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Could we maybe have a Shinsekai Yori thread? And I know you like arguing if this faggot is right or wrong, and you can do it if you really insist, but it wouldn't make me really happy honestly.
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>>136032713
>We are humans!
Disgusting animal only barely intelligent enough to experience delusion.
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Hitler rat did nothing wrong.
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In the end, nothing changes. Now that's depressive
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>>136032800
Just like you, huh?
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>>136033148
:(
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>>136032713
THAT RAT DID EVERYTHING WRONG
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Squealer did nothing wrong. He's a real human bean and a real hero.

What did you want to discuss anyway, OP?
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There is no argueing. He was right.
They are humans who didn't have cantus so their appearance was changed, because them not having death feedback but still looking like humans made them the ultimate threat.
The cantus user society will destroy itself eventually though, unless they live in medieval & religious times for all eternity. But even then shit can go wrong once someone finds a false minoshiro again or people run away from the village and create their own society without constantly brainwashing their children.

Still a very good anime. One of the best told stories in all anime.
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Squealer did nothing wrong.
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Very good series. I think the setting is brilliantly done. I kinda wish they explored more of the world, like outside of Japan, but I guess that would be superfluous to the story they were doing.
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>>136032842
The manga actually has a happy ending.
It's pretty decent minus the huge amounts of forced yuri aka Saki is still a lesbo at 26.
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>>136032800
> disgusting animal only barely intelligent enough to experience delusion
that's literally most of humanity, anon
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>>136033433
>brainwashing
the death feedback was caused by a modified DNA, if people can't kill each other then peace is obvious, though it comes at the price of progress and evolution
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Should have contributed when it was airing, instead of constantly "so gay, dropped" shitposting. It was pulling teeth to have a decent thread about it when it was relevant.
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>>136033561
They killed children who seemed like they would turn into fiends. They don't have that DNA.
So the other children get brainwashed to forget that child ever existed.
That's what I was talking about, mayne.
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>>136033505
Well if you are a lesbian or bi sexual that actually doesn't just stop at some point
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>>136033505
The manga is shit. It changes and sometimes removes my favorite scenes and the morals of the story, and instead of what the anime and book try to be, it's your regular fanservice shit manga.

It had nice art sometimes, I liked how they designed the cats.
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>>136033713
>>>/tumblr/
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>>136033713
In Japan homosex is considered a passing thing that will disappear once you get older.

Also in the manga, Saki made a huge ass deal about her lesbo love for Maria when she found out the truth. Seems dumb that she is still a lesbo in terms of the story.
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I like the ED
Kinda put the show on hold after 3 eps though.
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>>136032713
He may looks like an animal, but he's more human than some /a/nons
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so everyone had like a homosex fase

is that gay?
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Look even if the rat was right. Think what would have happened if he had won? Humanity would regress back in progress and the "humans" who didn't become freaks. Do you think the rat would have treated them humanitarian? No man, his kind and behavior is of negros, mexicants, and sandnegros. Just ooga booga and raping all day. And the people left would be the savages and no intellectuals(They are the most important members of society unless they're libtards then it's ok to get rid of them)
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>>136033961
Everyone except Mamoru, and that is why he had to die.

Cock up the ass or death.
He chose his waifu and death.
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>>136033561
>people can't kill each other
>oh, i'll just set this cat that kills people free and casually complain about how much i wanted that kid dead
>i hope nothing happens
>death feedback doesn't kick in
>japanese in charge of morals
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>>136034145
Edgy /pol/tard pls go.

The rats were steadily becoming more intelligent than the PK users. The PK users were living in a stagnant society that was eventually coming crashing down. The novel strongly implies that Akki/Goma are biology's way of saying fuck you for trying to control your nigger impulses. The novel and the show to some extent believed that humans, rat or normal PK, are violent edgy fucks with no hope.
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>>136033713
That's exactly what it does in SSY. Being gay in your teens were normal and encouraged, if you weren't you'd be seen as odd; heterosexual relationships were not allowed, and most likely got you killed. Once you became an adult -- marked by that "choose your partner" ritual, hence why it was a big deal -- heterosexual relationships were allowed and you were expected to stop being gay. A girl liking another girl is childish.

>>136033961
Nope.
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>>136034145
I would normally agree, but they had the fake minoshiro (was that its name?). They could easily get educated.
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>>136032713
Reminder that Yakoumaru planned to enslave the human race.

He was gathering up babies from human nurseries.
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Saki is IMO one of the best and most believable female protagonists in anime.
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>mfw the rats are actually the humans and the "humans" are actually the mutants
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>>136034936
She was mediocre as fuck.
But then again, most female protagonist suck so she looks good in comparison.

Satoru did more shit than her.
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>>136034936
Though I can't really see why she was hailed as being "special." For what? Her ability to remain calm and make rational decisions? Didn't Satoru do the exact same thing, except without the help of a Shun Ex Machina?
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>>136035160
>Satoru did more shit than her.
>the man did all the work while all she did was cry and wait for shit to solve itself

Forgot to add this. So yes believable female. Even ghost Shun solved her final problem.
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Can't tell a better anime that aired after this
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>>136034202
Did you even watch the show. Death feedback isn't activated by logic, it kicks in when the person has a strong feeling of empathy/whatever the emotion is called. That's pretty much the entire premise behind fiends and how the society has changed to consider "abortion" normal.
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>>136033751
It isn't. The manga had better art and pacing, the story is almost the same. Also the fanservice is good and it doesn't ruin the story in any way
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>>136033886
Episode 4 is where shit finally starts getting explained and then it keeps tumbling down.
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Satoru was pretty based.
He nutted in best grill AND best boy, and he had some cool fucking moments
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I never understand how killing people shall kill cantus user... I mean, even the child raised by rats had this kind of self-destruct button, how ?

