>inb4 she's the next to suffer
They were turned into mindless monsters by the very plot they supported. I'd say that's getting what was coming to them. Helck killing them wouldn't even mean anything since they're now just more soldiers.
It's like looking back on the life of a person who killed themselves, only to see all the signs of it eventually happening and thinking "Why didn't I notice earlier?"
The worst part is, there is no way for Helck or his brother or anyone else to figure this plot out and stop it. By the time Helck realized the doctor and the king enacted the plan, it was already too late.
Fuck even reading the first few chapters, knowing the fact that the characters were like us, unaware of the reasons behind the disappearance of the humans, twists the knife.
First you think Helck did it or they evacuated, nope, they were forcibly transformed into winged angels, forced to serve forever.
King, beardy, and Mikaros the archmage. Plus beard's daughter. They're the only ones who (seem) like they still have wills of their own (without being controlled by the king, that is).
>First you think Helck did it or they evacuated
What. No. Not at all.
What confuses me are the drawings of the angels spy-chan found in some random human houses. Did some humans see people being transformed into angels, took the time to draw it, then transformed themselves at the end?
And the awakened are technically immortal in that they just respawn or something like that and never age, don't they? Killing that Monster King reverted the curse on other monsters, but in this case..
I imagine either that rolls back the curse and the control, or it wipes out all of humanity. But then if the awakened humanity is essentially under control of 4 people, that'd pretty much be a mercy killing if the latter happened.
I'm certain now Helck lost his faith in humanity even before they all awakened.
>Noble tries to claim the people threw the rocks at her and he wasn't responsible for her pain
>the people immediately blame the noble
>Helck knows both sides are at fault
Man, the majority of humanity are literally nothing but fearful idiots that believe everything told to them until they need to save their own necks.
The demons made a big deal about Helck being a wanted man. From the beginning it's apparent there was something off about the guy. My guess was that he somehow absorbed the strength of the entire human population and was secretly a sociopath that just put on an innocent face.
What I got was DEFCON 1 suffering.
Literally every page of this manga from the beginning has just been retconned into suffering
Thanks Rello, fuck the nobles and fuck the king.
>deconstruction of gag manga genre
Please I don't need this. Gintama already did this to me. I just wanted to have fun and laugh. Now that I'm fully invested and can't undo the straps on this ride. Someone let me off.
8 more chapters to catch up. Considering Rello has awakened, I'm guessing we'll catch up by Sunday or Monday, is it right?
Alicia explained she herself isn't that strong, it was her weapon that let her keep up with everyone else on her team. She doesn't have high hero compatibility. Like how her eye morphed while awakening she's more prone to its bad effects.
You think the worst is over but you don't know how much of her is left under that helmet.
We don't even know how the others handled their transformations. All things considered, her skin buldging, her eye fucking up and a wing growing from her back is a thousand times more graceful than the rest of the populace, and obviously none of the scarring of the skin veins and such are left on the awakened mercenary team now.
Theseus was Hercules' cousin and Hades' nephew
Also you the part where the Oracle refused to see him the second time so he broke into the temple at Delphi, stole the Oracle's divining tripod and ran out swearing he'd make his own Oracle forcing his brother Apollo to come down from mount Olympus to fistfight him to get his Oracle's divining tripod back, then Zeus came down from Olympus and made Apollo tell Hercules how he could do penance for killing his friend who was a houseguest (who was only there because Hercules had stolen his friend's father's horses because he was salty that his friend's father wouldn't let him marry his daughter due to Hercules having killed Megara) even though Hercules was clearly being a shit. Then even though Apollo sentenced Hercules to sell all his possessions and sell himself on the slave market to be a slave for three years, the lucky asshole gets bought up by a hot queen from Ionia who wanted to use him for lots of kinky sex, like where Hercules would dress up in her underwear and she'd wear his Nemean lion headdress and ram her from behind.
And then after all that when he was done with his penance he raised an army and burned down the houses of everyone who had crossed him and remarried.
Incorrect. The Greek concept of xenia necessitated that family and houseguests were to be treated well. Hercules broke this law created by his father twice.
We don't actually know if that's permanent. Apparently the awakening was super painful and horrifying even for those with high compatibility that came out sane on the other side. And Alicia was strong. She's even from a bloodline of a natural hero, and we've seen her post awakening and she was the only one that hesitated when Azudora mentioned that they were peaceful and used to be friends with humanity.
