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CONT >>136125145
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Where are there no thicker girls in this manga
Every female character thus far has been walking skeletor, even the pig orc princess
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>>136144398
>wanting gross whales in this glorious world
Please stop breathing.
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>>136144444
4s confirm, thickfags BTFO
If you want "healthy" girls you're out of luck with this manga
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>>136144398
I bet you're human
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>>136144398
>no thicker girls
Obvious bait is obvious.
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Forgot the "more underwater ruins" pic.

>>136144456
I don't think any time warping happened on any end. Time travel is clich├ęd and unlikely.
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>>136144492
Is this series the new Tokyo Ghoul of /a/?
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>>136144527
Here's our introduction to another race's king, who can empower his soldiers and command their obedience. Interestingly, he's also able to warp the appearance of another race without making them any stronger.
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>>136144528
>tokyo ghoul
Absolute dogshit, only liked by the lowest of the low that can barely be considered humans.
>helck
10/10 would donate all my money to the author, true patrician work of art.

In other words, no.
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>>136144605
I agree with you. It throwed Keit-Ai to third place.
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>>136144605
Did Helck deserve that suffering, and I thought that his brother would turn evil at the end ..
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>>136144571
The Toosu king is hungry for the thrill of combat. That matches what the Awakened elite have said about reveling in their strength, beyond the commands the king gave them. The cursed power seems to be addictive and seeks ways to grow further.
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>>136144398
here, take her and STFU
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>>136144605
Tokyo ghoul is a pretty good series. I love what I have seen of Helck so far, but I wouldnt really compare the two.
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Helck will revive his brother and use devil princess as replacement from his last love, quote me on this
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>>136144657
After some very brief gloating about the thrill of using his power, the Toosu King's awakening runs out of control. Sadly, another very familiar sight now.
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>>136144605
Tokyo Ghoul is a good manga, the fanbase is just retarded

If Helck got an anime then the fanbase would become retarded and you'd probably start saying "it started off good but sucks now" because you're one of those hipster retards who feels a need to disassociate yourself from stupid fans on an anonymous imageboard
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>>136144737
Here's another important one. With the Toosu King's death, the victims of his curse return to normal. That means Alicia and the rest of humanity might not be beyond saving! If the human king dies, they might also return to normal.
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>>136144709
>>136144783
Found the monkeys.
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>>136144807
The dead should stay dead my friend...
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>>136144807
>human king
You mean demon king right? WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
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>>136144840
Animal Graveyard arc after they kill the king?
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>>136144726
Helck is the one who has the most poison mist power in him

The more likely ending is that Helck saves everyone including Alicia but dies at the end and is deified as the ideal human, like Hercules

Only Helck is actually an ideal human while Hercules was a dick
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>>136144807
Toosu King died because the power depleted all of his life force.
All human will suffer the same fate when human king dies.
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>>136144861
I legitimately wouldn't be surprised if the Human King wasn't human after all. I mean, he was wearing a mask, and a thrown blade through the head did absolutely nothing to stop his words.

He's probably already awakened but maintains his sentience.
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>>136144816
>Do I fit in yet guys?

Actually I do hope Helck gets an anime, because the fanbase will become bloated and insufferable and you and the rest of the "everything popular sucks" brigade will stop coming here.
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>>136144887
Herc wasn't worse than most of the Greek legends of the time, whether you include gods or just heroes.
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Next chapter is going to fuck me up. I just know it, everything is going to hell.
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>>136145012
He was a bigger dick because he got away with things others couldn't, even breaking religious laws set down by his father and getting off with a slap on the wrist because his dad said "oh well he's just rambunctious!" and didn't bother to punish him.
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>>136144807
the awakening curse has nothing to do with the king
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>>136144807
There's some interesting bits in the minotaur hero fight, like Helck nearly going berserk and trying to pull the Hero Killer sword on him. But this is the really interesting part.

The anger and bloodshed of the war released the seal on the Curse of Darkness that sleeps in the land. The rest is familiar now. But we should be asking, where did the Curse come from, who sealed it, and what goal does it seek?
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Rereading the manga, I've noticed that whenever Anne actually smiles, she's also being manically evil like at the very beginning of the manga.

She should be maniacal more.
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>>136144887
>>136145095

The only real sin in the Greeks believed in was hubris. That said, Herc had that one in spades.
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>>136144887

Hercules was not an ideal man because he was flawless and could do no wrong, he was an ideal man because he recognized his failings, genuinely cared about the people around him, felt true sorrow when he lost people important to him, and strove to atone for his sins even when he could have bitched out by pointing out that it was Hera's doing that drove him insane every time.

Hercules could always have just ignored the laws of mankind and refused to be punished like every other demigod. Nobody could have possibly stopped him. The reason he's such an incredible hero is because he accepted humanity's laws and fulfilled his every punishment and penance necessary to prove his desire to right his wrongs.

In this regard, Hercules is a more approachable ideal figure than images like Superman who literally commit no sins and never fail.
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>>136145122
Last one, since I'm stopping at the start of Helck's flashback. Aside from some hints about Edil not giving the fights against Hydra his all, we should remember that someone or something is spying on Azudora here.
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>>136144528
Tokyo ghoul is trashed
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Alright guys. Last dump before I crash.
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>>136145297
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>>136145297
BASED
Thank you very much rello.
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>>136145297
ITS HAPPENING
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>>136145297
I've been waiting. Come at me bro
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>>136145350
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>>136145192

Incorrect, Heracles accepted mankind and the god's punishments for his sins, prostrated himself before Helios when he acted out of line by firing Hydra arrows at the sun, and in general was a pretty cool dude to hang around rather than a pretentious twat. Any hubris Heracles might have had was wrung out of him the moment Hera drove him insane and forced him to kill his own family. Contrast with a very similar hero, Theseus, who got big for his britches and tried to abduct Persephone from Tartarus, only to be fused to a stone and given the sentence of spending eternity there for his hubris. Heracles is the one who freed Theseus by begging Lord Hades to reduce Theseus's sentence when he came across him during his Twelfth Labor, a Labor in which Heracles courteously went to Hades and asked for permission to borrow Cerberus rather than just stealing the dog and incurring Hades' wrath.
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>>136145434
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>>136145465
FUCK FUCK FUCK NO NO NO
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>>136145465
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>>136145465
no pls
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>>136145408

>And Alicia with her high battle sense, who saved her comrades from danger on several occasions and never gave up no matter the situation.

Alicia finally gave up.

Goddammit.
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>>136145520
Pottery...
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>>136145513
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>>136145520
Let's be honest.
The snow will get them wherever they go, she's already undergoing the Awakening so it's impossible to stop at this point, and there's basically no winning the awakening scenario no matter what.

It's kind of understandable. Especially after whatever they put her through to make her almost non-receptive before her execution.
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>>136145535
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>>136145570
Noooooo
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>>136145382
So they lied to the nobles huh? The nobles were going to get turned too.
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>>136145570
I can't handle this
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>>136145570
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>>136145520
It's okay she became qt angelgirl because she's supporting cast and isn't just an extra. Helck just needs to break the King's spell by speaking directly to her womb.
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>>136145611
my tears
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>>136145611
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>>136145570
>>136145611
It hurts
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>>136145570
>>136145611
I can't go on anymore. Im done.
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>>136145570
>>136145611
>>136145637
Just why ?
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>>136145611
Of course.

Of fucking course that's her last request. I wasn't ready for this.
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>>136145434
>>136145465
Its over everything is over
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Rello, pls stop. My heart can't take it.
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>>136145691
Well that explains the chapters until then.
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>>136145637
This is the end of volume 5.

