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What does /a/ think about my Japanese 321 class's required readings?
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>>136128996
I bet it was made by an old single lady with 5 cats.
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...am I understanding this correctly? Your course provides you with scanlations?

Holy shit that's hilarious.
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No way this wasn't made by a woman. Cardcaptor Sakura is great though.
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>>136128996
With the occasional archaic japanese, Rurouni Kenshin is an awful choice.
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>>136128996
>hetshit
Your professor is full plebian.
CSS gets a pass though
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>>136128996
Why are you even in 321, you should already be in like JPN 424 with your superior nipponese skills from anime without need for 100-300 level courses, and still excel in the class with no need for studying.

Happened to me
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>>136128996
I pity that hou have to read Sailor Moon. No one should have...
Also, Paradise Kiss? Talk about choosing the worst work of an author...
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>>136128996
Nice wordpad meme
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>he took the shoujoshit class
I bet you didn't even fight over the main character seat
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>>136129203
Have you read it, anon? It's good at its best and boring at its worse.
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>>136129363
>fujoshit
>straight manga
I want to post Inigo Montoya, but I don't think you'd even know what that means.
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>>136129203
Actually, the professor is some grayed haired man with a mustache.
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>>136129458
>I want to post Inigo Montoya, but I don't think you'd even know what that means.
That's a pretty good joke.
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>>136129474
I think your professor may be the gay
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>>136129458
It's better that you didn't because you clearly can't read
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>>136128996
What is this class called. Sound's like bullshit
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>>136129821
Japanese Graphic Novels and Animation
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>>136128996
How may stereotypical weeaboos are in your class? I want to take a Jap class but I'm scared.
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>>136130082
I just realized your class probably hasn't started yet.
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No Keit-ai, 0/10
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>>136130082
If your taking a first-level course, expect to see a huge dip in class attendance by mid-term. They usually never make it past the first semester.
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>>136130276
Our course had about a 60% drop-out rate. I can only assume everywhere else is at least fairly similar.
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>>136130082
I'm guessing all the weak weebs will drop out soon after they start.

Until they do, though, you'll probably have to face some hideous fat retard insist that they call the teacher sensei
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I had to read stuff like Doraemon, Chibi Maruko-chan and Gegege no Kitarou. Though not translated.
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>>136130361
How do I know if I'm a weak or a strong weeb?
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>>136130276
Our course had about thirty people during the first semester. By the time I'd gotten to the Bachelor's course we were three people left and only two of us actually got a degree.
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>>136130361
To be fair, you would call them sensei if you're actually speaking Japanese.
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>>136130451
Go memorize kana right now if you haven't done it yet. If you can do that much, you've got an okay chance of making it.
If you're ballsy you might want to try some very basic kanji as well, but don't feel too bad if it seems to much straight off the bat.
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>>136130451
If you're strong then no-one will be able to sageru your Japanese spirit

>>136130463
Well I can't argue with that, just dropping it in with English feels wrong.
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>>136130458
Were you one of the two or the sad number three?
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>>136130082
I took 101 for a language credit. It was brutal.

>tfw the hot Korean girl dropped

Easiest A ever though.
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>>136130606
>It was brutal.
>Easiest A ever though.
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>>136130596
I was one of the two. The third guy was some kind of leftist fuck that talked big but couldn't actually pull through with any of his plans for his thesis.
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>>136130655
Badly worded. I meant the level of unabated weebdom was brutal.
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>>136130587
>just dropping it in with English feels wrong.
I agree, but if the teacher is actually Japanese and it's a Japanese language class, calling them Mr. Yamaguchi or whatever sounds equally weird, even if you're talking to them in English.
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>>136130708
Yeah, makes sense.

