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Just finished Comet Lucifer. Miyazaki is right. Modern anime writers can't write humans. All they can write are glib facsimiles of over worn clich├ęs. Every piece of dialogue in that show or character motivation could be used in the myriad other shows that aired before, and you wouldn't notice. How was this one of the best amine of its season?
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>F-FERIA..
>SOUGO! SOUGO. SOUGO?
>FERIA!
>SOUGO
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best amine of its season?
nice meme
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>>136058811
Just more proof that the writers can't write.
>let's convey that these characters care for each other
>How?
>I know, we'll have them repeat each other's name over and over
>Brilliant! This is Kurosawa level writing now!
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>>136058916
I wish it were a meme
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>>136059020
You should watch better shows
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>>136059197
I didn't vote for it
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best anime of its season?
It had straightforward and coherent writing unlike other shit like concrete shitvolutio. What a trainwreck.
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> How was this one of the best amine of its season?

It wasn't
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>>136058687
> How was this one of the best amine of its season?

Never heard of it being anime of the season anywhere before. You called it yourself?
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best amine of its season?

According to who?
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>>136059273
Coherent by regurgitating things that have been done before. Nothing about this show room any thought to make.
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>>136058953
I noticed this for many anime. Especially the girl saying MCs name all the time is pretty typical, I really wonder how much time they spend on creating a script and who comes up with these ideas.
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>>136059482
>>136059358
The year end voting thread had this listed as one of the best of its season. It's the only reason that I picked it up
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>>136058687
>Implying anyone enjoyed Comet Lucifer
I like to pick up one or two mediocre shows a season and watch the tranwreck with /a/. This has been total garbage since episode 2, and everyone knows it. It bombed in sales, the mech designs were ugly, plot was stupid, girls were lame, etc. etc.

All and all though, as forgettable as it will be, I enjoyed watching it with /a/, if only we could groan and complain about it together. As regards to what Miyazaki said and you using this shit as an example, let me remind you of Sturgen's Law
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>>136059535
Not like concrete shit was original either. The difference was that its directing and writing were utter shit too.
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>>136059602
You got trolled or something. No one thought this was good.
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>>136058687
Last season was incredibly shitty. this season offers Boku machi and shuowa genroku, which I consider to be the best of this season, if they keep the quality from their first episodes up.
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>>136059602
I think you got it confused with Concrete Revolutionario or whatever.
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>>136059740
This. Didn't like the last season either but a bunch of now airing anime, especially the two you mentioned.
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>>136059659
I never said Concrete was good, and I don't even know why is being brought up. But Comet had shit directing as well
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Concrete Revolutio sure gets a lot of hate here.
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don't worry OP I'll save your pride


comet lucifer was one of the best amine of its season!
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>>136058687
Pls stop spouting the false Miyazaki meme.
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>>136058687
Fantastic show, second best after Fafner that season. Mecha STRONG
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It was awful that I needed to drop it. Fhana is amazing, though.
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I'm watching this in one go right now.

What's up with blond fag killing like 5 dudes instantly one ep, and beating shogo viciously for a few minutes but doing no lasting damage?

I hate inconsistency.
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Most anime and manga seem like they're written by teenagers.
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>>136060033
Sogo is pretty buff thanks to all the hiking he does.
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>you will never abandon a hot girl that loves you for rocks
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>>136060033
Plot device like with all bad writing.
The strongest enemies who kill 1000 fighters in one moment beat a wimpy MC for minutes but he survives because he's supposed to survive for the plot. Same goes with protags that are meant to die, they will jsut die due to a fucking bullet or something else that never kills or even harms other characters.
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>>136060054
Trust me it's better than shits that's actually written by a teenager.
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>>136059625
>Implying anyone enjoyed Comet Lucifer
I did a bit.
Cry me an ocean.
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>>136059602
I see, you got trolled, anon.
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>>136060054

Anime and manga seems to be mostly created for visual impact.

It's why you can, maybe, get slightly better quality writing in anime and manga based on LN or VN. If the source material survives adaptation.

Problem is also a lot of it doesn't seem to be made with a clear story in mind. Like authors start out with an idea, but depending on popularity, they can stretch or cut short their story so you get something aborted or diluted.
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>>136058687
I feel like you just wanted an excuse to make a shitty thread mentioning Miyazaki.
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>>136060378
Most of the LN/anime/manga writer don't have the goal in mind nor of what their story was trying to convey that's why most of the case the story was a mess.
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>>136060378
My impression is also most authors of LNs are pretty much required to have a few tropes and cliches in their stories if they ever have even a shred of hope being successful, which is basically 1) The MC must be a male teenager 2) He is surrounded by girls 3) The girls are sexualized in some way, maybe not absurd amounts but enough for the artist pages 4) There must be less male characters then female. Operating in those guidelines is really restricting.

Of course, thats just the ones that got big, I'm sure theres dozens not like that, but every LN I've heard about or adaption I've seen have had elements of all four.
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>>136059602
>he fell for it
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best amine of its season?

It wasn't? It was an enormous bomb and everybody thought it was terrible.
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>>136060813
The best you could say about it was that it was colorful at times really.
That said it's the forgettable kind of terrible like Masques n lances.
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>>136060687
Your impressions are wrong. The current most successful genre of LN's is slice of life Salaryman stories.
I have no fucking idea why considering the face that one of the largest demographics that reads LNs are in fact salarymen, but there you go.
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>>136060813
>I didnt like it so no one else liked it either
Cool delusion you have there, cucklord
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>>136060378
LN are equally shit
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best amine of its season?
It wasn't, in fact it's considered one of the worst "amine" of the decade by many people.

If you honestly think one shit anime means all modern anime writers can't write then you are flat out retarded.
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>can finally post this
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I dont want "humans" in my anime.
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>glib facsimiles
Why is /tv/ such a shit board that it infects every other board with its cancer?
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>>136058687
Miyazaki was talking about drawing, not writing. He believes most young animators are learning to draw/animate by copying anime instead of studying real life.
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This is true for all aspects of anime. You can see it when you look at most current characters when compared to how they would have been in the past. Where in the past they looked derived from humans, and you could tell the person drawing had observed real life, now they are the derivative of a derivative. Exceptionally talented illustrators and writers still do great work, but the moment you leave a job to someone else they resort to a copy and paste method.
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>>136060902
You appear to have gotten lost on your way to another board, you should go back to your kind.
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>>136061197
top kek, newfag
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best amine of its season?
It was?
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>>136058687
>>136059602
Are you stupid or something
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>>136060859
Lance 'n Masques was at least average in last season's shitfest though. It was consistently fun every week.
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>best anime of its season
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>>136059273
>It had straightforward and coherent writing
The writing is a complete mess anon.
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>>136061001

I agree jamon.
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>>136059273
Oh look, it's yet another retard that couldn't keep up with a non-chronological plot.
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>>136061119
They realized that effort wasn't necessary to sell.
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>>136062767
concrete shit was concretely a blunder, Im glad it bombed and the second cour will bomb even harder
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>>136058687
>How was this one of the best amine of its season?
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>>136058916
Tbf, last season was pretty shit
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>>136058687
>glib facsimiles
>using comet lucifer as a benchmark for anything

fuck off /tv/
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>>136058687
>Miyazaki is right

It's so blatantly fucking obvious you're just a newshit crossboarder who watched a recent show that you saw someone say was good somewhere once. Like is this your 4th ever anime? You wouldn't be saying any of this stupid shit if you'd viewed even a dozen decent ones. Just off yourself.
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