Jets and stuff

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I need a good plane anime to watch.

>>136108160
Its pretty niche and no toys to sell, why would anyone take the risk to make a CGI one much less draw it.
Also pilots with helmet and mask doesn't help in showing expressions.

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>>136108366
Oh and I'm quite sure you have to pay for license to include non Slav planes.
Just go watch Sky crawlers, Yukikaze or wait for Macross Delta.

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>>136108535
Where's a good place to start watching Macross stuff?

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>>136108160
Because robots are cooler than jets

>>136108160
isn't a new Plane Movie coming this year?

I forgot its name but last year everyone seemed hyped as fuck

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>>136108555
Don't mind the idols/music/silly stuff: Start from the first.
Just in for the dogfight: Macross Plus

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>>136108160
>ace combat anime never
;_;

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>>136108695
W-what if I want an air superiority harem?

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>>136108759
>Ace Combat 7
I believe.

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>>136108871
>air superiority harem?
No such thing.
Unless you count Yukikaze's AI that can jack planes as a harem due to multiple bodies.

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>>136108927

You been living under a rock, anon?

>>136108871
Strke witches

>>136108160
I've always thought that AC0's took a decent amount of inspiration from Area 88. You should go watch/read A88 if you haven't already, it's not great but it's as good as it gets.

I'd love more plane anime, preferably stuff that's actually somewhat serious and realistic instead of crazy sci-fi or a plane equivalent of GuP.

Also, on a tangent, why are there so few car anime? You've got Initial D and Wangan Midnight, which are melodramatic street racing bullshit, and Capeta, which is pretty much shounen trash. I'd love to see a series about rally or GT racing.

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>>136109445
No I'm saying since we get
>Ace Combat 7
we might also get
>Ace Combat anime

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>>136109761

The Shirobaco OVA (Third Aerial Girls Squad) is great.
>It kind of annoys me that the only way to get one made seems to be making planes into little girls
You are some huge faggot aren't you, there's a whole franchise about transforming space jets.

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>>136108927
That's a game not an anime and even if you post best idolmaster I want idols to go and stay go, other wise it will be a monstrosity like macross delta

Just watch real robot mecha anon, it's the same thing.

>>136108535
>Just go watch Sky crawlers
Why do retards recommend this piece of shit?

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>>136110097
>This is basically an F-15

>>136110120
Explain further, angry kid

>>136110072
>other wise it will be a monstrosity like macross delta
Why don't you fuck off back to /v/ or reddit, this obviously isn't a place for gay fags like you.

>>136110097
Whats the matter?
2 deep 4 u

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>>136110163
you seem upset

>>136110161
Nah, it's a great movie with great dogfights and lots of action, you should definitely watch it.

>>136110129
>using an F-15 for police duty

ok

>>136110120
Just something that comes to my mind when I posted that, guess should I have said The Pilot's Love Song or Last Exile: Silver Wing or something.

>>136110233
>Purpose built to deal with the theoretical capabilities of the very best that can be thrown at it
>Is an incredible advancement over the previous best in its field and second to none in combat against other labors
>Even as it ages is improved with block upgrades that keep it well and truly in the fight
>By the end of the series it's superseded by a cheaper and technically more capable labor that is defined by its innovative massively computer-aided controls
>Despite this, it remains the heavy hitter and punches well above its weight many years past when it should've stopped being competitive
Face it, the Ingram is basically the Eagle.

>>136108695
>Just in for the dogfight: Macross Plus
And Macross Zero, if one doesn't mind the hippie stuff in-between fights.

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>>136110072
>not wanting qt plane girls

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We're kinda close this season

>>136110883
Why are Nagases always so best?

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I can't stand any air fight in japanime. It triggers my autism to see missiles which barely can catching up jets/mechas/little girls/spaceships when IRL missiles fly 2 to 4 time faster than their average targets.

>>136109445
>This is how AC5 was promoted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRdMX1VaZA
>This is how they try to hype AC7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk

What went wrong?

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>>136111141
>HISTORIA

>>136110120
People who normally ask for "fight jet-related" anime often come from an ace combat background. Project Aces, the studio that makes ace combat also made the Sky Crawlers game, of which there is also an anime. So there is a very distinctive connection there.

>>136111141
>This is how AC5 was promoted
retarded cringeworthy no sense making trailer like put together by an autist
>This is how they try to hype AC7
cinematic air combat

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>>136111218
>Belkans please go.

>>136111141
20% finished is what

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S1 never

>>136109445
I think he might be talking about Anime cutscenes in the game.
In other words, the Ace Combat 3 we never got.
>>136111141
It's only the reveal trailer anon, give them a chance to E3. If you've been keeping up with the infinity "patches," you'll know they still got their game on.

