>>135914485 Diametrically opposed. One is a fantasy that never happened nor can happen unless in near-divinely-mandated circumstances. The other is cruel reality illustrated in an extreme logical conclusion.
>>135915676 I don't want to a wife that spouts nonstop "Aliens are behind it. Humans are alien halfbreeds for slavery. The Sumerian texts are the truth. The bible proves that Aliens exist. Here, watch this episode of ancient aliens with me. Hitler started the war so he could steal alien technology. The Vatican has alien relics."
>>135919242 The mass population decline isn't necessarily a bad thing. It is a bad thing for the old people who didn't save enough money for their retirement, their won't be enough taxes coming in to give them their benefits. As technology gets better and automation improves, there are going to be less and less jobs available, on top of that, due to improvements in medicine, average age of death is going to rise. Apparently in 2012 I think, the first 1000 year old person was born according to some scientists. It is a pretty shitty and immoral thing to have a kid nowadays, if anything just adopt a loli and raise her to not be a slut.
>>135921451 after my 11th birthday I did everything I could to prevent more birthdays from happening because that birthday was the one that couldn't be topped. Here in 13 days my birthdays going to happen again, and I can only hope everyone forgets, I've even gone as far as changing my birthdays everywhere that family and friends could find my birth date just to avoid it.
Last year I kept quiet about it being my birthday, I ended up quitting that day though, because all my coworkers, bosses included, decided to throw me a birthday party since they said "you always seem so depressed, we wanted to cheer you up!". They weren't that happy about it, and neither was I, was a great place to work, but i'm not a drinker, I dont smoke, I dont do drugs, the party would've been boring for everyone there, and even if i stayed, I would've just slinked out before any singing or cake happened since no one at work ever noticed me unless I was talking or in front of them.
>>135923635 >>135923868 >>135923959 >get molested by your horny sister >she passes you around with her friends >dad beats your mom and you >Sister dies in a brutal bus accident >Dad tries to kill you, you kill him on accident >forced to join the military and kill more people
>>135921292 >Apparently in 2012 I think, the first 1000 year old person was born according to some scientists. How the hell do they figure that? Just counting on some hypothetical breakthrough in the next 100 years that we don't know anything about now?
>>135924874 I'm guessing it's based on how the average lifespan has increased exponentially so far, how it's projected to continue increasing. Based on that, and knowing the relationship over the past few centuries between the average human lifespan in a generation and the lifespans of the most long-lived humans in that generation, you could probably work out something like that.
>>135925291 Has it though? I thought it hasn't increased all that dramatically since antibiotics gave it a big bump a while back. We seem to find ways to kill ourselves faster about as fast as science finds ways to keep us alive longer, not to mention usually they prevent one cause of death only for something else to kill us a year later.
>>135921451 Why would he still hold hope at that age. By the time my 21st birthday rolled around I was getting called downstairs to blow out the candles in front of my grandma/mom/siblings and taking a slice before going back up.
After that I pushed for them to realize the greatest gift they can give me is to not celebrate my birthdays.
I for one actually like my family-only birthdays, even though it is a hassle to get out of my confort for the celebration. I see people that, no matter how much of a loser I am, will always remember my birthday and come with a cake ready for me.
And instead of seeing it as a year wasted, I think of it as a year spent watching animu, playing games etc etc. By a normalfag's definition, this may be a year wasted, but for me that sounds pretty good.
>>135925291 >>135925358 I'm pretty sure the only reason the average age of death has gone up to sharply was because we figured out how to keep our kids alive long enough to reach adulthood. If i remember right if you don't count people younger than 10 in teh average age of death isn't much higher now then it was hundreds of years ago because back then if you made it to puberty you were old enough to not get killed by simple illnesses that are easily cured nowadays. Of course we are living a good chunk longer now then abck then, just not to teh extent people think.
>>135918354 They'll never be remotely like 2D anon. They'll be incredibly bitch and demanding, require you to spend tons of money on them, get fat and ugly as soon as you're married but divorce you the instant you stop putting in 110% effort for her at all times (and even then sometimes she'll leave anyways just because she feels like it).
>>135914963 >>135914810 >She dyed it She's naturally blonde. She dyed it black, but went back to blonde when she did a Sadako imitation to Hajime in chapter 6. She got mad when he gushed over how moe Sadako is.