Maybe I should have said a fat retard calling everything "sugoi kawaii desu" instead
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>>136130708
>calling them Mr. Yamaguchi or whatever sounds equally weird, even if you're talking to them in English.
If you speak English, you should speak English consistently. There's nothing sillier than replacing the easiest terms in a language just to appear to be speaking a different language. It's as dumb as Hollywood making everybody say yes and no in their supposed mother languages.
There is nothing wrong with Mr Yamaguchi, provided you pronounce Yamaguchi correctly.
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>>136128996
>class's
why are you trying to learn japanese
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>>136130798
I've had Spanish teachers go by Senior before.
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>>136130587
>If you're strong then no-one will be able to sageru your Japanese spirit
Reminds me of those big dawgs images
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>>136131030
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>>136130798
Well, that was the standard practise in our classes and there were almost no weebs there. Or the few there were got weeded out in the first semester or two. Really though, we were pretty much expected to talk Japanese consistently in our classes after the first year, so it hardly mattered.
And you say that, but it's weirdly common practise. My dad used to ask me to check his business emails to make sure he was using the correct honorifics for his Japanese clients, and they always used honorifics in their emails to him as well. It's just kind of standard.
I agree that it sounds weird in dubbed anime and games though. Persona 4 honorifics always sounded fucking unnatural to me.
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>>136130546
I thought hiragana was what you were supposed to do first?
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>>136131137
kana = hiragana + katakana
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>>136131137
>GAAAH I'M SUCH A FUCKASS I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT KANA
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>>136131137
Well yeah, I said kana. You should really learn hiragana and katakana at the same time, or at least in immediate succession. Hiragana is generally easier, admittedly.
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>>136131137
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>>136131221
Thanks.
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>>136131137
confirmed never ever learning japanese
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>>136128996
Why are manga required reading instead of proper Japanese literature? Why are you reading English translations if its a Japanese class? What kind of good goy would pay so much money for such an obviously shit class?
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>>136128996
>Kodansha English ver of Sailor Moon
>better translation
Kodansha is the worst english manga publishers
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>>136129871
God, that's almost as bad as the Game of Thrones class at my school.
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>>136131572
>Game of Thrones class
How can you have a class about one fantasy franchise? What is the point of it?
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>>136128996
what college is this?
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>>136131572
>Game of Thrones class
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>>136131137
No just start learning Kanji meanings.

Do RtK or KanjiDamage etc, look at DJT.

If you are a huge faggot you will just start kana and then vocab and learn kanji that way.
If you want to be able to read and get monogatari start with Kanji by radicals. If you plan to master nip speak, start with Kanji. If you want to forever remain a pleb then struggle by doing vocab.
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>>136131572
>not called the aSoIaF class
The tv show was a mistake.
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>>136131632
It's probably some low level elective class for filling credit requirements. Turned out I was missing 3 credits of anything to get my degree so I took this baby level python class
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>>136131638
Arts & Sciences
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>>136131572
>Game of Thrones class
what
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>>136131632
I've heard of people who've graduated in the study of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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>>136128996
>paradise kiss

I only remembered tommy february out of it which I am amazed.
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I memorize vocabulary just fine, but Japanese grammar gives me trouble. I feel like I'm never going to make progress in homestudy because I haven't had grammar explained to me further than the bare basics. Should I try to take a class? If so, should I start with the most basic course?
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What's going on in this thread, boys?
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>>136132116
Just take a class nerd
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>>136128996
What school?
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>>136132116
Grammar is so easy once you have it explained well.
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>>136132116
Skip the classes and save your money. Or spend that money on something a bit more useful. Learn grammar on your own and don't up like OP taking 300 level courses and still not being able to read full novels.
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>>136132116
Have you tried going to the learning jp threads on here or bought/pirated a book on learning jp? I've taken classes and maybe it was just my teachers but it was mostly regurgitation from the textbook
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>>136132116
Japanese and my mother tongue's grammar is pretty much the same so I just have to replace the words and adjectives in a sentence and I'm done.
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>>136132510
I bought two books on grammar when I was a teenager, but they were in storage until just a few days ago. I have them back again, so if you think textbooks are demonstrative enough to get me over these hurdles, I can try and do that until the spring semester starts, and then see where I'm at.

Thanks for the advice, anons.
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>>136129298
You don't know what you're talking about. I've written four novels and my dissertation in WordPad.
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>>136132692
Which grammar constructions are you having trouble with anyway?
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>all that shoujoshit
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>>136128996
How do you into japanese? Learning from books kill the mood.
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>>136132799
I honestly don't know enough about grammatical terminology to tell you. (I admit I'm not well educated.) It's just that I have trouble making sense of sentences beyond those that are very basic. I understand the functions of things like は and の but when we start delving into something like を I have more trouble, and it only goes downhill from there. I'll take a peek at my books shortly and see what they have to offer.
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>>136128996
What the hell, my teachers made me read fucking Genji Monogatari and shit like that.
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>>136131137
Just memorize all the kanji and you're good.
It's just like Chinese in that regard.
Kana is nice bonus, but not integral to learning the language.