>>136111215
I'm sure no one ever thinks like that or even knows about the game. Everyone only recommends it because there are planes but probably never watched it.

>>136111240
>tumblr file name

Anon, at least edit your bloody image names. It's like you're begging for some imbecile replies.

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>>136111218

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>>136111319
>I'm sure no one ever thinks like that

I think of it like that.
There's gotta be at least another, or a few.

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>>136111218
>cinematic air combat

>>136111339
If you think AC5 trailer is good then you are retarded.

>>136111260
But they don't even have a unique AC7 riff yet?

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>>136111274
Fuck this shit ;_;

>>136111399
What? You don't think it's cinematic to fire a missile at a target from 40 km away?

>>136111405
But anon, can you TAKE IT ALL AWAY
CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWA-HEY
WHEN YOU SHOVED IT IN MY FACE
EXPLAINING IT TO ME-E?

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>>136111681
Well played.

Does Muv Luv count?

>>136111556
I've watched enough DCS dogfights to know that you could make a realistic one intense and cinematic.

>>136110883
I'd rather like qt women like Nagase and Yellow 4

>>136111994
Which Nagase, though?

>>136112021
All of them, save for edgy Nagase from Infinity

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>>136111141
Zero best railer. Zero best song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCRRH1DMpPM

>>136111141
>AC5
dont really know whats going on but intensity is there and seems to have plot

>AC7
i have no fucking clue whats going on. also announcement trailer? so there will be a proper one for it later on

>>136114911
my nigga. truly the best and also the OST is beast. especially when engaging enemy ACE

>>136115028
IT'S A FUCKING SPACE ELEVATOR
GET READY TO RIDE INSIDE IT WHILE ASTEROIDS ARE BOMBARDING IT AND THE FINAL BOSS SHOOTING BEHIND YOU

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>>136108160
Best kawamori design ever...

>>136115076
Enemy ace squadrons are one of the best things in Zero. Especially those intros.

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>>136108160
Chairforce here

Because there hasn't been any actual air superiority campaigns in decades, anon. An anime about modern jet fighters would just incite nonstop shitposting about the F-35.

Real talk, aerial combat has simply faded from people's minds and not of interest to anyone. Even Western media doesn't have much interest in it anymore. Hell, the USAF is slowly moving from its heydays of fighters and focusing its doctrine on global mobility.

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Ace Combat 5 animu when?

>>136114911
Everything is better with flamenco guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJsAK9NU6Pg

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Girls und Jets when?

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>>136114911
>"Did you know, there are three kinds of Aces"
>That cut into PROJECT ACES
>The ace editing, everything syncing to the music
>Introduction of the main Aces, synced perfectly to the guitars
>that guitar buildup that doesn't end
>Music stops
>"It was a cold and snowy day"
>Title drop, music blasts into crescendo
>mfw

One of the best fucking trailers ever holy shit. Whoever fucking edited this is a god. It's impossible not to get hype watching it.

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>>136111078
>Not going fast
Macross actually has a rather valid reason for missiles not catching up.
Their fighters have retardedly high thrust-weight ratios and they got G-dampening equipment.

>>136116060
Ace combat gets away with it by taking place in a fictional "parallel" world though. Once it even went futuristic.

It could be done, but not in a traditional setting.

>>136116060
Man, I can't wait for someone to invent some sort of Minovsky-type shit that makes that kind of shit mandatory again.

War as it is now is pretty dull.

>>136116305
Sukhoi a shit

>>136117063
>Once it even went futuristic.
>superweapons and giant airborne super carriers in just about every game
"Once"

>>136117181
>implying war is ever exciting
Logistics is not a fun subject, believe me. There's more to military operations than pew-pew and cool hardware.

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>>136108160
Most Jap animator know jackshit about aircraft or aerial combat, so even if it make into anime, probably gonna be horseshit anyway

>>136116060 #
You mean like advanced ecm and stealth for radar guided missiles and lasers to burn out heat seakers' sensors?

How about basic fog of war? Everyone's working on a way to jam long range coms and hack into drones. Aerial knife fights are inevitable.

Considering the success of Strike Witches, Girls und Panzer, and Kantai Collection, I'd be surprised if we didn't see a cute-girls-as-modern-jet-fighters anime

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>>136114911
>>136116636
mah buddies

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>>136120418

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If there is ever an Ace Combat anime, we all know best Belka will be in it.

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This is a F-4 Phantom.

>>136119419
is this supposed to be like magic arrows or something, or just shit writing?

a longbow can't shoot even 200m straight up, so all the choppers would have to do is engage with a little altitude advantage and laugh at the archers.

