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>Maaya Sakamoto (坂本 真綾 Sakamoto Maaya?, born March 31, 1980[1]) is a Japanese singer-songwriter, actress, and voice actress...

>She has also branched into singing, performing songs in both English and Japanese

but the bitch can't be bothered to do a theme song or two for monogatari?
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>>135922956
She has already explained why and it's a pretty good reason from a professional point of view, stop being so assblasted.
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>>135923008
>it's a pretty good reason

Whatever the reason is, no it isn't.

Why couldn't they have stuck with Hirano Aya?
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>>135923008
Ok, what is this amazingly good reason that she is the only monogatari character that is too good to do their own theme song?
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>>135923317
>Ok, what is this amazingly good reason that she is the only monogatari character that is too good to do their own theme song?
Because she literally think she is too good to sing anime character songs.

Voice actresses sing character songs, and Maya believe it is too demeaning for her.

She has the right to. The fact that she still gets jobs despite acring like a prima donna means she isn't wrong.
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>>135923632
>The fact that she still gets jobs despite acring like a prima donna means she isn't wrong.
How so?
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>>135923632
> The fact that she still gets jobs despite acring like a prima donna means she isn't wrong.

No, just because some people put up with her shit doesn't mean she's wrong.
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>>135923686
>How so?
>>135923701
>No, just because some people put up with her shit doesn't mean she's wrong.
The fact is she is still empoyed despite putting up special conditions, means she is in demand and can afford to make demands of her own. I want her to sing, but I have gave up on her years ago.
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>>135924026
>The fact is she is still empoyed despite putting up special conditions, means she is in demand and can afford to make demands of her own.
That doesn't make her right or wrong.
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>>135923701
*not wrong
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>http://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/8549/why-wasnt-there-an-op-for-shinobu-time
Basically, she doesn't want to.
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I thought it was a licensing issue or something
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Asterisk's ED last season was the best ED of that season
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she already said whyy
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>>135923317
She wants the songs to belong to her, not to a character
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>>135924284
I wish they would have just kept Hirano Aya as Shinobu's voice.
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>Sakamoto: [laughter] [...] I'm old-fashioned - I don't want my work as a voice actress to get mixed up with my singing.

>—What exactly do you mean by that?

>Sakamoto: To me, my job as a singer is not so much a job, as it is a way of expressing myself - which is why I should write my own lyrics and sing under my own name. That's why, as a rule, I don't sing character songs.
Sounds fine honestly. Do you really want KaKa to sing that badly?
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>>135923632
>Demeaning
>Voice acts as a loli vampire that is a million years old and is in the harem of a perverted Japanese teen
>Character says stupid shit all the time
>Character songs are too demeaning
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>>135924527
>Do you really want KaKa to sing that badly?

I like symmetry. When every single other character sings their OP, but only one doesn't it stands out. Not to mention, the lack of lyrics during an anime OP is just weird.
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>>135924284
>>135924527
That's retarded.
Pretentious show for a pretentious person I guess.
>"Imagine it's the character singing, not you."
>"I can say whatever you want me to but I can't be bothered to sing as a character because muh self expression"
>"But it's not you singing it's the character"
>"No muh self expression"

How fucking far can her head be up her own ass?
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Well, her songs do tend to be major attractions to a show even if that show is utter shit after 2 episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeZOe1kh4EQ
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>>135924527
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>>135924663
>>135924731
I'd blame the director and nisio more, its been Maaya's schtick since forever. They took her knowing she won't do chara songs
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>>135924786
Haha, I really really like this image. So you mind if I save it?
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>>135924527
Wow.
Literally all respect lost for her.
Real bullshit right here
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>Gets paid to speak
>Doesn't want to get paid to speak in a rhythm
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Let's derail the thread. What are your favorite Maaya songs? For me, it's Platinum and Okaerinasai.
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>>135923632
But her >MAL says she has done theme song performances for a bunch of her other shows.
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>>135924989
She's not a good singer to begin with desu
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>>135925032
But they weren't character songs, and singing an OP would mean singing as Shinobu, which triggers her for some reason.
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>>135925032
Insert/Theme song is not the same as character song for some stupid fucking reason
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>>135925059
Maybe she has autism.
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>>135924527
>Do you really want KaKa to sing that badly?
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>>135924989
Platina and Universe, haven't listened in a while
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>>135924402
Did I miss something? When was Aya Hirano Shinobu's voice?
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>>135925180
Before her fucking her band got found out and had to lay low
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>>135924527
what if I told you that you can sing as a way to express yourself (making your own song and all) and still sing as a job too?

seriously, it's not the type of choices where you have too sacrifice one to do the other..

that excuse still sounds kind of bulls. sounds like she was saying, "I'm too good as a singer/songwriter to be classified as the same class as all of these wannabe singers that sing characters song."