Let me twist the knife before I step out.
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>>136145611
Man was not meanr for this magnitude of feels.

Aliciaaaaaa.

Fuuuuuuu.
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>>136145570
>>136145611
Well, Helck always smiles now just became a dark reminder.
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>>136145754
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>>136145744
The entire time, Helck has been trying to keep his smile to hold on to a promise

A promise from a person who would most likely not even remember who he is once she and everyone he knows become powerful enough to destroy anyone in their path.
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>>136145789
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>>136145382
Big talk, but I notice THIS guy isn't transforming either.
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>>136145744
HAHA LOOK EVERYONE. LOOK HOW DITZY AND AIR-HEADED HE IS. EVEN THOUGH HE'S STRONG HE'S SO HAPPY AND NAIVE. SO FAHNNY JOAK.

IT'S A GAG MANGA.
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>>136145611
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>>136145771
>feels
>Fuuuuuu
Out. Get out.
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>>136145754
>>136145789
AaaaAAAaaAAAaaaaAAaahhhh

The knife is twisted.
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>>136145815
Done

Good night.
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>>136145611
I can't never look at that smile the same again.
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>>136145852
Why must you do this to us?
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>>136145852
Thanks rello!
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>>136145852
thanks rello
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>>136145796
>likely not even remember who he is
She will remember, but she will be evil.
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>>136145754
>>136145789
>>136145815
>>136145852
god damn it

Thanks man.
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>>136145852
Shit, that really was a hell of a knife twist. Thanks, anyways rello.
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>>136145570
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK ;___;
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>>136145852
Thanks.
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>>136145852
Good night
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>>136145852
Thank you for the suffering
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>>136145852
gracias. ;_;
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>On a reread it looks like Edil is trying not to cry bitch tears and not just strung out like I originally though
FUCK SHIT FUCK FUCK
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Thank you rello
Now I must try to get some sleep
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Well, at least the nobles got what was coming to them.
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ITT
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I can't take this anymore, I need somethng to warm my heart.
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>>136145962
Not yet.
Hopefully, they will, though, and at Helck's hands.

After all, those bastards are no longer human in a whole 'nother way.
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>>136145611
IT HURTS
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>>136145962
As expected. But that leaves the question of who the actual puppetmasters are and what their goal is.
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>yfw the author set this shit up from the beginning
>Tricked us with a light hearted gag manga parody of the overdone hero vs demonking trope
>IT WAS ALL A PACK OF CLEVER WHITE LIES MADE TO RAILROAD US INTO MISUNDERSTANDING

I never asked for this suffering. I just want to see Anne's cute face again.

>inb4 she's the next to suffer
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>>136146008
Volume 1 of Helck
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>>136145465
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>>136146031
They were turned into mindless monsters by the very plot they supported. I'd say that's getting what was coming to them. Helck killing them wouldn't even mean anything since they're now just more soldiers.
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>>136146057
Fuck you. Fuck you forever.
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>>136144930
>implying
They will shitpost, like in OPM threads
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I just want to see fluff again. That little chicken ball is the healing we need.
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>>136145852
>>136145952
>>136145611
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>>136146083
Wait, then who the hell does that leave? The King, the beard guy I can't remember the name of, and whoever else may've been awakened beforehand?
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>>136146057
>implying

It's like looking back on the life of a person who killed themselves, only to see all the signs of it eventually happening and thinking "Why didn't I notice earlier?"
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>>136146106
He isn't as annoying as your usual mascot, but he's not something I look forward to seeing. Is there something in the other omake that makes him worth it?
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>>136145570
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Where are the raws coming from?
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>>136146137
The worst part is, there is no way for Helck or his brother or anyone else to figure this plot out and stop it. By the time Helck realized the doctor and the king enacted the plan, it was already too late.

Fuck even reading the first few chapters, knowing the fact that the characters were like us, unaware of the reasons behind the disappearance of the humans, twists the knife.

First you think Helck did it or they evacuated, nope, they were forcibly transformed into winged angels, forced to serve forever.
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>>136145852
Thank you, rello the hero.
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>>136146135
Yes, the human race is essentially gone.
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THANK YOU BASED RELLO
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>>136145611
i wasnt ready for this
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>>136146209
http://manhua.dmzj.com/yongzheheluku/
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>>136146135
King, beardy, and Mikaros the archmage. Plus beard's daughter. They're the only ones who (seem) like they still have wills of their own (without being controlled by the king, that is).
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>>136145611
This hit me a lot harder than I expected. Fuck.
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>>136146135
The bearded guy's daughter and probably some other high ranking nobles like the ones in the king's inner circle.
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>>136145852
So sad and painful. Thank you Rello.
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>>136146236
>First you think Helck did it or they evacuated
What. No. Not at all.

What confuses me are the drawings of the angels spy-chan found in some random human houses. Did some humans see people being transformed into angels, took the time to draw it, then transformed themselves at the end?
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>>136145852
thank you
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how long till this gets really popular
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Helck, I need somebody
Helck, not just anybody
Helck, you know I need someone
Helck!
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>>136146256
>>136146299
And the awakened are technically immortal in that they just respawn or something like that and never age, don't they? Killing that Monster King reverted the curse on other monsters, but in this case..

I imagine either that rolls back the curse and the control, or it wipes out all of humanity. But then if the awakened humanity is essentially under control of 4 people, that'd pretty much be a mercy killing if the latter happened.
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>>136145611
>In the end Alicia protected Helck's smile

Based waifu. That's why tomboys are the best.
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>>136145570
;_; fuggggg
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>>136146400
I think awakening does not stop aging.
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>>136146358
Might just be awakened soldier propaganda from the initial phase of the plan.
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>>136146374
I won't mind. I'm pretty good at ignoring fanbases.

If it means more Vami fanart I'm all for it.
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>>136145570
jesus fucking christ ouch

that just explained the shit out of me right there
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>Affects all humans
>even nobles
>Rafaed standing there and not giving a single fuck
Does that mean cless put his dick into a half monster
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This is...fucked.

I'm certain now Helck lost his faith in humanity even before they all awakened.
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>>136146053
And it was all foreshadowed. He played us.
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>>136146514
What happened to Rafaed daughter anyway?
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>>136146374
If it's like JoJo, SnK, and One Punch man, it'll take an anime.
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>>136146558
Locked up in the Castle drinking tea with spy-chan
She asks if Cless and Helck are okay
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>>136146291
Oh. And I could have sworn those were literally translated Japanese phrases. That's surprisingly consistent if they're passing through one more language.
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>>136146523
>Noble tries to claim the people threw the rocks at her and he wasn't responsible for her pain
>the people immediately blame the noble
>Helck knows both sides are at fault

Man, the majority of humanity are literally nothing but fearful idiots that believe everything told to them until they need to save their own necks.
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>>136146358
The demons made a big deal about Helck being a wanted man. From the beginning it's apparent there was something off about the guy. My guess was that he somehow absorbed the strength of the entire human population and was secretly a sociopath that just put on an innocent face.