It's genetics ?

Shitty explanation.
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>>136034145
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>>136037511
Scientists implemented the death feedback genetics from wolves (yes wolves have that) into humans so they don't kill each other.
The child raised by rats naturally had it too only that it believed to be a rat too, so it couldn't kill rats in this case.

Everything in that anime is well explained. The only thing that got on my nerves was that no one tried to simply suicide-kill fiends.
The fiend is going to kill you and everyone else anyways, so why not sacrifice yourself and use your cantus to kill that fiend?
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>>136038063
The fiend was incredibly powerful as well though.
The only one that was powerful enough to do that was probably Shisei Kaburagi
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>>136036655
>Chances the ending from bleak optimism to pre-chewed garbage
>Cast clothes changed to revealing because necessary
>Half of the manga is literally fanservice
>Now has a supporting cast of characters with close to no purpose expect "muh extra drama"
>Moves like a train with something going on every single moment, missing essential mood-building both anime and novel have because "muh pacing", meaning it's better for literal autists that cannot concentrate in 5-second landscape shot or societal details
>Often very lazily drawn, taking the shortest route, except for couple of large "artistic" images

You could have mentioned in positive points that for example manga portrays the sexual elements trough-out the series and doesn't cop out in implying child-porn, same as the novel, leading to homosexuality being a constant detail, but instead you just posted some random things that are clearly dumber versions of their counterparts. I really cannot relate to anything in your post.
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>>136038063
i think death feedback also works psychologicaly and prevents them from even atempting violence against other humans. in the manga shisei tries to kill the fiend but becomes paralyzed just before he land the killing blow.

in the manga some bitch randomly lashed out against her dad in the dark because she couldnt see well and thought him a queerat. she died from death feedback

think the only way for a human to kill another human is to be unaware or for it to happen by accident.
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>>136038380
the extra mini chapters with the ghost girl were great as well
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>>136038550
But if you're trying to portray dystopian scifi I'd say the cute ghost girls weren't really a good thing.
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>>136038448
I think it has a lot to do with how they were raised in a society where actually hurting another person wasn't considered even possible. Naturally Shisei should know the truth based on his position alone, but that doesn't change the fact he's trying to commit the ultimate taboo also manga is fucking shit and not canon
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>>136038685
The manga is as canon as the anime idiot
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>>136038245
god damnit ;_;
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>>136032800
Was your aim to sound like an edgy tool? Because you succeeded.
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>>136040392
>Original novel and anime are nearly identical, meaning the anime is a straightforward adaption
>Then there's manga
Tell me a reason why I should consider the manga canon, as it's only a shabby alternate take on the original story.
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>>136038063
Pay more attention dude. There is Dean Inhibition and Death Feedback. The first one stops you from even thinking about killing another human. The latter kills you if you somehow managed to kill him.
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>>136041610
>Dean
I mean Death. Fuck.
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How fappable is the manga?
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>>136038063
Attack inhibition
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>>136033433
For me the moral of the story was indeed the fact that nothing will ever change. A melancholic realization, it's the tragedy of their society. Saki was shocked when little because of what adults did to educate the future generation and we can clearly get that she starts thinking something might be fucked up. Then what happens is that after everything she ends up managing the creatures that are supposed to kill the most unfit children, like there was nothing wrong with it when her children could end up the same others did.

I get how some may not like the show because it's not character driven at all, but instead I feel it was great because of its world building and pessimistic morale at the end. From our perspective their society is wrong, and even though some people get in touch with its brutality, they do nothing to make it change. Even after the whole squealer thing, we're back to the stasis present in the beginning.
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I just rewatched this last week and I only have one question, how was Messiah able to kill the Giant Hornet army? I can understand her being able to pull their weapons away, but they said that all that remained of the army was lumps of flesh.
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all hail ratlouch
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>>136042182

she didn't. The other queerats probably just butchered them
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>>136042182
They mention that it was fake. The fiend only disarmed the Giant Hornets.
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Has anyone read the novel? Does it add or change anything from the anime?
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>>136042612
Adds tons of lore and backstory. There aren't significant changes to anime, just extra info, and sexual themes are handled better. If you like the series, read the novel. There's a lot of shit we didn't get to see, like PK user stopping a nuke head-on.
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>>136032713
I don't think he did anything wrong. The humans would never have let the rat people coexist unless they were slaves. So genociding them really was his only option.
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NOTHING WRONG
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The thing that got me the most about this series was when the Queerats lobotomized the Queen. And I guess it was implied that they lobotomized Maria? Just the thought of that freaks me out.
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>>136043977
Praise your nothing-wrong overlords, anon.
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>>136043977
>And I guess it was implied that they lobotomized Maria?
The letter Maria and Mamoru left when they ran away was fake, They were forced into having a child, then murdered; their bones served as "proof" they died in an accident in the snow
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