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>>136108160
Talking about an anime adaptation of ace combat using AC 5 or Zero instead of the vastly superior electrosphere only shows how much of a newfag pleb with shit taste you are

Ace combat 4 mobius 1 a best

>>136124068
But it was already an anime

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long live Belka

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I want this more than anything else.

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Derailing thread discussion now.

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>>136124314

>>136124130
It was awesome how all the storylines were inter winded with the missions in the game,The concept and story telling of AC3 was ahead of its time.

>>136124314
So we are posting crap now? Every military analyst not lobbying with Lockheed Martin say it is a hugely expensive pile of crap which will fail to meet the expectations placed on it as a dominant weapon system for the foreseeable future

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>>136124314
>>136124393

A CUTE

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>>136119419
>>136123746
I've got you covered

>>136124775
>military analysts in charge of anything.

Yes it's a money pit, but it's a well made, extremely effective money pit F-22-chan is still my waifu though

>>136124775
>>136124858

>I had a guaranteed military sale with ED 209 renovation program, spare parts for twenty-five years... Who cares if it worked or not?

F-35 in a nutshell

>>136124858
>well made, extremely effective
Okey dokey, If you say so, I will believe you, after all between dozens of known military analysts from a dozen different countries and some random anon on /a/ it is obvious whose opinion is fact.

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>>136124858
f-22 a shit. why did best plane yf-23 never get to live?

>>136124937
I believe at some point the pentagon said it was a cluster fuck but it was too big and expensive to let it fail, so grin , take it and pray that the US never need to use it.

>>136125015
Dozens of different very salty military analysts.

People said the F-22 was going to be vaporware, or be shit, etc. and look, best air superiority fighter in the world. The only valid criticism right now in my opinion is how horrendously over budget it is, but even that seems to be par for the course.

>>136125163
Because she was too good for this world

;_;

>>136125196
>best air superiority fighter in the world

LM shill pls go

>>136108160
Jets: Stratos 4, 801 TTS Airbats, and Area 88.

Fantasy aircraft: Cluster Edge, Last Exile, Simoun, Wings of Honymayonaise (can't spell the name), and Yukikaze.

Turboprops: Allison and Lilia, Pilot's Love Song, Princess and the Pilot, Porco Rosso, The Cockpit, Sky Crawlers, and one or two others I cannot remember the names of.

>>136125380
The base problem is that those are movies or OVA's not a dedicated series

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>>136125163
>>136125274
more lewd shots...

>>136125196
It is cool bro, you like your F-35 , nothing wrong with that, Just so you know the very same analysts praised the F-22 capabilities and performance, they just dont want their countries to spend their defense budget on toys which wont meet the promised standard

>>136125432
2lewd

>>136125166
You know, everybody said the exact same thing about the F-16.

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Too many fighters in this thread. Bosting Best bomber butt

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>>136125502
Yeah because there was going to be a VTOL version of the F-16 and it was going to replace the A-10 too

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>>136125553
>mfw watching footage of the Russian strategic bombers fucking over ISIS

Why can't America be this based?

>>136125502
You know, unlike the F-16, the F-35 is the most expensive weapons system ever created, but the end product is average, does that make sense to you?

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>>136125553
I'll catch you
The ass was fat

>>136125639
>but the end product is average
>end product

It's not even done yet you cuck.

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>>136125553
>Dat ass
Good lord.

>>136125681
Of course not, It will never be, keep piling up the bills boys, ha ha dumbass

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post your plane-u

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>>136125553
disgusting lumps of fat.
Now this, this is a toned and sculpted ass

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>>136125553
>>136125660

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>>136125764
k

Unsung War seems hard to animate when you are supposed to be self-inserting as Blaze with Nagase devoting herself to you and you never even see his face.

Also, since it's her birthday as well:
>>136111174
>HISTOOOORIA

>>136125627
Obama doesn't want to drop bombs on his own people.

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>>136125828
Bone-chan you're just butthurt because you had you top speed gimped and you can't break Mach 2 anymore.

>>136125660
I believe the MIG-25 was the Valkyrie interceptor since it performed better at high altitudes , the MIG-31 was a foxbat redesign to catch low flying hyper sonic targets, like the B-1 and cruise missiles

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>>136125764

How's my cliche taste?

>>136126009
Some of Bone-chan's siblings also lost nuclear capability too. While her Russian cousins are gearing up to be able to carry more nuclear missiles as needed.

We need Valkyrie back. Preferably as a modern supersonic bomber.

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>>136126063
Komet > Swallow

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>>136125764
Gripen a cutie

>>136126110

Komet is beautiful too in a stout, self-destructing way.

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>>136125764

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>>136126063
The sexiest.