What I got was DEFCON 1 suffering.
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>>136146514
Well, he showed up and casually turned those demons into New World Organisms before, so he could be human but have control over the power of awakening and thus be immune.
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>>136145611
Literally every page of this manga from the beginning has just been retconned into suffering
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The suffering is real, but on the brightside, it can't get any worse than this.
>>136145952
This is why I want Helck to meet Angel Alicia, she must still remember him.
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This manga has successfully made me cry.
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This isn't what I signed up for rello, why did you pull this bait and switch on us all.
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I swear to god, stop posting reaction image when other people are dumping manga you fucking faggot
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>>136146414
underradet post
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>>136146701
Don't shoot the messenger, the mangaka did this to us.
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>>136146582
It needs more views on reddit.
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>>136146744
He's not dumping you stupid faggot.
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>>136146684
I fear that this will led to more suffering.
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>>136146772
He dumped this on us when nobody knew about it. He knew.
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Thanks Rello, fuck the nobles and fuck the king.
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>>136146680
>deconstruction of gag manga genre

Please I don't need this. Gintama already did this to me. I just wanted to have fun and laugh. Now that I'm fully invested and can't undo the straps on this ride. Someone let me off.
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>>136145570
This shit is like the Eclipse from berserk, but even more rage inducing.
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>>136146800
Well he fucking is
He dump like what, 3 chapter?
And you fucking faggot need to post your "lesadfaec.jpeg" every fucking time and interrupt someone's reading
Fuck off to reddit
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>>136146684
That's just going to make it more tragic.

>>136146840
He wanted to bring us a brilliant manga no one had touched.
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>>136146816
Nonesense, Helck already lost everything, once you hit rock bottom the only way is up.
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>>136146849
Man, remember when it was funny card games, and Helck cheating at a horse race?
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>>136145180
I had hoped that the chef kid would join the team. His enthusiasm would have played nicely off of the rest of the main cast.
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8 more chapters to catch up. Considering Rello has awakened, I'm guessing we'll catch up by Sunday or Monday, is it right?
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>>136146864
Then fuck off you little princess.
>all ur lesad feces are making my immersion not as so immerse.
fuck off shit head.
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>>136146916
But Helck is only one of the protagonists. Hell, he's not even the main character outside of his own flashback. Vami-chan still has everything to lose
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>>136146684
Alicia explained she herself isn't that strong, it was her weapon that let her keep up with everyone else on her team. She doesn't have high hero compatibility. Like how her eye morphed while awakening she's more prone to its bad effects.

You think the worst is over but you don't know how much of her is left under that helmet.
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>>136146864
You are literally retarded. He's not dumping. He specifically dumped this before he crashed. he's done. Shut the fuck up you colossal retard.
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>>136146989
Deformed cute waifu begging to be killed. Damn it, it's a cheap trick but it always work.
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>>136145570
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>>136146616
There's decent odds he's the real king and the masked figure on the throne is just a dummy.
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>>136146989
We don't even know how the others handled their transformations. All things considered, her skin buldging, her eye fucking up and a wing growing from her back is a thousand times more graceful than the rest of the populace, and obviously none of the scarring of the skin veins and such are left on the awakened mercenary team now.
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>>136145391
Theseus was Hercules' cousin and Hades' nephew

Also you the part where the Oracle refused to see him the second time so he broke into the temple at Delphi, stole the Oracle's divining tripod and ran out swearing he'd make his own Oracle forcing his brother Apollo to come down from mount Olympus to fistfight him to get his Oracle's divining tripod back, then Zeus came down from Olympus and made Apollo tell Hercules how he could do penance for killing his friend who was a houseguest (who was only there because Hercules had stolen his friend's father's horses because he was salty that his friend's father wouldn't let him marry his daughter due to Hercules having killed Megara) even though Hercules was clearly being a shit. Then even though Apollo sentenced Hercules to sell all his possessions and sell himself on the slave market to be a slave for three years, the lucky asshole gets bought up by a hot queen from Ionia who wanted to use him for lots of kinky sex, like where Hercules would dress up in her underwear and she'd wear his Nemean lion headdress and ram her from behind.

And then after all that when he was done with his penance he raised an army and burned down the houses of everyone who had crossed him and remarried.

>>136145192
Incorrect. The Greek concept of xenia necessitated that family and houseguests were to be treated well. Hercules broke this law created by his father twice.
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>>136146995
>>136146966
Well then at least can you fucking retard wait until he done, after that you can post your lesadfaec for all I care you fucking redditor
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>>136146989
We don't actually know if that's permanent. Apparently the awakening was super painful and horrifying even for those with high compatibility that came out sane on the other side. And Alicia was strong. She's even from a bloodline of a natural hero, and we've seen her post awakening and she was the only one that hesitated when Azudora mentioned that they were peaceful and used to be friends with humanity.
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>>136147135
Jesus christ fuck off. I didn't post any reaction images, but you're the only one here who's fucking things up for anyone. No one cares or has ever cared you sperg. Just leave.
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>>136146981
Anne-chan will be fine, her friends are all pretty strong.
>>136146989
I believe in the power of love, Helck will save her and set everyone free. They might need to unite to fight a bigger threat.
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Witch is not Vamirio, but they're probably related.

She's a witch, and "Helck" is a series that loves to play tropes straight--witches and prophecies are common to fiction.

From what we know from omake and such, it doesn't seem like Vamirio had parents, and instead Azudora played as a kind of surrogate. Considering stuff like familiar scents, feeling nostalgic for the island, etc, it probably means she was born on the island and eventually somehow found her way onto the continent/into the empire.

Witch's hair is curlier, on that note. It also seems to be an entirely different color.

Well, mainly I'm babbling because I don't want witch = Vamirio to become a widely accepted theory. Fuck time travel.
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>>136147135
Then why bother reply to me then
I told those fucking retard that post reaction image in the middle of dumping, not you
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>>136147135
He has been posting chapters as he translates them for a while. No one has ever had a problem in these threads until you. Fuck off.
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>>136147173
Some shit is going down with the northern country.
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>>136147245
Yes and the german was alright with immigrant until coglone happened, your point?
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>>136147234
Because your bawwwing is way more annoying than any reaction images.
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>>136147173
Asudora is currently the strongest non-Helck shown. Meaning he's definitely going to job eventually, and when that happens despair will hit the fan since Vamirio is tsun as fuck for him.
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I tried rereading this again from the start.

This feels so different.
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>>136147285
Aye, and I bet it have something to do with the human king, the noble that adopted Helck and Cless, and the royal physician.
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>>136147290
It's time to stop posting.
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>>136147290
Oh, so you're from /pol/, no wonder you're such a fucking sperg over nothing.
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>>136147304
Press this
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I need some loli Vamirio to heal my heart.
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>>136147345
Maybe you should since your the one who has a problem with these threads. People are having fun and have been for a while. You showed up and are angry and sperging over how the threads have always been. you should leave in that case.
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>>136145611
I REALLY WANT TO GET OFF THIS WILD RIDE
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>>136147391
Make me retard
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>>136147310
I don't think he'll job, atleast not to the angels that's attacking the Empire.
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>>136145570
>>136145611
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>>136145637
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Even if killing the Human King makes all of his comrades revert back to normal, there's one thing he'll never get back.

His dead brother Cless.
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>>136145852
Thank you, rello.

Good night.
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>>136147552
That's not how you spell trash.
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>>136147552
Who knows, maybe a miracle could happen.
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>>136145637
fuck i wish i
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>>136146582
All of those were really popular before anime, the anime sereis just exploded them.

Except Jojo, that was always a phenomenon.
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>>136146400
Revival is one of the king's spells, not a hero's ability.
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>>136147552
Given they completed the Mass Awakening ritual, and Cless was a required element to do so, he's probably not dead.
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>>136147229
I'm with you on the fuck time travel thing. I was actually wondering if the Witch was related to Azudora somehow. Which is why she would seem familiar to Vamirio
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>>136145570
>>136145611
What a direction to take a gag manga. I don't know what to say.
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>>136147820
It was never a gag anon. The signs were all there. You just thought it was a gag.