>>135932526 I think it strengthens the bond. If you're just living together, you could stop living together with little to no consequence over any little thing. But marriage is like an oath, something you're expected to take seriously. Theoretically it makes the couple tighter ("one"), more tolerant and forgiving and there's a heavy cost for breaking this bond.
But that's all theory, the reality of things is not so sweet.
>>135932748 The only redeeming factor of me living in a non new world third world shithole is that at least girls protect their purity until marriage and are expected to be more loyal Or at least that is what im led to believe
>>135932202 That's about right. You can't be frustrated if you don't expect anything. actually not ;_; Thing about this nig that makes it so sad he did actually expect in his 25 someone to come at his party to eat a fucking cake. He's supposed to smoke some weed and go shoot some people.
>>135933069 >Yeah but they're not worth it. Depends. If both agree to marry exclusively for those benefits, and not for some sort of advancement of the relationship, then they wont be under the obligation to stay together and nothing should change.
You find a chubby loser to be completely dependent on you and he'll do anything for you. What do you want in a husband? Someone faithful, reliable, and will flick your bean or toss your salad when you want him to.
>>135933435 Who would take care of you when you will be ill? Who will help you with house routine? Two can do more than one and sharing the food tastes twice as many. Your parents there will be not forever. >>135933452 And how it works Mr. Wise?
>>135933674 >Who would take care of you when you will be ill Myself. What would someone else do? Bring me water? I can do that myself. I'm not catching the plague in Commiefornia. I'm not getting some Japanese cold or anime aids. Help me with what? Cleaning? Cleaning isn't hard, I can do it myself. I bring in enough money to support my hobbies, bills, savings, and I.
>>135933674 >Who would take care of you when you will be ill? Who will help you with house routine? Two can do more than one and sharing the food tastes twice as many. Your parents there will be not forever. Anon is probably the kind that plans to kill himself once there isn't anyone around to feed him. It's very common to find people like these out there.
>>135933324 This is beyond /a/ topic, but hey. They cheat because you're not good enough. And, eh, I wonder why non-lazy is not interested in you. People generally are just being selfish and pick what's good for them. Hajime generally won't get such cute girl as well.
>>135933753 >I can do everything myself. This is like caveman saying "I have everything already and don't need anything else". In a sense you are right, but you are just ignoring the whole part of the life.
>>135934004 I'm not ignoring anything. There is just 0 reason to have a wife or kids aside from being seen as a productive member of society. I don't need more income because I already have enough. I don't need someone to help me do things around the house because I take care of it already.
The only thing having a significant other is for is for love. There is no other reason.
>>135933989 You can also see this as if they don't want to control themselves. I feel kinda nauseus when someone wants to cheat with me. Maybe they felt like this because because they were cheated on. >>135934077 Not being good enough is not a fault really. Just accept being miserable if you feel like giving up.
>>135934078 You are. You are looking at it as economist would do. Income, outcome. Relationship is a long period ivestment with very uncertain outcome, but in a sense you will always get something out of it. There are many values in life you can't know about yet, because you need the significant other to get them.
>My grandma lives alone and shes nearing 80. If something happened to grandma, would you help her?
>>135934310 Divorce is not random occurence. It's matter of you two. If you don't want to get divorced rather than avoiding marriage in a first place try to learn how to create healthy relationship. >>135934331 Experience, memories, satisfaction, love. Many things. Even most of those "extrass" are good to you, you just don't realize at the time.
> 911 will always be there though, I mean something with long term consequences. Like being out of money or breaking a leg or some disease.
>>135934538 >More than half of them will end up divorcing and living in poverty. Is this really how it is in murrica? That combined with your absurd divorce laws and alimony make marrying seem like a nightmare.
What a terrible country. No wonder everyone is turning gay.
>>135934659 >Experience, memories, satisfaction All gained through other areas in life.
> Like being out of money or breaking a leg or some disease. Because I'm single and have no kids I have an abundance of money and actively save for my retirement, taking in to account I'll be frail and old. In case I do break a bone or get some super disease, I'll be able to pay for it and have a caretaker support me when I need it. Which will be there for me 100x more than a family member or friend would, and I wouldn't be a burden.
>>135934331 >What? Just love right? Love is pretty good but not worth all the extras that come with it. I personally like the fact that, unless I fuck up pretty bad when raising them, there will be someone to take care of the house when I become to old. So I can just sit around all day watching taiwanese cartoons.
And leaving my genes and life experiences behind seems like a pretty neat thing desu
>>135934800 Then stop living because living will hurt you. Sometimes even when you love someone and are faithful and even if you wouldn't want to you can't help but hurt the one you love. Learn to deal with it.