>>136126110
Its all fun and games with the komet until you run out of fuel, have fun gliding unpowered back to base

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>>136125432
muh dick status: diamonds
>>136125553
> das ass
>>136125660
>>136125850
sexy, but every smart boy knows to stay away from Russian girls
>>136125828
definition of sexy tomboy
>>136126009
posting ayy lmao tech should not count

enough of all the PG-rated shit guys.
> pls don't ban me, mods

>>136126259
you sick fuck

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>>136126187

Or if the fuel/engine spontaneously combust and you fall to the ground in pieces. Either way.

Also, am I the only one who finds early MiGs beautiful? Fargo, Fagot, Fresco, Farmer, and beautiful Balalaika/Fishbed are all wonderful.

>>136125639
You realize the F-16 was a piece of shit for the first few years in service? All it could do was glare at heavy bombers with 2 sidewinders until they started tacking on more capability.

Let's not also forget the F-16 was rushed into production so quickly we were literally losing 20 a year due to crashes.

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>>136126259
>>136126292
you pussies. here's some shit that's not even legal to look at in 'Straya and the U.K.

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>>136126259
Is this gore?

>>136125848

>>136124314
Congrats on turning this into a typical /k/ plane thread.

>>136126386

I personally think that if we get over the fact that F-35s can't dogfight, used in tandem with F-22s the whole could be greater than the sum of the parts.

The people who shit on the Lightning II in online discussions usually have about a much to back their argument as people who try to defend it.

>>136126526
F-35s CAN dogfight, they just aren't as good at it as planes specifically designed to make tight turns. Modern HOBS missiles largely make dogfighting irrelevant anyways.

>>136108181
Area 88 OVA.

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>tfw no robit death loli

>>136126386
And you realize every major weapon system has a period after introduction during which flaws are identified and resolved, details and hiccups ironed out, taking anything from months to years? What is your point?

>>136126761
Probably that saying that the F-35 is shit before it has even been finished is fucking retarded?

>>136119419
source?

>>136124786
>dat face
A SLUT

>>136126633
Another thing to keep in mind is that whoever sees the other guy first has a major advantage. The F-35 will almost always see the other guy first. It's not on the level of the Raptor but it's still stealth and it's got some really good avionics.

>>136126653
at least when President Shillary drones me for not supporting transfurrynecrosexual marriage, my death will come from a objectively beautiful machine.

>>136126633
No, it cant, there have been several simulations and projections based around the F-35 capabilities and those of their most likely adversaries(4.5 gen jets) in specific battle situations, when operating without F-22 escort the casualty rate is very high for the F-35

Why's there no full adaptation of Area 88? People would love to buy the Ryoko figures and Shin and Mickey's plane models. The story itself is quite good, the character design is not usual.
This thing would sell good, but no, let's make more cheap harem magic school ranobe adaptations.

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Translations continue never

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Guess whos retirement is cancelled?

>>136126793
It is shit because is the MOST expensive weapon program EVER and it will NOT produce anything more than a run of the mill multirole aircraft, holy shit son, have you shit for brains or what?

>>136127094
>it will NOT produce anything more than a run of the mill multirole aircraft
Source: your ass

>>136127069
never has there been a plane so hated by airforce brass yet so loved by grunts.

I can kind of see how objectively drones or even jsfs might be more cost effective or quicker to the scene for ground support, but half the half the point of the warthog must be just lording it over your enemies that you can fly stupidly big autocanons around to terrorize them

>>136127069

Source? When was it expended to retire?

>>136124853
>that guy that just runs straight in and lays down in the fire

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>>136127069
So how long until we stuff stealth on her and more powerful gun for old-fashioned rip and tearing?

>>136127205
it's been on the chopping block like 5+ times over the last 10-15 years, but it keeps getting rolled back due to various reasons.

the warthog is living on borrowed time though.

>>136111215
It had some cool dogfights I guess. And at the end of the day thats what we want

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>>136127269
>Stealth
>Warthog

>>136127315
I know; just wanted to make fun of almost every artist just adding stealth to aircraft that don't need it.

But Warthog does need a bigger gun.

>>136109761
>Forgetting the Redline anime movie as one of the best car racing things ever animated

>>136111141
>This is how AC5 was promoted
First half of the trailer is ok, cinematics mixed up with the AC radio chatter we know and love. Then it devolves into shit with the addition of a shitty rock band

>This is how they try to hype AC7
There's a reason it's called an "Announcement" trailer, and that is that this is a teaser, we'll probably get another proper trailler somewhere around E3

>>136114911
>>136116636
My favorite AC, just because it's literally built around dogfight duels. And that goddamn trailer just sells the everloving fuck out of it.