I'd argue it hinders you, even.
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>>136132533
Finland?
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>>136133085
>Not needing to know all the particles
>Effectively not being able to make grammatical sense of anything written after WWII
Not the best plan in the world.
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>>136132972
Well, を really just marks an object to acted upon by a transitive verb. You basically need to memorize which verbs and forms are used with を and which ones are used with が. It really is a memory based thing. Like how other people memorize articles for nouns in some languages, you have to memorize particles and which verb they work with. That's one of the main points of を and of course there are many functions of these particles that entire books have been written about them and their place in the language. I wouldn't sweat it too much there. Learn the basics of the particles and figure out usage through reading practice. That's the only true way to grasp them because most definitions are going to be too abstract to be helpful really.
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>>136132972
Come on, を is just an object particle. りんごを食べます - I eat an apple. I admit, it gets tricky with stuff like に, which can be for points in time or space, a direction from our towards something and some other shit.
Other than that, it doesn't get very hard. You just have to memorize which verb form to user with each construct like ために or ように
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>>136133057
Had to translate a chapter of shin-chan, was neat
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Is it easier to listen or read Moon?
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>>136132972
Sooner or later の will betray you.
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>>136133321
>>136133332
Thanks for your time, anons, this is encouraging. I'll do some reading.
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>>136133377
I'm better at listening since I won't have to deal with kanji I don't know
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>>136133377
Listen. The grammar is arguably easier than any given European language, whereas the reading requires memorizing an 80 character phonetic alphabet and 2000 odd Chinese character set.
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>>136132381
>Minoring in Japanese.
>Still can't read shit without gratuitous dictionary abuse.

Fuck.

>>136132533
Fucking Koreans.
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>>136133098
>>136133535
Turkish actually. Latin would help in grammar if you knew it too.
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>>136133377
Listening. There are plenty of people that can speak Japanese fluently and still can't read shit.
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>>136133588
I heard turkish somehow being related to japanese by having similiar words for I think it was mountain or dog, but I didn't now the grammar was also similiar. It's still weird to think these two distant places have two related languages if you ask me.
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>>136133535
Korean isn't that similar to Japanese though
>>136133850
I think it's just a theory, and not a very well validated one, it's more likely they're just two languages which happen to be similar in grammar
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>>136133588
Damned Altaic speakers.

I would say Korean sentence structure is 95% interchangeable with Japanese though, the only difference being words.
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>>136133912
That's what I learned too. Prof had a sentence in both languages and everything was basically the saem.
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>>136133850
Both Turkish and Japanese put the verb at the end, as opposed to English which puts it in the middle.

Other than that, I don't know what other similarities they have
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>>136134083
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_Japonic_languages#Altaic_hypothesis
Enough to have a hypothesis it seems.
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>>136133377
>reading Japanese
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>>136133850
>>136133900
A lot of weird stuff managed to pass across that stretch of the world, like those Greek gods being used as the design basis for Fujin and Raijin. Who knows what else made it across.
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>>136133912
Altaic theory is not widely regarded as accurate any longer

Korean and Japanese may be related far back, but nothing firm

Japanese most likely originated on the Korean peninsula but as a separate language. The vocabulary between the two languages outside of shared Chinese loanwords is vastly different however. It's more likely similarities in grammar are due to close proximity to each other during development.
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>>136134206
Yea I've heard Japanese grammar is pretty much a simplified version of Korean grammar.
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>>136131183

Holy shit, I've long since learned both and I never knew this little tidbit.
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>>136129363
>taking the main character seat
>in college
Sure, if you want to looks like a slacker or be perpetually late.
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>>136134374
Fucking how? Every resource I've come across refers to them as kana.
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>>136134535