I still like her though, just disappointed with the way she views her singing career.
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>>135925180
Drama CDs, she just spoke chapter numbers or something, but yeah this basically >>135925212
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>>135924402
Aya wasn't that good honestly

Her Shinobu just sounds like a generic 3 year old
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I can't imagine Shinobu singing desu senpai
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>>135925343
Kinda hard to tell with just her saying a couple of syllables every now and then
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But she did a character song for Metabots....?
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>>135925489
What the fuck is Metabots?
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>>135924402
But Sakamoto's Shinobu voice is literal perfection,
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>>135925570
I'm also not sure how Aya would do Kissshot.

Kinda interesting desu
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>>135925351
I can't imagine Kaiki singing either, before this of course

>>135925489
She did? All I remember her doing is a couple of OPs/EDs for various shows. Also sang Aimo in Frontier as Ranka's mom, technically not chara songs though

>>135925548
Probably Medarot/Medabot
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Every thread about seiyuu here is some stupid fucking made up drama.
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>>135925697
Sadly stupid drama is very real.
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>>135922956
Because she wants to write her own songs and she can't write one for Shinobu because she's a hack.
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>>135925670
Kaiki sure is one kawaii mama desu.
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>>135925697
>made up
exaggerated maybe, but not made up.
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>>135924989
Gravity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxfi8ikTSs
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Hey I remember this thread. This was here like 2 years ago or something, right? Somebody must remember too.
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>>135926112
Those were different anons, probably doesn't even go to 4chan anymore and has moved on with their lives
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>>135925670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6mFceADVhs

This is it. So it's not like she hasn't done them before.
Well, I guess if she don't want to, end of story?
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>>135926313
Wrong link anon? I've been looking for that chara song too
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>>135924850
You were probably never a fan of hers to begin with.
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>>135925086
>Insert/Theme song is not the same as character song for some stupid fucking reason
Don't call the reason stupid just because you are.
No wonder so many people include OP/EDs in threads about OSTs.
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>>135926573
What's the difference between the two that would matter in this scenario?
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>>135925979
>It is not available in your country.
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>>135926774
Just listen to it from your playlist
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>>135926313
Wow.

English anime voice acting is so bad.

Why can't they hire good VAs like Billy West or John Dimaggio?
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>>135926836
Because anime is non union, those 2 are more or less legends for voice acting in the US and are in well paying unions.
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>>135926636
>What's the difference between the two
I'm not even sure where to begin.
Character songs are cheap, although sometimes amazing songs that can be, but usually aren't featured within the anime (that would make them insert songs). And they're not the OP or ED, either.
The only people who care about buying Character song CDs are hardcore otaku, (i.e, seiyuufags or people otherwise deeply invested in the anime the CDs are for). I can see why Maaya wouldn't want to do them, since they do very often have shit lyrics if not also shit compositions, she makes enough music already, and most of the characters she plays aren't the character song types, anyhow.
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>>135925489
>But she did a character song for Metabots....?
No way? I watched that show as a child and can barely remember it.
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>>135922956
Maybe they could do what they did in Escaflowne and have a her sing a "random" song credited to her while the lyrics are actually based on the character's perspective (Shinobu in this case).
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>>135924663
But there are lyrics, they're just in German.
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>>135927040
>>135925489
>>135925548
>>135926313
>>135926353
Medabots was really early in her career, that's probably why she did it.
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>>135927093
I still need to listen to it
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>>135926879
Freeman still does anime, though, doesn't he? I'm pretty sure he's union.
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>>135926879
> those 2 are more or less legends for voice acting in the US

No, I refuse to believe that. If they were good they wouldn't sound like they are reading off of a page in a recording booth.
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>>135926879
iirc most of the LA licensors use union stuff, just cheap ones because no-one actually buys anime.
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>>135927115
He meant West and DiMaggio, dude.
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>>135927115
Depends on which role/s you mean in particular.
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>>135927093
I'd argue most of the songs she did for Escaflowne can be seen as character songs, too.
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>>135927145
ah, I was confused.
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>>135927112
Only like 2 or 3 a year from what I remember, Durarara, Fate, and Yuki Chan are all I know that he's done recently.
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>>135927139
Is JYB in a cheap one?
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>>135927252
So it might just be chalked up to him reprising old roles, then?