>>136126440
>"The Ocho"

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>>136127069
I love you A-10 chan!

>>136127315
it's absolute shit against radar, which isn't really even an option given all the ordinance strung out on its bottom, but it was actually bretty gud against IR due to high-bypass engines and horizontal stabilizers hiding the exhaust plumes.

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>>136127269

4200rpm of 30mm stealth.

>>136127269
Why would need a more powerful gun? The GAU-8 is more then enough for anything you're going to be shooting. Any hard target like a tank will be dealt with via missile.

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I miss the times when completely ridiculous ideas for future aircraft were common.

All the latest aircraft are all too similar to each other, with a few being literal copy/paste/edits. Which leads me back to wanting more anime and Ace Combat with fantasy jet aircraft.

>>136127415
It's a fucking IR signature with wings that's got a gun and some bombs strapped to it.

I love it

>>136127458
I want to call in a close strike and watch as enemy tanks just melt.

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I hope this buddy's moment to shine tomorrow is done well. I would suck J.C. Staff's dick forever if they do.

>>136127451
Needs more dakka.

Also, that's kawaii as fuck.

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>>136127555

A-10 a cute.

>>136127451
>C-5 wants A-10 inside her
LEWD

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>>136127451

>that pic

I'm in love.

Reality is far more lewd.

>>136127501
but this plane looks just stupid

>>136127513
They're also cheap as fuck.

They're hunks of metal that barely fly capable of making it rain fire and brimstone on the land, what's not to love?

>>136127458
Because I just wanna watch a tank just melt under hot lead like wax in a lava lamp. Missiles just don't give the same joy and watching a lava lamp is boring.

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>>136127660
personal favorite coming through.
not the fastest or sleekest, but very good at what she does...

>>136127700
Not enough gatling ammo.

>>136127513
>It's a fucking IR signature with wings
>>136127700

So long as its enemies are ragheads the anti aircraft threat it faces will be minimal.

Therefor, guns.

>>136127727
Another thing, whose fucking idea was this?
>You know that transport plane over there?
>What if we just stick a fuckton of guns on it.
>Where?
>I don't fucking know just stick them out the side or something.

It's the most American thing ever.

>>136127727
I dunno who first thought up of slapping a howithzer to the side of a AC-130, but that human being better have a spot reserved in heaven for his great contributions to the human race.

>>136127826

Its lineage lies with the AC-47 IIRC.

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>>136127660

J-j-jam in it.

>>136127852
>I dunno who first thought up of slapping a howithzer to the side of a AC-130

Pretty sure they thought of slapping a howitzer to the side of a C-130 and called it an AC-130.

>>136127856

>Matryoshkadolls.jg

>>136125828
Nah, B-1 got dem curves.

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>>136125553

Triangles are the best.

>>136127856
What is that monster?

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>>136127856

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>No love for the best transport
These things are the best to work with. C-5s break too often being the old fat whales they are, and C-130s are weak with a capacity of only six pallets.

>>136128071

A C-130 being crammed into a C-5 Galaxy.

>>136127727
> hmm, artillery is nice, but sometimes it takes too long putting it where you want
> and sometimes you can't always get the elevation advantage you want
> hmm, let's stick some on the side of a cargo plane and fly it in circles above wherever
> fuck it, we'll put a vulcan canon on there too for good measure

this thing is like Peanut Butter and Chocolate, The Plane.

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>>136125764

>>136128296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwpn14IE7E

>>136128159

The bear near me made the switch from C-5s to C-17s a few years back, and I'm sure it was a smart move.

That said, I really miss seeing C-5s in the air. Maybe I'm weird for thinking that their wailing banshee engines were cool rather than annoying.

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>>136128260

Sticking stupid shit on to planes is an old tradition.

>>136128071
>>136128216
It's certainly possible. The entire weight of the C-130's airframe isn't even a third of a C-5's ACL,

>>136128338
>The bear near

Holy fuck how did I type that?

The base near me*

>>136128338
>Maybe I'm weird for thinking that their wailing banshee engines
They were annoying as shit when I went through boot at Lackland. Mainly because it was very tempting to look in the direction of the noise, but you'd get lit the fuck up for looking around by the MTIs.

>>136128338
>>136128378
What base is this?

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What kind of Jet is Kazu?

>>136128619
F18

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>Berserker Intensifies

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ROROROR

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>>136127727
That palne is Angel of Death, Isn't? She's fabulous as fuck, pic related

>>136128929
50 cent poster, you're on the wrong board.

>>136108160
Modern jets are shit.

WW1 and WW2 is where it's at.

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>>136128929
The time sure flies fast.