Jesus christ fuck off. I didn't post any reaction images, but you're the only one here who's fucking things up for anyone. No one cares or has ever cared you sperg. Just leave.
Anne-chan will be fine, her friends are all pretty strong.
I believe in the power of love, Helck will save her and set everyone free.
They might need to unite to fight a bigger threat.
Witch is not Vamirio, but they're probably related.
She's a witch, and "Helck" is a series that loves to play tropes straight--witches and prophecies are common to fiction.
From what we know from omake and such, it doesn't seem like Vamirio had parents, and instead Azudora played as a kind of surrogate. Considering stuff like familiar scents, feeling nostalgic for the island, etc, it probably means she was born on the island and eventually somehow found her way onto the continent/into the empire.
Witch's hair is curlier, on that note. It also seems to be an entirely different color.
Well, mainly I'm babbling because I don't want witch = Vamirio to become a widely accepted theory. Fuck time travel.
Asudora is currently the strongest non-Helck shown. Meaning he's definitely going to job eventually, and when that happens despair will hit the fan since Vamirio is tsun as fuck for him.
Maybe you should since your the one who has a problem with these threads. People are having fun and have been for a while. You showed up and are angry and sperging over how the threads have always been. you should leave in that case.
What a direction to take a gag manga. I don't know what to say.
In the previous thread the anon who was deconstructing earlier pages interpreted a page where Azudora is speaking about the possibility that humans+northern threat would equal the destruction of the empire and the creation of a new world
The anon interpreted it in the sense that New World Monsters would begin spreading outwards from the empire, since all the monsters outside of the empire seem to originate from within the empire and the barrier castles and cities are built specifically to keep those monsters in the empire while the imperial army works as a giant hunting mechanism to keep then numbers of monsters in check
The dragon emperor is probably a survivor of the magical apocalypse and founded the empire specifically to contain whatever the source of the poison mist is, which is also probably the thing which caused the magical apocalypse
The northern threat has failed to topple the empire, so whatever eldritch evil is trying to topple the empire and poison the entire world has manipulated humans over the centuries in order to use them as a second army to overrun the empire from the south
can't wait for porn of anne being tentacle raped while yelling "stupiid!"
I doubt it. Although Anne's friendship with Helck is developing, there isn't any sign of sexual tension at all, she won't get jealous. She might be happy to Helck happy with his companions, considering she heard all the tragedy he's been through.
So would the punchline be
that after falling for the tentacles and being raped, she vaporizes them all from the thought of being pregnant while crying out "I don't want to be pregnant! Stupid!".
>Alicia vs. Anne love triangle hijinks over Helck
>Helck is too pure to realize a damn thing and it's impossible to even force him into the usual harem protagonist situations
>All this time I though that Helck was just an annoying happy go lucky guy
>Always smiling like an idiot
>In every situation
Helck, I'm sorry, I didn't know your suffering, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
So someone else do think that there's an eldritch evil trying to topple to the Empire aswell. That theory sound quite possible, espically with what we see in the latest untranslated chapter.
>force him into the usual harem protagonist situations
>Helck just win in all situations; cooking contest, cleaning, romantic encounter, chocolate making
I want this.
In this kind of fictions usually, their dark feelings will be amplified by a million time after corruption.
Even Edil the one with the most compatibility judging by his handsome appearance couldn't win against the darkness. Alicia was already badly disfigured after awakening.
I'm the anon that was posting those pages.
A lot of stuff seems to be tied back to the Curse of Darkness, aka the Hero Awakening. The Empire seems to be special in that the Curse doesn't just empower stray individuals, but is actively blighting the land and spawning monsters and continually draining strength from anyone outside protective barriers.
From Azudora's comments and Vermirio's surprise at seeing its effects elsewhere, it might be that the Empire's primary reason for existing is to act as guardians that keep the Curse blight from spreading. If enough of their wards are destroyed then the entire planet will be consumed and it'll be terraformed into a New World.
This might have someone to do with the human conspirator's comments about turning the world back the way it's supposed to be. Maybe they mean "ruled by humans" or maybe they consider the Curse blight the natural state and want to deliberately unleash it. Maybe that's the "true peace" they keep going on about.
>The Empire seems to be special in that the Curse doesn't just empower stray individuals, but is actively blighting the land and spawning monsters and continually draining strength from anyone outside protective barriers.
Well, the curse hasn't really affected any demons. The crazy demons Cless and his party met were probably forcefully awakened by Mikaros.