We all did.
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>>136147786

Oh great, then it might end up being a 40k God Emperor of Mankind thing with the barely alive shell of Cless. That's probably even worse.
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>>136147867
>Check Tropes page
>Cless
>"Fate Worse Than Death"

Fug.
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>>136147867
Don't worry he's on life support.
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>>136147867
You'll find out next chapter.
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>>136146684
I can't wait to see all her corruption and ugly side being exposed when she see Helck happy with companions.
She would be filled with envy.
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>>136147135
Fuck off to /v/ you whinny faggot
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>>136147934
>See Helck with Anne
>So that's the type of girl you like!!
How horrifying.
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>>136147323
In the previous thread the anon who was deconstructing earlier pages interpreted a page where Azudora is speaking about the possibility that humans+northern threat would equal the destruction of the empire and the creation of a new world

The anon interpreted it in the sense that New World Monsters would begin spreading outwards from the empire, since all the monsters outside of the empire seem to originate from within the empire and the barrier castles and cities are built specifically to keep those monsters in the empire while the imperial army works as a giant hunting mechanism to keep then numbers of monsters in check

The dragon emperor is probably a survivor of the magical apocalypse and founded the empire specifically to contain whatever the source of the poison mist is, which is also probably the thing which caused the magical apocalypse

The northern threat has failed to topple the empire, so whatever eldritch evil is trying to topple the empire and poison the entire world has manipulated humans over the centuries in order to use them as a second army to overrun the empire from the south
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can't wait for porn of anne being tentacle raped while yelling "stupiid!"
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>>136147337
>disagreeing that the NYE rape incidents were real

Anon plz, don't be that guy
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>>136148108
She is literally Louise.

Best tsukomi/straight character that we have in a long time.
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>>136147934
I doubt it. Although Anne's friendship with Helck is developing, there isn't any sign of sexual tension at all, she won't get jealous. She might be happy to Helck happy with his companions, considering she heard all the tragedy he's been through.
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>>136148108
So would the punchline be that after falling for the tentacles and being raped, she vaporizes them all from the thought of being pregnant while crying out "I don't want to be pregnant! Stupid!".
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>>136148079
Interesting idea..
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>>136147934
>>136148014
>Alicia vs. Anne love triangle hijinks over Helck
>Helck is too pure to realize a damn thing and it's impossible to even force him into the usual harem protagonist situations
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>All this time I though that Helck was just an annoying happy go lucky guy
>Always smiling like an idiot
>In every situation
>MFW now

Helck, I'm sorry, I didn't know your suffering, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
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>>136148108
What does she say in the original? "Baka"?
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>>136148283
yes
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>>136148227
The punchline will be a flashback to her childhood when we see her parents killed before her eyes
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>>136148079
So someone else do think that there's an eldritch evil trying to topple to the Empire aswell. That theory sound quite possible, espically with what we see in the latest untranslated chapter.
>>136148244
>force him into the usual harem protagonist situations
>Helck just win in all situations; cooking contest, cleaning, romantic encounter, chocolate making
I want this.
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>>136148244
I really hope the author won't pull some harem or love triangle bullshit. Helck's not a self-insert MC, ffs.
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>>136148385
It was a joke, anon.
Besides, the author would probably make fun of the entire genre and then break it down to suffering in the end too.
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>>136148225
In this kind of fictions usually, their dark feelings will be amplified by a million time after corruption.

Even Edil the one with the most compatibility judging by his handsome appearance couldn't win against the darkness. Alicia was already badly disfigured after awakening.
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>>136148079
I'm the anon that was posting those pages.

A lot of stuff seems to be tied back to the Curse of Darkness, aka the Hero Awakening. The Empire seems to be special in that the Curse doesn't just empower stray individuals, but is actively blighting the land and spawning monsters and continually draining strength from anyone outside protective barriers.

From Azudora's comments and Vermirio's surprise at seeing its effects elsewhere, it might be that the Empire's primary reason for existing is to act as guardians that keep the Curse blight from spreading. If enough of their wards are destroyed then the entire planet will be consumed and it'll be terraformed into a New World.

This might have someone to do with the human conspirator's comments about turning the world back the way it's supposed to be. Maybe they mean "ruled by humans" or maybe they consider the Curse blight the natural state and want to deliberately unleash it. Maybe that's the "true peace" they keep going on about.
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>It's a gag manga
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>>136148563
>The Empire seems to be special in that the Curse doesn't just empower stray individuals, but is actively blighting the land and spawning monsters and continually draining strength from anyone outside protective barriers.
Well, the curse hasn't really affected any demons. The crazy demons Cless and his party met were probably forcefully awakened by Mikaros.

The minotaur kingdom had the curse problem too, but their people managed to completely seal it. I don't think Vermirio are surprised to see it elsewhere (they didn't see it, did they? They were just surprised that the New World Organisms showed up elsewhere after hearing about it) because they're guardians, but because they thought the curse was limited to them/did not connect that with the phenomena of awakening before (with Vermirio probablymaking the connection after meeting multiple examples and getting Helck's backstory).

What happened to the tribesmen, the minotaurs, the humans; the curse appeared in different ways. The tribesmen were few and weak; we can probably assume the curse rose up to empower them recently in their history. The minotaurs had completely sealed their curse, but unleashed it again to use as a weapon. Then the humans had the curse periodically appear among individuals in their kingdom, the hero and the king. Lastly, the demons don't have anyone mutating from the curse, but their land is completely blighted. They're all probably dealing with the curse in different ways according to their culture.
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>>136148837
>They're all probably dealing with the curse in different ways according to their culture.

That can't be the whole story. The Empire is a union of 15 different kingdoms. There had to be something that forced them to unite under the dragon emperor's leadership.
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This is some hyper-concentrated suffering, I haven't tasted something like this in a long, long time.
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>>136145122
Oh, that's what people meant by Minotaurs
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>>136149182
Seriously it's a huge surprise how competent this manga is put together. Seriously everything has been foreshadowed either in the character dialog and body language, and with a pace brisk enough to quickly reward those who notice the clues to the next plot point.

Basically what another anon said about watching videos of a guy who committed suicide. All the signs are there.

Also really do not want time travel. It's the one plot device used the most poorly and often times it'd be much easier to use any other device than time travel, considering how inconsistent it's applied in media.
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>>136145297
praise jesus
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>>136145637
So it's pretty much confirmed that the archer angel is her
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>>136147552
> Implying Helck won't journey to the otherside and pull his brother out by hook or crook.
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Look like I've got a new mango to pick up.
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Desert village arc.

FUCK, THE COOKING PART WAS AMAZING, AND THEN THE DARK WARRIOR ENDING! I DIDN'T EXPECT THESE FEELS
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>>136144571
>>136144527
>>136144657
>etc
Just stop, it's wasting images for rello's dump. People had talked about these stuffs to death before you even discovered these threads. At least check the archive before joining in discussion.
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>>136149702
Dude, Rello's going to sleep for the day.

it's going to be at least half a day before he starts dumping again. The thread will probably die during the night in that time if there isn't discussion. Also, if image limit is hit, then a new thread will simply get made.
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>>136146605
> I only threw one rock!
77-san is a master of twisted comedy
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>>136149702
Little late to be butthurt when I finished hours ago. Also, are these threads hitting the image limit? No. Am I doing it in the middle of rello posting a new chapter? No. So why do you give a fuck if I spend a couple hours of my time doing it?