Five
Fucking
Years

LRIP by 2016
IOC by 2017

>>136127258
That's not fire anon, it's just heat and smoke from the blast.

>>136109761

The F-20 had a unlockable Kazama Shin paintjob. Yeah, the AC0 team watched Area88

>>136114911

The gold standard for vidya hype.

Goddamn.

>>136115998

This. Ace midbosses should've been in every Ace Combat after Zero.

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>>136125380
>Turboprops

>>136127656
She wants the GAU-8 slammed into her.

>>136126944
post source, then

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>>136127069

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>tfw we'll never have cute girls who love cute planes

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>>136114911
>10 years

>>136117295
better than Mikoyan.

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See that space elevator?
You can fly up it

>>136131870
bravo todd

>>136131870
When is more news on AC7?

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>>136108871
In japan air superiority is maintained by magical girls and mecha.

>>136131661
Dumb frogposter.

>>136135505
This fucking movie m8s
>Fate literally pulls a cobra

>>136134137
none so far

>>136127826
That was an American idea born during the Vietnam war. Helicopters were too vulnerable while hovering and firing and jets were useless in keeping the Vietcong suppressed (didn't help that some jets didn't even have a gun once they exhausted their bombs or missiles).

So one American commander ordered bolting machine guns into a transport and ordered that when suppression fire is required, that modded transport would circle around and suppress an area. It worked so well they expanded its mission to also suppress convoys moving in on friendly positions.

>>136128159
You know, I fell in love with the Globemasters after this Air Force commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl_Sk4Xyles

I actually looked up the transport and found out it was almost as capable as the C-130 when it came to terrain flexibility, as well as being used for almost everything the C-130 does, but on a larger scale.

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That feeling when Sentinel got a life extension.

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>>136108535
>You will never have a yandere plane

>>136137556
It really is, it's by far the most flexible transport aircraft we have.

My job in the AF is to load and unload cargo onto aircraft, and C-17s are by far the best ones to work with. The C-5 can carry more, sure, but its hydraulics tend to break a lot, and there's just so many nifty features on the C-17 that makes the job easier and smoother. I'm talking about moving pallets of cargo that each weigh 10,000 lbs, any simplicity is appreciated.

>>136124122
Good taste.

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>>136129831
Aye, though after Zero there's only like one or two AC game set in Strangereal.
>>136127364
>it's literally built around dogfight duels
The best, there need to be more air jousting in AC.

>>136137404
>didn't help that some jets didn't even have a gun once they exhausted their bombs or missiles

Why is the Murken military so retarded?

>>136138247
Too bad its size imposes such severe restrictions on where it can land.

>>136138544
America thought having high-tech missiles and supersonic aircraft signaled the end of mandating a rapid-fire gun for dogfighting, so their F-4 aircraft in Vietnam didn't have guns until later. Problem was, this left them with nothing to fight with once they ran out of missiles, and no means to accurately engage when they were within easy range of enemy MiGs.

The other problems were that the two missile types carried had teething problems, and either malfunctioned or couldn't be used at their effective ranges due to engagement restrictions at the time, which forced pilots to come back down to subsonic speeds to establish a lock-on.

In the end, the USAF had to add gunpods, with the Marines opting to equip double gunpods in order to provide strafing surpression fire. And in irony, properly sighted gunpods ended up being more advantageous than the missiles. Later F-4s got their internal vulcan later on.

>>136138247
Now if only they could strap cannons to the sides of the aircraft and make it rain harder than a Spectre or whatever the latest version of the Gunship 130 is.

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>>136125764
I like the wings.

>>136123746
Magic. The show is about humans teaming up with demons to fight vampires.

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>>136138544
nice meme

>>136109903

Since Scamco likes doing anime to advertise their games lately I suppose it's possible. Who would do it and would it be CGI though?

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>>136110072

>Death From Above

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>>136139013
>And in irony, properly sighted gunpods ended up being more advantageous than the missiles.

Not really. Navy Phantoms never had guns or gunpods installed and they enjoyed a much better K/D than Air Force Phantoms, even when the AF ones had guns equipped. The difference was in training, as early on, most American pilots were not trained properly in dogfighting, and were instead told to fly as conservatively as possible. Vietnam is the direct reason why we have Top Gun and Red Flag.

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I bet Mobius 1 is a fuqboi twink who may be the Grim Reaper of the skies, but on the ground, he's a nothing but a submissive weakling. I'm going to sneak to his barracks every night, and rape him there and then without every the slightest bit of mercy. He wouldn't be able to cry for help or report me either, to protect his reputation as the ace of aces.

>>136139245
>7% of kills were made possible because of guns
It's not like a M61's expensive compared to missiles either for 7% increase in overall A2A effectiveness.