I just thought it was an abbreviation of katakana. Used realkana too. The name makes way more sense now though.
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>>136130946
This is common. For Chinese teachers, you refer to them in a similar way to Japanese, just with lǎo shī instead of sensei.
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>>136133850
Turks of Turkey weren't always where they are now; the first accepted Turkish literary example is an inscription monument situated in pic related for example. It's probable that the two languages had some mingling in their birth phase.
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>no keit-ai
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>>136134837
I'm more surprised by the lack of Namasensei
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>>136130082
I don't think there were any "stereotypical" weebs but there was this really big dude last semester who had a clannad pic in the cover of his binder
I think I saw him playing it on his laptop one time too
Pretty sure it was clannad, at least. Never got a good look
There's also a few people with merch
There's a guy with soul eater shirts and a girl with a haruhi keychain and she's actually really pretty and thin instead of the typical blue-haired hambeast that you'd expect
We're down to about 10 people now. Most of the low-powerlevels dropped out within the first month or two.
I'd say our class has been kinda filtered out and honestly isn't really cringy and weebish
But yeah everyone's pretty chill and doesn't talk about animu all the time

>>136130361
Our teacher actually prefers that everyone calls her sensei, considering she's japanese


Just in case any of you guys are on here:上を向いて歩こう
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>>136134716
So, Turks and Japs are both Mongols?
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>>136128996
Damn, that's some serious autism. I'd honestly ask your teacher about the reason of such an outburst.
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>>136130142
>>136134837
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>>136129474
What type of mustache?
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>>136133377
I'm find that I'm better at reading than listening, mainly because I can read at my own pace, where as I often get loss in all the words when trying to listen to the language.
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>>136134837
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Let's watch some Japanese morning tv

http://wilsonjj.me/jptv/
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>>136135165
wasn't expecting that one
never trust gifs
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>>136135025
It's theorized Japanese people are a mixture of early migrants from the tip of the Korean peninsula and native inhabitants who had been there even longer, though compared to now both had been there for a pretty long time.

Ainu were the earlier inhabitants, but were mostly replaced wholesale in the southern parts of Japan, but became more mixed and only basically disappeared recently in the more northern parts of Japan. This is why people from Japan, and especially the northern parts of Japan, can often grow full fluffy beards, while most east Asians cannot. Because Ainu had strong beard genetics
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>>136134837
inb4 fanfic
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>>136135264
That rakugo performer looked like Benicio Del Toro
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>>136135264
>http://wilsonjj.me/jptv/
man this segment about VR sucks.
Also why the fuck is elmo there? And how is pamyu pamyu hard to say?
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>>136134837
Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
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so why doesnt japan used romanized writing yet?
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>>136134983
Wait. You really think people don't know one of the most popular Japanese songs of all time?
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>>136135766
Too many homonyms
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>>136130142
>>136134837
>Keit-ai
>implying you could write that in Japanese
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>>136135721
Japanese television is just mind-numbingly awful.

Until you get addicted to programs in which people just walk around town going into cafes and having a lovely time, which makes up 70% of all programming
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>>136135904
Depends on what you're watching.
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>>136129600
no, he is a lolicon 100% confirmed
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>>136128996
Cardcaptor Sakura is the shit, but in all honest there should be more variety unless it's a class specifically for shoujo manga.
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>>136135810
No, it's just that our teacher showed it to us this week. I just tried to think of something someone from our class might get and went with that since she showed us all recently.
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>>136135826
what is too many, english has a lot as well but in context its not ambiguous
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>>136135904
being familiar with Filipino variety shows, I know the basics of how generally awful Asian TV is to outsiders (not that Western is TV better) but I like to think that there are people in all cultures who can recognize how cringe inducing some of these segments are.

I used to like Gamecenter CX, which was like going to cafe and having a lovely time, only it was a dagashiya or arcade.

At least the ads can be fun.

>>136135994
Exceptions will happen, universally, most of it will suck.
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>>136135397
this
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>>136128996
>literally paying thousands of dollars to read manga
What a waste of money.
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>>136136286
I call it mind-numbingly awful, but I actually quite like it, It's endearing. I sometimes watch Chinese tv too which manages to be even worse.

I find it all fascinating.
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>>136135397
>come to /a/ and learn more history than /his/

neat
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>>136136124
>he
There's your problem. Only people you should ever learn Japanese from are Japanese mothers in their mid 40's with really heavy accents and smiles at everything.
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>>136135766
Why doesn't English reformat it's spelling to reflect modern pronunciations?