They're on-topic posts, which is better than a lot of Helck threads manage. And even if you personally have noticed every single thing I pointed out, a lot of other people haven't and it sparked some decent discussion. So either calm down or go find a forum hiring moderators, because in these parts we just point and laugh at people like you.
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I read while expecting something silly as Yuusha ga Shinda!, but now even Yuusha ga Shinda! is FEELing right now.
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>>136150591
It is alright. The flashback arc is over.
We are going to back to our comfy gag manga with Helck doing silly antics with the 3stooges and Anne from management.
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I hope that the winged soldiers can be saved at the end, Helck deserves to have his girl and his friends back
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PRAISE RELLO
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>>136150550
Whatever you want to tell yourself, what I want to remind you of is, posting images when someone else is supposed to do the dumping is always considered bad manner. Good thing I'm the only faggot got asspained by it in this thread.

Also did you check the archive or what. I didn't even try to berate you, it's good to see what people have been talking about before joining in the discussion yourself.
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>>136145570
>>136145611
EGAO
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> anons think at least it can't get any worse than this
What had you fall under the impression that Azudora's backstory wouldn't be even more SUFFER AND DESPAIR than Helck's?
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I wonder what will be the reaction of Anne after hearing Helck's history. Actually, the only bad move of the author up to now was not showing Anne's reaction to these sad parts.
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>>136145570
>>136145611
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>>136150715
Yes but rello went to sleep, read the thread man. He is done for the day.
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>>136150791
I disagree. I think taking us out of the story might be bad.
inb4 we snap back to the current time and she's fallen asleep
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>>136150669
>implying
you are gonna get your bittersweet end of helck sacrificing himself to save the populace of the world and you will like it, perhaps via a reverse hero awakening and him having to maintain it for all eternity or some shit.
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>>136150791
>Actually, the only bad move of the author up to now was not showing Anne's reaction to these sad parts.
Her incoming calm, slightly less frowned expression while saying "you've got it tough" would be fucking unnerving.
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How the fuck does this whole awakening work? How does that snow know who is a noble and who isn't?
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>>136150861
They'll kill the king expecting it to lift the curse, but I'll only make the angels go berserk, just like what happened to the minotaurs. And Helck will cry because the only thing left to do is kill off all of his human friends. Calling it.
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>>136150926
>who is a noble and who isn't
Dude, the noble isn't spare.
Only awakened beings like Helck isn't affected.
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>>136150936
>It'll
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>>136145754
>>136145789
>>136145815
>>136145852
yep consider it twisted
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>>136150786
>be azudora
>be the cheeky elf companion of ancient human hero
>that hero then gets mind controlled by the king and is resurrected to be used as a weapon
>azudora has to kill the king and his friend to end his suffering
>also has to watch as over the centuries his friend's ideals of humans and demons working together for peace are torn down by a xenophobic and superstitious society ruled by evil nobles
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>>136150926
It doesn't. The nobles get fucked. Check the panel where the fat noble guy got fucked.
Rafaed is never a human bean to begin with.
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>>136150936
>only way to stop the angels from berserking is to defeat the ultimate evil
>Helck travels deep into the depths of the underworld and pushes himself to 110%
>realizes that somehow his existence is sustaining the ultimate evil and has anne from management use the hero killer sword on him to defeat it
>the world and humanity is saved at the cost of Helck's life
>helck becomes warrior-jesus
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>>136150977
When everyone's an asshole, you'd may as well throw them all in the ball pit. We saw how the mob mentality got.
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>>136146053
This is more apt than ever
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>>136150836
Shit, rereading the thread now, I was wrong
There was a fucking buttdevastated faggot before me
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>>136150964
>>136150977
Well shit, I didn't see that. This is like some Utawarerumono tang shit.
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>>136151026
There is no other end to this other than Helck's death. I am 100% sure this series will end with his death.

He has every single death flag for a character destined to sacrifice himself.
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>>136150836
Forget it. It's this one anon (I really hope it's just the one) who doesn't know the difference between an image dump and a new chapter thread. He's been trying to play thread police all night. Ignore him.
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>>136151095
Anon this is still a gag manga.
He won't die.
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>>136151095
Well as I said before the manga seems to draw influence from the myths of Hercules

And the Greeks believed that after his death Hercules was deified by his father and the Greeks considered his life to be more or less ideal

Helck is in pretty much all ways the ideal human in a world of assholes, so it isn't too farfetched that Helck dies but in death his example ensures humans will never become worthless fucktards again
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>>136151095
>I am 100% sure this series will end with his death
77-san might pull a "Helck is a story that repeats itself" on us. Them ancient civilizations were most likely got fucked by the hero curse too. Helck's death would save the continent in the mean time, but there will be no stopping ancient Eldritch horror where death dies itself etc... once and for all.
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>>136151240
Have you read the same thread that we're in
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>>136151256
Alternatively you put off your parallel goggles and read it for what it is without imposed expectations. Guaranteed to be good for your health.
If you look for it hard enough, anything is an analogy of another. Just stop with Helck and Cless being a pun on Hercules.
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>>136151268
The suffering is all in the past.
Anne-chan flame will extinguish all his darkness and piuy angelic voice will ensure his mental state.
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Notice how Alicia calls it a "Holy Sword" but the human nobles call it a Demon sword?
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>We didn't get to see Helck pull out the bonses right out of his Noble Benefactor and the Mage's bodies and snap them like twigs just so they could see him doing it

There is no death too cruel for these people.
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>>136151523
As far as we know, besides those already awakened, the Nobles got their just desserts. They thought they were going to lead a powerful army and in the end they got forcibly awakened too.
Now it's just the king, beardy and his daughter, and that mage bitch that devised this spell in the first place.
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>>136151558
>and his daughter
>implying she already awakened
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>>136151558
>mage bitch
Mikaros? Isn't Mikaros a guy?
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>>136151558
Who gives a shit about those small fry

The bearded shit and the doctor sage shit and the king need to die very very horribly.
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>>136151523
Reading this hurt my hands.
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>>136151615
Then why is his vagina so sandy?
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>>136150936
More like killing the king will end his resurrection magic, and everyone who had been revived will die for real. There will be just enough time for some last farewells with his friends.
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>>136151741
Because everyone always calls him Mickey.
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>>136151042
More like
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I'm sad
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>>136152223
Even if you're sad, just smile.
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>>136146596
Until rello says anything, we don't know if he's translating from chinese or japanese.

I'll assume he's translating from japanese.
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>>136152506
The raws anon gave him were Japanese.
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>>136152665
Ura sunday is a digital magazine right?
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>>136152739
Yeah, but I remember people giving him raws more than once. Including that one thread starting with the omake and rello said he'd do them after we catch up.
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>>136149182
And our reaction?

>MORE.

Do it for helck. ;-;
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Read the chapters from the previous thread and those here.

Goddammit. Helck had a hard life.
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>>136149182
And you thought Shield-bro and his tanuki had it hard.

Helck topped it in one go.
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>>136151355
That won't work. His emotions are swirling, he's probably more turbulent than the Eye of Terror. He is a genuinely nice person, but once things start to go out of control he will snap.
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>>136153319
Shield bro circumstances were very different from Helck. Regardless of what happened shield still had one trauma that could be healed with just trust.

But Helck? How the fuck does one even get over this? He still trusts, he's still nice to his new comrades, but he has so much emotional baggage that I don't see any resolution to other than him killing the new awakened humans at any cost.
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>>136153651
WE MUST SEND OUR FEELINGS TO HIM ACROSS THE INTERNET

JOIN ME, ANONS
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>>136153651
I swear someone needs to draw Helck and Shield-bro drinking together beer in a inn.