>>136139651
Semi related
http://pastebin.com/WSSBWGs6

>>136124068
>It's my fault that I didn't play a game that never got a proper English release
Can't wait for the fanTL.

>>136139651
Mobius one is Cipher

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>>136128956
Look at those flares. Beautiful.

>>136129715
I believe there's official Area88 stuff in whatever the online AC is called as well.

>>136127364
Redline has nothing to do with real cars, though. It's about as much a car anime as Macross is a jet anime.

>>136140283
The A88 stuff is real, but Infinity is shit. You couldn't even get the A88 planes or emblems if you wanted to, since they were for limited time collaboration events.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA
Join the air force, they said. It's actually the chair force, they said.

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>>136125764
Look at it. It's a fucking spaceship.

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>>136108160
Forget fighters, do you know how few series there are about just general aviation?

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Go to to pixiv and bring something good back.

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>we're in jail, senpai

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>>136124314

>>136142460
We're already 90% filled up.
sasuga /a/

>>136142460
so fact bingo instead of bullshit bingo?

>>136142817
The point is to fill it up with other posts, not create posts yourself of what is on there.

>>136114911
Too good.

>>136124298
What's this supposed to be?

>>136142817
ebin

>>136143757
Tyfun

>>136120898
Pixy is my waifu.

>>136114911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wba6XWbpT-k

>>136125380
>>136125422
Stratos 4 is a series, and good. There were even extras on how the aircraft designs and the saddle pilot seats were derived from old test craft in the 1950's.

>Japan: Filled with anime of magical girls protecting the country.
>Useless dysfunctional military. America protects them.
>USA: Filled with special effects Hollywood space movies; Star Wars, Star Trek.
> Useless dysfunctional NASA. Russia launches their astronauts to the ISS.
Be careful about the real world implications of your fantasy life.

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>>136145732
Speaking of fantasy life affecting the real-world image, I love Russia's fantasy PAK TA flying wing mega transport.
https://vimeo.com/103542677

>>136145732
Actually Japan has one of the better fighting forces out there. They're reliant on the US sure, but the JSDF is in the top 10 armed forces in just about every category.


Also Roskosmos is worse then NASA. The only reason they can launch astronauts is because NASA pays for it. Other than manned flight NASA currently has them beat in pretty much every category at the moment.

>>136119419
CIV4.webm

>>136128322
Wrong plane your thinking of the 14.

>>136142817
Check the shitposting box off guys.

>>136108366
>implying i wouldn't buy an idolmaster plane.

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>>136139559
>our incompetence is the reason we have elite flight training programs to teach our pilots skills that are standard fare for the rest of the world

I loathe my country's military so much.

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>>136147988
>implying other countries have anything even close to Top Gun or Red Flag.

I know this is probably quite random, but why doesn't the US buy Russian fighters? Even if only to use as Aggressors in Red Flag-style training, rather than just using repainted F-15s or F-16s?

Also, is thrust vectoring that big a deal, or is it unnecessary beyond stunts?

>>136148559
>why doesn't the US buy Russian fighters?
Because it isn't in the best interest of Russia to sell the US the planes it would be employing against it in a hypothetical conflict. Knowing what a plane can do is a very different thing to having a unit you can pull apart and examine every piece of.
>Also, is thrust vectoring that big a deal
The jury is still out on that. Apparently most simulated kills on Raptors in exercises are the result of the pilots kicking into thrust vector maneuvers, so take that as you will.

>>136145732
meanwhile China has to use footage from a Kenny Loggins music video when boasting about their invinciburu flanker knockoff, and Russia pays their 3DCG modellers more than their engineers.

>>136148559
>I know this is probably quite random, but why doesn't the US buy Russian fighters? Even if only to use as Aggressors in Red Flag-style training, rather than just using repainted F-15s or F-16s?

I doubt Russia would be willing to sell the US any, and I don't think Congress would approve of buying foreign weapons from potential rivals. Plus, having a small fleet of foreign, exotic planes is actually more expensive to maintain than just using your own aircraft.

>Also, is thrust vectoring that big a deal, or is it unnecessary beyond stunts?

It is useful for post-stall maneuvers and getting your nose pointed where you want quickly, but it's generally a liability in a dogfight because TVC kills all of your energy, leaving you a sitting duck.

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>>136148066
They don't even need it, nimrod; that was the whole point of the greentext!

>>136148559
They used to field a squadron that only flew slavshit acquired from defectors and neutral states. I think they shut it down because its more of a pain than its worth.

>>136148685
Also, the pilots, particularly the ones for the MiG-23s, hated flying them because they were actually dangerous as fuck.