Because if future generations learn a new system of writing, all the centuries worth of literature in that language would be inaccessible to them. The government could effectively control what the people know about its nation's history, which is exactly why the PRC implemented its simplified form: not to increase literacy but to control all knowledge.
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>>136136286
Gamecenter CX is pretty good, though, especially compared to all the other daytime TV in Japan.
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>>136136286
>Exceptions will happen, universally, most of it will suck.

The same could be said of any medium.
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>>136134837
>>>/reddit/
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>>136134837
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>>136134167
You have the blame the Chinese for that, and ancient japan for adapting the chink language into their own I suppose.
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>>136128996

>required readings

This is not how COMPELLING CONTENT works. If you don't like what you're reading, you're not going to care, and the work is going to be low-resonance.

When are language classes going to stop trying to shove a square block into a triangle-shaped hole and learn that you can't approach teaching a foreign language by railroading the student? The first semester should shoot to get through kana, a grammar guide, and get you started on vocabulary and kanji using anki. That's extremely lenient for four months of study. After that, it should basically function as a study hall, where you read what you want to read and listen to what you want to listen to, and come to the teacher with any questions. The only real structure should come from anki. Use something along the lines of the J-CAT to test that they're making progress. I can guarantee you that the class will become redundant long before four years are up, on account of the fact that even the slower students become fluent within their first 2-3 years.
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>>136135904
>people just walk around town going into cafes and having a lovely time, which makes up 70% of all programming
>still watching
>It's true
Jesus hell. It's probably worth to keep this stuff on for practice, but I'm beginning to really wonder if this is okay for my sanity.

Are these girls going bulimic between shops?
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>>136138343
This course isn't actually a course on the language though.
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>>136128996
It's okay anon, there's boobs in I think the third volume of Absolute Boyfriend
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>Always tell myself that learning a second language is admirable no matter the reason
>Want to learn Nip but still painfully embarrassed I'd have to be upfront about it with family and friends, who'd assume I'm doing it for the anime/manga (which is a part of it, but I do really like Asian culture, cuisine, etc.)
>Did around four months of reps a few years ago and have retained almost nothing, but still kinda recognize shit and can barely read kana
>Been wanting to pick it back up again, but college offers nothing
>I'll never truly master Japanese until I've victoriously studied for at least two or three years on my own and lived/visited there for at least a year or two
>You'd end up spilling spaghetti to every native person there as you fumble in broken speech anyway, presumably while red faced and stammering (I don't do well when embarrassed)
>tfw you want to be cultured but being cultured means endless struggling
One day... One day
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>>136130276
This is highly unusual, but my first Jap class only had four or five out of thirty people drop it. Our prof put off hiragana until after the add-drop period so it would look bad if you left the class mid-semester. That doesn't mean he's teaching it correctly however.
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>>136128996
>Paradise Kiss
The anime has fantastic OP/ED.
Imaishi animated the ED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuccKeDW8i4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgMAKuJIkmc
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>>136138730
>can barely read kana
>four months
How? I spent like two days and I can read them all
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>>136138845
Its been three years since I last studied, so even though I see them somewhat regularly I'll naturally become rusty.

I couldn't read kata at all before though, but thats because I didn't prioritize it while learning kanji, since all I'd have to read is the furigana
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>>136134891
くいて ぐいで ぬむぶんで うつるって すして
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>>136138958
The true hard part of learning japanese is trying to decipher what english word is katakana trying to spell.
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>>136138730
>Always tell myself that learning a second language is admirable no matter the reason
>Want to learn Nip but still painfully embarrassed I'd have to be upfront about it with family and friends, who'd assume I'm doing it

Are you me
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>>136135264
Thanks for this. What channel is this?
>that bus crash
oh shit
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Never forget.
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>>136139451
Drink beer.
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Biggest problem I have is no one to speak with or write to. There's infinite media for listening/reading the language, but you want to practise all four skills.
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>>136128996
Bull

Fucking

Shit
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>>136139636
That was a fun thread
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>>136135264
Anyway to turn CC on for this?
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>>136139788
lang-8.com
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>>136129282
You don't take college language courses to learn a language.
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>>136139788
HelloTalk for chatting and calls. It's free.
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>>136130276
>>136130341
>tfw got a 100 on my Japanese I final & an A (there is no A+ here) in the class
>tfw not going to take Japanese II
Sensei & half my class will be like, "He was so good at it, why didn't he keep going??"