The minotaur kingdom had the curse problem too, but their people managed to completely seal it. I don't think Vermirio are surprised to see it elsewhere (they didn't see it, did they? They were just surprised that the New World Organisms showed up elsewhere after hearing about it) because they're guardians, but because they thought the curse was limited to them/did not connect that with the phenomena of awakening before (with Vermirio probablymaking the connection after meeting multiple examples and getting Helck's backstory).
What happened to the tribesmen, the minotaurs, the humans; the curse appeared in different ways. The tribesmen were few and weak; we can probably assume the curse rose up to empower them recently in their history. The minotaurs had completely sealed their curse, but unleashed it again to use as a weapon. Then the humans had the curse periodically appear among individuals in their kingdom, the hero and the king. Lastly, the demons don't have anyone mutating from the curse, but their land is completely blighted. They're all probably dealing with the curse in different ways according to their culture.
>They're all probably dealing with the curse in different ways according to their culture.
That can't be the whole story. The Empire is a union of 15 different kingdoms. There had to be something that forced them to unite under the dragon emperor's leadership.
Seriously it's a huge surprise how competent this manga is put together. Seriously everything has been foreshadowed either in the character dialog and body language, and with a pace brisk enough to quickly reward those who notice the clues to the next plot point.
Basically what another anon said about watching videos of a guy who committed suicide. All the signs are there.
Also really do not want time travel. It's the one plot device used the most poorly and often times it'd be much easier to use any other device than time travel, considering how inconsistent it's applied in media.
Just stop, it's wasting images for rello's dump. People had talked about these stuffs to death before you even discovered these threads. At least check the archive before joining in discussion.
Dude, Rello's going to sleep for the day.
it's going to be at least half a day before he starts dumping again. The thread will probably die during the night in that time if there isn't discussion. Also, if image limit is hit, then a new thread will simply get made.
Little late to be butthurt when I finished hours ago. Also, are these threads hitting the image limit? No. Am I doing it in the middle of rello posting a new chapter? No. So why do you give a fuck if I spend a couple hours of my time doing it?
They're on-topic posts, which is better than a lot of Helck threads manage. And even if you personally have noticed every single thing I pointed out, a lot of other people haven't and it sparked some decent discussion. So either calm down or go find a forum hiring moderators, because in these parts we just point and laugh at people like you.
Whatever you want to tell yourself, what I want to remind you of is, posting images when someone else is supposed to do the dumping is always considered bad manner. Good thing I'm the only faggot got asspained by it in this thread.
Also did you check the archive or what. I didn't even try to berate you, it's good to see what people have been talking about before joining in the discussion yourself.
you are gonna get your bittersweet end of helck sacrificing himself to save the populace of the world and you will like it, perhaps via a reverse hero awakening and him having to maintain it for all eternity or some shit.
>Actually, the only bad move of the author up to now was not showing Anne's reaction to these sad parts.
Her incoming calm, slightly less frowned expression while saying "you've got it tough" would be fucking unnerving.
They'll kill the king expecting it to lift the curse, but I'll only make the angels go berserk, just like what happened to the minotaurs. And Helck will cry because the only thing left to do is kill off all of his human friends. Calling it.
yep consider it twisted
>be the cheeky elf companion of ancient human hero
>that hero then gets mind controlled by the king and is resurrected to be used as a weapon
>azudora has to kill the king and his friend to end his suffering
>also has to watch as over the centuries his friend's ideals of humans and demons working together for peace are torn down by a xenophobic and superstitious society ruled by evil nobles
>only way to stop the angels from berserking is to defeat the ultimate evil
>Helck travels deep into the depths of the underworld and pushes himself to 110%
>realizes that somehow his existence is sustaining the ultimate evil and has anne from management use the hero killer sword on him to defeat it
>the world and humanity is saved at the cost of Helck's life
>helck becomes warrior-jesus
There is no other end to this other than Helck's death. I am 100% sure this series will end with his death.
He has every single death flag for a character destined to sacrifice himself.
Forget it. It's this one anon (I really hope it's just the one) who doesn't know the difference between an image dump and a new chapter thread. He's been trying to play thread police all night. Ignore him.