>>136148663
Yeah, because they participate in top Gun and Red Flag. Why bother hosting your own when the US does it for you?

"training is useless"
Anonymous poster #136148663

>>136148709
The Fishbed would have a much better safety record if India would stop crashing the fuckers. They must have designated shitting runways.

>>136148709
yeah, those soviet birds weren't very good when compared to their american counterparts.

>>136131515
A-10 isn't being pulled from service anymore.
Though, F-35 should be saying that to B-52, considering she's been flying since '55 and is expected to fly till 2050

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where do I start learning about military airplanes

>>136148559
Because Russia likely wouldn't sell them. You don't sell your biggest rival your equipment. It gives them a chance to pick it apart and find all the flaws they can exploit. That said, over years the USAF has acquired several Russian jets through various means. They've mostly been used for evaluation purposes but they have seen some use in training aggressor pilots. I don't think they see much use though because sourcing spare parts has to be a bitch.


On the subject of Thrust Vectoring: It's not a bigger deal than any other method of increasing maneuverability and has as many pros and cons as any other method. That said it is the most impressive one at air shows and it's always a good thing to show off at an air show.

Thrust Vectoring also improves STOL performance but that's not as big a deal in the post-cold war world where we don't need to worry about the commies cratering the runway.

>>136142460
stealth is in fact, obsolete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmqLyn4Q15U

>>136129234
WS-15 when?

>>136148937
Yes the fact that someone shot down a plane with at the time 20 year old stealth technology which had been flying almost the exact same path for the whole campaign when it opened its bomb door proves that stealth is obsolete.

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>>136148937

>>136149053
>pilot forgot to close doors

every
time

>>136148937
>F-117 flies the same route every night.
>SAM battery points their missiles in the air in anticipation of its flightpath.
>No SEAD plane accompanying the F-117 is supposed to be standard protocol.
>F-117 suffering a mechanical issue so its bomb bay door is stuck open
>SAM keeps radiating longer than they were supposed to and fire 3 missiles, two of which miss.

It was a combination of overconfidence, preparation, and luck. Note that was the one time an F-117 was shot down. Ever. And even then it nearly got away.

>>136149053
don't forget that exact same series of aircaft continues thousands of sorties and is never shot down again.

>>136114911
The fuck

>>136149105
and radars have only gotten better since then, good luck getting away today

>>136149109
bombing sand niggers ain't exactly pinning your plane up against the pinnacle of modern day anti aircraft systems

>>136149127
>and radars have only gotten better since then

And so has stealth tech.

>>136108160
Because they can't be fucked to research the whole "flying the jet" shenanigan by interviewing the actual pilots/personnel and such.

More so it cost hell a lot of money as well. I mean just look at "triple A" games such as CoD: they've researched the whole army/combat thing by interviewing the soldiers, recording the real gun sounds, getting actual design layouts of guns/tanks/aircrafts etc.

Don't get me wrong, is still is a repetitive, overrated game but still they got bunch of their resources by investing time and money on above activities. It's one of the reason why the first MW game was a huge success.

>>136149127
Modern stealth technology is also wildly superior to the 70's stuff being used with the F-117.

>>136149176
like what, the F-35? Lmao

>>136149157
>serbia
>sandniggers

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When is Russia going to hurry up with the PAK FA?
China already has the J-20 ready.

Which CAS is better on average? A-10 or Frogfoot? Assuming latest updated versions, given that the Frogfoot was one of the first to receive a major overhaul as part of Russia's modernization program.

I hear plenty of good things about the A-10, but hardly anything on its Russian equivalent, aside from the Russian equivalent being able to spam a shitload of unguided rockets.

>>136149215
>don't forget that exact same series of aircaft continues thousands of sorties and is never shot down again.
>what is reading comprehension

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This thread has too many jets. Posting best Turboprop.

>>136149225
Supposedly they're supposed to be ready soon.
Or something.

>>136124314
So what's with this hate train on this particular jet?

I'm not into jets or planes but it seems that this particular jet (F-35 was it?) gets all the hate including from the American themselves.

>>136149306
its expensive and its shit

>>136149306
They're all just jelly of its lulzy avionics package.

>>136149306
Memes, and a short memory when it comes to aircraft procurement and development.

>>136149328
>expensive
planes aren't cheap
>its shit
not yet combat proven

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>>136149225
Should have just produced Berkuts or an updated version of the Berkut.

>>136149306

Imagine a plane that's only ok-ish at everything it does, and it's the most expensive fucking thing ever made

>>136149306
Because it's new and scary and it's replacing the venerable F-16 (of which people fucking hated when it was in its early days, too, because it didn't have ENOUGH capability. Go fucking figure.)