Japanese is so easy.
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>>136135264
Terrorists?
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>>136134837
>>136130142
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>not taking a course on Naruto
http://www.decal.org/courses/3659
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How do I into grammar? I'm kinda stuck on my learning, I'm about 200 cards in a kanji deck but I don't understand grammar for shit. Should I just do core 6k? I haven't done core 6k reps in a while and don't feel like going through the hundreds of reviews I'll have to do.
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>people wanting to take Japanese classes

I recommend against it. The first two years are snail paced, and the methods used throughout are extremely counter-intuitive.

This is something that boggles my mind. Everybody knows that language classes produce failures who never learn the language beyond a superficial level by the truckload. This is true whether you're talking about immigrants learning the local tongue or people studying in their home country. Yet, people still believe that if you want to learn a language, you should go to class.

>What should I do, then?

Look up Tae Kim, which you will be powering through
Look up RealKana, which you will be completing over the next week, max
Download anki
Grab Core 6k from our own DJT topics
If you want, grab the RTK or KanjiDamage deck (I recommend turning these into writing practice)
When you have maybe 2k words or so, start reading; you can use dictionary tools like Chiitrans Lite for games or KanjiTomo for manga
Grab Dictionary of Japanese grammar for grammar that you don't understand

Move along at a good pace, and you'll be running circles around 4th year graduates before 2016 is up. I guarantee it.
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>>136134983
That seems interesting at least. My class was entirely chinese except for one white girl who tumblrs video game pictures.

Only saw degenerates in third year, fujo twins and a guy who looked exactly like the guy who bought the videogame with the bib.

All the fobs were just there for easy marks.
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>tfw finishing second year Japanese
>weekly interviews
>weekly vocab tests are more like kanji tests
>almost entirely chinese and japanese people left not like there are many in the class anyways
Japanese class isn't fun anymore. Even watching comedy shows as a class makes me feel like I'm dying inside.
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Another issue is correct pronunciation and inflection. Whenever I hear those foreign characters in anime say ARIgaTOOgoZAI MAASSUUUUU I always laugh but then I look at myself trying to pronounce shit I realize why its a stereotype
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>>136138343
>class will become redundant long before the four years are up
Missing the point of private education, goy.
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>>136140232
Japanese is very unstressed as a language, it's got subtle high and low pitches only. Meanwhile in English stress and the length of sounds changes meaning entirely, so native English speakers tend to overstress Japanese a whole lot.
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Is Nama-sansei /a/ approved?
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You faggots should just use your loans and go spend a semester or summer in Japan taking some japanese.
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>>136140232
Thank god my first language is phonetic. Pronouncing stuff in japanese doesn't feel so awkward.
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>>136128996
>reading translated manga for a language class
Why though
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>>136129458
>I want to post Inigo Montoya, but I don't think you'd even know what that means.
wew lad
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>>136140448
It's not a language class though. My university has a lot of non-language classes in the Japanese department like Japanese history and Japanese cuisine and shit.
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>>136140263
My university is public, but they still make us pay ridiculous tuition because apparently tax dollars aren't enough to keep up the dean's 6-digit salary.
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Same, but
>tfw prof says I sound whiny/gay
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>>136140568
Literally every prof makes 6 figures if they take administrative tasks.
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>>136140766
Go visit shinjuku ni-chome
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>>136140766
Just stop sicking cocks then.
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>>136140369
Nama-sensei is good for getting the basics, but you'll need to unlearn some of his terrible hand-writing.

Most importantly, he's really good at motivating you, which people really overlook in teaching, but motivation is a key component in learning and remembering just about anything.
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>>136141156

Being too obsessed with motivation is an extremely common quality of half-baked failures.

There are two things that you need for motivation: You need to believe that you're going to make it, and your end goal needs to be important to you. Oh, and you need to see the fruits of your labor, but if you're not slacking off, this won't be a problem.