Killy from Blame! serves them the drinks.
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>>136149632
I just caught up to chapter 52 and holy fuck this is the craziest feels coaster I've ever been on I haven't felt this since reading Golden Age Berserk for the first time
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>>136153727

Oh please, shit-bro is not even suffering, is just a passive effect of the shield, like the spear making the other idiot horny and jealous
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>>136153997
He did get a hard time at the beginning.
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A fun fantasy gag manga, they said.
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>>136154095
It would be wacky and happy, they said.
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>>136154095
Hey, Helck might be prisoner to a cycle of endless suffering, but the demons are still having fun and happy.
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>>136154095
Tournament was nice, i think
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>>136154075
Shieldbro
> Got accused of rape at the beginning
> Rejected by people in a single city

>Helck
> Lost his family at a young age
> Bullied and forced to live on the streets throughout most of his youth
> Forced to watch his brother kill himself
> Betrayed by his own race
> Betrayed by the very people who saved the life of his younger brother
> Forced to watch a precious comrade become awakened while unable to do anything
> Ultimate goal now is to end humanity for the sake of his world's future

I don't know man.
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>>136154239
Well, the intensity of the situations are different in the extreme.
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I am going to bet that Alicia has a eye patch under her helmet, and the only reason she wears the is because her transformation isn't complete and she can disobey the king without the helmet, r-right?
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>>136154331
We need to see it in later chapters.
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This manga is very, very similar of Violinist of Hameln

"Old-school"

Dumb comedy > tragedy > some comedy every now and then > some massive tragedy > maximun oversuffering
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I can't even begin to imagine Anne's reaction to this. I mean, I'm surprised that Helck even managed to storytime these last couple chapters to Anne IRL without descending into madness again, seeing that there hasn't been any interruption of this flashback.
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Well, this takes on a new meaning.
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>>136154839
Anne from management is a good listener.
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>>136154874
Anne is adorable. I think her perma-frown just makes her even better.
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>>136145611
This is Alicia's last memory, isn't it?
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are we on par with the japanese release now?

rello an hero
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>>136155030
Nip release is 61 now I think.
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>>136155030
Nah. 61 chapters. Or was it 60b?
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>>136155078
>>136155092

I don'T know if I should go Hell yea or Hell naw ;_;
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>>136150936

Helck will kill the King but is forced to inherit his powers and he'll spend the rest of his life as a pseudo Lich King.
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>>136151268

Why is the Deadtube girl crying?
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>>136155152
She read the latest chapter.
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>>136155152
Got NTR'd.
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>>136155152
MC lost his virginity to the slut classmate.
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>>136155007
What she can remember will depend on her level of compatibility. If compatibility is "bad" she becomes one of those soulless awaken. Those who had high compatibility will still have their conscience.
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rococo-chan can heal helck's pain
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>>136155152
turns out machiya was a slut all along
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>>136154511
Well to have despair hope is needed
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>implying the humans have awakened as "heroes"
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>>136155199
Seems she had high compatibility after all, since she retains her original appearance
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>>136155310
Yep. They are in a worse situation than slaves. A crushing majority of them that is.

Not to mention that they cannot disobey that jerkass king.
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>>136155310
"Heroes" is just the term they created for those who "awaken". It's just their terminology to describe the process and the results, anon.
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>>136155351
Does that also apply to appearance?
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>>136155464
Yes. Raphael mentions that those forcefully awakened, with poor compatibility, will lose both their form and personality completely, and morph into generic muscled angel. Edil, Zell, and Alicia all seem to have had high compatibility.
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>>136145852
Thank you
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>>136145570
>>136145611
These two look pretty happy, I bet they would make a great couple.

Take this out of context and it won't look so bad. Time to bait people in OPT onto the feels train
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>>136155644
No, fuck that. That's a very important scene, and spoiling that in an OPT completely dulls the impact for anyone who picks it up.
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>>136155691
Oh shit, that is true. Forgive my foolishness.
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>>136155310
>implying helck won't be able to save them by slaying the false human king,
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>>136155644
naw put the full page spread where helck is going full berserk in the OPT thread.
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>>136155739
Not that anon, but nobody knows what may happen if the King is kill.

Hell, you saw what Cless did to him and he still was alive.

He's totally not human and the fact that he has something abominable about him, something eldritch, is more than enough to warrant that he ain't gonna go down easily.
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>>136155215
Do all demos have elves ears ?
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>>136155739
But if slaying the king will fix this, won't this whole awakening feel "cheap"? I'm expecting humanity to die if the King somehow can be killed.
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>>136155797
No. Some have cat ears, some are dogs, some are, uhm, Hon.
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>>136155789
my bet is the king is a sentient new world organism whos a high up from the north trying to crush all opposition south of them. he will probably be a retardedly high level and it will be a hell of a fight between him and helck.
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>>136155215
I wanna squezze the rococos
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>>136155810
anon i don't mean the awakening will be reversed, i mean him killing the king will free them from the mind control and sheer faggotry of them killing everything ever, humanity will still stay a pack of mutated freaks, just free.
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Only read these newest chapters. Seems like good series.
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>>136155810
I can think that if the King dies, the ones with high compatibility will live on while the others will simply disappear.

But seriously, neither I nor anyone here knows what will happen if the King's kill.

>>136155825
My thought also. That, or maybe he was once human and he did some scary deals with the new world organisms.
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I'm kinda curious,how are the New World Organisms named,are they "new" world organisms,or "new world" organisms?
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>>136155855
>Only read these newest chapters. Seems like good series.
Are there really people that do this? Reading a story in the middle not from beginning? Just why?
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>>136155873
Retard
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>>136155843
I wouldn't be so sure. Did you see what happened with the "awakening" of minotaur people? They went berserk. I wouldn't be surprised if humans went berserk after being freed of their mind control.
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>>136155825
I really hope he's some some of lovecraftian-ish horror and not something from the north.
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>>136155870
They are some eldritch shit I tell you.

Probably they are either some kind of mutants, dimensional abominations, or a mutation caused by eldritch shit coming out from somewhere.

>>136155873
There are sadly.

>>136155897
That's a good explanation. The only ones I'd see not going berserk are those with high compatibility.
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>>136155905
This desu, stop blaming the North for everything. The human did so with the demons too.
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Does anyone understand why Rafaed didn't try to kill off Helck during the awakening? He even told Helck to get away.
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>>136155873
Whenever I pick a random new book or comic I start reading from the middle to see if I would like it. Often I skip directly to the last chapter to see if there's any twist that makes the series worth reading. However if the series was recommended to me then I start reading from the start.
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>>136156009
I'd like to know why he wasn't changing like the others.
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Considering the information thus far, how likely is that for human king not being human at all?

>>136156009
What would he do? Cast spells that won't work on a lv99 hero? He knows he can't beat Helck alone, so why bother? Besides, the plan was a success.
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>>136156093
>Often I skip directly to the last chapter to see if there's any twist that makes the series worth reading.
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>>136156093
I would be too afraid of being spoiled by reading he latest chapters.
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>>136156009
Rafaed doesn't want to fight Helck because he would lose and he doesn't want Helck to fight awakened beings in the middle of transformation because he would lose good soldiers. Rafaed knows that Helck has a neutral stance by default and only fights in self-defense. It's entirely in his interest if Helck leaves the area.
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>>136155789
The king may have become a similar existence to what the minotaur hero was after his mind was overtaken by the curse. Unable to die and constantly regenerating until he gained his sense of self again and the curse dissipated (presumably him lowering his power, like how Helck does when he calmed down from his rages in the previous chapters).
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>>136156121
Feels like we won't find out anytime soon.