Well as I said before the manga seems to draw influence from the myths of Hercules
And the Greeks believed that after his death Hercules was deified by his father and the Greeks considered his life to be more or less ideal
Helck is in pretty much all ways the ideal human in a world of assholes, so it isn't too farfetched that Helck dies but in death his example ensures humans will never become worthless fucktards again
>I am 100% sure this series will end with his death
77-san might pull a "Helck is a story that repeats itself" on us. Them ancient civilizations were most likely got fucked by the hero curse too. Helck's death would save the
continentin the mean time, but there will be no stopping ancient Eldritch horror where death dies itself etc... once and for all.
Have you read the same thread that we're in
Alternatively you put off your parallel goggles and read it for what it is without imposed expectations. Guaranteed to be good for your health.
If you look for it hard enough, anything is an analogy of another. Just stop with Helck and Cless being a pun on Hercules.
>We didn't get to see Helck pull out the bonses right out of his Noble Benefactor and the Mage's bodies and snap them like twigs just so they could see him doing it
There is no death too cruel for these people.
As far as we know, besides those already awakened, the Nobles got their just desserts. They thought they were going to lead a powerful army and in the end they got forcibly awakened too.
Now it's just the king, beardy and his daughter, and that mage bitch that devised this spell in the first place.
More like killing the king will end his resurrection magic, and everyone who had been revived will die for real. There will be just enough time for some last farewells with his friends.
That won't work. His emotions are swirling, he's probably more turbulent than the Eye of Terror. He is a genuinely nice person, but once things start to go out of control he will snap.
Shield bro circumstances were very different from Helck. Regardless of what happened shield still had one trauma that could be healed with just trust.
But Helck? How the fuck does one even get over this? He still trusts, he's still nice to his new comrades, but he has so much emotional baggage that I don't see any resolution to other than him killing the new awakened humans at any cost.
> Got accused of rape at the beginning
> Rejected by people in a single city
> Lost his family at a young age
> Bullied and forced to live on the streets throughout most of his youth
> Forced to watch his brother kill himself
> Betrayed by his own race
> Betrayed by the very people who saved the life of his younger brother
> Forced to watch a precious comrade become awakened while unable to do anything
> Ultimate goal now is to end humanity for the sake of his world's future
I don't know man.
I am going to bet that Alicia has a eye patch under her helmet, and the only reason she wears the is because her transformation isn't complete and she can disobey the king without the helmet, r-right?
I can't even begin to imagine Anne's reaction to this. I mean, I'm surprised that Helck even managed to storytime these last couple chapters to Anne IRL without descending into madness again, seeing that there hasn't been any interruption of this flashback.
Anne from management is a good listener.
This is Alicia's last memory, isn't it?
What she can remember will depend on her level of compatibility. If compatibility is "bad" she becomes one of those soulless awaken. Those who had high compatibility will still have their conscience.
>implying the humans have awakened as "heroes"
Yes. Raphael mentions that those forcefully awakened, with poor compatibility, will lose both their form and personality completely, and morph into generic muscled angel. Edil, Zell, and Alicia all seem to have had high compatibility.
These two look pretty happy, I bet they would make a great couple.
Take this out of context and it won't look so bad. Time to bait people in OPT onto the feels train
>implying helck won't be able to save them by slaying the false human king,
Not that anon, but nobody knows what may happen if the King is kill.
Hell, you saw what Cless did to him and he still was alive.
He's totally not human and the fact that he has something abominable about him, something eldritch, is more than enough to warrant that he ain't gonna go down easily.
my bet is the king is a sentient new world organism whos a high up from the north trying to crush all opposition south of them. he will probably be a retardedly high level and it will be a hell of a fight between him and helck.
anon i don't mean the awakening will be reversed, i mean him killing the king will free them from the mind control and sheer faggotry of them killing everything ever, humanity will still stay a pack of mutated freaks, just free.
I can think that if the King dies, the ones with high compatibility will live on while the others will simply disappear.
But seriously, neither I nor anyone here knows what will happen if the King's kill.
My thought also. That, or maybe he was once human and he did some scary deals with the new world organisms.
I wouldn't be so sure. Did you see what happened with the "awakening" of minotaur people? They went berserk. I wouldn't be surprised if humans went berserk after being freed of their mind control.
They are some eldritch shit I tell you.
Probably they are either some kind of mutants, dimensional abominations, or a mutation caused by eldritch shit coming out from somewhere.
There are sadly.
That's a good explanation. The only ones I'd see not going berserk are those with high compatibility.
Whenever I pick a random new book or comic I start reading from the middle to see if I would like it. Often I skip directly to the last chapter to see if there's any twist that makes the series worth reading. However if the series was recommended to me then I start reading from the start.