This thread is fucking awful. Please to take this shit to /r9k/ where it belongs, if you're alone it's because you're shit or you haven't actually tried. This all men/women are cheaters/shit garbage is just a defense mechanism to avoid admitting that you might be the problem not everyone else.
>>135934764 >All gained through other areas in life Such as?
I think your grandma will be more happy about seeing you than caretaker. Values of old people are different because they know they are close to end. >I wouldn't be a burden. There is this again. People like when they can help occasionaly. Being (occasionaly) burden is kind of way of being nice to others.
>>135935111 Yes that's also a possibility, I was excluding those people. However if you're on the internet arguing for being alone and trying to justify yourself or convince others you probably aren't being totally honest with yourself about wanting to be alone.
>>135935200 >Such as? Literally everything. You gain experience, memories, and satisfaction through everything you do in life. >I think your grandma will be more happy about seeing you than caretaker. That's great, but I'm not my grandma, nor can I just quit my job to go live with her and take care of her. I wouldn't want my family doing the same for me either.
>>135935315 I'm not sure what's your point here. If someone were trying to justify being in a relationship while talking to strangers on the internet, they would seem as dishonest with themselves as people in this thread.
And those people who scream "MY GF" at every fucking opportunity seem as insecure as the strong independent anons pridefully posting here.
>>135935586 The point is that everyone and anyone will try to justify something if it pertains to themselves. We're defensive creatures by nature. It doesn't mean you're insecure. I mean, it can,but it could also mean you just enjoy what you have and want others to understand your happiness. Or it could just mean you're a dick who likes to brag.
>>135935642 >The point is that everyone and anyone will try to justify something if it pertains to themselves. you mean like how overlordfags shit on SAO despite most of the complaints people have SAO applying to overlord as well?
>>135935890 >I don't know how you can follow that and then claim SAO is some sort of plebian anime Maybe because the content of the show is completely different. Most people agree the first part of SAO was decent at least.
>>135935255 >Literally everything. You gain experience, memories, and satisfaction through everything you do in life. Not everything is equal. The most valuable experience is the one you have to most work hard for. And not every experience is of the same kind. One should be try to achieve the most rich palette of experiences.
> can I just quit my job to go live with her You are taking it to extremes. For starters you could visit her. Do you think that being surrounded with caretakers will be enough for you in your last years, when money and everything earthly cease to have any meaning for you?
>>135935990 I've already experienced love. I don't need to do it again. >Do you think that being surrounded with caretakers will be enough for you in your last years, when money and everything earthly cease to have any meaning for you? Yes. As long as I can still read.
>>135936092 You barely tasted it. >Yes. As long as I can still read. You are really clueless. You are here for a short period of time. If you just work for your life, your work will be wasted as soon as you die. More close you will be to your death, more you realize that everything you've ever done is going to be wasted.
It will crack to you eventually and you will probably marry some woman with child from her previous marriage or something like this. Why not start now.
>>135936750 Because I don't want to be with another person and never will be. Why do I need a child and a wife to be happy? Everything you do on this earth is wasted unless you find the secret to immortality.
>>135936878 Yeah? If everything is wasted why do you live anyways? If you were honest with yourself, you would suicide long time ago. Yet here you are, why is that I wonder. >>135936913 Because it takes more people to create a place, you can call home. >Everything you do on this earth is wasted unless you find the secret to iimmortality. If you live just for yourself, you are truly mortal. However if you live for someone else, part of you will live in them. Maybe you will be not the most important person in the universe, but also your life will be not wasted.
>>135937541 Don't get me wrong, if you're fulfilled by whatever it is you do, then congratulations. Just don't pretend it's because whatever thing you're doing has more purpose or meaning than anything else, because it objectively, demonstrably doesn't.
>>135937643 >Because it takes more people to create a place, you can call home. No it doesn't. All that is required for a place I call home is a bed. Everything else is extra. >If you live just for yourself, you are truly mortal So if I love by myself, I'm truly alive? The idea that you need to have kids to lead a fulfilling life is a joke.
Nikola Tesla went down in history and probably did more than I'll ever do with my life, but he never married or had kids.
>>135937643 Because I fear death mostly, also existing is enjoyable even when I'm in despair I get a form of pleasure from it it's how we are "programmed" to try and survive.