>>136156129
Well shit, isn't it still better to let his awakened heroes do the work? He will eventually be a thorn on his side.

>>136156177
Maybe Rafaed already has a plan up his sleeves to get rid of Helck?
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>>136156152
>>136156159
Well if the series has such weak writing that the summary is boring and the beginning is boring and even the middle is boring then I consider I'll probably never read it. I might as well check the last chapter out of curiosity before putting it back on the shelves or clicking on another link.
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>>136156215
>Well shit, isn't it still better to let his awakened heroes do the work?
Dude, they're like a bunch of lv20s. It's useless against Helck.
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>>136156252
>Often I skip directly to the last chapter to see if there's any twist that makes the series worth reading.
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So why exactly didnt they take the broken hero killer away from alicia if she is indeed the bow angel
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I was really hoping that Rafaed was a good guy who was being manipulated by arch-sage douchsnozzle. It's a shame that even Helck's savior and mentor figure is part of the bad guys.
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>>136156009
I don't know maybe he's against it too but it's too late to turn back.
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>>136156311
Why do they need to take away her weapon when she is completely incapable of going against the human king anyway?
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>>136156311
She can't betray the king, so it's safe to keep it with her. Besides, she has a good chance of getting Helck off guard.
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>>136156311
They probably plan on using it to kill Helck.
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>>136156352
>>136156360
Because the mage surely would love to have it in case helck comes back?
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>>136156311
She's a slave, she's no dangerous.
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>>136156373
What?
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Why wouldnt you want your soldiers to be equipped properly
They bothered to gave them armor, so why not weapons
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>>136156121
nobles arent affected by the spell.
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>>136155897
The Tooru Tribesmen who were tyrannizing the orcs were rather peaceful, however, even without a king to lead them. Keep in mind, though, that they were VERY weak. So maybe, so long as the foot soldiers DON'T become too strong like the minotaur soldiers presumably did during their war against the enemy country (since they went berserk after winning and having no enemy to fight against), they're able to retain some semblance to reason.
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>>136156311
Good point, it sounds like an important artifact that the human/angel army should treasure in order to defeat Helck in the future. At least it should be kept by their strongest champion, unless Alicia is already that. It's doubtful since Edil appeared to be in charge at Urum Castle.
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>>136156415
But they do have weapons. The grunts all have huge Cloud-stupid swords.

>>136156432
No, they're affected. Read the chapter again. No one is spared, other than Rafaed.
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>>136152802
Are those raws still available somewhere?
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>>136156432
Yes they do. The fatass did.

>>136156121
>>136156215
He could be the actual King, casting the spell.
He was a Hero of some sort in the past, he probably came across the awakening spell in an expedition of his.
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If I understand this right Spy-chan can only use telepathy with her sister when she's drinking tea? Just like the barrier guy with his beans? Demon powers are weird.
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>>136156177
>because he would lose good soldiers
Well, you can't say that's the case. The moment they start to transform marks the point at which their minds and bodies are unable to handle the new power, but that does not necessarily mean that only after they have finished transforming that they've already "awakened". Awakening may instead start at the point they BEGIN gaining in power. See here
>>136145297
From the wording, the transformation happens AFTER the person has already been forcefully awakened. Like that, they're already under the king's ability to resurrect.
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>>136156373
She has a better chance of stabbing Helck with hero killer than Mikaros or any other character (besides Cless, but he's not as reliable).

>Helck sees Alicia as an angel
>gets all emotion
><stab>

>>136156432
Read again. It was all a ruse, the nobles mutated too.
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>>136154331
probably both her eyes became as you see them in the panel, so she wears a helmet to cover them
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>>136156558
it's more likely that her face is normal now
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>>136156335
Well, surely they're nothing doing this just to be edgy and get everyone killed.
humanity was kind of shit anyway, both nobles and common people were trash.
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>>136156177
Well the entire execution was bullshit, this was only done to draw in Helck to cause him suffering for what he did.

By the way it seems that you need to be over lvl90 to emit a power that makes Vermi-chan worried.

>>136154159
Remember that the demons from birth for hundreds of years now live under the constant threat of the poison and monsters.


By the way I don't believe in the the witch is a future Vermi theory as it relies on a paradox and in that case she could with her power simply have searched for the orphans in the human world and brought them to the empire or the island.

I think she is the mother of Anne-chan and probably was one of those emperor guards before.
Azudora might even be her father.
Vermi seems rather young for someone of her race, maybe teen stage for them.
Now what if her mother sacrificed herself when she was still really young to fend of a threat of new world monster and the humans were partly responsible because they attacked at the time and they needed to split forces back then.
The mother sacrificed herself to let the people and her husband and child escape.
Now everyone thought she died, but instead she somehow ended up on the island with temporary memory loss or needed really long to recover.
Meanwhile Vermi was raised by a men that lost his wife and was over doting of his daughter as she was the sole person he could throw his love at. Maybe the citizens helped somehow in raising her as he still had to fullfill his role as one of the four.
This could have gone to the point of being annoying for her.
This would basically explain her entire chracter and why Vermi seems to be the center of Azudora's world.
It explains why Vermi is distant to Azudora while still respecting his ability and how important hte citizzens are for him, it explains why she is so serious, why she distrust humans on general, why the citizens are so important to her and most of all why she would have been so willing to sacrifice... 1/2
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>>136155873
Its kinda like OPT but with few chapters instead. Gives bigger picture if I like characters / style and the pace of story. A starting chapters are usually either baits or boring. And if story is interesting even in the middle, it is a huge + in my books.
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>>136156600
2/2
...herself in order to stop a threat like Helck if he meant dange to the people.
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>>136156452
>>136156520
>>136156539
you saw the crowd at the execution mutate and the fat guy who was directing it but you can't know if any of them was noble

its usually that plebe that goes there
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>>136156687
The fat guy IS a noble. Read again.
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>>136156435
Maybe it's a matter of time? Awakening could be something that is useful in the short term but which spirals out of control in the long term. The minotaur kingdom was at war for a long time but the Tooru tribe was only using Awakening recently, so maybe killing the source of corruption (the king) early enough can revert the people with no collateral damage, without creating people like the berserk minotaur knight. Helping the humans would become a race against time.
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>>136156600
No, I can confirm with you that Azudora is not Vermi's dad, you'll see a chapter about both of them later. Witch's identity is really intriguing me though.
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>>136156687
Fat guy is a noble, anon. Read the previous chapters. And Rafaed was even monologuing to Helck that both nobles and commoners alike would be transformed.
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>>136156687
The fat guy said he was noble, didn't he?
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>>136156724
Godamn, I really think this author is really good at dropping all sorts of hints in the chapters that makes me want to know more and more. I get more questions than answers each new chapter.

Some people here also identified the broken blade of Alicia when referencing back to the first couple of chapters.
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>>136156724
I don't think it's time so much as it is their growing strength (related to time, yes, but more related to their experience of fighting) that causes them to gradually become worse and worse. Hence the reason why Helck does not want the angels killed, perhaps?
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I hope this has a happyending, so we can see helcks and Alicias sons.