Considering the information thus far, how likely is that for human king not being human at all?
What would he do? Cast spells that won't work on a lv99 hero? He knows he can't beat Helck alone, so why bother? Besides, the plan was a success.
Rafaed doesn't want to fight Helck because he would lose and he doesn't want Helck to fight awakened beings in the middle of transformation because he would lose good soldiers. Rafaed knows that Helck has a neutral stance by default and only fights in self-defense. It's entirely in his interest if Helck leaves the area.
The king may have become a similar existence to what the minotaur hero was after his mind was overtaken by the curse. Unable to die and constantly regenerating until he gained his sense of self again and the curse dissipated (presumably him lowering his power, like how Helck does when he calmed down from his rages in the previous chapters).
Feels like we won't find out anytime soon.
Well shit, isn't it still better to let his awakened heroes do the work? He will eventually be a thorn on his side.
Maybe Rafaed already has a plan up his sleeves to get rid of Helck?
Well if the series has such weak writing that the summary is boring and the beginning is boring and even the middle is boring then I consider I'll probably never read it. I might as well check the last chapter out of curiosity before putting it back on the shelves or clicking on another link.
The Tooru Tribesmen who were tyrannizing the orcs were rather peaceful, however, even without a king to lead them. Keep in mind, though, that they were VERY weak. So maybe, so long as the foot soldiers DON'T become too strong like the minotaur soldiers presumably did during their war against the enemy country (since they went berserk after winning and having no enemy to fight against), they're able to retain some semblance to reason.
Good point, it sounds like an important artifact that the human/angel army should treasure in order to defeat Helck in the future. At least it should be kept by their strongest champion, unless Alicia is already that. It's doubtful since Edil appeared to be in charge at Urum Castle.
Yes they do. The fatass did.
He could be the actual King, casting the spell.
He was a Hero of some sort in the past, he probably came across the awakening spell in an expedition of his.
If I understand this right Spy-chan can only use telepathy with her sister when she's drinking tea? Just like the barrier guy with his beans? Demon powers are weird.
>because he would lose good soldiers
Well, you can't say that's the case. The moment they start to transform marks the point at which their minds and bodies are unable to handle the new power, but that does not necessarily mean that only after they have finished transforming that they've already "awakened". Awakening may instead start at the point they BEGIN gaining in power. See here
From the wording, the transformation happens AFTER the person has already been forcefully awakened. Like that, they're already under the king's ability to resurrect.
She has a better chance of stabbing Helck with hero killer than Mikaros or any other character (besides Cless, but he's not as reliable).
>Helck sees Alicia as an angel
>gets all emotion
Read again. It was all a ruse, the nobles mutated too.
Well the entire execution was bullshit, this was only done to draw in Helck to cause him suffering for what he did.
By the way it seems that you need to be over lvl90 to emit a power that makes Vermi-chan worried.
Remember that the demons from birth for hundreds of years now live under the constant threat of the poison and monsters.
By the way I don't believe in the the witch is a future Vermi theory as it relies on a paradox and in that case she could with her power simply have searched for the orphans in the human world and brought them to the empire or the island.
I think she is the mother of Anne-chan and probably was one of those emperor guards before.
Azudora might even be her father.
Vermi seems rather young for someone of her race, maybe teen stage for them.
Now what if her mother sacrificed herself when she was still really young to fend of a threat of new world monster and the humans were partly responsible because they attacked at the time and they needed to split forces back then.
The mother sacrificed herself to let the people and her husband and child escape.
Now everyone thought she died, but instead she somehow ended up on the island with temporary memory loss or needed really long to recover.
Meanwhile Vermi was raised by a men that lost his wife and was over doting of his daughter as she was the sole person he could throw his love at. Maybe the citizens helped somehow in raising her as he still had to fullfill his role as one of the four.
This could have gone to the point of being annoying for her.
This would basically explain her entire chracter and why Vermi seems to be the center of Azudora's world.