Once you have those, it's a matter of discipline, AKA that quality of getting to work even when you're not feeling motivated. It needs to become something of a routine, like taking a shower and brushing your teeth.
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>>136138845
>2 Days

How the fuck? took me like a week to remember them all. Even with recognizing some of them previously from anime/manga.
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>>136128996
why the fuck are you reading manga instead of literature?
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>>136131572
and no one believes me when I say that the English department is a joke
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>>136143879

Because nobody cares about Japanese fiction outside of anime subculture.
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>>136131706
like the hiss-hiss python or the def function(**kwargs) python
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>>136144144
>hiss-hiss python
Anon pls. The programming language one
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>>136128996
more like weeaboo 101
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>>136144171
there is a 3 credit class about the hiss-hiss pythons in my uni
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>>136144174
My highschool life was weeaboo 101.
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>>136131346
Bird courses are necessary when your major courses have autistic profs. The japanese culture class at our school is just eating Japanese snacks and watching videos.
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>>136144201
>>136144399
>birds
>snakes
What else?
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>>136144115
embarrassing 2bh
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Is this a school in Tennessee?
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>>136140112
>Everybody knows that language classes produce failures who never learn the language beyond a superficial level by the truckload
I mean, I won't deny the vast majority of my classmates in French class ended up like that, but I'm fairly adept at reading, writing and listening to French now after 5 years of it in high school/middle school.
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>>136128996
Needs Henreader and Maeshima Ryo.
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By the fourth semester of Japanese at my school, students had dropped from two full classes of 25+ to less than a dozen. I think me and the fujo I sat next to were the only weebs left, but the first couple had all the fat annoying faggots.
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>>136128996
Absolute shit made by a weeb who cant move past 1995.
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>>136128996
I'm surprised your 300-level Jap courses have required readings, I don't think any of the 300-level Jap students at my uni are even capable of reading Yotsubato.
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>>136133085
>memorize all the kanji
Do nips even remember all of them?
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>>136146974
Your average nip can read 5000 and write 2000. There are something like 80000-100000 Chinese characters in existence.
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>>136147043
What a stupid language.
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>>136134384
> sitting in rows
> having class sizes over 15
> not having round table discussions of the Romantic era themes of Sailor Moon
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>>136147065
Whining about it won't help you read raws. Nothing to do but buckle down and grind that shit.
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>>136129458
>shoujoshit
>fujoshit
When will this meme die?
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I took a meme japanese culture class once
I read train man, naomi, and devotion of suspect x. how meme are these books?
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>>136129363
the MC seat in my meme class was too far from the door so I usually didn't go for it, just a couple times

room was also way wider than it was long, there were only 3 rows and about 10 columns, long walk, and not sure whether row 2 or 3 was MC seat
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>>136147604
>triple posting
forgot to mention, I took the class in spring and there were some cherry blossom trees visible through the window from the MC seat, so it was a truly authentic experience
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>>136146974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNxPRBvRQg
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Kenshin is really the only thing worth reading on that list.
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>>136128996
>taking japanese in college
Why would anyone do this. I live in the eastern hemisphere, is this normal to you filthy muricans?
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>>136148348
Perhaps because someone is interested in learning Japanese? and simply isn't aware there are easier ways of doing so?
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I took Japanese for depth and bredth requirements for my CS bachelors. I skipped straight to 201.

> Catching up was easy, but took a bit of time, mostly for vocab.
> Kanji was easy to memorize, but took some time every day.
> Grammar wasn't too terribly difficult.
> Speaking in an actual conversation was fucking impossible.

So basically I failed the oral test and did decent on everything else. Low 80s, such is life. Took 202 only for the same thing to happen. 301 was focused on conversation so I dropped it.

Fucking sentences, how do they work?
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>>136148348
if you're interested in the language anyway then it's just free credits
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>>136149193
>Speaking in an actual conversation was fucking impossible.
>301 was focused on conversation so I dropped it.

I don't get it.
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>>136128996
I just don't understand why is this garbage on /a/. Go to /soc/ or reddit.
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I took JAP-113 and got a D in it.

>Had to take some filler class so I had this just to fill in some gap
>Never did the Homework
>Did okay on exams
>Always got yelled at for not doing the HW but never had the time to do HW due to my other 3 classes raping me. The language isn't hard, I just can't dedicate enough time to it and I didn't want to lose sleep over a filler course.