Damn, I really like his work. What about Blum? Is he union?
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Man, her early Yoko Kanno-produced albums are awesome. There are almost no bad sonds in there. Sturgeon's law has failed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7qeRfIj3nU
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>>135927300
Pretty much, it's just been Union vidya work and other things mainly for him.

Blum's definitely Union, aside from Toonami affairs, the only anime role he's done this year is reprise his role as Kyohei.
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>Come back to thread
>Somehow posted a YYH link instead
I don't know how the hell that happened. Sorry about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr96SgKTqUM
>>135926313
>>135926353
>>135926836
>>135927105

It's probably like what >>135927093 said. She's a pretty big name now, right?
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>>135927415
Damn, that sucks. Those were the guys I liked to point to as examples of good Dub VAs.
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>>135927504
They can be used as examples, Kari Wahlgren is a female example that can be used as well.
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>>135927499
Probably. This is pretty early in her career, and singing isn't a big part of it yet.
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>all these assblasted monogatari fans who literally cannot respect a voice actors wishes

You're all scum.
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>>135927684
>>all these assblasted monogatari fans who literally cannot respect a voice actors wishes
We respect it. But we don't have to like it.
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>>135927684
It's my anime and I need it now!
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>>135927684
Fuck a voice actor's wishes.

They are there to do a job, so do it.
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>>135927646
>first anime role in 1996
>first album in 1997
>Medarot in 1999
Plus that song doesn't really sound half as embarrassing as most chara songs lately
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>>135927590
Yeah shit, forgot about her. I really liked her Celty.

Closest thing I've heard to Sawashiro in English that I can remember.
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>>135922956
Yeah I just read about the "reason", what a fucking retarded bitch.
She's still an awesome voice actor though.
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>>135927749
you might respect it, most do not. This was directed at those who cannot respect the voice actors wishes.

>>135927764
you have the anime. we're talking a minute and thirty seconds of song that you're all grumpy about. Come on man.

>>135927812
You see, if you don't respect the voice actors wishes, she will not even do her job and get a job elsewhere, and then you have to find another voice actor, which will not work if you fail to respect them.
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>>135927922
Fuck you.
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>>135927684
She should hurry up and die
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>>135927956
You should hurry up and be flayed alive, worthless scum.
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>>135924731
It is a form of typecasting yourself, as if you want future prospects to look at that song and think "she's good in that role, but not the one we need".

Politics is the use of your influence, and it's in every single industry.
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I'm still pissed at the Union for that one retard who wanted to throw "muh royalties" in with all the other, much more reasonable stuff they were calling for with that #PerformanceMatters shit
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>>135924989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLXX7c65bpE
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Holy shit this was the perfect post, I hate Shinobu but love Sakamoto. Thanks for making my day OP, get assblasted batfags. Long live to Chiwa Saito.
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That turbocunt is a good reminder that 3D will always be PD
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>>135927894
Apparently Sawashiro reprised one of her roles for a dub, I don't know which though.
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>>135928561
I think I heard about that too.

I hope she keeps working on her English.
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>>135924989
Too many, family.
I still love old favorites like Hikari no Naka e, Yakosoku wa Iranai, Gift and others, but I probably more often listen to her newer things like Okaerinasai, Mizuumi, and Downtown. Mada Ugoku is also great.
Regardless, she was one of the first singer seiyuu that I started to follow in the mid-90s. The live medley of her songs on her hajimari no umi single brought tears to my eyes when I first heard it. As did her live version of Poketto wo Kara ni shite.
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>>135925059
This triggers a lot of artists, they get the feeling that people appreciate the character more than them. Even a certain singer from fucking Symphogear a.k.a "Charasong the animation" has a dislike for singing charasongs on her own concert.
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>>135928183
>I hate Shinobu but love Sakamoto.

This is the thread for people who love Shinobu but hate Sakamoto.
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>>135928732
Certainly not Nana, right? Tsubasa's basically Nana anyway.
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>>135928801
Fuck off.
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>>135928814
Of course its not Nana. It was someone from the second season which I did not watch.
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>>135924527
Quite a lot of people do, actually.

That said, OP's just a butthurt Hiranofag or redditor looking for something to shitpost about.