They would be beautifull.
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>Rafaed says every human is affected and that there is no escape
>Rafaed isn't affected at all
what does it mean
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>>136156738
Well ok I did not know that, but it would have explained their relation and behaiviour to me.
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>>136156813
>Helck
>children
haha
Him living through will be a miracle enough.
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>>136156828
He's part of the inner circle anon, of course he has countermeasures.
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>>136156828
>implying rafaed isn't a monster from the northern border along with the king.
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>>136156828
Maybe he is already awakened? Helck was not affected because he was already awakened.
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>>136156788
I think the reason he didn't want to get them killed is because he knew by then that they'll get revived anyway. Capturing them instead of killing is the way to go, otherwise they'll grow stronger.
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>>136156828
It looked like the forced awakening was his power to begin with. Remember the demon prisoners? He forced them to turn, and they were even warning Helck to be wary of Rafaed.
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So what exactly are they going to do if the king dies of old age
Isn't it really stupid to give your species a time limit like that?
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Does anyone like Piouy? I usually don't care about dumb mascot characters but Piouy's addition makes me want to see him around even more, even if he mostly does only stupid shit.
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>>136156872
Well Helck never said that he wants to kill Angels in the first place, he just wants to kill all remaining humans :^)
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>>136156828
4 possible reasons:

>Hero
Which makes the least sense in that he would've been the sacrifice and not Cless.

>Non human
It has affected demons before, so also not likely.

>The King
Should make the most sense. Maybe even calling the archsage over to look at Cless was part of his plan all along.
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>>136156921
I don't think humanities best interests were at play here
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>>136156921
You're talking like you know if the king ages, or if that thing is even alive. He gives that vibe like the Emperor in Warhammer 40k, maybe he is being powered by something like a golden throne.
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>>136156921

Considering he could take a swordblow to his face and make every none hero do as he says, I doubt he is a regular human.
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>>136156828
maybe he's a old hero with a legitimate reason to hate demons?
If he's just some eldritch abomination disguised it would be pretty boring.
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>>136156955
Fuck, forgot to add

>He is part of an group even more important and closer to the king than the nobles.
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>>136156955
You are misunderstanding something. They sacrificed Cless because of his ability, not just because he is a hero.
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Wasnt it said that rafaed was the strongest warrior before cless or something
So he either has a stupidly high compability and thus didnt change or he might have been the first testobject
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>>136156945
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You wouldn't sexualize the frown, would you /a/?
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It was mentioned that Cless was able to be they key thanks to his super rare ability, not just being a hero.
There certainly have been multiple heroes in the last 1000years but cless is even rarer than that
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>>136157012
Cless' ability IS being a hero.
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I forgot, do we ever see Rafaed and the King in the same scene? Is there any reason they couldn't be the same person?
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>>136157089
Then why dont the angels have super regeneration conditioning
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>>136157094

Both were in the throne room. However, the king could just be Rafaed's magical sockpuppet.
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>>136157122
Helck has it not Cless.
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>>136157094
Rafaed clearly doesnt have a sword stuck in his head, but he probably is it anyway considering how the king in general lived in secrecy
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>>136157089
No, I believe Rafaed said something about Cless having something that was an important part of this awakening.
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>>136145570
>>136145611
Fuck this
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>>136157157
Seemed to me he was simply talking about the awakening itself.
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>>136145382
This guy seems to be being oddly polite to Helck

Hmm, odd
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>>136157122
>>136157139
>>136157157
It seems to be that each heroes have different abilities and Cless' ability has something to do with Awakening.

Which would make sense why they didn't try to capture Heclk to add to the pit.
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>>136157217
Cless's ability was making his comrades stronger if i remember. This is why the used him instead of Helck.
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So what happened to the pieces of Hero Killer? Cless broke it then threw one half to the King's face then used the other half to commit sudoku. The sudoku fragment is kept by Helck and the one that got stuck on the King's head was given to Alicia? and now both have a hilt?
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What we are sure about is that Helck realizes that Anne is still a kid of her race right?
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>>136157252
Is this in the raws? I don't remember it.
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>>136157255
Helck's version can't really be called "having a hilt", it looks like like it was stuck into something crudely. The hilt portion is still with Alicia.
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>>136157252
>>136157217

But it seemed to me he was talking about the awakening itself. Nothing Cless does seems to be different or even as strong as what Helck can, including "drawing weird dangerous power".
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>>136157272
I'm sure he never really cared about that.
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>>136156527
> management girl's power is not actually first class at all and she needs to be mentally tensed and frowns all the time to use it
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>>136157272
I don't think Helck cares about that.
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>>136157122
>super regeneration conditioning
That's Helck's unique ability, like Varmilio's fire or the bald guy's super barrier.
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>>136156527
I'm pretty sure it's called "second ability" or something like that.
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>>136157442
Vermi-chan a cute!
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>>136157505
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>>136157217
>ability that
>the HERO cless possesses
doesnt that automatically exclude the ability itself being a hero
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>>136145611
THIS WAS SUPPOSE TO BE A CUTE GAG MANGA
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Does vamis powerlevel even matter if she just spams her ability?
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>>136157718
Her power level should probably account for her ability to spam her fireball.
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>>136157672
You gotto suffer before the healing starts, i too am waiting for the healing to start.
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>>136157765
Her ability is more like a firestorm rather than just a fireball.
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>>136157255
Read it again. What's stuck in the king's head was Cless' sword, not the hero killer. Cless broke HK in two, threw his sword against the king in order to avoid mind control and than became an hero with the upper half of hero killer. The hilt was probably left on the floor and was picked up either by Alicia or Mikaros. Currently Alicia is holding it.
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> Rafaed not affected by the snow
He's no longer human/not even originally human. As if everyone didn't expect that.
> The king...
Is quite clearly not the mastermind, the ringleader or even just freedom. But a key together with Cless sounds important enough. He's also the angels' respawn point so I guess eliminate him would at least remove the whole resurrection cheat.

For something actually worth more discussions
> Why they use Cless and not Helck
> What is Cless' role for them to keep him alive now that the mass awakening was already done
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>>136157903
About Cless, you'll get to see him soon again.
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>>136157903
They probably chose Cless because:
1) Easier to control, their shenanigans don't work on Helck, he's too strong;
2) That special ability, if we assume it's not something all heroes have.
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>>136157992
They chose cless because when he was young he nearly died and probably did something with him in the process of healing him to make him more controllable.
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>>136145611
>>136145637
LOVE IS OVER
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>>136157903
> Why they use Cless and not Helck
maybe that time when cless got sick he wasn't actually getting sick but it had to do with awakening. in that case they already had an excuse to look after cless, being their physician and all so there was no reason to switch to helck and arouse suspicion
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>>136145465
WOULD YOU KISS THIS ?
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>>136158265
>giant kawaii eyes
heck yeah!
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>>136145570
>>136145611
Wat are this tears.

Make it stop.

She didnt even got to confess.

Crying vermino when ?
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>>136158079
>>136158075
>>136157992
>>136157903
Most likely they didn't know of Helck's power when they decided to stick with Cless.
But Helck was under Rafaed's nose the whole time and he even had his suspicion of Helck, if he wanted to he could easily confirm it. Why would he leave someone like Helck alone all that time? Along with all his interaction with Helck so far I bet he had something else in the store for our man.

I can totally see why Mikaros was so keen on removing Helck the moment he reaveled his hero power though. Some dude defied the fucking Geass is too dangerous to be left alone.
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When did Helck become so popular? I'm kind of happy.
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>>136145852
I love you. Sleep well, rello.
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>>136158265
Actually I got a bit mad that they didn't kiss (or at least didn't show them kissing).
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>>136158370
I don't think they kissed. Helck is a doofus and he probably doesn't have romantic feelings for her. His feelings so far for her are mostly fondness.
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>>136145815
Did she always wear a braid. She looks super cute.
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