At least I can read moon outside of Kanji.
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>>136149639
>At least I can read moon outside of Kanji.
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>>136149639
>At least I can read moon outside of Kanji.
That literally means nothing.
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>>136149639
Kanji isn't that hard once you start memorizing the most frequent ones. I fucking actually jumped for joy when I encountered 勉強する in some doujin, my textbook studies were finally beginning to produce results. Though to be honest I wouldn't have recognized it without the character sitting right there studying while saying it.

Start with the easier kanji to learn. 日 is a sun and thus also a day, 月 is a moon and thus also a month. 目 is an eye, and doesn't it look like an eye? And this kanji, 見, looks like an eye on legs. Something whose sole function is to see. And sure enough 見る means "to see", and 見える means "to show". You might have guessed my primary source for studying Japanese has been exhibitionism doujins.
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>>136150386
How long did it take for you to get to your current level in reading moon?
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>>136148821
>>136149523
The notion of taking language class in college is really alien to me -unless you're a nip lit student or something-.
Even for us in the east, at least we take relevant subjects for our easy credit modules.

and you don't need introductory nip lessons if you're a weeb with enough exposure since it should be 2nd nature. College people who are really interested in nipponese should learn the equivalent of JLPTN2 and above, keigo course, and stuffs that actually helps for business
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>>136128996
Absolute Boyfriend is absolute shit.

I think all of /a/ could do to read Cardcaptor Sakura and Rurouni Kenshin though.
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>having to read shoujoshit for a class
I would drop out if I were you.
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>>136131572
Fucking humanities.
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>>136134837
FIND OY VEY
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Should I learn a decent chunk of vocab before doing the grammar?
Or should I start grammar while doing vocab?
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>>136151248
Dont bother with advanced vocab like say, Presidential Candidate, Mail Subscriptions, Chartered Accountant, etc.

Just settle with shit that you'll use in daily conversation and stuffs that you hear in your chinese cartoon and song lyrics.
Jump to grammar afterwards, enough to cover basic structures and maintain conversation.
Then jump straight into conversations and practical application, preferably with a native, ask them about difficult vocab, that's the fastest way to get better in nipponese.

If you focus too much on grammar you'll end up like nips themselves and their terrible english.
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>>136151610
Thanks m8. I guess I will just hit up interpals and see what I can get after the basics.
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>>136150562
I mean, it's been a lifetime of priming by having a complete weeaboo as a father, but I only started making serious efforts to learn maybe a year ago.
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>>136150562
I forgot to add something.

I haven't actually tried it yet because I couldn't be bothered to, but I imagine it would help your vocabulary and kanji recognition a lot to read some raws (if any exist; again, I haven't checked) of Shounen Jump or other such publications for young people. When I visited Japan and flipped through one (and didn't buy it for some stupid reason) everything seemed to have furigana attached to it.
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>>136152180
>weaboo as a father
I would kill myself having to come home to that household.
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>>136151864
That's just an expressway to be a fluent speaker without formal studies and coughing up as little coins as possible.
If you really want to be good at the language, you still need intense courses.

I can maintain lengthy conversations in izakaya and bars, but I'm illiterate and can't read past nip games-level stuffs.
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>>136139636
Can someone please upload the video?.
I still remember the cringe to this date.
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>>136139960
>Japanese I
>Japanese is so easy
This just makes you look stupid tbqh.
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Is JP 321 a weeb elective or a required class for JP Lit major?
Because I majored in JP and CH Linguistics and I wasn't required to read a single manga.
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>>136150386
>And sure enough 見る means "to see", and 見える means "to show"
見える means "able to see"
見せる means "to show"
you tried
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>>136139600
i find it amusing, one of the things i do during anki reps when encountering new katakana word is to read it out loud and try to guess what they meant by it.
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>>136153666
Thanks Satan.
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>>136154995
You're satan for trying to convince people reading manga is a good way to learn grammar from scratch.
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>>136138343
>After that, it should basically function as a study hall, where you read what you want to read and listen to what you want to listen to
Not everyone has that kind of drive.
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OP must go to a community college if their JLit321 reads manga instead of poems and novels.
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>>136148821
>spoiler
Now you really have to explain further
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>>136155901
The only way easier than a uni class is immersion.
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