I personally would much rather have Maaya acting and no OP than someone worse (like Hirano) and an OP.
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>>135928732
>they get the feeling that people appreciate the character more than them

Well, it's true.
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>>135923008
>>135924284
>>135923632
does she breathe through her skin?
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>>135927929
>you might respect it, most do not. This was directed at those who cannot respect the voice actors wishes.
You had to realise that she isn't just being stubborn, she is insulting all the other co-workers that way. She is basically saying "I am a REAL artist, not like all the other girls in the studio!".
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>>135928865
>someone worse (like Hirano)
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>>135928876
Its a fake feeling, and I only see that happening if you only happen to score one good character role.
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>>135928732
It's a genuinely shitty thing to ask any actual artist to do. The only reason it's so prevalent is because most seiyuu AREN'T actual artists. They either don't care about gaining notoriety as a musician, or their musical career is so young that they'll take character songs out of necessity.

Maaya may not be holy trinity status, but she has an actual singing career and is married. She's not in a situation where she needs to jump through hoops for the industry, and people who actually care about hearing her sing will just listen to her albums anyway. (Although I really wish she'd do more western style songs.)
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>>135927859
Can you think of any chara songs that are any good?

I know a few, but they aren't sung by the people who voice the characters
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>>135929050
Does Ar Tonelico songs count as charasongs?
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>>135929083
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>>135929050
>Can you think of any chara songs that are any good?
Certainly you're not implying they don't exist. Maaya Sakamoto aside, plenty of other professional singers do character songs.
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>>135929045
>Maaya Sakamoto has been married for 4 years
>her impotent husband hasn't blessed her with a daughter yet

This shit breaks my heart. Well-known seiyuu should make it a point to have a heir to carry on in their place much like kabuki actors do.
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>>135924731
Well, maybe she takes singing a little bit more seriously, and doesn't want her singing to be thrown on as an extra for some more merchandise to milk out of the fans?
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>>135929101
I know that.
I'm asking the question "Do you know of any that you think are any good?"

Shit, my favorite DBZ songs are image songs and chara songs, but aren't sung by any of the VA's
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>>135929180
It's also possible that character songs are really, really shitty deals for the singers.

People automatically assume this is purely an arbitrary decision on her part but there's always more to it than that.
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>>135929176
The problem is that with seiyuus it would develop quickly into a feudal system that would overtake japan in less than a hundred years
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>>135929176
She's with her OTP, no need to rush
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You know, a character song seems like it'd be a fun thing to do. I guess I just don't understand the mindset.
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>>135929263
35 is already really dangerously late to be having children. Knowing Japan, she probably won't be having any whatsoever.

>Jouji Nakata and Norio Wakamoto have never been married, no (official) children, and probably have seen about as much pussy as Sugita (none at all).
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>>135929330
>about as much pussy as Sugita (none at all).
Hey, Sugita has seen plenty. He play eroges
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>>135929330
Its just as dangerous as shagging your own sister, not really that much anon
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>>135929361
Censored doesn't count, anon.
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>>135929361
>tfw Sugita has seen more pussy than you because he's been looking at porn longer

Damn you, Sugita. I should ruin the cartoons you've worked on with my English voice as retribution.
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>>135929385
Unless you, your sister, or one/both your parents have genetic defects it's actually way more dangerous to have a child after 30 than it is to have a child with your sister.
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>>135929045
>Maaya will never, ever sing another Gravity
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>>135929050
then you do have bad taste if you think there aren't many good character songs
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>>135929421
Wait, really? I remember a lot of kids back in school who got really old parents. The kids seems fine
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>>135929598
That's because multiple times higher than a very small risk is still pretty small.
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Anyone got any footage of her speaking English?
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>>135929598
>Wait, really? I remember a lot of kids back in school who got really old parents. The kids seems fine
That's because most of the time the pregnancy just fails half way through if the defect is serious enough. Fertility drops as the woman ages for that reason.
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>>135929045
>It's a genuinely shitty thing to ask any actual artist to do.
It's also genuinely shitty thing to not perform character songs. You might as well say to the fans "I do not care about the series or you, but the pocket money is nice."
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>>135930359
Yeah, artists should be public servants and do everything their fans want for free. See you at the Bernie rally!
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>>135930432
>for free.
They literally get paid to do it.
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>>135930359
You're delusional if you genuinely think any of the VAs care about the series.
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>>135930442
Evidently not enough in this case.
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>>135930359
They knew she didn't perform character songs before they hired her for the role.
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>>135929299
Maybe it's a one-time payment, with no chance of collecting royalties.

Then there's the scheduling, the location, lyrics, composition.