It explains why Vermi is distant to Azudora while still respecting his ability and how important hte citizzens are for him, it explains why she is so serious, why she distrust humans on general, why the citizens are so important to her and most of all why she would have been so willing to sacrifice... 1/2
Its kinda like OPT but with few chapters instead. Gives bigger picture if I like characters / style and the pace of story. A starting chapters are usually either baits or boring. And if story is interesting even in the middle, it is a huge + in my books.
you saw the crowd at the execution mutate and the fat guy who was directing it but you can't know if any of them was noble
its usually that plebe that goes there
Maybe it's a matter of time? Awakening could be something that is useful in the short term but which spirals out of control in the long term. The minotaur kingdom was at war for a long time but the Tooru tribe was only using Awakening recently, so maybe killing the source of corruption (the king) early enough can revert the people with no collateral damage, without creating people like the berserk minotaur knight. Helping the humans would become a race against time.
Godamn, I really think this author is really good at dropping all sorts of hints in the chapters that makes me want to know more and more. I get more questions than answers each new chapter.
Some people here also identified the broken blade of Alicia when referencing back to the first couple of chapters.
I don't think it's time so much as it is their growing strength (related to time, yes, but more related to their experience of fighting) that causes them to gradually become worse and worse. Hence the reason why Helck does not want the angels killed, perhaps?
I think the reason he didn't want to get them killed is because he knew by then that they'll get revived anyway. Capturing them instead of killing is the way to go, otherwise they'll grow stronger.
4 possible reasons:
Which makes the least sense in that he would've been the sacrifice and not Cless.
It has affected demons before, so also not likely.
Should make the most sense. Maybe even calling the archsage over to look at Cless was part of his plan all along.
You're talking like you know if the king ages, or if that thing is even alive. He gives that vibe like the Emperor in Warhammer 40k, maybe he is being powered by something like a golden throne.
Wasnt it said that rafaed was the strongest warrior before cless or something
So he either has a stupidly high compability and thus didnt change or he might have been the first testobject
You wouldn't sexualize the frown, would you /a/?
It was mentioned that Cless was able to be they key thanks to his super rare ability, not just being a hero.
There certainly have been multiple heroes in the last 1000years but cless is even rarer than that
It seems to be that each heroes have different abilities and Cless' ability has something to do with Awakening.
Which would make sense why they didn't try to capture Heclk to add to the pit.
So what happened to the pieces of Hero Killer? Cless broke it then threw one half to the King's face then used the other half to commit sudoku. The sudoku fragment is kept by Helck and the one that got stuck on the King's head was given to Alicia? and now both have a hilt?
But it seemed to me he was talking about the awakening itself. Nothing Cless does seems to be different or even as strong as what Helck can, including "drawing weird dangerous power".
> management girl's power is not actually first class at all and she needs to be mentally tensed and frowns all the time to use it
Read it again. What's stuck in the king's head was Cless' sword, not the hero killer. Cless broke HK in two, threw his sword against the king in order to avoid mind control and than became an hero with the upper half of hero killer. The hilt was probably left on the floor and was picked up either by Alicia or Mikaros. Currently Alicia is holding it.
> Rafaed not affected by the snow
He's no longer human/not even originally human. As if everyone didn't expect that.
> The king...
Is quite clearly not the mastermind, the ringleader or even just freedom. But a key together with Cless sounds important enough. He's also the angels' respawn point so I guess eliminate him would at least remove the whole resurrection cheat.
For something actually worth more discussions
> Why they use Cless and not Helck
What is Cless' role for them to keep him alive now that the mass awakening was already done
They probably chose Cless because:
1) Easier to control, their shenanigans don't work on Helck, he's too strong;
2) That special ability, if we assume it's not something all heroes have.
> Why they use Cless and not Helck
maybe that time when cless got sick he wasn't actually getting sick but it had to do with awakening. in that case they already had an excuse to look after cless, being their physician and all so there was no reason to switch to helck and arouse suspicion
Most likely they didn't know of Helck's power when they decided to stick with Cless.
But Helck was under Rafaed's nose the whole time and he even had his suspicion of Helck, if he wanted to he could easily confirm it. Why would he leave someone like Helck alone all that time? Along with all his interaction with Helck so far I bet he had something else in the store for our man.
I can totally see why Mikaros was so keen on removing Helck the moment he reaveled his hero power though. Some dude defied the fucking Geass is too dangerous to be left alone.
The author's way of portraying characters has been rather simple so far. Mikaros is "obviously" evil, but Rafaed's rather neutral, apologetic tone towards Helck may hint at him being more noble than his colleague, whose previous kind attitude was just a facade he threw away after he didn't need to pretend any longer.
Probably the same reason Helck can't be controlled or mutated. Having already awakened for too long makes him immune and unusable while Cless was at a stage that could be cultivated for their purposes.