"Living" in someone else will not make you any less mortal by they way all they will die, everyone will doe eventually probably sooner rather than later but even in the best case scenario the eventual heat death of the universe will end it all. Actually it's funny because this was one of the things Evangelion gets at, seeking comfort from the inevitably of nonexistence in connections with others. Deluding yourself into thinking it will somehow prevent you from disappearing
>>135937779 Nikola tesla also never saw praise in his lifetime People called him all sorts of things He couldnt make wireless electricity in every home real He was also probably murdered Yes you shouldnt much about what strangers think about you but when you dont get enough praise for what you put your life into and what you really deserved, its really hurtful
>>135937779 >All that is required for a place I call home is a bed. Everything else is extra. Are you Mao Tse? Anyways in true home you don't even need a bed. >So if I love by myself, I'm truly alive? No you didn't get it at all. For example Nikola Tesla wasn't living just for himself. And secondly geniuses are of course exceptional themselves.
>>135937926 Look at you. Once you are down to earth with "After all I'm only a human" and then you are acting like you can comprehend the length of universe's life. That's some mental gymnastics right there not honesty.
Problem of today's society is that people don't know how to be humble. They don't know how to stop living for themselves and live for something/someone else. No wonder, that's what tv teaches us "You are the most important so buy things for yourself.". Also being humble doesn't mean saying "I'm not important at all". You have your part and you want to have a part. If you didn't want to you would just kill yourself.
>>135939146 I don't really understand you're right but I am certainly more grounded in reality than you. We can only work with what we're given thaI simply give my interpretation based on what information I have, if you want to delude yourself by believing in farfetched things that's fine. Maybe you're right even but don't try and push your faith on others and call them wrong for not conforming to your ideal of what is correct that is the only reason I started an argument with you in the first place. Because your insecurity and fear causes you to push your lifestyle on to others in an attempt to validfy your own beliefs
The reason no one is humble is because there is no reason to be humble. In the past people were humble simply because it was rewarded, ypu could easily make a life for yourself that way but it's just not the case anymore. By the way doing things for others is not inherently better than doing things for yourself. That is another of your personal subjectve beliefs
>>135939743 >We can only work with what we're given thaI simply give my interpretation based on what information I have You should also work to get more information so you can get better interpretations. Which you are not by simply denying it. All you do is reinforcing your teenage beliefs by cherrypicking experience. >don't try and push your faith on others Well sorry but I think one should intervene when one sees that someone is hurting himself even it he thinks that everything is fine.
>In the past people were humble simply because it was rewarded Being humble is rewarding itself.
>>135940376 There is no information that exist to confirm your belief that connecting with others is anything special or greater. Sorry but it's the truth, your emotions aren't evidence. >Well sorry but I think one should intervene when one sees that someone is hurting himself even it he thinks that everything is fine. How narrow minded of you, to be live that everyone who loves in a different way than you mist be suffering. The irony of you calling me a teenager
>>135941560 It is must be warmer because they love each other so much so you don't need heater when you go sleep. But you don't have to go sleep because you finally have someone to talk with overnight. And when you are tired you can go sleep together while holding hands
>>135934077 It's kinda of fucked up thing. Sure, it's the one who cheats who is generally to blame, but if you haven't done anything to properly maintain the relationship and make the other person to be loyal, you can't really complain because you know you could've prevented it if you tried to.
>>135921451 I remember some spazzy autist in middle school invited like half the school to his birthday party one year and no one came. To be fair, he was pretty obnoxious, but eventually I think some of the nice girls came to consider him one of the retarded kids they had to be nice to, so at least they would come to his birthdays from then on. The whole thing wasn't helped by the fact his family was weird and creepy as fuck, though (his dad was a furry who would sometimes wear his fursuit in public).
>>135944946 A similar thing happened to me, too. I went because I figured if I did the same thing I would want kids to show up, and besides, everybody else in the class would probably think the same thing. I could hang out with them, right?
Nobody else came except for one other girl, who left early. It was a sleepover party. We watched a few episodes of Naruto from the middle of the series (they were all filler episodes, literally nothing happened) and he tried to explain the context to me himself while I pretended to listen. In the morning, I had breakfast with his whole family, and also the parish priest who was visiting for some reason. Shit was weird.
>>135922017 I can relate. I'm moving out because my parents are batshit insane hypocritical fucks who don't actually care about me, but about my status in society like I'm a genetic investment. Honestly fuck your parents if they're like this, do what you wanna do and motivate yourself to become the best man you can be.
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