If you love contributing to the reputation of the character, you likely wouldn't mind doing it for free. That also assumes the character's creator won't disproportionately exploit your one-time contribution for their resume.
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>>135930446
Not everyone is as stuck up as Sakamoto.
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>>135930570
>lyrics, composition
The VAs aren't the ones composing the songs.
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>>135922956
In addition to what already explained here, Monogatari music is handled by Sony, hence you got Sony artists like Claris, Trysail, supercel, etc.
If the Music was handed to Maaya's recording label, she can probably doing the theme song but not in character.
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>>135928974
that's the way YOU want to see it. It definetly is not the way she, or her co-workers might see it. The fact that you wouldn't do the same thing other people do does not mean you look down upon them, it might mean something entirely dfferent, but I won't argue against you. If you wish to think of it that way, be my guest.
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>>135922956
Which English songs has she done?
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>implying Morita isn't best seiyu
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>>135932197
Are there more seiyuu that dress up as the characters they play?
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>you will never hear Kisshot/Shinobu singing OPs and EDs

the americans should riot, their pretty good at bullying people into doing things.
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>>135932257
That's not Sugita is it? Is Kojima bending his knees or is he that much of a manlet? Sugita is pretty average height for a nip iirc
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>>135932177
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUxRW3PD8I
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>>135932311
It's Sugita, and yeah, Kojima is that much of a manlet.
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>>135928080
David Hayter
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>>135932438
Wil Wheaton
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>>135929330
Seiyuus do not always have to announce their marriage or pregnancy, you know.
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>>135924116
It makes you seem butturt, though
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>>135924731
>>135924850
>>135923632
>I don't have integrity therefore no one else should
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Meanwhile Utamonogatari has sold 61,532 copies so far (5 days).
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>>135928561
It was Di Gi Charat: Leave It to Piyoko.

She did pretty good job reprising her role as Puchiko.
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>>135933690

I still found it funny how Shitaya Noriko is the only VA out of the three Fate heroines to be married and is expecting a kid. In the same year we find out about the HF movie. But she is quite charming, so it's no surprise.

It's criminal that Kawasumi and Ueda are still single.
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>>135923008
It's a lie.
She already sang songs for other anime series.
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>>135936452
Does she still do voice acting nowadays? Last time I heard her voice besides Fate was Maken-Ki.
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Second Season already was the top of the Monogatari series. An opening song by Maaya Sakamoto would have amazing.

Maaya Sakamoto - Magic Number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEet-yKILBs
Maaya Sakamoto - Buddy
http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/Maaya-Sakamoto---Buddy/61d653794484852e7d869c7cd7a320d7
Maaya Sakamoto - Ame ga Furu
http://www.jpopsuki.tv/video/Maaya-Sakamoto---Ame-ga-Furu/7f6739e9648606c70eb562cc9fd92cbc
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>>135924527
It's a fine reason, but the fact that she's a professional singer makes a song by Kaka even more alluring.
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All this means is that SHAFT didn't phrase their request right.

"We don't want a Shinobu song, we want a song by you to address the themes of Shinobu"

Literally all you need to get around this. It's not like she doesn't sing anime OPs.
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>>135937835
She's fine having her songs licensed for an anime series. She's not fine singing character songs. There's a difference.
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>>135930446
Most VAs are giant nerds who only got into industry because they genuinely liked anime. It's not the kind of job someone takes while wanting to have a good life and stable income.
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>>135924527
>>135923632
My bullshit meter just broke. I always found strange that Shinobu was the only one without a OP performed by her, but I'd really never imagine that it was for such petty and retarded reason like that.
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>mfw people defending this cunt
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>People hating on Sakamoto for having integrity and not caving in for vampire waifufags
Fucking disgusting
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>>135925670
We all didn't expect Kaikisinging.

But we all loved it
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>>135944735
>Integrity
>Her character is a 800 years old loli vampire in a anime filled with fan service, loli pandering, incest pandering and otaku pandering
>But somehow she can't do a character song.
>Integrity
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>>135924199

Hemisphere is a good song
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Is this the dank new Monogatari Series shitposting topic?
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>>135929598

It's a percentage thing. You're just seeing all the positive end results, and none of the negative results.
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>>135922956

Just when I thought you fags couldn't find any stupider shit to get needlessly mad over
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The real reason it took so long to make Kizu is they wanted to get Maaya to sing for it, and she promised to do it if they still wanted her and the series still did well after so many years. That's what I like to think at least, I will hold out hope until the last Kizu part comes out.
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